@Jcsy,i think your MSI mobo can o/c one jsut that the options there are limited. Your Prescott is really hot too,loading is 70 degree C.Scary.

@fylon,my idle temp was 20 degree C lower than yours. Loading time is about 60 degree C.Hot hot....

@Jcsy
Mine idle 65'c with OPEN case. If closed the panel.. Guess can boil water. Haha! But now moving to atom with HT.

yes, I was thinking about that also that my current mobo has some limitation, default is 200 and it can't exceed the 225 mark. Currently running at 220x14=3080mhz, higher than that say 225 the system will hang or restarted and the worst OS in the HDD corrupted, it happened 2 me twice luckily got backup using acronis.

This post has been edited by powerwoot: Jul 8 2009, 02:24 PM

@powerwoot,i guess your mobo is limiting you.Another thing might be your RAM,but possiblity is low since is Geil brand.

powerwoot, time to get abit IS7, hohoho

@Edmin

Haha.. I smell some promoting here.

@fylon,

no promo. just my 2 cents for fellow s478 fans, hohoho....

no pagefile issue solved. reporting in.\

after setting 'No pagefile', you must go to C: and delete the file 'pagefile.sys'.

Reboot. Enjoy the less hard drive activity!

powerwoot should shift to IS7-E,forgot edmin has a good mobo on his hand.

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Added on July 8, 2009, 9:48 pm@edmin,after deleted the paging file do you see any significant improvement there?

This post has been edited by raymond5105: Jul 8 2009, 09:48 PM

i thought that some programs still need to use the pagefile?

@ray,
using resource monitor, i can see that windows no longer pushes data to pagefile.sys. that means all apps I/O goes to available ram space.

@dlwl,
i m not sure but so far i get no application errors yet, i ran some games and photoshop too. will continue using windows normally for a week and report back if i faced any problems. theorically, pagefile is needed only when application requests for memory space that physical ram could not cater, therefore pushed back to hard disk's 'virtual application memory space'.

This post has been edited by edministrator: Jul 8 2009, 11:00 PM

yeah..those are the programs that require pagefile, or scratch disk as mentioned in photoshop. read some tweaks telling that it's better to turn off the pagefile, and some also mentioned otherwise. if really no problem then can turn off the pagefile and fully utilize the ram

Disabling the paging file is generally not a good idea. Especially if you game. You may get some system cache performance boosts, but you are sacrificing stability. If maybe you have 8GB-16GB, maybe can disable paging file. However if you are 4GB or under, I would not. To JCSY and others, 32bit Windows (normal XP, or Vista and 7 32-bit) can only address a _MAXIMUM_ of 4GB of memory. So when it has to deal with video card, and also device IO-memory space, it loses some out of that maximum of 4GB. At best, you will see maybe 3.75GB. On average, you get 3GB to maybe 3.5GB. If you use 64-bit Vista or Windows 7, you will not have this problem. 64-bit can address billions times more space than 32-bit (literally). If you are trying out the Windows 7 RC ( get it free before August 15th here: http://tinyurl.com/832nco ) and you have a Pentium 4, use 64-bit. All Pentium 4 chips are 64-bit, but can still operate 32-bit instructions. Core, Core2 and i7 are also 64-bit. Recent AMD chips are also 64-bit. Unless you go all the back to really old Athlons.

we have mentioned this fact before, too many times already even the past version of this thread. Yes, the people lingering here in this thread have pentium 4 s478 but not pentium D and certain p4 775 that has the 64bit capability. so your statement of all pentium 4 cpu are 64bit capable is utterly pointless and wrong in this thread. To correct the fact also, Intel Core series DOES NOT SUPPORT 64bit extension until the next generation which is Core 2 Duo.

as for the pagefile, some say if you have more than 2 GB, you can try and disable pagefile. some say you need more than that, microsoft on the safe side says it's not a good idea to disable pagefile. if windows cannot work without pagefile, why microsoft bothered to enable pagefile removal in the 1st place? i bet is due to too many hardware and RAM combinations behaviour that cannot be predicted by microsoft. i have no certain answer for the pagefile removal advantage at this point of time, but there's no harm in trying out new tweaks to boost our old rig, right? It won't kill your hardware anyway.

This post has been edited by edministrator: Jul 9 2009, 01:02 AM

Pretty misleading in this part. NOT all P4 are 64bit ready. Only P4 5x series in LG775 socket then Intel implement x64 instruction set into the chip. Link your source here for pointing all Pentium 4 chips including S478 are 64bit ready .

IS7? sounds yummy geographical logistic and monetary transaction may cause some problem where edmin is in soviet sarawak and I am in jebat the traitor land... getting the used unit is the only option nowadays for s478, very difficult to get a new one as many outlets does not keep this as stock any more. A Jurassic species to be true...

@powerwoot,quicly grab this mobo from him.You will have no regret with it.

i disable my page file once i hit anything above 2GB or more, havent seen anything wrong with no page file

obly wen i need 2 save logs of BSOD or certain apps require pagefile

s478 users here are not 64bit hence we are stuck at 4gb ram limit issue

we can probably see 3.2GB plus minus

@edmin, yeah my temp is 65C ful load if open casing and got aircond,lol

aircond drops generally 5-6 C in my room

@ed
nice 1, will try it tonight. now really lack of hdd space. lolz...

any improvement gain from disabling it??

i would say improvements is less hard disk thrashing since pagefile is not used, pushed to available ram space.

@jcsy,
nice feedback on pagefile, and u r right, eventlog of BSOD needs pagefile to work. as for your temp, do you plan to upgrade the cooling to better heatsink?