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 Faithful couple getting Herpes, Need serious advice

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post Apr 29 2009, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(liez @ Apr 29 2009, 07:48 AM)
sorry....a question out of topic... Mr cam...Are you a doctor??? Of yea r u specialised??? i am just curious for your unlimited knowledge. Or are you only a student? a 15 years old student who happened to be too genius and now studying in cambridge or Harvard medical school? @_@
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i'm just medical student. my knowledge is limited one. it's just i have a vision to help people understand more about diseases so that they gain better control over it
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post Apr 29 2009, 07:17 PM

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Er..can i know when our hand get herpes , will it become itchy ??
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post Apr 29 2009, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Apr 29 2009, 12:17 PM)
Er..can i know when our hand get herpes , will it become itchy ??
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Read About Herpetic Whitlow .wikipedia pun boleh.

also google the pix if it look identical. those itchy2 can be from anything

herpes is always painful
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post Apr 29 2009, 09:25 PM

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Painful?? Oh yeah..thank god..!! If i have herpes..i will cry..!! Anyway thank you so much..!! rclxms.gif
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post Apr 30 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(redninja @ Apr 28 2009, 01:02 PM)
I had to go back and re-read your original post and all the subsequent replies but the doctor didn't even do a swab and just proclaimed with visual examination that it is HSV-2?!

I'm not a doctor but there is no way that one can make such a distinction between HSV-1 or HSV-2 without a chemical analysis.

There are tons of different warts, ulcers that are not STDs.

Take your girlfriend to Pathlab or your GP (that will send the blood test to lab) and ask to specifically be tested for HSV-1 and HSV-2 immediately. They will test your blood. Do not go back to the same doctor. Get a second opinion.

Would appreciate if you keep us updated on this situation. Good luck.
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Sorry for the lack of update. The symptom is getting better now. I did call to the gynecologist on Monday as my girlfriend complained that some of the ulcers bled when she cleaned it with a liquid prescribed by the doctor. The doctor emphasized on the fact that my girlfriend was late in consulting her hence the infection got worse.

I initially did protest to the gynecologist that it is impossible for my girlfriend to have herpes since we're both clean. I also admitted that we only did oral & I guess it was all pointless as in her mind, we might be just another 2 young couple sleeping around. sad.gif

Anyway, I'll be dragging my girlfriend to the clinic again for follow up check even though she prefer not to. She was hurt by the 3 letter word STD. I've decided to ask for the gynecologist to try blood test on both of us, not to find out the source / why but at least to know what kind of antibody we have in our body (HSV1 / HSV2).

Looking for another gynecologist is almost out of the picture as my girlfriend is not the kind that find it easy to let a stranger see nor touch her part there. I think the gynecologist that we went to is pretty OK, just that her mindset might be a little bias. I'll see what is the update this weekend & let you guys know.

Thank you very much for the concern & if possible, do spread the information to those close to you on the possibility of herpes infection thru non-sexual activity. notworthy.gif

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post Apr 30 2009, 12:26 AM

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hope u two will get along until marriage. good luck.
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post Apr 30 2009, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Apr 29 2009, 09:25 PM)
Painful?? Oh yeah..thank god..!! If i have herpes..i will cry..!! Anyway thank you so much..!!  rclxms.gif
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Yes, it's very painful. Every time my girlfriend washed the part there with the liquid prescribed / applied the cream / pass urine, it'll hurt so much that she'll cry. cry.gif Although I'm not the one infected, it pains me to see her in this condition.

Well, I think there will be a time when I'm the one that will get infected down there so I'm pretty prepared. smile.gif Wish me luck. rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(encikcam @ Apr 30 2009, 12:26 AM)
hope u two will get along until marriage. good luck.
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Thank you encikcam. I can't stress enough on the tremendous help you've provided. I also noticed that you've been changing your avatar & signature a lot. smile.gif All the best in your studies!

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QUOTE(neverendingsigh @ Apr 30 2009, 12:22 AM)
Sorry for the lack of update. The symptom is getting better now. I did call to the gynecologist on Monday as my girlfriend complained that some of the ulcers bled when she cleaned it with a liquid prescribed by the doctor. The doctor emphasized on the fact that my girlfriend was late in consulting her hence the infection got worse.

I initially did protest to the gynecologist that it is impossible for my girlfriend to have herpes since we're both clean. I also admitted that we only did oral & I guess it was all pointless as in her mind, we might be just another 2 young couple sleeping around. sad.gif

Anyway, I'll be dragging my girlfriend to the clinic again for follow up check even though she prefer not to. She was hurt by the 3 letter word STD. I've decided to ask for the gynecologist to try blood test on both of us, not to find out the source / why but at least to know what kind of antibody we have in our body (HSV1 / HSV2).

Looking for another gynecologist is almost out of the picture as my girlfriend is not the kind that find it easy to let a stranger see nor touch her part there. I think the gynecologist that we went to is pretty OK, just that her mindset might be a little bias. I'll see what is the update this weekend & let you guys know.

Thank you very much for the concern & if possible, do spread the information to those close to you on the possibility of herpes infection thru non-sexual activity. notworthy.gif
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TS, a doctor should NEVER be bias against his/her patients. Regardless of how, why, who, they should never treat their patients differently. If the gynae can diagnose a STD based on visual observation only and concludes that 'ah, this two has been sleeping around', I really don't think that's professional of her to do that. Unfortunately, if your gf is adamant to not letting a stranger touch and see her... it'll hard to get a second opinion from another doctor. You ask your gf if she'd rather risk being diagnosed wrongly or be shy.

Good luck and speedy recovery wish to your gf. Do update us ya.
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post Apr 30 2009, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(neverendingsigh @ Apr 30 2009, 12:22 AM)
Sorry for the lack of update. The symptom is getting better now. I did call to the gynecologist on Monday as my girlfriend complained that some of the ulcers bled when she cleaned it with a liquid prescribed by the doctor. The doctor emphasized on the fact that my girlfriend was late in consulting her hence the infection got worse.

I initially did protest to the gynecologist that it is impossible for my girlfriend to have herpes since we're both clean. I also admitted that we only did oral & I guess it was all pointless as in her mind, we might be just another 2 young couple sleeping around. sad.gif

Anyway, I'll be dragging my girlfriend to the clinic again for follow up check even though she prefer not to. She was hurt by the 3 letter word STD. I've decided to ask for the gynecologist to try blood test on both of us, not to find out the source / why but at least to know what kind of antibody we have in our body (HSV1 / HSV2).

Looking for another gynecologist is almost out of the picture as my girlfriend is not the kind that find it easy to let a stranger see nor touch her part there. I think the gynecologist that we went to is pretty OK, just that her mindset might be a little bias. I'll see what is the update this weekend & let you guys know.

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I'm sorry but this doctor is showing absolutely bad judgment. I do not recommend that you go back and see her again. Even if your gf shy, please go find another woman gynecologist or even just a regular GP (or Pathlab etc) and ask to get your blood checked for STDs. It's just a blood test! Spend like $100-200 and get your mind at ease without dealing with such prejudice from your doctor who should be treating you based on the facts (or data, which she doesn't even have?!)

What kind of ulcers are they? Do they grow in clusters, then pop and scab over?

It is important that you determine whether it is herpes or not. As the previous posters have suggested, herpes is with you for a lifetime and in the future when she has an outbreak you will have to take precautions i.e. not have sex during outbreak. Although there are cases where the virus can be passed along even when it's not during an outbreak so that's why there is a stigma of sorts attached to it.

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post Apr 30 2009, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Apr 30 2009, 07:28 AM)
TS, a doctor should NEVER be bias against his/her patients. Regardless of how, why, who, they should never treat their patients differently. If the gynae can diagnose a STD based on visual observation only and concludes that 'ah, this two has been sleeping around', I really don't think that's professional of her to do that. Unfortunately, if your gf is adamant to not letting a stranger touch and see her... it'll hard to get a second opinion from another doctor. You ask your gf if she'd rather risk being diagnosed wrongly or be shy.

Good luck and speedy recovery wish to your gf. Do update us ya.
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I'm not saying that she showed clear sign of being bias but it's just my personal opinion based on the things she said. That's the main reason why I'm willing to visit her another time, to get a clearer answer as our first visit did not end up being pleasant. I think we were too shocked to think things through & missed some important questions like doing a test on the both of us.
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Nevertheless, all the best. Hopefully everything will turn out well for both of you.


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post Apr 30 2009, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(redninja @ Apr 30 2009, 08:59 AM)
I'm sorry but this doctor is showing absolutely bad judgment. I do not recommend that you go back and see her again. Even if your gf shy, please go find another woman gynecologist or even just a regular GP (or Pathlab etc) and ask to get your blood checked for STDs. It's just a blood test! Spend like $100-200 and get your mind at ease without dealing with such prejudice from your doctor who should be treating you based on the facts (or data, which she doesn't even have?!)

What kind of ulcers are they? Do they grow in clusters, then pop and scab over?

It is important that you determine whether it is herpes or not. As the previous posters have suggested, herpes is with you for a lifetime and in the future when she has an outbreak you will have to take precautions i.e. not have sex during outbreak. Although there are cases where the virus can be passed along even when it's not during an outbreak so that's why there is a stigma of sorts attached to it.
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To be frank, my girlfriend is the type that prefer not to reveal too much of herself especially her medical history. To have herself infected with STD when she is still a virgin, she find it very hard to accept especially since she now has a record in the clinic. It's extremely difficult too as she has to hide this from her family, colleagues & friends even though she was in pain all the time down there.

Moreover, she is in the process of getting herself an insurance policy hence she prefer not to go to those lab where her personal details will be recorded down. Please be rest assured that I'm not the type to let this slip by as I've mentioned in my previous post that we do intend to ask the gynecologist for a test on us.

I've read many articles on herpes since the day she was diagnosed & the description fits the symptom. It started with blisters & became ulcers before spreading from her labia majora to labia minora (correct me if I'm wrong with these majora & minora terms as it was 8 years ago when I learned about them in Form 6 Biology).

I've also read that an ulcer swab test should be done in 72 hours when the outbreak began but it has been 5 days after she got infected that she agreed to follow me to a gynecologist hence I think it's too late to do that test. I guess the only way left would be to check for the HSV1 / HSV2 antibodies in our body through blood test.

We've decided not to kiss if any of us have mouth ulcers & sex is still out of the picture since we've yet to marry. blush.gif But we do agree that in the future if there's an outbreak down there, no sex will be entertained even though I read that I still can be infected even if there's no outbreak (some kind of asymptomatic viral shedding).

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post Apr 30 2009, 01:54 PM

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no offend here, but if u both can go to oral, u might have already had some genital contact. try test yourself for it too. it can help you to take and use some precaution. also can tell if u are the carrier.
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QUOTE(AiRseaL @ Apr 30 2009, 01:54 PM)
no offend here, but if u both can go to oral, u might have already had some genital contact. try test yourself for it too. it can help you to take and use some precaution. also can tell if u are the carrier.
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If you're talking about our genital areas brushing / having contact with each another, then no, we never go that far. Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'll definitely get myself tested.
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QUOTE(neverendingsigh @ May 1 2009, 01:25 AM)
If you're talking about our genital areas brushing / having contact with each another, then no, we never go that far. Like I mentioned in my previous posts, I'll definitely get myself tested.
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I think the person above meant mouth-genital contact, which is also another pathway for virus transmission.

Anyway, I agree with the suggestions to get a blood test to confirm. Once you have the results then it's easier to move forward with the next steps.
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im really sorry for u guys...specialy ur gf......

u really need to support her emotionally..umm..i think u should try looking for another opinion to really confirm everythinggg

sorry i cant be much of a help...
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post May 2 2009, 08:22 PM

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Both of us have just had our blood taken for HSV1 & HSV2 tests. Result will be out next weekend.

At the same time, more dosage of acyclovir pills & cream since my girlfriend has ran out of them. Hoping that she'll recover fully by this weekend.
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Hope it don't affect both of your relationship ya. I am sure your gf will need alot of your support now.
And also if you so trust each other,, continue trusting each other ya.
STD actually is very common, even most people having it but don't realize themself.
For your part, just being faithful to your gf next time.
Herpes can be control yet not fully healed.
Proper medication will helps controlling it ya and can have normal and happy life.

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post May 5 2009, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(AiRseaL @ May 4 2009, 02:26 PM)
Hope it don't affect both of your relationship ya. I am sure your gf will need alot of your support now.
And also if you so trust each other,, continue trusting each other ya.
STD actually is very common, even most people having it but don't realize themself.
For your part, just being faithful to your gf next time.
Herpes can be control yet not fully healed.
Proper medication will helps controlling it ya and can have normal and happy life.
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Haiz... I guess I can't really avoid the impression of me being unfaithful once I declared that I am the cause of my girlfriend being infected with genital herpes... even though I have stated in the thread title that both of us have never had other partner in our life prior to the current situation. doh.gif

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QUOTE(neverendingsigh @ May 5 2009, 01:28 AM)
Haiz... I guess I can't really avoid the impression of me being unfaithful once I declared that I am the cause of my girlfriend being infected with genital herpes... even though I have stated in the thread title that both of us have never had other partner in our life prior to the current situation. doh.gif
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Then it will be quite a mystery as to how your gf got the infection. If both of you have been faithful to each other then it is a big question as to how she got it - it's worrying because it means people can unknowingly catch it.

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