From what i see, someone must be fedup with glory hunters eh

go to Mamak then already you will see A or few glory hunter..
even when argentina lose to germany.

The Evolution of Fans ( Normal )

Glory Hunter----->Fans----->-Die-Hard-Fans

at times they do get very annoying because they mock you when their fav team defeated yours ... and they arent even a real fan.

it is only natural people support team that are successful, hard to be supported of a unsuccessfull team if the team is not you local team or have other link with you.

I have a few examples of glory-hunters or I called them bandwagon supporters

Case 1
During the recent 2010 FIFA World Cup....before England were knocked-out by Germany, one of my former classmates, fully supported the England national Team, but after Germany defeated England 4-1....wow...she updates her Facebook status: 'That's it, no more supporting England!'. And suddenly she keep supporting Spain...while I realized that the number of Spain supporters were skyrocketing....

Case 2
Just like the case 1, but different teams, but in this 2nd case.....she knows all about the Italy National team,and before the World cup starts.....she always end her facebook status with HEART FABIO CANNAVARO HEART.....but after the World Cup ended....she writes HEART DAVID VILLA HEART.....
one of her best renumbered status is "MAU PI LUNCH SUDA". the she ended the status with "MAKAN BERSAMA HEART DAVID VILLA HART"

P/S I'm a supporter of Germany and Bayern Munich since 1996, and I have ride the storms of Euro 2000, Euro 2004 UEFA Champions League Final 1999 and Final 2010,but still supporting both Germany and Bayern Munich

This post has been edited by Toliman: Aug 28 2010, 12:01 AM

i'd go with the simple definition that whoever supports Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea are glory hunters. Will add Manchester City when they do achieve any sort of glory...

My apologies to fans of those teams that have actual connection to the area they represents...

Its unavoidable. European football is no doubt good, but watching it blindly is not enough to set your andrenalin running. You need to create artificial connection with at least one of the teams to raise the stake. And for arguement sake, the team you choose better be glorious. Hence the standard glory hunting.

The fact that we even support a foreign team actually already made us glory hunters. Football supporting must be culturally linked and not just based on players or on field performance.

But not to say its wrong or right. The clubs expecially wont mind the extra cable money or shirt sales. its free market so you can choose to do whatever you want.

we are all glory hunters. The question is just who is the bigger and why.

P/s - My congratulations to people who for some reason choose to support Spurs. The sight of your team walking out to San Siro pitch against the european champion will sent special spine chilling sensation because you broke barriers. How i wait for the time my team also do the same.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Aug 28 2010, 05:58 AM

one might ask how you define "true/diehard fans"

well its all down to a subjective matter.how small is small??, and is your small is same with other peoples small?.

so apa pun each and every one has his/her own right nak support ke kutuk @ fake it all together.pandai2 la jaga hati org laen, taksub mcm mana pun dont come at a point you go nosing in the sensitive issue like race/religion/ethnicity etc.

majulah sukan untuk negara~

This post has been edited by mhyug: Aug 28 2010, 01:21 AM

Characteristics of a gloryhunter (for Malaysian)

1. have no connection to the club
2. foreign to the country and city of the club
3. will not be effected by football tragedies as much as locals
4. have a club in their own country, don't have the guts to support them

Urban Dictionary

---

Added on August 29, 2010, 6:21 pmno reply?


This post has been edited by AKace: Aug 29 2010, 06:21 PM

i dont like it when people refer to the team they are support as "we" winning or losing. it is not like they are living in london/manchester/madrid/barcelona/milan. sound so desperate to related themself to the club.

so what do u mean real fan? Those that spend thousands on the club's merchandise, or those that have supported since forever?

It's more like supporting your favourite team. They are like your representatives, like.. like playing Fifa10 with your friend, except you have no control to the game. I say they are "real" fans if they don't keep changing the team. EG: Liverpool vs Arsenal, im Liverpool fans because liverpool beat arsenal. Then I'm MU fan when MU beat liverpool. And then I'm Chelsea fan when the series follows, those are jumping on the bandwagon

i don't see the wrong of using "we" in referring to the club we are supporting. In fact, most big teams WANTS their foreign fan to use "we" to make us feel home. That is how they build up big fanbase AROUND THE WORLD. Not for those who just LIVE in North London or Merseyside or Madrid.






How many of us did not start of a glory hunter? Most ppl in Malaysia supports big club because it's easier to follow their game IMO. Supporters of Preston North End, Cardiff City, Nottingham Forest have to go through so much trouble to watch a live game, find information about the team. Heck you hardly find a lower division club or even bottom table clubs in PL in this subforum.

True fans : People who do whatever they can to support and a show their sense of pride and belonging towards a cause that represent a symbol of their culture, social and geographical roots. They do not choose their team. They are born with it. Statistics, trivial information or jersey colour does not matter. Whats matter is you support who you are.

die hard fans: People who continue to support and a show their sense of pride and belonging towards a cause that represent a symbol of their culture, social and geographical roots, even at their lowest time. Ther will curse and criticise everything about their team/club but leaving them is never an option however small your team are or how bleak the challenge is.

all you people got it wrong.

A true diehard fan is one who shells out money for a season ticket.

If you got no season ticket, you're just watching football for entertainment's sake and not truly a diehard fan. Stop thinking that by buying merchandise you can proxy. Show me your airfare/ticket or your season pass and I'll call you a diehard.

btw, buying a season ticket and watching every game live from the stadium doesn't make you a die hard fan. Unless you can afford to fly to London every week.. But that just prove that you are friggin rich. If what you say is true, only rich people can support foreign football, which practically kills of 80% of the fans

That are true in some way. For some club, season ticket are limited and can only be purchased through an official fan club. This season ticket normally passed down from generation to generation and rarely sold to outsiders.

So to be able to get hold of the ticket, regardless off the price, means you are connected to the core of the sporting culture and accepted to be a true fan.

To have a season ticket also shows that you live in the club's vicinity and have some valid reason to support them as the club represent the community you live in.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Aug 30 2010, 09:40 AM

for a foreign fan, it would be acceptable to show an air ticket and 1 home derby match ticket. That is, provided your club has a long standing rivalry, which would mean it actually has some history to begin with.

u know you meet a glory hunter when
- you know much more than them on their 'fav' club
- they cant even name their fav team's starting 11 along with their 1st name
- feel free to add many more

with these points, it clearly demonstrate how much of 'interest' they have with their club

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Aug 30 2010, 09:43 AM

watch one game and you are officially a "fan" !! , im sorry mr poor guys who cant actually afford to travel overseas. You don't qualify to be a fan.

This post has been edited by IcyDarling: Aug 30 2010, 01:29 PM

i wanna start a cardiff city thread.who's with me?

I agree to some post which mention all of us Glory hunter fans.You like it or not this is the way life goes.
Back to the 1st thread people who dont know football at all,self proclaim they are Manchester United fan because they win things.At least Man U did is introduce 'the most beautiful game in the world' to them.Even they cant name a single player in the side.Why do you all have a problem with them?

I laugh at post where someone mention he furious people choose every other nation who did well in the World Cup.Are you a German or England or Spain citizen?The thing is if you claim you supported German loyally that don't make other a glory hunter.Our team is Malaysia (which sad to say not qualify for World cup) So as a football fans that not related to other country you can choose to have as many favourite team you wish to.You can also stick to one.I personally admire Argentina,German and Italy.3 of them at the same time.I bought jersey from these 3 team.That wont make me glory hunter.But a passionate football fans.Did adidas produce these shirt and strictly says you can only choose one team you support? LOL lmao on some people furious on something unlogical.

Glad to see more and more Chelsea fans nowdays because they are champions of England.If sumeone who use to fancy Arsenal suddenly change to Chelsea you cant blame him.That is bcos the team that use to be good suddenly became lousy.So you dont buy a louzy team jersey if u think you lost your passion to it.The shirt cost RM200+ afterall.And you cant stop the new generation who stated to watch football impress by Chelsea and support them.Is a cycle of life.This not call Glory hunter!

In conclusion Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool and Man u are all glory hunters because these team have been in the top 4 the last decade and win things.
Why dont you support Wigan or Sunderland?Ask yourself this question.
So any fans can shift to any team just what you love to see now and then.
Unless if you are English and born in Liverpool BUT you supporting Manchester United.
In this case you are a proper Glory Hunter!

And you are nothing but just a MALAYSIA team supporter.(even how much u love spain,england,german or italy) You already a GLORY HUNTER if you support anything about them..be it club or country! So we all are!Stop complaining.

This post has been edited by beandy: Aug 30 2010, 02:37 PM

I've not read beyond the first page as I'm waiting to board a flight but I absolutely disagree that we cannot descriminate against glory hunters. To me it speaks volumes of your character. A person that can't take losing gracefully or wants to be spared the emotional pain of watching a losing team will often be a glory hunter. I'll be blatantly honest and state I have absolutely no respect for people of this sort regardless of how many they number.
It disgusts me that people can 'tumpang glamour' when the club they pretend to follow win, and disappear when they lose. If ever I went to war, this would be the last bloke I'd want by my side because I can't trust him to be by my side when I need him.

---

Added on August 30, 2010, 3:27 pm

You have failed to note that there are glory hunters who do not even watch games. Not knowing the names of your own players is fine just so long as you don't profess to be a loyal fan who will support your club till the day you die. You can't lay claim to have undying loyalty but not show the club some respect by knowing a little about it's history and practicing some beliefs and traditions that they advocate.

You contradict yourself. You talk about circle of life and then go on to suggest that it involves changing. By definition, once an organism begins it's life cycle, it immediately faces survival needs. In order for it to achieve it's full natural lifespan, the organism must overcome many obstacles. I don't know how you'd interpret this but to me it means you stick by your club through thick and thin!

Wrong. A glory hunter isn't someone that started supporting a club because they won things, it's one who only supports a club that is currenty winning, hence the use of the word "hunter" after "glory"

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Aug 30 2010, 03:34 PM