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ProbMan
post Aug 30 2010, 03:46 PM

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If im not wrong this term was coined after MU's three successive seasons of glory.
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QUOTE(ProbMan @ Aug 30 2010, 03:46 PM)
If im not wrong this term was coined after MU's three successive seasons of glory.
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It doesnt matter why the phrase was coined. If Man Utd have a large base of them its only because they are the most successful English side since the inception of the Premier League but they exist in other clubs. I dont discriminate and i hate any glory hunting Liverpool fan all the same.
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post Aug 30 2010, 04:22 PM

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u all are GLORYHUNTERS!!!!!! accept the fact!!!
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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 29 2010, 06:20 AM)
Characteristics of a gloryhunter (for Malaysian)

1. have no connection to the club
2. foreign to the country and city of the club
3. will not be effected by football tragedies as much as locals
4. have a club in their own country, don't have the guts to support them

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Added on August 29, 2010, 6:21 pmno reply?
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1) what kind of connection? i believe the connection between fans and club right?
2) yes, it is a club, not association. its a business run type.
3) e.g munich tragedy, hillsborough tragedy. yeah but for human sake, we do remember that thing
4) malaysia have club? johorfc is among the most successful. others is football association. yeah, i support my local team selangor 1st. liverpool 2nd. madrid 3rd. southampton 4th.

how about u? which local team u support?
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post Aug 30 2010, 04:48 PM

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most of us are glory hunter.. at least, thats how we start to support certain team. its all about winning a trophy, winning games, etc. im talking about supporting European club football. supporting other national teams are bit different scenario.

im supporting Man Utd for 20 years, dont mind at all if others call me Glory Hunter. i love United and feel part of the club. i feel let down every time WE lose, feel joy when winning, keep update all the latest news about MY club, etc.. i never call myself a true fan, but i think i did whatever i able to do as a fan.

i just pissed off 'lalang' fans.. what so called fans changing their alliance on regular basis. whoever strong and had potential to achieve glory that season, suddenly they become fans. WTH..

i think Man City will had a huge numbers of new follower in the future. ill never call them as glory hunter, though in my definition they are (IF City achieve something in the near future).. but right now, im feel happy to take a swipe on them every time they lose or draw tongue.gif (like my brother)

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yes, liverpool are the dominants in the 80's and early 90's ... it make them so popular till a lot fans globally support them ...

if they not winning and popular, i can't see them will have so many fans globally ...

so, how can liverpool fans only call man united fans glory hunter ?

some might say ... i support liverpool back in 1996 ... that time liverpool is in rebuilding period ... but same to some united fans which support united when they not winning too ... i still support united even though they lost the epl last season.

cheers ...
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post Aug 30 2010, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Aug 30 2010, 12:01 AM)
True fans : People who do whatever they can to support and a show their sense of pride and belonging towards a cause that represent a symbol of their culture, social and geographical roots. They do not choose their team. They are born with it. Statistics, trivial information or jersey colour does not matter. Whats matter is you support who you are.

die hard fans: People who continue to support and a show their sense of pride and belonging towards a cause that represent a symbol of their culture, social and geographical roots, even at their lowest time. Ther will curse and criticise everything about their team/club but leaving them is never an option however small your team are or how bleak the challenge is.
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fair enough smile.gif

apa pun no matter who we are, nationality ka apa we all are fans of our desired sides/colours/ and many more.whether you term it glory hunters or not its up to you.each supporter have his/her own way of cheering/supporting their desired clubs/nation and that what makes it unique about football.

football as it is will never be bounded to any exclusive race/people/nation/gender its free for all who embrace the beautiful game.so are we glory hunters??maybe are we not glory hunters??maybe oso.its just how you look at the glass, half full, or half empty. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 04:22 PM)
u all are GLORYHUNTERS!!!!!! accept the fact!!!
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Id like to see you try and make me.

Your 'fact' is based on your interpretation of the term, so it isnt therefore an actual fact. It is your opinion, nothing more.

If you think you need to be from there to feel connected to a club, then congratulations to you because you are right by virtue of your belief. It doesnt however apply to everyone

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 30 2010, 07:13 PM)
Id like to see you try and make me.

Your 'fact' is based on your interpretation of the term, so it isnt therefore an actual fact. It is your opinion, nothing more.

If you think you need to be from there to feel connected to a club, then congratulations to you because you are right by virtue of your belief. It doesnt however apply to everyone
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those europeans don't care about us. why should we care about them? syok sendiri. cinta bertepuk sebelah tangan


Added on August 30, 2010, 8:05 pm
QUOTE(Max_07s @ Aug 30 2010, 04:40 PM)
1) what kind of connection? i believe the connection between fans and club right?
2) yes, it is a club, not association. its a business run type.
3) e.g munich tragedy, hillsborough tragedy. yeah but for human sake, we do remember that thing
4) malaysia have club? johorfc is among the most successful. others is football association. yeah, i support my local team selangor 1st. liverpool 2nd. madrid 3rd. southampton 4th.

how about u? which local team u support?
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1. how to feel the connection? we are not born & grow up there. use ur common sense
2. read properly. not just foreign to the club. foreign to the COUNTRY also. imagine if a Malaysian support korea during Malaysia vs
korea match. ironic, isn't it? shakehead.gif
3. nothing to do with us tongue.gif
4. southampton also u support? doh.gif

i support pahang

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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 07:53 PM)
those europeans don't care about us. why should we care about them? syok sendiri. cinta bertepuk sebelah tangan
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If you dont feel any connection to a foreign side, that's your problem but some of us do. What has LFC given to me? A great man once said, "ask not what your country can do, but what you can do for your country". I dont support the club because they give me handouts. I do so because I feel proud to. I dont expect them to send me thank you letters. I expect them to maintain their values and principles. In return, i pledge to them my loyalty. It is with my loyalty and those of millions of others that they continue to exist and in return, they give me memories that I will cherish and take with me to the grave.

Let me pose you the same question then, what has your club given to you?

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 30 2010, 08:11 PM)
If you dont feel any connection to a foreign side, that's your problem but some of us do. What has LFC given to me? A great man once said, "ask not what your country can do, but what you can do for your country". I dont support the club because they give me handouts. I do so because I feel proud to. I dont expect them to send me thank you letters. I expect them to maintain their values and principles. In return, i pledge to them my loyalty. It is with my loyalty and those of millions of others that they continue to exist and in return, they give me memories that I will cherish and take with me to the grave.

Let me pose you the same question then, what has your club given to you?
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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 07:53 PM)
1. how to feel the connection? we are not born & grow up there. use ur common sense


Apparently reading is a concept alien to you. Common sense would indicate that humans are capable of empathy, which in layman terms mean you are able to put yourself in the shoes of others. I dont need to have lost someone at Hillsborough to know it will hurt me if I did. I dont need to have been there to want to show respect. I dont need to have met Shankly to understand what kind of man he is, after reading the accounts of so many others. I dont need to be there to understand how difficult it must be for a cab driver to follow the team all over Europe.

Do you even read? You preach about common sense but from your posts, it gives me the impression it isnt that common after all. If you have read a book, did you have to be in it or to understand it?

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2. read properly. not just foreign to the club. foreign to the COUNTRY also. imagine if a Malaysian support korea during Malaysia vs 
    korea match. ironic, isn't it? shakehead.gif
Wrong use of the word, "ironic".

Ive always advocated that one needs to have an emotional attachment to any side he supports. I wont disagree with your comments on national teams because i feel the same way, but i can bet my bottom dollar on the fact that i know more than a handful of people who have a deeper emotional tie to their clubs than you do to yours.

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i support pahang
Lucky them then.

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those europeans just want our money. that's all. grow up like a real man and face the reality


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 30 2010, 08:11 PM)
If you dont feel any connection to a foreign side, that's your problem but some of us do. What has LFC given to me? A great man once said, "ask not what your country can do, but what you can do for your country". I dont support the club because they give me handouts. I do so because I feel proud to. I dont expect them to send me thank you letters. I expect them to maintain their values and principles. In return, i pledge to them my loyalty. It is with my loyalty and those of millions of others that they continue to exist and in return, they give me memories that I will cherish and take with me to the grave.

Let me pose you the same question then, what has your club given to you?
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Malaysia is our country. not UK lol. doh.gif

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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 08:26 PM)
those europeans just want our money. that's all. grow up like a real man and face the reality


This coming from a young punk? If you're a real man you won't be hiding behind a keyboard hurling insults because you need to cover the painful fact that you cant counter arguments.

Yeah and all Pahang want is to put a smile in your face.

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Malaysia is our country. not UK lol. doh.gif
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You keep repeating this like a retarded parrot without countering any arguments that explain why we can feel a connection with overseas clubs. Please prove me right and continue to do so.

Oh and didnt you get the memo? Some of us are nothing but mere immigrants.


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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 08:26 PM)
those europeans just want our money. that's all. grow up like a real man and face the reality


This coming from a young punk? If you're a real man you won't be hiding behind a keyboard hurling insults because you need to cover the painful fact that you cant counter arguments.

Yeah and all Pahang want is to put a smile on your face.

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Malaysia is our country. not UK lol. doh.gif
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You keep repeating this like a retarded parrot without countering any arguments that explain why we can feel a connection with overseas clubs. Please prove me right and continue to do so.

Oh and didnt you get the memo? Some of us are nothing but mere immigrants.

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i feel so disappointed because not so many members in this fooball thread give a f*** to Malaysian football thread
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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 08:35 PM)
i feel so disappointed because not so many members in this fooball thread give a f*** to Malaysian football thread
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And your solution to that is to whine and b**** like a little kid whose parents wont get him the toy he wants? Yeah I'm clearly the one that needs growing up. Have you even tried to understand why without blindly criticising? You post, but do you even read and understand the replies? Do you read the news and keep up with current events? You can learn a lot from reading. You should try it one day before dishing out so called 'facts'.
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Aug 28 2010, 12:43 AM)


The fact that we even support a foreign team actually already made us glory hunters. Football supporting must be culturally linked and not just based on players or on field performance.


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Culturally linked and geographically linked does not have to co-exist. I could be 8000 miles away from the club I support and still share some of the same culture and philosophy with people from that area.

Glory hunters are exactly what the phase says. Glory hunters are fans/"fans" attempting to gain glory through association with a certain club. They support the club for 1 reason only and that reason is the glory associated to the club. They are people that seek to fit in. To be part of the hip crowd. This is caused by SDS or more commonly known as inferiority complex.


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aahhh...... english wannabe!!!!!!
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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 11:15 PM)
aahhh...... english wannabe!!!!!!
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lol just because a person supports an english club...does it means he is an english wannabe?

mine telling us what do u like/idolize? izit malaysian? if not, how are you related to it? from your sig, u appear to like military stuff...mine telling us what military related item is made in msia? you must be some german/russian/american/french/china/etc wannabe haha

is like saying a person is american wannabe because he listens to eminem?? wow welcome to twisted logic.

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QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 30 2010, 11:15 PM)
aahhh...... english wannabe!!!!!!
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I've met a number of morons in my life but I must say not many that are in your league.

You behave like a petulant little child that doesn't get his way. You are either really ignorant or have the comprehension of a slug because you haven't answered any of the questions posed to you. Instead, you deflect them by calling others names. The worse thing is I don't think you realize how juvenile you sound.

Am I going too fast for you? Try to answer some of the questions. You're likely to hear a buzzer go followed by someone going, "you are not smarter than a 5th grader".

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