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 Planted Aquarium V2, unveal the secret underwater world

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post Nov 3 2009, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Nov 3 2009, 01:11 AM)
>.< i now realise that there are brownish dusty thing coating the leaves of my plants
whare are these?

green dust algae or diatoms/brown algae?
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post Nov 3 2009, 11:02 AM

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@ fallen angel,

You mean the water itself is green? this is the one caused by sunlight.. called Green water, Only solution for this when outdoors is an UV filter... the SAE doesn't polish your water friend.. lol.

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post Nov 3 2009, 08:37 PM

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hi guys.. just bought a JBL ferropol... rm35~ hope it will help my nana and moss grow well.. flex.gif

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Added on November 3, 2009, 8:39 pmchuppy~ currently.. 2 pieces of my nana's leaf hav turned and turning to yellow... do i need trim it..?


Added on November 3, 2009, 9:56 pm
QUOTE(daijoubu @ Nov 3 2009, 01:11 AM)
>.< i now realise that there are brownish dusty thing coating the leaves of my plants
whare are these?

green dust algae or diatoms/brown algae?
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same problem with me before i use BACTER BALL..

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post Nov 3 2009, 11:16 PM

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please do trim biggrin.gif

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post Nov 4 2009, 12:12 AM

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trimmed and dosed 5ml JBL fert.. hope my moss and nana will be better soon... now feel wanna buy soil and plant dwarf hairgrass.. what dwarf hairgrass needs ?
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post Nov 4 2009, 02:11 AM

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my hair grass are sending out runners... but at vr slow pace... sad.gif
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at last got a photo of my garra... drew, any idea??..

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post Nov 4 2009, 08:32 AM

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Doesnt look like ceylonensis, but I may be wrong.

@fongzai,
Dwarf hairgrass IMO, needs

moderate to high amounts of light,

Moderate to high amounts of c02..

In other words, moderate to high tongue.gif

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post Nov 4 2009, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Nov 3 2009, 08:37 PM)
same problem with me before i use BACTER BALL..
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correction,
bacter ball increase/enhance the benificial bateria growth, not algae fighter
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post Nov 4 2009, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 4 2009, 04:22 AM)
at last got a photo of my garra... drew, any idea??..

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i think u better remove the stick next to it be4 the bba geting worst....
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Nov 4 2009, 08:41 AM)
i think u better remove the stick next to it be4 the bba geting worst....
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tongue.gif at the beginning i though was some type of moss
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Nov 4 2009, 08:32 AM)
Doesnt look like ceylonensis, but I may be wrong.
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no wonder mine so shy... sad.gif

QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Nov 4 2009, 08:41 AM)
i think u better remove the stick next to it be4 the bba geting worst....
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its been there since few months ago... algae is currently under control... i'm happy as long as no hair algae... bba and bga looks great to me on the wood and rocks... lolz... laugh.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 03:09 PM

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u sure is bga, bga very smelly 1

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post Nov 4 2009, 03:23 PM

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i think the bacteria also lower down the ammonia.. and ammonia is one of the source of algae...

if im mistaken.. pls correct ya... tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 05:22 PM

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that is CAE, brown color type. CAE got yellow and brown color, both gone crazy when got shock. Small tank not really recommended to keep them, use otto better.

BBA, no such thing of under control, it will soon slowly spread out to other places like glass, filter, plant, wood, tiny till that you won't spotted them, once you spotted, it'll be too late because it is every where. I had that experience before and it was a 4ft tank, end up tear down whole tank. Better be safe than regret later.
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post Nov 4 2009, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Nov 4 2009, 08:32 AM)
Doesnt look like ceylonensis, but I may be wrong.

@fongzai,
Dwarf hairgrass IMO, needs

moderate to high amounts of light,

Moderate to high amounts of c02..

In other words, moderate to high tongue.gif

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32watt for 20L tank... is that enough for dwarf HG ?
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post Nov 4 2009, 09:52 PM

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Yea should be fine..

Also, Bacter ball just boost filter beneficial bacteria activity, Nice concept fongzai, BUT, Algae doesn't nly appear from high ammonia n02, n03 levels.. N03 for example, can only be removed by healthy plants or water change... so don't rely it there..

Algae appears also from overdosing fetilizer, bad tank maintenance- not enough TLC , and unstable c02.. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 5 2009, 03:19 AM

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i see.. learnt another lesson from chuppy kor~ biggrin.gif

any1 use JBL Ferropol for their liquid fertiliser ?? wondering the " performance " of their product..
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Nov 4 2009, 03:23 PM)
i think the bacteria also lower down the ammonia.. and ammonia is one of the source of algae...

if im mistaken.. pls correct ya... tongue.gif
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ammonia (NH3) that is produced by the bacterial mineralization of fish wastes, excess food, and the decomposition of animal and plant tissues.

Nitrite poisoning inhibits the uptake of oxygen by red blood cells. Known as brown blood disease, or methemoglobinemia, the hemoglobin in red blood cells is converted to methemoglobin. This problem is much more severe in fresh water fish than in marine organisms. The presence of chloride ions (CL-) appears to inhibit the accumulation of nitrite in the blood stream.

Nitrifying bacteria are classified as obligate chemolithotrophs. This simply means that they must use inorganic salts as an energy source and generally cannot utilize organic materials. They must oxidize ammonia and nitrites for their energy needs and fix inorganic carbon dioxide (CO2) to fulfill their carbon requirements. They are largely non-motile and must colonize a surface (gravel, sand, synthetic biomedia, etc.) for optimum growth. They secrete a sticky slime matrix which they use to attach themselves.

All species have limited tolerance ranges and are individually sensitive to pH, dissolved oxygen levels, salt, temperature, and inhibitory chemicals.

The optimum pH range for Nitrosomonas is between 7.8-8.0.

The optimum pH range for Nitrobacter is between 7.3-7.5

The temperature for optimum growth of nitrifying bacteria is between 77-86° F (25-30° C).

Excess organics and ammonia/ammonium levels will result an algae break-out.

Please do not reduce nutrients like NO3 and PO4 in planted tanks to fight algae! By reducing them you will only induce algae even more! NO3 and PO4 can cause algae issues ONLY if they are MISSING!
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post Nov 5 2009, 09:12 AM

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" Please do not reduce nutrients like NO3 and PO4 in planted tanks to fight algae! By reducing them you will only induce algae even more! NO3 and PO4 can cause algae issues ONLY if they are MISSING! "

Is too GENERAL IMHO. What if the tank is not as healthy? not much plants maybe? then how would this apply lol. If the plants aren't even having optimum conditions to begin with, let's say a tank with no c02, 29Celcius , and this guy still fertilize it, even with full fledge rotalas, they'd melt somehow due to no c02 injection. ( further contributing bad elemts to the water column)

IN a healthy tank on the other hand, we purposely dose phosphate , pottasium and nitrogen.. hence NPK. tongue.gif and nitrate would be kept minimum automatically due to the high plant mass...

Just sharing, feel free to correct me. biggrin.gif
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