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post Jun 4 2009, 03:00 PM

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isit worth changing to xp 64bit version then ?
o.o heard its not really good ? true? smile.gif
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post Jun 4 2009, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 02:57 PM)
discharge 1-2minutes.. where got 2hr..
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i read somewhere..
they dind mention to press the power button.. they said leave the pc for 2hrs..
i donno since its troublesome to remove the battry, i nvr did that before..

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post Jun 4 2009, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Jun 4 2009, 02:53 PM)
but i mean max ram i can use is 4gb on xp correct? o.O more than tht is no point true?
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32 bit windows is bout 3.2gb only...even vista can detect 4gb..but max usage also bout 3.2gb
unless using 64bit windows or other 64bit UNIX OS (ubuntu64 or mac )


Added on June 4, 2009, 3:04 pm
QUOTE(xcen @ Jun 4 2009, 02:56 PM)
The maximum RAM you can have in a 32-bit Operating System is 4GB, it has nothing that got to do with Windows XP, Vista, 7, Linux

You can have a 64-bit Windows XP accepting well more than 4GB of RAM.
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is 3.2 gb ...where got 32bit OS can max usage bout 4gb ??

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post Jun 4 2009, 03:07 PM

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any of you using 64bit windows xp? smile.gif
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post Jun 4 2009, 03:12 PM

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where in nilai u live?
coz im practical in nilai too..can learn OC from u ke?? tongue.gif
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post Jun 4 2009, 03:14 PM

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ACC support on sb750.. what about nvidia then?
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QUOTE(digswell @ Jun 4 2009, 03:01 PM)
32 bit windows is bout 3.2gb only...even vista can detect 4gb..but max usage also bout 3.2gb
unless using 64bit windows or other 64bit UNIX OS (ubuntu64 or mac )


Added on June 4, 2009, 3:04 pm

is 3.2 gb ...where got 32bit OS can max usage bout 4gb ??
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Sorry for the confusion, when I said can have 4GB i mean the operating system can detect 4GB

The maximum usable RAM a little bit more than 3.2GB only.


Added on June 4, 2009, 3:17 pm
QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Jun 4 2009, 03:00 PM)
isit worth changing to xp 64bit version then ?
o.o heard its not really good ? true? smile.gif
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Not good as in what?

The only disadvantage that really affects users is that some older applications can't find 64 bit version, but if I'm not mistaken there are emulators to 32-bit, not sure.

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post Jun 4 2009, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 03:14 PM)
ACC support on sb750.. what about nvidia then?
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doubt on dat..in certain forum said nvidia didnt support ACC..
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aiyo.. now go to windows pulak..

actually it's not 3.2 or 3.5.. it's depends on hardware.. savvy..
can anyone care to explain why not support 4gb?
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post Jun 4 2009, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 03:14 PM)
ACC support on sb750.. what about nvidia then?
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last time i use nvidia system utility..
can auto oc the proc also... newer chipset i donno la...
its ntune right? can change alot also... last time when i was a hyper noob, also able to change the pcie freq. noob know nothng. tot can boost the gpu

misunderstood..
i tot it was aod...
sory2

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The newer batch of 720BE got many reported unlocked to quad core or is it only the older golden batches?
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post Jun 4 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ Jun 4 2009, 03:25 PM)
The newer batch of 720BE got many reported unlocked to quad core or is it only the older golden batches?
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in other forum they say some batch can unlock but not stable..so the need to disable the 4th core..
i think the golden batch.. nod.gif


Added on June 4, 2009, 3:45 pm
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NVIDIA updates 780a chipset with ACC, nForce 770i coming
Written by Andreas G 19 August 2008 16:19

NVIDIA has unveiled to partners that there are two big updates coming to its chipset lineup. First of all, NVIDIA will update its AMD socket AM2+ chipset nForce 780a with Advanced Clock Calibration (ACC) to catch up to AMD's latest circuits. We were told that NVIDIA will connect the southbridge to the JTAG interface and then update the BIOS to support ACC for up to 10% better Phenom overclocks. NVIDIA will release a new revision of its nForce 780a reference board to partners soon. We know for a fact that Foxconn will update its family of motherboards with the ACC-capable nForce 780a. Other are expected to do the same, but we can't confirm this.

Beside the new revision of 780a, NVIDIA is planing a new Intel chipset that will be dubbed nForce 770i. This chipset is supposed to be a stripped down version of the high-end nForce 790i. Seeing as we were told this is a cheaper version of 790i we would assume that this is NVIDIA's answer to Intel's P45 with DDR3, but with SLI instead of CrossFire. Until know, performance segment users would couldn't get a motherboard with SLI support and DDR3, but this will be remedied by the nForce 770i by the looks of it.



Added on June 4, 2009, 3:51 pm
QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
aiyo.. now go to windows pulak..

actually it's not 3.2 or 3.5.. it's depends on hardware.. savvy..
can anyone care to explain why not support 4gb?
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this shuld answer ur question..

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
aiyo.. now go to windows pulak..

actually it's not 3.2 or 3.5.. it's depends on hardware.. savvy..
can anyone care to explain why not support 4gb?
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The range of integer values that can be stored in 32 bits is 0 through 4,294,967,295 or −2,147,483,648 through 2,147,483,647 using two's complement encoding. Hence, a processor with 32-bit memory addresses can directly access 4 GB of byte-addressable memory.


From Wikipedia

minus some hardware adresses (includin d amount of gpu's mem) so we get 3.xGB outta 4GB ram. not a gud explanation but it's something like this... sweat.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 4 2009, 03:23 PM)
last time i use nvidia system utility..
can auto oc the proc also... newer chipset i donno la...
its ntune right? can change alot also... last time when i was a hyper noob, also able to change the pcie freq. noob know nothng. tot can boost the gpu
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nvidia control panel would be something similar to acc i guess... nod.gif


The NVIDIA® Control Panel is NVIDIA's next generation hardware control application that unlocks the award-winning features of NVIDIA drivers. The NVIDIA Control Panel was designed by NVIDIA's dedicated user interface team to revolutionize software ease-of-use and ensure that set-up and configuration of your NVIDIA hardware has never been easier.

Featuring innovative multimedia, application, and display management, as well as gaming features, the NVIDIA Control Panel ensures compatibility, stability, and reliability for all NVIDIA platforms. In addition, the NVIDIA Control Panel is architected for Microsoft® Windows Vista™ and will be fully integrated with the new software infrastructures of its next generation, visually oriented operating system.

Historically, NVIDIA’s Control Panel has contained a wealth of settings and adjustments for NVIDIA GPUs and MCPs. In similar fashion, the NVIDIA Control Panel now applies the same depth of control to the rest of the core components within the system. Without ever leaving Windows or entering the BIOS users can optimize and adjust nearly every system component to minimize noise, increase stability, and maximize performance.

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Key GPU Features

•Simple steps with interactive pictures and descriptions guide you through set-up
•Advanced or beginner views for easy customization
•Optimal game quality with a real-time 3D quality preview
•HDTV quality settings allow you to take advantage of the latest widescreen panels
•Patented NVIDIA Unified Driver Architecture (UDA) supports all of your NVIDIA products
Key MCP features

•Adjust motherboard settings: Change system clocks, system voltages, system fans and memory timings
•Dynamic BIOS access: Change system BIOS settings without entering the BIOS
•Dynamically adjustable memory timings: Change critical memory timings without rebooting and without entering the BIOS
Key Performance Features

•New and improved task-driven user interface.
•Custom Profiles/Rules: Provides the ability to create or choose preconfigured profiles and rules to customize the circumstances under which different system settings get applied to maximize system stability and performance.
•Event logging: Allows the tracking of bus speeds, temperatures, voltages, and profile changes in a log file that may be imported to a spreadsheet application for in-depth analysis.
•Fall-back control: Provides the ability to identify the precise profile/rule associated with a crash (profile/rule will be disabled after crash).
•System troubleshooting: An automated reporting tool captures all needed information to help you determine when problems may be happening to the system, and helps you troubleshoot.
•Improved system monitoring: Temperatures, voltages, and bus speeds are now available as an "always-on-top" window with a transparency option so that it is visible at all times.
•Dynamically adjustable voltages and fan speeds: Adjust motherboard voltage levels without a reboot, as well as dynamically control fan speeds. New option for temperature-based fan control.


Source @ Nvidia
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hehe u guys really think i donno about that.. it's dejavu..

btw.. it's hard to get info on nvidia.. 980a..
just support ddr2? how to ask about ACC..

n yet silently release them?
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errmm, ive another question regarding my previous post.. sweat.gif

now that i know that gaming performance will be better with the higher core(comparison between x2 6000+ and phenom 9150e), but will the different very obvious? i mean if ive oc-ed the phenom to around 2.4ghz...

might wana use quad coz i always multitasking and lotsa programme running at the backgound... but then afraid using the phenom might drag down the gaming performance... hmm.gif

so what's the opinion of all sifus here? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sheenho @ Jun 4 2009, 04:17 PM)
errmm, ive another question regarding my previous post..  sweat.gif

now that i know that gaming performance will be better with the higher core(comparison between x2 6000+ and phenom 9150e), but will the different very obvious? i mean if ive oc-ed the phenom to around 2.4ghz...

might wana use quad coz i always multitasking and lotsa programme running at the backgound... but then afraid using the phenom might drag down the gaming performance...  hmm.gif

so what's the opinion of all sifus here?  biggrin.gif
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ask someone w 9150 & have similar gfx, ram to do test (both of you) on frequently used software/games for comparison. sometimes it depends on personal preference, some can live w few fps /seconds slower while some can't. i'm definitely not d latter type... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 4 2009, 04:22 PM)
ask someone w 9150 & have similar gfx, ram to do test (both of you) on frequently used software/games for comparison. sometimes it depends on personal preference, some can live w few fps /seconds slower while some can't. i'm definitely not d latter type...  laugh.gif
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well, im also dun really mind the small different which cant really notice by our eyes... and normally i jz play some rts and racing game, will the game performance(call what frame rate or something im not sure tongue.gif ) differ alot? i thought it's jz fps games that matter, whereas i dun play fps games.. (motion sickness rclxub.gif )
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Well..What kind of games anyway?
So far u may experience (starting little slow,loading..etc)..But no FPS drop or anything..at least for me smile.gif

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take latest chip regardless the core..
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QUOTE(sheenho @ Jun 4 2009, 04:17 PM)
errmm, ive another question regarding my previous post..  sweat.gif

now that i know that gaming performance will be better with the higher core(comparison between x2 6000+ and phenom 9150e), but will the different very obvious? i mean if ive oc-ed the phenom to around 2.4ghz...

might wana use quad coz i always multitasking and lotsa programme running at the backgound... but then afraid using the phenom might drag down the gaming performance...  hmm.gif

so what's the opinion of all sifus here?  biggrin.gif
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u can check the fps of the game..there are programs like that..in COD4 n Crysis they hv the option..

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