it really bewildering how so many so called "educated and informed" ppl can still fall for this scam....nothing free in this world....u gotta work for it. don't be greedy la. imho...those who kena scam it's yr own doing. no 1 else to blame....heck i don't even blame the scammer.

those promoter approach me last 2 weeks, freaking rude after i reject him

i no blame them, just wana to pay back my money... i pay 1k...even is 900 also can....

For the rest of you who didn't get scammed, you should be at least sympathetic. Just because you are "smart" enough to notice the scam, doesn't mean others are as lucky. No one ever wanted this to happen.

If I were to blame, I blame the government for not issuing a warrant to clear them up despite the many court cases that happened. (Maybe the judge too boring, need more court case)

Don't worry, if you have the award letter with you, they must follow the letter. Or else action can be taken against them. And I think they will give you the money straight away without negotiating. (They must be earning more than they are paying back)

you never learn and success if you din make any mistakes.... ^^
nobody is blaming over here....

agree with you....

OMG I knew it.

I want to share my story.

Tonight I was about to go back from Low Yatt so I walked near the bridge and one young guy approached, saying I should open the Mega Sale 2009 card for fun. I might win discount price to buy electronic goods. I asked him if I have to pay for anything and he said no so I said what the hell..

I opened it I have silver color..which means I have special prize. He was EXTREMELY shocked, omg, you should have seen his acting skill.. he should win an oscar! He said I might win a car or at least, minimum RM7,000.. he told me to call someone to confirm and she was shocked as well and told me to drive with the guy back to the office to claim the prize.

So I did. I kept asking him whether I have to pay for anything, which I won't, and he kept insisting NO. He showed me a lot of newspaper clippings. Even said one of the companies is Genki (like Genki Sushi, wtf). Since it involves no money I said what the heck.

He even gave me to keep his IC as proof that he's not lying to me. They disgust me. His acting was so trained and so good, he told me to call up Ms Liu or something, and now she has my phone number. Crap. He even asked me to treat him, or give him ang pau or money.. like above RM1000 wtf? I said if I really do win I'll treat him dinner.. he was so happy.. he probably was hoping for a good free dinner tonight. Same with the lady, to give her 'and pau' and they keep reminding I won't be like "kacang lupakan kulit"..waaaah

The office is the same as many others have mentioned, STARR HEALTHCARE (M) SDN BHD. Then there I was congratulated by a lady. Then they started explaining. Bla bla bla UNTIL the part where I heard I have to pay RM5,000 for the government tax. INSTANTLY in my head I said I KNEW IT! IT'S A FRICKEN SCAM.

I started to argue back. The list of prize are:
1. Toyota car
2. Proton Perdana
3. Another car
4. Plasma TV 42'
5. Jade Matress
6. Trip to I forgot where or trade for cash RM15,000
7. Trip to I forgot where or trade for cash RM11,000
8. Trip to Japan or trade for cash RM9,000
9. Trip to Bali or trade for cash RM7,000

If IN CASE I don't win, which she guaranteed me has never happened, they still would give you RM8000 as a 'sorry for lying to you' to shut your mouth.

I kept arguing, WHY do I have to pay the money? I kept insisting I want to know the prize first so I can decide but they won't let me unless I pay half. I said I don't have money. She thought I'd have at least Rm1000 or RM 2000. I said I only have RM200 and they were shocked as hell haha. They are trying to scam a poor student. They kept asking me if I"m lying and I said I might have RM600 and they asked me to withdraw ALL! I said WTF how am I gonna survive if I emptied my bank account?! They keep insisting I PAY.

I kept arguing and arguing WHY I can't see the prize first.. they said if I won the car I'd run away.. I said if I won the money, you can take the RM5000 from the winning and I'd at least have RM2000.. nope, cannot. I said I'm not gonna pay first no matter what until I see my prize. It's the usual shit - 15 mins all the stuff will arrive, bla bla, call factory bla bla. You know why? Because all those things don't exist, you are for SURE to get the Jade mattress, which they claimed to be about RM 7000...which is BS. They'll help you sell it if you don't want it but you give them commission.

I was pissed and said to the young boy YOU TOLD ME I DON"T HAVE TO PAY! He said he 'forgot' until the lady mentioned it. Sheesh. The way they pressured me was so intense, they'll keep twisting their words until you go blur. But hah, they don't know I'm not easy to fall for this scam. I told them I"m calling my mom. They got so pissed at me haha.

He even said that I'd put RM300 deposit first and register my name, but I still won't get to see the prize until i pay at least Rm1100. I was like WTF? YOU'RE ASKING ME TO PAY DEPOSIT FOR REGISTERING MY NAME? All sorts of bullshit. But the more I argue, the more their lie is out in the open.. At last I called my mom she said no, so I went back.

At least now I know how to get to Danau Desa haha. They think I"m so stupid. Please, if you come across people like this, PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY.. actually if you think carefully they've already secretly hint you that you're about to be scammed, just that you are too excited to win a car prolly you ignore it.

The suspicious things:
- Why I can't see the prize and have to pay
- They claimed only 200 of these 'lucky card' distributed in malaysia, then how would others in other state claim their prize if the prize is in the factory? 200 cards but just a few prizes?
- RM5000 for brandless things? Come on.
- Never heard before company like Yusho and Kenko.
- They way they pressure you and acting all creepy, that you HAVE to pay that night and withdraw whatever you have.
- Suspicious winner photos and news article (PLEASE read it carefully)

Beware. They were so many of them. All races. They will start to get so frustrated if you keep arguing and questioning them. and NEVER say you have money.

Here's the address I was given to:

5-1-8, Jln 3/109F,
Taman Danau Desa,
58100 KL.

01202241076 - Say Yee

They've been at the Times Square area (Jln Imbi) for sooooo long already. Somebody need to do something to shut down this scammers once and for all!

This post has been edited by tokyotenshi: Oct 2 2009, 01:34 AM

good job, bro..

There is nothing free in this world...Get it through your thick skull.

You can't even care to spare any loose change to the handicapped fella sitting outside Imbi plaza. Pathetic...

There is a sucker born every second..sounds familiar?

Cool! And congrats for giving them the kick

u know what will be funny? play along with their act and when they ask to deposit money, u said u want to call the bank to confirm. but instead, u dial 999 or 112 and make ur report there and then. the horror resonates from their faces will be priceless.

hoho... lucky for me i got face problem.. haha.. dats y they never approach me... guess face problem does have benefits too...

dude,

we're lucky that we are already "educated and informed" and didnt fall for it. But I don't want my relatives and friends to fall for it.

Lastly, I would blame myself for overestimating their level of awareness.

Susah oso when u see dem sad and you end up going all the hassles and time consuming for complaints / court .

So, it's very important to take this thing seriously and spread the word to avoid it happen.

Spot them at KL sentral near opps monorail during lunch hour . Almost kena but I just don't see , don't hear. them

It's amazing how they can twist their words to make you believe them or to stump you so that you become so blur and confused you'd end up giving money. It's like hypnotizing.

So that's why even the smart educated people can sometime fall for it, because these scammers improvise everytime to make it believable. I remember when I was little and my mom was being scammed, it was just so obvious that they ask you to buy their products first which cost thousands more than what it should, then do the lucky draw and you just win crap stuff. Mine was to promote their stuff, but it's just those crap on government tax which was believable at first until they mentioned RM5000 and started being all creepy, forceful and downright rude.

But now they twist their words and can really talk.. and even use young teens. I was approached by a 17 yr old who looks sooooo innocent and was soooooo surprised and excited when I 'win' the special gift. Not many can instantly know a young teen would be involved in a scam like this.

I'm sure in a while, they'll change this tactic again to something new because everyone already know this old tactic, and new uninformed people might unfortunately fall for it because it's so believable. Just like pirates who sells pirated dvd, they improvise their way of selling it to be undetectable by the authorities and getting smarter and smarter.

I've also seen a couple of them near Pudu Raya Bus Terminal. They are standing outside the Nando's retaurant near the junction turning into Jln Sultan...

HI,my fren just got into this scam few days ago.After i read all all the post i feel so pissed off with the company.But the case now is he wan to refund the product,on the receipt written there original price 3k + harga cagaran 1k balance 2k +.

IS it those who kena scam receipt aso written such way?
Whre is the nearer Tribunal Pengguna in Kl ?
And how much to pay for the court?

how much your friend pay to them?