lol --" graduate from engineering course then already an engineer already meh???
not need to take exam in BEM then only can be a register engineer?

i not saying KUiTTHO is not good n Uniten is better, my main point it the surounding la guys...

if u went to KUiTTHO u end up with.. 1980 Selangor...
if UNITEN ur in the new millenium...

Bro n sis, if IPTAs is not good i wouldnt be there...
im just giving the kid a point o my view...
IPTS do tend to treat their student more "manja"...

im giving all this pro n cons.. so that this guy wouldnt end up like me..
becos he have the chance to CHOOOSEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


yenadey... thats the main reason he started the tread.... hahaha


okey guys...

good luck in everything....

thats all from me... chow...

ok, i read all the comments, now i have made up my mind, i will go to UTHM.
why i choose uthm, because it is cheap compare to uniten, i dowan to owe so much money from ptptn, it is not a wise choice to owe a huge amount of money in the future. since uthm and uniten both oso accredited by bem, and uthm is a local uni and just upgraded to uni status, i believe in the future uthm will b better because uthm got doctorate programs, and their lecturers are doctorate holder too, i believe they can teach well but got into uni, it canot fully depends on lecturers, have to put more effort in selfstudy.
once again, i really appreciated to all the forumers dropped a lot of experiences, thoughts, good and bad for both uni, if u guys dont share all the thoughts, i guess i still canot make up my mind now, thanks a lot to all of u!! I LOVE U GUYS! THANKS!! may god bless u all and good luck!!

regards,
hsien

To TS, u made a good choice. dont go to uniten, the fees is to expensive.
just go to UTHM and graduate with good result... make sure to prepare urself with skill before u graduate...nowdays a lot off graduate from IPTA/IPTS, prepare ur self with skill dude.. all the best

hi...sorry late reply ur pm ya. yup i've ask some of d seniors. civil's syllabus/course is in english. honestly la, it depends on lecturers. if there is @least 1 foreign student d whole class wil be conducted using english. but of course if students don understand n require d lecturer 2use bm d lecturer wil translate in bm once in awhile. it coult be 50/50 or perhaps 60/40 vice versa.

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Added on June 24, 2009, 12:50 amyes of course y not? u can drive n park inside uthm but u have 2 1st register 4ur plate in uthm n get d uthm sticker so u can go in n out uthm freely. der r procedures actually. mayb u can drive to here during 2nd sem or later after familiar with the road 1st.
erm..male n female ratio...owh~ im not so sure but i do know d coming intake der r more males n mostly r taking engineering.

This post has been edited by BHS: Jun 24 2009, 01:06 AM

lol TS, i dun agree with u this point, have doctorate program not mean better ok? many of the private U also have doctorate program, that just a program cannot show that its a good university.

beside that, most of the university also full of phd holder lecturer, depend whether the lecturer itself can elaborate the point efficient or not... not mean PHD holder lecturer must be better than master degree holder, there are no such thing.
i bet u to view yourself even some master degree lecturer are much more proffesional and well in teaching than a so called phd holder lecturer.

dunno enhoo or BHS agree my point or not, even a lecturer have PHD but they still lousy in teaching, sometimes cant even answer then student question? this type of lecturer sure have in anywhere de.

hi there hsien, i do agree with keejoy's post. u can't view it like tat. many unis do offer phd prog n this doesn't mean unis offering phd prog r d greatest of all n so so. majority of phd holders r greatly experience n pro but not all. indeed this case happen everywhere be it ipta or ipts. besides, it's gud u think like dat which u said effort is not on lecturer alone, but u urself hav2 be part of it, selfstudy+hard work. all d best yo.


btwn, erm...hey guys. smtimes i mite b harsh on my words but hope there is really no argument here. i apologize if i offended any1 yo. No hard feelings. neway.. all d best folks. Peace~

This post has been edited by BHS: Jun 24 2009, 01:02 AM

ehh i thought ts dah decide masuk uni10 , were still ditching out pts hehehe x pa xpa baguih jugak.diskusi membangun.

yeah agree

they r mayb a little different in level of education between IPTA n IPTS, but in job market both shown no difference as long as u r grad in Malaysia!

so question is, is there any different between the IPTA cert and IPTS cert?

all the best!

haha sure have different lo ....
1 is ipts 1 is ipta~~~
actually quite different also in malaysia may be not but go oversea may have different

when we need to pay the fees? before register or after?

Aww thankz!
so means that mostly all the 1st-sem student are not driving there?
BHS,may I know you are which course senior?

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Added on June 24, 2009, 9:34 amok bhs and keenjoy, thx for the comment, noted! so what i can do now is wish i can get good lecturers over there, hahaha.. thanks man!

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Added on June 24, 2009, 9:35 amto enhoo and mhyug : thx for concerning all the best to both of u too!

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Added on June 24, 2009, 9:36 amto kobehua : thx to my superb kind senior:)

This post has been edited by hsienhsien: Jun 24 2009, 09:36 AM

too bad. someday after you graduate, then no job. then u look at the moon, moon laugh at you and then suddenly tnb van pass by in front of your house. well flour already become cake. how to change back ma..

This post has been edited by ryo_ken: Jun 24 2009, 10:23 AM

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[quote=BHS,Jun 24 2009, 12:43 AM]
hi...sorry late reply ur pm ya. yup i've ask some of d seniors. civil's syllabus/course is in english. honestly la, it depends on lecturers. if there is @least 1 foreign student d whole class wil be conducted using english. but of course if students don understand n require d lecturer 2use bm d lecturer wil translate in bm once in awhile. it coult be 50/50 or perhaps 60/40 vice versa.



haha... alrites.. i think i already need all the info i need.

now left choices... hate that sometimes.

Thank you so much for the help/time BHS!

hope get to know u better if i really going UTHM. (:

goodluck in ur studies!

Too bad we can't become university mates in UNITEN. All the best in UTHM!

yea lo.. haiz.. tot we can become very very best fren in uniten tim.. hahaha. all the best to u too sis!

This post has been edited by hsienhsien: Jun 24 2009, 10:29 AM

Haha yeah. Thanks and have fun in UTHM!

Have fun in UTHM? Are you kidding me? Hahaa joke rite good luck dude. UNITEN always waiting for you as you can do credit transfer if you think you made the wrong choice. cyea