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 Kia Forte, When will this beauty launch in MAS?

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hAnn
post Oct 2 2009, 03:26 PM

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me oso waiting... hope it reaches here in sarawak soon after official launch thr
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post Oct 4 2009, 10:55 PM

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What is the aircon compressor and pump brand for Kia Forte? Is it Korean made? Reliable? If need to replace, what is the cost?

So far I have owned wira and vios, the compressor supplied was Niipon Denso, which is well known and a reliable brand.
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post Oct 5 2009, 12:27 AM

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No idea on that..maybe BurgerLim can help us?=P
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post Oct 5 2009, 09:09 AM

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burgerlim.. does your car come with climate control? I think the air cond compressor runs 100% all the way after we turn on the aircond. The temp is regulated by using hot water from the engine. kinda like hotel shower principle. does your compressor cut in and out?
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post Oct 5 2009, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Oct 5 2009, 09:09 AM)
burgerlim.. does your car come with climate control? I think the air cond compressor runs 100% all the way after we turn on the aircond. The temp is regulated by using hot water from the engine. kinda like hotel shower principle. does your compressor cut in and out?
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This sound weird. A/C should cut of to the level of temp set, that is why they have low to high cold. There should be a sensor or termostart to montior the cabin temp level and react accordingly.

Bobbychin,
Your Spectra 5 doesnt cut off meh???

Pls clarify?
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post Oct 5 2009, 01:25 PM

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i dont think the air con ever cut off, they try to maintain the temp in the car by blending the cold and hot. my old iswara with cut in/out compressor, can feel the temp difference. but in spectra5 no, the coolness of the air blown out is steady and continous. i think that is wat mean by climate control? it can blow out hot air also btw.
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post Oct 6 2009, 09:54 AM

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Hi, All... been a little busy lately..hee..

Yes, depending, SX comes with climate control.. but with little peculiar programming (too much thinking..) haa.. the system will insist on fresh air whenever you select auto (unless under full fan... to cool down the car that it switch to internal for a short while.) maybe korea less jam.? air fresher ? haaa... but as soon as you select internal circulation.. it will continue to work in auto mode for the rest .. temp, fan etc etc..

Sorry not too sure of the brands.. (if CKD then hard to say liao.. cos according to man... some default comes w/o A/c) but its certainly a good one.. no complain so far... even better is that the unit controls up to 0.5 deg step... and the control is fantastic... like fan speed, air channeling...

but i do not think its water based.. as it still uses R134..(ozon safe gas), just that the compressor kicks in and out v.smoothly.. that you dun hear the tick tick sound..(yes..my waja makes that sound!), see.. sometime its too good then we all fault the thing...haaa... but you will feel the car is heavier (some engine power goes to a/c compressor, one bad point for 1.6! haaa... ). dual zone..(hot and cold) is v.common for countries with 4 seasons like korea . china . tw.. etc.. what the ac do is just reverse the process.. (a/c is just doing heat transfer ya?).

Hope these helps..


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post Oct 6 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Oct 6 2009, 09:54 AM)
Hi, All... been a little busy lately..hee..

Yes, depending, SX comes with climate control.. but with little peculiar programming (too much thinking..) haa.. the system will insist on fresh air whenever you select auto (unless under full fan... to cool down the car that it switch to internal for a short while.) maybe korea less jam.? air fresher ? haaa...  but as soon as you select internal circulation.. it will continue to work in auto mode for the rest .. temp, fan etc etc..

Sorry not too sure of the brands.. (if CKD then hard to say liao.. cos according to man... some default comes w/o A/c) but its certainly a good one.. no complain so far... even better is that the unit controls up to 0.5 deg step...  and the control is fantastic... like fan speed, air channeling...

but i do not think its water based.. as it still uses R134..(ozon safe gas), just that the compressor kicks in and out v.smoothly.. that you dun hear the tick tick sound..(yes..my waja makes that sound!), see.. sometime its too good then we all fault the thing...haaa... but you will feel the car is heavier (some engine power goes to a/c compressor, one bad point for 1.6! haaa... ). dual zone..(hot and cold) is v.common for countries with 4 seasons like korea . china . tw.. etc.. what the ac do is just reverse the process.. (a/c is just doing heat transfer ya?).

Hope these helps..
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Thanks for the great reply.

If possible (hope I am not asking too much) you may look into compressor unit in the engine compartment to check the brand.

So, how is your FC nowadays? Improving as per your mileage goes?

BTW,

1) Is your car come with climate control in digital display?
2) Your steering is telesopic, where it can be adjust in and out? This is useful for tall ppl as they nd to push the seats back. Most car comes with steering which is only good for up and down.
3) What brand of tyres do you get? Msia is getting Silverstone..... so-so only.
4) 6 CD audio player come with USB & Aux in should be standard for all model.
5) Is your side mirror auto shut close/collapse when turn off key?
6) The cabin light will dim and switch off once all car doors are closed? It does not just switch off, rite?

If its launched this, I am hoping to get the CBU version but ride for 2 months den rugi a year of depreciation.

Regards.


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post Oct 6 2009, 03:29 PM

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If possible (hope I am not asking too much) you may look into compressor unit in the engine compartment to check the brand.
well.. can, prop post a photo for you? cool2.gif

So, how is your FC nowadays? Improving as per your mileage goes?
yes... it now hovers around 12~13km (~7.8 to 9l/100) full highway still ~6+ only.. but power is def much better by the day...(still working on 1st and 2nd gear... still quite tight.. as of now..)

BTW,

1) Is your car come with climate control in digital display? yes, thought you join ceratosg forum? so many reference there... check it out..
2) Your steering is telesopic, where it can be adjust in and out? This is useful for tall ppl as they nd to push the seats back. Most car comes with steering which is only good for up and down. Yes, but for SX only.. since i am the only driver so not useful....
3) What brand of tyres do you get? Msia is getting Silverstone..... so-so only. sure? silverstone? we got Kumho (kimchi tyre..) very good performance... wet is much better (maybe 17" helps) no panning at all.. at 80.. but side wall is very soft.. and kerb prone.. so... be careful...
4) 6 CD audio player come with USB & Aux in should be standard for all model. USB/Ipod yes.. only SX get 6 discs (it read mp3 cd.. whistling.gif ). (but new batch all comes with 1 since.. usb stick is so convenience... so..no issue i think...
5) Is your side mirror auto shut close/collapse when turn off key? Nope..local dun get, its aftermarket from local AD, mine dun have.. thinking to install... btw.. for those here.. is any japan make (toyota/ honda) retract soft type.. meaning.. can still flip manually?....
yes.. key retract..

6) The cabin light will dim and switch off once all car doors are closed? It does not just switch off, rite? Nope.. it just off... or fast fade... ??!! unsure.gif

If its launched this, I am hoping to get the CBU version but ride for 2 months den rugi a year of depreciation.

Looking forward.. to see... more.. on the road.. here price been up by almost 10K for the last 4months.. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Oct 6 2009, 03:48 PM
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post Oct 6 2009, 11:24 PM

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Burgerlim,

thanks for the reply again. Good to hear that your car is improving and more enjoyable to drive as days goes by.

Your FC is consider good with 17" wheels. Then the FC would be even better is the wheel is 16".

Some more questions.

1) How many type of spec is Spore offering for 1.6cc? SX & SXi?
2) What is the different between the lowest spec and normal spec? Bigger wheels? Digital climate display? Others?

Jus want to have an idea before Malaysia launch it. Then compare them whether we have anything less. Dunno whether Msian will offer 2 different specs?

Thanks
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post Oct 7 2009, 12:23 AM

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Bro

singapore specs biggrin.gif

Specs link
SX specs at a glance.. Updated..


Us/canada specs... drool.gif

Us specs

Malaysia?

brows.gif hmm.gif

Updated! heeee

This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Oct 7 2009, 04:12 PM
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Probably a low to mid range specs..but priced from mid range to high end? =P

I HOPE NOT! XD
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post Oct 7 2009, 12:14 PM

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malaysia is damm freaking slow, holding back this car for what...release it man.
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post Oct 7 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Oct 6 2009, 05:23 PM)
Bro

singapore specs  biggrin.gif

Specs link
Us/canada specs...  drool.gif

Us specs

Malaysia?

brows.gif  hmm.gif
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my guess is the 1.6EX (A) would be the malaysian spec, maximum

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post Oct 7 2009, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ Oct 7 2009, 12:14 PM)
malaysia is damm freaking slow, holding back this car for what...release it man.
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tak mau jual ...
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post Oct 7 2009, 04:38 PM

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lookin at sg forte forum..there's certainly an issue with forte's windscreen sweat.gif
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post Oct 7 2009, 05:06 PM

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haaa... ya... that the biggest sofar...
but not unique to forte.. suzuki, subaru too have some of these problem.
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post Oct 7 2009, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Oct 5 2009, 09:09 AM)
burgerlim.. does your car come with climate control? I think the air cond compressor runs 100% all the way after we turn on the aircond. The temp is regulated by using hot water from the engine. kinda like hotel shower principle. does your compressor cut in and out?
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you are right, this is how some of the systems works.

pro:
- consistent temperature control, more comfort
- cooling coil on all the time, able to remove mositure and keep the cabin air dry
- temp regulation using radiator hot water, indirectly able to partially cool down the hot water
- relatively better reliability, as the clutch no need to cut in and out frequently
- can get warm air if outdoor temperature is cold

cons:
- more fuel consumption as the compressor runs all the time


Added on October 7, 2009, 5:43 pm
QUOTE(leftist @ Oct 7 2009, 04:38 PM)
lookin at sg forte forum..there's certainly an issue with forte's windscreen sweat.gif
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yup, problem on the first few batches but they have fixed it now.



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post Oct 7 2009, 05:55 PM

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Will they release the 2 door version, I really like that one...?
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QUOTE(atah @ Oct 7 2009, 05:43 PM)
you are right, this is how some of the systems works.

pro:
- consistent temperature control, more comfort
- cooling coil on all the time, able to remove mositure and keep the cabin air dry
- temp regulation using radiator hot water, indirectly able to partially cool down the hot water
- relatively better reliability, as the clutch no need to cut in and out frequently
- can get warm air if outdoor temperature is cold

cons:
- more fuel consumption as the compressor runs all the time


Added on October 7, 2009, 5:43 pm

yup, problem on the first few batches but they have fixed it now.
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Is it better? Compressor running all time will shorten the life span of the compressor.

If this is the case, will the maintenance cost for such cooling system higher than the normal cut in cut out type?

FC will be affected for sure.

Maybe the CKD version will be changed to the cut in cut out type.

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