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 Kia Forte, When will this beauty launch in MAS?

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post May 15 2009, 09:22 AM

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i think the price will be around 75k to 80k, which is similar to spectra5 when it was launched. i don't think will be below 70k or else waja & persona will be much affected.

the car size is almost similar to the current civic, so why not this car rather than the smaller vios/city?



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post May 15 2009, 10:39 AM

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ya, when ppl heard about kia or hyundai, 1st thing they will say is high fc lah, no value lah, expensive spare parts lah... etc....

but in fact they never drive one before, just heard from friend's friend, cousin brother's son's friend, etc...

so i guess this is the challenge that naza and sime darby have to overcome before they can make good business.

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post May 15 2009, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ May 15 2009, 12:08 PM)
exactly, unless everyone start to say that kia forte fc very good, can reach 20km/liter

or the car is using VVTI or i-VTEC technology yawn.gif
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current models of kia and hyundai already using cvvt, which is equivalent to vvti/ivtec. most likely forte will be using the same engine as spectra5, 1.6 cvvt timing chain.

it will not be possible to have a 1.3 ton car with 1.6 engine to achieve 20km/l, then those ppl need to look for kelisa or viva or maybe savvy. i'll be happy for 12km/l for urban driving.



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post May 15 2009, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(dantck @ May 15 2009, 01:39 PM)
if come out 1.6 ,sorry no way.
the looks already very good.
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ya, 2.0 will be more suitable for this car but it will then affect the optima, unless they are bringing in the optima 2.4

but with 124hp, that's not too bad as it's already one of the highest for 1.6 engines



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post May 15 2009, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 15 2009, 02:25 PM)
Guess the so called world reknowned designer's just a marketing gadget he probably dug the design out from his recycle bin.
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in design we can only have straight lines or curves, round or square. so combination is used, and some of them will look similar. as long as the overall shape looks nice and aerodynamic is good, who cares who copy who...

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post May 15 2009, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(dantck @ May 15 2009, 04:25 PM)
campro cps 125bhp
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post May 16 2009, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ May 15 2009, 05:50 PM)
sure or not?  whistling.gif
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sorry, my mistake doh.gif doh.gif

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post May 16 2009, 12:45 PM

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but it depends on how do u define the 'resale value'.

if u look at the amount, then it's similar if not better than other makes.

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post Aug 21 2009, 09:44 PM

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but at least kia has rectified the problem within a few months, while the power window problem is still around for almost 10 years.....


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post Aug 22 2009, 04:46 AM

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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Aug 21 2009, 09:54 PM)
i would wait for the Chevrolet Cruze. There is already a compare in one of singapore's automotive site...and I like what I read.
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but cruze will cost much more than forte...

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post Sep 11 2009, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 11 2009, 09:01 AM)
but FORTE  is 1.6  not 2.0 for our market ....if same with spectra5, then should be BETA II
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forte in singapore is using the same gamma engine as spectra5, with some minor tuning in ecu. should be the same here.


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post Sep 14 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 14 2009, 11:48 AM)
wow.. bobby.. nice update..

I am not too sure if you step the pedal all the way... though... will try on Cameron / Genting v.soon and shall update you..  i realize the program for Forte is not like most MIJ, you really need to step deeper / hard for the ECU to know "hei... i need more power.." Conti.. like pedal..

personally feel if step hard.. it comes with all the power....  rclxms.gif (at FC cost.. though..  blush.gif)

Not too sure of Spectra 5 in msia.. (below?), the specs comes with 108hp... but i dont think its not enuf to pedal to genting.. but never to expect much i think.. but really even sometime my Waja 1.6 mit engine (about 109hp) really feel week too in some of my trip up...
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Oh fyi, Forte's Gamma II engine comes with 124ps.. so think its >15% more from Spectra BetaII engine?
i saw some posts of forte genting trip and no one complains with the power.. so finger cross...
hope that helps...too..
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spectra5 here comes with 121ps gamma engine, forte with same engine but different tuning got 124ps.


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post Oct 7 2009, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Oct 5 2009, 09:09 AM)
burgerlim.. does your car come with climate control? I think the air cond compressor runs 100% all the way after we turn on the aircond. The temp is regulated by using hot water from the engine. kinda like hotel shower principle. does your compressor cut in and out?
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you are right, this is how some of the systems works.

pro:
- consistent temperature control, more comfort
- cooling coil on all the time, able to remove mositure and keep the cabin air dry
- temp regulation using radiator hot water, indirectly able to partially cool down the hot water
- relatively better reliability, as the clutch no need to cut in and out frequently
- can get warm air if outdoor temperature is cold

cons:
- more fuel consumption as the compressor runs all the time


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QUOTE(leftist @ Oct 7 2009, 04:38 PM)
lookin at sg forte forum..there's certainly an issue with forte's windscreen sweat.gif
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yup, problem on the first few batches but they have fixed it now.



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post Oct 8 2009, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Oct 8 2009, 09:38 AM)
i feel that my spectra5 FC getting worse..just over 4K on the road. now city driving is about 10 - 11 L/100km , mostly jams and start stop situation . I was thinking of using those fuel additives to help boost the torque. I've use them before in my old iswara, it gives better torque ,but not better FC in such light car. But in spectra5 i think should give better FC. anyone tried?
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just give esso ron95 a try. u might feel some wonders thumbup.gif thumbup.gif


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post Nov 24 2009, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Nov 24 2009, 06:56 PM)
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haha... the logo is still covered. i guess they have not decided whether to use naza or kia logo here hmm.gif hmm.gif


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post Nov 24 2009, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(kenincf @ Nov 24 2009, 09:29 PM)
Cannot see your attachment photos..
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it's the 2 pictures in previous page, the one looks like a weding car. doh.gif doh.gif



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