Recently, I am having problem to start the RE5.
Put in the disc, and no response from the XMB screen, need to eject, re-insert few time to load the game.
Initially, I thought is my laser lens is coming to end of its life.

But after google the net, found out that the problem is the tiny crack in the inner circle of the disc. (about 1cm crack).
Then i go through my games library, and found out that games that I bought between 2007-2008, all still in good condition and no crack on the disc.
Just the recent games I bought have this tiny crack, which is RE5, SF4 and Killzone2. Where the most serious crack is on the RE5. 1cm long.
So, what i suspect might be the disc manufacturer has reduce their cost and gave us some lower quality disc.

I am here just to give awareness to all of you...and becareful with the disc crack.
Now, i start storing all my discs in a soft plastic case, rather than push it back into the game box.

PS3 - Cracked Blu-ray Disc Picture Gallery
Picture Link :
***100% Unplayable Cracked Disc.***

*** WildPiew's Macro close up Crack Disc.***

PS3 - Solution/method to AVOID joining this Exclusive PS3 Blu-Ray Game Disc Crack Member

1. PREVENTION METHOD NO 1 : Use the RM0.20 pasar malam grade soft soft plastic sleeves to store your disc



The Region Cracked Disc Leaderboard

Game Region - Number of Cracked Encounter

Region 3 - 22 discs
Region 2 - No sighting yet
Region 1 - 1 disc
Region unknown - 8 discs

Total Damage COST = 30 disc X RM165(average cost) = RM 5115.00
* Wow, the cost of damage is reaching RM5000........impressive Blu-ray laser damaged.



Exclusive PS3 Blu-Ray Game Disc Crack Members

LYN ID - Game - Region Type - Date of purchased - Date of Cracked
1. Kenishi - [Killzone2, SF4, DemonSoul] - [R3] - [March] - [April]
2. shahreza2000 - [Killzone2] - [Nil] - [Nil]
3. eikan - [Killzone2] - [R3] - [March] - [April] || *** Eikan's Crack Picture***
4. Freakyzoid - [Prince of persia] - [NIL] - [2nd hand item] - [April] *** Freakyzoid's Crack Picture***
5. ono177 - [GTA4] - [NIL] - [NIL] - [2008]
6. shamsul_LP - [Fifa09] - [NIL] - [NIL] - [2008]
7. jhcj - [RE5] - [R3] - [NIL] - [May 2009]
8. serenum - [MGS4] - [NIL] - [NIL] - [May 2009]
9. enserv - [FIFA09, Killzone2] - [R3] - [NIL] - [May 2009]***Enserv's Picture***
10. Gigalixir - [DMC4] - [R1] - [NIL] - [March 2009]
11. abulabu - [SF4] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
12. K-End - [Red Alert 3, MGS4] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
13. colt_508 - [DMC4] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
14. shinjite - [DMC4] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
15. gundamalpha - [MGS4] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
16. TheUndead - [Resistance] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
17. ihavenoavatar - [WE09] - [NIL] - [NIL] - [2009]
18. eone - [LBP] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
19. solidsnake_84 - [FIFA09] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
20. BlastFromThePast - [DeepSpace, SF4] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
21. Kite - [Resistance 2] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
22. S4PH - [MGS4] - [NIL] - [NIL] - [2009]
23. hong553 - [RE5] - [NIL] - [NIL] - [2009]
24. syiafuku - [POP, WE2009] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]
25. animefreak2k4 - [RE5] - [R3] - [NIL] - [2009]

* Hope the list wouldn't get longer after this public awareness.

This post has been edited by Kenishi: Jul 9 2009, 11:02 AM

ah touch wood.....mine no crack...

Kenishi: Thanks bro...will remember to check the disc if this sort thing occurs..

the hard casing cd holder can cause the disc to break despite claim of lower quality disc

it happens to my 1st kz2 disc...

shahreza2000, so your first KZ2 also having this tiny crack?

I am planning to return the disc to the seller and ask for replacement.

always open the CD case in front of the seller
check them together ..before get out from the shop.

Hmm, i suspected this might happen, so what i usually do is press down on the 'lock' in the middle of the casing 1st, then push the disc in gently. It's minimal friction, and zero 'snapping'.

sony wont accept back the disc... ask the sellers here...

its a big crack on my 1st kz2 disc... cant detect by ps3

Hmm..this is no good.
We are paying RM100++ for a disc that can't last for more than 3 month.

So, i guess the seller or SONY site will just blame back the end user for in-proper handling the disc.

This post has been edited by Kenishi: Apr 30 2009, 12:44 AM

tiny crack caused by cd holder inside BD casing?

I always put my game in plastic case after buy it.(those colourful nipis one i bought at Sg Wang 3rd floor last time)
The box i put in those playasia's bubble plastic or cover back with the cover which seal the game when you first bought it.
Thats why all my box are like 100% new lol.

This post has been edited by Gahleon: Apr 30 2009, 02:03 AM

yeah.... it does happen

apparently bd movies cover is soft, not as hard as recent ps3 game casing...

Hm... never tot this thing could happen. But thanks for the warning. Better be careful next time.
Btw, Kenishi did you manage to get a replacement?

so is the little crack thing that make my RE very hard to load T_T , i tot was my lens problem

the little crack is not noticeable until u keep playing n playing... the disc keep spinning and spinning... eventually leading to a larger crack... thats what happen to my kz2 disc...

This post has been edited by shahreza2000: Apr 30 2009, 02:18 AM

When you wrote ps3 disc cracked as topic, I thought this topic is talking about jack sparrow game. Lol.

I've yet to buy a new game this last few month, but isnt the game usually sealed? Will be a real hassle if we only realize the disc is cracked at home.

This post has been edited by misterpotato: Apr 30 2009, 02:22 AM

yeah me too n i thought this thread started by abg kilat (abg kilat fans, dun flame me ok! kidding only)
hmm really need to be careful of all my games collection after reading this. rugi oo beli mahal2. sume R1 pulak tu.
thanks to TS

This post has been edited by uchiha_sauffie: Apr 30 2009, 02:38 AM

time to buy disc booklets and sleeves d
thank you ts for bringing this to our attention.

stored in a plastic sleeves just makes the precious ps3 game looks like jack sparrow game. sighh...

Kenishi,

show me pic of the cracks

wow...i tot bluray wont scratch...ni tetiba crack plak

that's weird, I noticed that there is a gap between the three cd holder pegs and inner circle BD when I place the cd inside casing, so no tension at all applied on the BD, not sure about the quality of the disc though

Tonight i will upload the photo of the crack line.

After 4 hours of warzone, my Killzone2 now is totally un-playable, due to the crack line extend into the body. Out of 5 times loading, 3 failed loading.
Really no idea what is causing the line extend. Is the casing or the PS3 machine cause the line extend?
Who wanna buy my KZ2???? offer me the price...haha.

So, now we have 2 ppl in this forum having problem with Killzone2.
Here are the detail about my Killzone2 and my PS3

Disc : Killzone 2
Region : 3 (First batch that reached Malaysia)
Playstation : Playstation 3 (80G) Malaysia Set

thanx for the warning...

Hmm, i've seen the way some people remove the discs from it's casing.

I wont be surprised if it cracked.

yeah..that thing should be handle with care, no need too much force from my manly man hands

Yup. It might be the person that handle the disc without care.
But, all my 2007-2008 disc doesn't have this tiny crack issue, just the recent game I bought have this crack problem.

Anyway, for those who really try to avoid the disc crack problem...

Press the centre button of the case to release the disc first....

Taking it off by force, will definately crack it overtime ...

- This message is to the people that dont know -

Believe me, there are a lot out there who doesnt know and just rips the disc out of the case. All the time, i will feel the pain the disc is enduring..

OUCH.

hehe

Some people just doesn't know how fragile electronic device is.

I could never trust someone other than me holding my psp an ds.

my housemate abuse my ds and play that pokemon ranger la....
now got 1 dead pixel at the touch screen there... i dunno is cause he press too hard or wat...
the screen also like less sensative d.. alwiz see him take the pen and then berputar putar fast fast on the screen.
*sigh*

if its jack sparrow, don't mind ler
if its BDR, gila wei, RM1xx-2xx stuffs just gone like that if its cracked.....

add me, my kz2 also crack exclusive member LOL .. same symptom, play KZ2 several time only, less than 10 times insert that disc. (play on weekend only)

Bought early March, Unreadable early April

if u notice i post on Posted on: Mar 29 2009, 02:56 PM, regarding my first issue on loading kz2

where's de crack ?

last time 2 of my jack sparrow game exploded in my old pc cd rom drive..

damn it.. those games are red alert 2 and tiberian sun....

need to open the thing and shake it out.. piece by piece..

once there's a crack in any part of a disc, when spin, the crack will grow.. sometimes this is becoz the X speed of the disc.




This post has been edited by unrealweapon: Apr 30 2009, 01:07 PM

look closely la can see it in inner ring

ahhh.. ok.. i saw it.. but still havent reach the data surface.

I think I can see it already kena the inner ring (if not mistaken) AKA TOC ring.

well doesnt matter la.. consider it kz2 lost. sedey woohhh after all the hardwork get badges lol and -RM180

This post has been edited by eikan: Apr 30 2009, 01:12 PM

This symptom is really scary........*touch wood*

ok will put my games in soft sleeves after this

thanks for the info

PS3's potential problem so far:

1. DLS
2. YLOD
3. LS
4. Thievery
5. DCr
6. Dust
7. Hair at heat sink (with dogs and cats)
8. D.Drive problem.
A report that a toddler once fit 3 ps3 games into the drive and obviously ... back to the shop

Did you know a woman once place a Credit Card into a Wii when it asked for a credit card? =P

that made laugh , where did it happened?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346968

This post has been edited by ronnt88: Apr 30 2009, 01:50 PM

Crack member list updated on first page.
I couldn't believed that how freaking fragile is this PS3 game disc.

This thread is mainly to give awareness to others members, surveying the quality of PS3 blu-ray disc and try to find out the possibilities that causing the disc to crack.

PS3 so far haven't encounter but i remember i have one PS2 disc with this problem.(original of course)

comment after see the pic

happen to me oso...last year gta4..crack about 0.5 cm...arghh cost me other 100++ to buy new one..

o.O quiet serious eh? thanks for the warning! i guess its time to look for a cd pouch.

Ok i have to clarify here

this issue i ask Sony before thru my supplier
Sony reply wont warranty any Software they distribute .. except .. if the Disc have watermark on it..

Eikan and Shahrezza is my customer was bought KZ2 on march..
i was complain about this inner ring crack.
but sony reply this is mistake on buyer cause they didnt take care when push out from the box....


what i know is RE5 and KZ2 have this problem.. it should be BD production problem

This post has been edited by alexwlh: May 1 2009, 01:03 AM

never knew got such cases. we pay so much for ori blu rays and this is what we get.
ts, lotsa thanks for sharing this info.

My Prince of Persia....
bought it 2nd hand.... didnt even realise it until the 2nd week...

game still playable...

This post has been edited by Freakyzoid: May 1 2009, 01:27 AM

well alex, thats the sony's poor response to date imho, it makes me angry that they don't listen to us as supportive gamers. Seriously we as customers who pays a lot of money for ori games, its not like we wanted to just pull our disc out by strong force until it "crack"... either its the casing too hard on the disc or the disc quality is subject for questioning...

i do agree that its BD production prob... since they beginning to produce cheap bds in China recently...

what we'll do is support you with evidences of bad bd disc quality

thank you alex again...

not just sony, other publishers are alike... if ur disc breaks, buy new one...

@freakyzoid - i think u should avoid playing that disc on ps3... so many cracks...

This post has been edited by shahreza2000: May 1 2009, 02:14 AM

Freakyzoid

it can ruin your PS3...the disc blow in PS3.. lot damage..

Scary..... i thou was a toilent hole with lots of hairs before i saw the playstation word

most of the cracks are from which region?
I checked mine so far all no cracks at the inner ring

can't say much abt which region ... my cracked kz2 disc is r3 apparently... checked all my movies and games bluray collection and they are fine...

no cracks means its good... do take care...

so far all my games i buy from you have no cracks. touch wood.

My God! how come the disc end up like that? even worse than less quality ahem disc

Gulp!!!!

wanna checked mine....

that disc.. whatta POP!

Finished the game and its epilogue too....

Wont be playing it that often already...

Was looking for this

not sure can help o not...

wahhh.. i want also..

to protect my BD disc game...

where to get that i look for it too

dunno ler...

why you asking me...?

i though you know already..sigh

lol, just order form the website laa

Today, since is a holiday day, and nothing to do. So, i just wanna do a measurement on the crack line and check will my ps3 causing the crack line to extend.

I put the killzone2 disc in PS3, with roughly about 10-15 times to eject, insert, eject, insert, eject, insert, eject........and finally it load up the game.
Have an hour of Killzone2 online session, take the disc out.
And found that the crack line already silently extend into the data area for another 5mm.

I believe that if the disc already got crack sign, and we keep on playing it.
The crack line will keep on extend.

My killzone2 =.=, may u rest in peace.
And my others 2 disc, RE5, and SF4...will join the ceremony soon.

probably that disc would extend the crack when it spins too fast inside the console

today i just bought cd wallets for my bd disc....
*sob*
really look like lanun games and pasar malam dvd
sakit hati

chill bro as long it can secure your BD rite cheer a bit....

by hook by crook as long that BD in good cond

My fifa09 also crack!!!

hurm, does this affect all regions or only region 3 bds? anyone with a cracked r1/r2 bd?

Could all this due to where we store our BD? Anything to do with our climate?

yea lor
bd safety > the outlook

i want to do like that too..

me too, yesterday just bought a cd pouch. now all my blu ray games are in cd pouch.

Yeah...now all my games is in cd pouch also.



For fifa09, u are not the only person that have this crack issue.
Got one dude from Singapore, his fifa09 cracked, bought another new one, play for few weeks, cracked again.

Seriously, should put all PS3 game discs into pouch? How come crack so easily?? Hmm... my games are still in the original covers

maybe you can try put superglue on the inner ring...then try again?

the BD cannot read because it is whobbling inside the ps3. ps3 cannot read...so mayb superglue the inner ring can help? but try to avoid uneven superglue...one side very thick, one side thin.... slight difference shud be ok

have u try it?

so far i dun hav crack bd discs.. hehhe... touch woodd...

The problem we are facing is the crack line extend into the data area,
and the crack line is not on the disc surface, is in the inner layer of the disc.
So, i guess the super glue wouldn't help much, and might damage ur lens.

cor blimey! put a superglue and use the said disc with your console?

if use superglue + the damage done to ps3 bd-drive = total loss

superglue the inner side...so its stronger and not extend....

bd drive can read easier....

but must careful dun put the glue near the data area, superglue are corrossive. since the bd also no use edi, can try loh.

what daa big risk..

how to put superglue when it is the inner layer that cracked..

also the crack is so minute...

dude...in the 1st place its not a good idea to put superglue on cd/dvd/bd discs...

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Added on May 2, 2009, 6:08 pm@kenishi...

apparently its common problem for disc medias to crack... so take care when handling any discs...


This post has been edited by shahreza2000: May 2 2009, 06:08 PM

just becareful

materials will crack eventually, depends on how its been handled

ah damn, i found a tiny crack on my RE5..

If the disc still readable and playable, try not to put back into the original casing anymore.

my MGS4 got cracked until i cant play the game.

im so frustrated.

Seems Sony trying to cut cost since they're losing money but make cheap low quality disc? come on Sony

hello there...
i think part of the cracked factor is because of heat.
the disc will become softer=fragile when it gets warmer if it stayed longer in the drive.
so immediate storing in the case might cause some stress to it.

Let the disc cool off for awhile after playing, then insert it gently into the casing.

This post has been edited by Bardds™: May 5 2009, 06:17 PM

what a lost man...
is there any way to replace/exchange it? im affraid it'll happens to me someday....all the hard earned cash, flushed into the toilet...

does it only affect r3 disc? bcos my fifa09 r3 starting to crack already.. my r2 blu ray disc looks fine to me...

aiya, my DMC4 region 1 cracked until the data section making the disc unplayable anymore 2 months ago...looks like many people have such problem also