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post Jun 22 2009, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(kobehua @ Jun 22 2009, 10:47 PM)
wad u mean?


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halo...seens ther lots from UNITEN here...
i wanna ask isit the rules straight in UNITEN..
coz i read the rules that the officer send to me said cant wear jeans and short pants...=P
btw i will go register at UNITEN dis saturday for foundation course... XD
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QUOTE(kennykoo66 @ Jun 22 2009, 11:16 PM)
halo...seens ther lots from UNITEN here...
i wanna ask isit the rules straight in UNITEN..
coz i read the rules that the officer send to me said cant wear jeans and short pants...=P
btw i will go register at UNITEN dis saturday for foundation course... XD
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hahaha den i get it...
isit tough study in ther??
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:53 PM

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bro view here for more uniten info
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post Jun 23 2009, 01:36 AM

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Dude,

this is from someone who was in the same situation as u... about 10 years ago, who had to choose between Uniten n ITTHO@KUiTTHO@UTHM...

i did got my UNITEN offer earlier than UPU, so i did decline UNITEN in hope for getting into UTM/UM/UPM, what i did fill in my UPU.

so, there goes my UNITEN,the offer is closed, then come my UPU.
ITTHO, wth... i never even know what ITTHO is... but in god's will i did go there... n graduated my degree.
Working for 5 year already as lecturer in one of the ipta smile.gif
thank god, tq kuittho...

if u can choose n do have the money... do go to uniten dear...

thats all i can say...

i did wasted alot of my time in ITTHO, im not saying i dont have good time there, i did enjoy there...

educationally nothing much different now days... both are good... maybe better... KUiTTHO doesnt 'bela' student like IPTS does, to generate more money... KUiTTHO for me was a place for survivors... my classes start with 70plus student, end up only about 20plus of us graduated... n im one of the survivor... KUITHHO was UTM little brother... so, kicking student out is something we see every sems.. hehehe the good part of it is... u end up with the good student only...

but the lifestyle kind of way... damn.. parit raja is a pekan koboi... damn shit....

in my days, the only thing there is a snooker shop, where i spend alot of time there smile.gif hehehe the one n only entertainment around those days...

the next happinest u can get is in batu pahat...damn..nothing much there...Summit? hahaha

those days, every weekend i was in JB... thats all i can say..
i meant EVERY WEEKEND...

Bro, pls dont waste the best time of ur life in there...like me...hahahaha

this is the best time of u life bro...

U need to mix Enjoyment n Education... thats all i can say...

i did travel far for my enjoyment...

p/s:I donno if the Tabliq people n parachute (tudung labuh) still own
the place... hahahaha Skirts not 'alloud'... hahahah

Youth=Enjoyment + Education

Education, i give uniten n uthm equal quality.... IPTA ~ IPTS thats all...

Enjoyment, dude u need to be where the chicks are... or u need to
travel far for it... hahaha... everything is happening in KL, nothing is happening in Parit Raja n Batu Pahat... hahahaha

my last word, NO LIFE in Parit Raja...

so, if ur someone who can control ur life between education n enjoyment then go to uniten....

but if ur some one who cant or we call it "kejutan budaya", better go too UTHM la ustat... hahahah

I did get "Kejutan Budaya" in Parit Raja...
(the only place in malaysia u can see guys wearing winter coat in the afternoon... yeah winter coat... hahaha)
KEJUTAN of the dullness of that place... damn... i was bored to death... no life... hahah maybe thats why i endup in the rugby team, trying to kill myself hahahah.... emm...Little Owl Rugby Team... the only thing that i really enjoy in KUiTTHO... i was really happy in the field... endup with alot of caps for the team, alot of trys... maybe one of the name in the hall of fames smile.gif

but im someone who do EDUTAINMENT smile.gif

Im not saying UTHM is not good, but the location is... thats all...
maybe now everything have change.. who know... smile.gif

n thanks alot ITTHO or KUITHHO or UTHM...it is all the same? heheh smile.gif
i did atleast spend part of my life there...
frenkly speaking not part of mylife that i like to recall,
i did have a much better memories in my education institut b4 KUITHHO...
(i only do school until darjah 6 only anyway, after that i already in a kolej smile.gif

my spm was good,agregate 11. i donno why i did end up there... sad.gif
life goes on...

emmm.. thank god... atleast today i feel better after releasing everything out... i was presured to be there smile.gif

so, do think bro...
Life only come once...

enjoy2 jugak,Tuhan jangan Lupa... smile.gif


Added on June 23, 2009, 1:51 amI hope this will help u anyway...

Good luck in ur life bro...

All the best

This post has been edited by Krools: Jun 23 2009, 01:51 AM
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wow,i know experienced people talk...but dis is a very long talk....
such a long reply.... thumbup.gif
ada pengalaman sure usefull info..coz they have gone thru it alredi...
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QUOTE(Krools @ Jun 23 2009, 01:36 AM)
Dude,

this is from someone who was in the same situation as u... about 10 years ago, who had to choose between Uniten n ITTHO@KUiTTHO@UTHM...

i did got my UNITEN offer earlier than UPU, so i did decline UNITEN in hope for getting into UTM/UM/UPM, what i did fill in my UPU.

so, there goes my UNITEN,the offer is closed, then come my UPU.
ITTHO, wth... i never even know what ITTHO is... but in god's will i did go there... n graduated my degree.
Working for 5 year already as lecturer in one of the ipta smile.gif
thank god, tq kuittho...

if u can choose n do have the money... do go to uniten dear...

thats all i can say...

i did wasted alot of my time in ITTHO, im not saying i dont have good time there, i did enjoy there...

educationally nothing much different now days... both are good... maybe better... KUiTTHO doesnt 'bela' student like IPTS does, to generate more money... KUiTTHO for me was a place for survivors... my classes start with 70plus student, end up only about 20plus of us graduated... n im one of the survivor... KUITHHO was UTM little brother... so, kicking student out is something we see every sems.. hehehe the good part of it is... u end up with the good student only...

but the lifestyle kind of way... damn.. parit raja is a pekan koboi... damn shit....

in my days, the only thing there is a snooker shop, where i spend alot of time there smile.gif hehehe the one n only entertainment around those days...

the next happinest u can get is in batu pahat...damn..nothing much there...Summit? hahaha

those days, every weekend i was in JB... thats all i can say..
i meant EVERY WEEKEND...

Bro, pls dont waste the best time of ur life in there...like me...hahahaha

this is the best time of u life bro...

U need to mix Enjoyment n Education... thats all i can say...

i did travel far for my enjoyment...

p/s:I donno if the Tabliq people n parachute (tudung labuh) still own 
      the place... hahahaha Skirts not 'alloud'... hahahah

Youth=Enjoyment + Education

Education, i give uniten n uthm equal quality.... IPTA ~ IPTS thats all...

Enjoyment, dude u need to be where the chicks are... or u need to
travel far for it... hahaha... everything is happening in KL, nothing is happening in Parit Raja n Batu Pahat... hahahaha

my last word, NO LIFE in Parit Raja...

so, if ur someone who can control ur life between education n enjoyment then go to uniten....

but if ur some one who cant or we call it "kejutan budaya", better go too UTHM la ustat... hahahah

I did get "Kejutan Budaya" in Parit Raja...
(the only place in malaysia u can see guys wearing winter coat in the afternoon... yeah winter coat... hahaha)
KEJUTAN of the dullness of that place... damn... i was bored to death... no life... hahah maybe thats why i endup in the rugby team, trying to kill myself hahahah.... emm...Little Owl Rugby Team... the only thing that i really enjoy in KUiTTHO... i was really happy in the field... endup with alot of caps for the team, alot of trys... maybe one of the name in the hall of fames smile.gif

but im someone who do EDUTAINMENT smile.gif

Im not saying UTHM is not good, but the location is... thats all...
maybe now everything have change.. who know... smile.gif

n thanks alot ITTHO or KUITHHO or UTHM...it is all the same? heheh smile.gif
i did atleast spend part of my life there...
frenkly speaking not part of mylife that i like to recall,
i did have a much better memories in my education institut b4 KUITHHO...
(i only do school until darjah 6 only anyway, after that i already in a kolej smile.gif

my spm was good,agregate 11. i donno why i did end up there... sad.gif
life goes on...

emmm.. thank god... atleast today i feel better after releasing everything out... i was presured to be there smile.gif

so, do think bro...
Life only come once...

enjoy2 jugak,Tuhan jangan Lupa... smile.gif


Added on June 23, 2009, 1:51 amI hope this will help u anyway...

Good luck in ur life bro...

All the best
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bro, thanks a lot for sharing ur experience here, appreciated! ur words enlightened me, my conclusion will out 2nite. thanks a bunch everyone! such a kind and friendly people i found in lyn.
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QUOTE(BHS @ Jun 22 2009, 04:19 PM)
hi there.. er so far i haven't get to know anyone studying this course. ur sis worry more about the course, or adapting to d new environment n stuff?? neway, i'll try to find some one frm IT field to help out ya.
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Oops, sorry, it is Information Technology course (not computer science).
We have not heard about this U before so it is rather new to us. UTHM is not in her 8 choices after all. That is the reason she's in doubt with the quality and basically everything about this U.

I hope you can provide as much information as possible. Big thanks! notworthy.gif
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Added on June 23, 2009, 2:24 pm
QUOTE(Krools @ Jun 23 2009, 01:36 AM)
Dude,

this is from someone who was in the same situation as u... about 10 years ago, who had to choose between Uniten n ITTHO@KUiTTHO@UTHM...


emmm.. thank god... atleast today i feel better after releasing everything out... i was presured to be there smile.gif

so, do think bro...
Life only come once...

enjoy2 jugak,Tuhan jangan Lupa... smile.gif


Added on June 23, 2009, 1:51 amI hope this will help u anyway...

Good luck in ur life bro...

All the best
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Dude,

this is from someone who was in the same situation as u... about 10 years ago, who had to choose between Uniten n ITTHO@KUiTTHO@UTHM...

HEY DUDE, PLEASE LA DUDE.. 10 YRS BACK...THAT'S GRANDMOTHER STORY LA DUDE


Working for 5 year already as lecturer in one of the ipta
thank god, tq kuittho...

AT THE BEGINNING U HAVE ALREADY STATED THANK GOD, TQ KUITTHO BLA BLA.. AND AT THE BACK U ARE STATING ALL NONSENSE BULLSHIT ABOUT KUITTHO.... HEY DUDE MAKE UP UR STAND MAN. GOSH~ U SURE U R A LECTURER IN 1 OF THE IPTA? WHICH IPTA U TAUGHT ANYWAY?WHAT SUBJECT? OH BOY~
i did wasted alot of my time in ITTHO, im not saying i dont have good time there, i did enjoy there...

educationally nothing much different now days... both are good... maybe better... KUiTTHO doesnt 'bela' student like IPTS does, to generate more money... KUiTTHO for me was a place for survivors... my classes start with 70plus student, end up only about 20plus of us graduated... n im one of the survivor... KUITHHO was UTM little brother... so, kicking student out is something we see every sems.. hehehe the good part of it is... u end up with the good student only...

1ST OF ALL, HOW DO U KNOW KUITTHO DOESN'T "RAISE" STUDENT LIKE IPTS DOES? WHICH IPTS U WERE FROM? N WHAT YEAR U GRADUATED FRM IPTS? IF U HAVEN'T BEEN TO IPTS WHICH IS UNIVERSITY STARNDARD INSTEAD COLLEGE, HOW DO U KNOW THE DIFFERENCE OF THE "RAISING" ISSUE. 2ND THING, WHAT'S THE X FACTOR THAT MADE THE OTHER 40+/50 STUDENTS GOT "KICKED OUT"? DISIPLINED PROBLEM? THEY THEMSELVES HAVE VIOLATED THE RULES DURING EXAMS? EVEN IN PRIVATE U IF U FAILED TO ATTEND EXAMS SITTING OVER A FEW TIMES U GET BARRED. IF U COPY ANSWERS DURING FINALS OR SKIPPED CLASSESS TOO OFTEN U GOT KICKED OUT AS WELL...SO PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR STAND HERE. ALSO PLEASE STATE THE NUMBERS OF STUDENTS GOT KICKED OUT EVERY SEM BASED ON YOUR STATISTICS.

but the lifestyle kind of way... damn.. parit raja is a pekan koboi... damn shit....

in my days, the only thing there is a snooker shop, where i spend alot of time there smile.gif hehehe the one n only entertainment around those days...

the next happinest u can get is in batu pahat...damn..nothing much there...Summit? hahaha

HOW LONG SINCE YOU WERE IN PARIT RAJA UTHM AREA HERE? CAN U NAME AT LEAST 2NEW BUILDINGS BUILT IN B.PAHAT BESIDES UR SUMMIT?


Bro, pls dont waste the best time of ur life in there...like me...hahahaha

i did travel far for my enjoyment...

p/s:I donno if the Tabliq people n parachute (tudung labuh) still own
the place... hahahaha Skirts not 'alloud'... hahahah

HAVE U EVER WONDER HOW PEOPLE CAN FIND HAPPINESS IN UTHM? WHY PEOPLE CAN MIX WELL WITH ALL RACES? AND WHY SOME PEOPLE JUST ALONE, ALWAYS COMPLAIN AND FRUSTRATED/ NOT SATISFIED ALL THE TIME? SECONDLY, I DO WEAR SKIRTS TO MY CLASS. YOUR OLDEN DAYS PERHAPS U SHOULD OPEN YOU HEART MORE, DON'T STERSS TOO MUCH IF U CAN'T ADAPT WELL, U SHOULD GIVE YOURSELF TO BE HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING, N I'LL CALL THAT CHARACTER BUILDING. U DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL FAR FOR REAL ENJOYMENT. PERHAPS THE ROUTE U TRAVEL TOO FAR AND D SATISFACTION JUST TEMPORARY. U SHOULD CREATE YOUR REAL ENJOYMENT DURING YOUR OLDEN TIMES IF U UNDERSTAND WAT IS THE MEANING OF JOY. N NOT ALL JOYFUL PEOPLE FRM UTHM ARE GEEKS.
Youth=Enjoyment + Education

... everything is happening in KL, nothing is happening in Parit Raja n Batu Pahat... hahahaha
Education, i give uniten n uthm equal quality.... IPTA ~ IPTS thats all...

Enjoyment, dude u need to be where the chicks are... or u need to
travel far for it... hahaha
my last word, NO LIFE in Parit Raja...

so, if ur someone who can control ur life between education n enjoyment then go to uniten....

but if ur some one who cant or we call it "kejutan budaya", better go too UTHM la ustat... hahahah

I did get "Kejutan Budaya" in Parit Raja...
(the only place in malaysia u can see guys wearing winter coat in the afternoon... yeah winter coat... hahaha)
KEJUTAN of the dullness of that place... damn... i was bored to death... no life... hahah maybe thats why i endup in the rugby team, trying to kill myself hahahah.... emm...Little Owl Rugby Team... the only thing that i really enjoy in KUiTTHO... i was really happy in the field... endup with alot of caps for the team, alot of trys... maybe one of the name in the hall of fames smile.gif

HEY RACIST, OOPS I MEAN HEY BRO, IN UTHM I LEARN A LOT AND THIS INCLUDE RESPECTING ONE ANOTHER'S CULTURE, BE IT MALAYS, INDIANS, CHINESE, BUMIS, FOREIGNERS.. SPENDING TIME WITH THEM I PERSONALLY KNOW MORE ABOUT THEIR CUSTOM. HMM..U DON'T SEEM TO HAVE A HAPPY LIFE IN IPTA. N WHY U STILL WANT TO BE A LECTURER IN IPTA THEN AFTER U GRAD SINCE U HAVE "CULTURE SHOCK".

Im not saying UTHM is not good, but the location is... thats all...

n thanks alot ITTHO or KUITHHO or UTHM...it is all the same? heheh
i did atleast spend part of my life there...
frenkly speaking not part of mylife that i like to recall,


emmm.. thank god... atleast today i feel better after releasing everything out... i was presured to be there

WELL DUDE, U CAN ALWAYS RELEASE YOUR "SORROW" WHEN U LECTURE IN IPTA MAN. WHY WAIT FOR AFTER 10 YEARS THEN ONLY COME TO THIS FORUM?
THERE ARE LOTS OF CONTRADICTIONS HERE.


This post has been edited by BHS: Jun 26 2009, 02:14 AM
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i'm registering uniten's postgrad MEM program july intake...hehe
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HEY..

I heard from ppl that first 2 years in Civil engineering is using 50/50 eng&bm medium in teaching?

Is it true?

seniors who still studying in Civil course.. would appreaciate ur comments.. (:
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Hi there... hahahah

anyway im just giving out my what i think, i never said that im right n ur wrong...
this is the sorty of my experience... n i dont want someone else to be in the same position again...
Learn from ur history dear...

here we go... the UTHM fanatics... hahaha
Good, atleast we have someone who really love UTHM.. good for u... sure Deans List ni...

yes,my experience was 10 years back... but last year i was back at ur lovaly UTHM... yes.. there is alot of progress happening there... but if u compare it with the locataion where uniten is 20 years back... Parit Raja is not even near la dear... hahah

my main point is the location... i was stress with the surrounding hahaha....

Thank god n KUiTTHO ive survive the ordeal.. hahaha...
but its still sucks, it will remain something that i want to change if i can turn back time... smile.gif

hahaha really emotional one we have here...
dear, how long has u been living? open wide ur eye la...
from my experience n frens experience...
my class did started with 70plus student n only 20plus studend graduated.. go n check with the office if u trust me...
most of them bcos of the CGPA...
IPTS, i do still have fren same age as me.. STILL studying... still extending sems... hahaha so u do the math la...

u can ask anyone here... its a fact... IPTA doesnt 'Bela' student... only the strongest survive...
yet IPTS, they do want their student to extend.... dont kick them.. keep them in here n generate money hahaha...
to jaga status lagi....

anyway i was the batch, who Dr Zarar did failed the whole class, i meant here.. no one passed...but after the senate meeting, only two passed, just bcos if this 2 had fail.. they will be expell.... search ur history dear...

this had happened in KUITHHO...

i can name u... a lot of new building in Batu Pahat, ive been there last year... i was there on a gathering...
yes, there is alot of new building n shoping center... but, its still seem like no life la dear hahahah....
on weekend ull endup doing nothing.. but thats good someone like u.. book worm... hahaha

hahaha what ever la sister... u n ur UTHM... yes i do, understand what ur talking about.. n did blend in... u have make use what ever u had n look at it on the positive side of view...

but this guy can choose la sister... n thats the main purpose why he start this tread...

im not racist la.. hahaaha i was being sarcastic la... i was TERKEJUT dengan Kemajuan Parit Raja...
all those multi racial thing u said, u can have it anyway in malaysia la.. this is malaysia...

yes,maybe there are lots of contradiction... like ive said.. u have to be happy with what u have...choose to see what u want to see... make it wonderful... maybe if KUiTTHO was somewhere else i cant make it wonderful n the greatest experience of my life...
but at the end of the day.. u know what u really feel...

but i didnt make up my story, it is my real life experience n maybe im the only one who feel like this...

so, good luck with u life dear...
n anyway this is from my side of view... "suka hati i la nak kata apa pun.." hahaha

ive been a student in IPTA then ive done my Master in IPTS...
have been working in IPTS, then IPTA...
so atleast i know inside out of the IPT s... hehe
i dont want to tell more....

but i wish u all the best... n good luck with ur life...

ps:/ i was the batch who was in the Hostel BLock H>Taman Bintang shoplot turn into a hostel with plywood wall
hahah 24/7 night... no sun....


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Added on June 23, 2009, 4:48 pm
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what ever u do or choose...

good luck.. n all the best...

go n live the best time of ur life to the fullest...

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Added on June 23, 2009, 6:29 pmmay i know what is the ratio of male n female?

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QUOTE(Krools @ Jun 23 2009, 04:35 PM)
Hi there... hahahah

anyway im just giving out my what i think, i never said that im right n ur wrong...
this is the sorty of my experience... n i dont want someone else to be in the same position again...
Learn from ur history dear...

here we go... the UTHM fanatics... hahaha
Good, atleast we have someone who really love UTHM.. good for u... sure Deans List ni...


but i wish u all the best... n good luck with ur life...

ps:/ i was the batch who was in the Hostel BLock H>Taman Bintang shoplot turn into a hostel with plywood wall  
      hahah 24/7 night... no sun....
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i believe long n short distance education both hv their advantages. parit raja to selangor 4u is damn far ...ok... no comment. perhaps ya...u n i hv diff stands n views

ur say :"from my experience n frens experience...
my class did started with 70plus student n only 20plus studend graduated.. go n check with the office if u trust me...
most of them bcos of the CGPA...
IPTS, i do still have fren same age as me.. STILL studying... still extending sems... hahaha so u do the math la..."
if that is so, IPTA hv their own way of "handling" d students n through this it can train them to work hard n persevere. 2much "freedom" or less "controlling" over students in private U for those kept failing in exams would just let them go ahead with their poor results next time next time n next time. so u just can't blame on IPTA for being "strict".
ur say :"u can ask anyone here... its a fact... IPTA doesnt 'Bela' student... only the strongest survive..."
d strong ones will survive but IPTA do "raise" ppl potentially. Through assignments, psm (bachelor deg project), involvement in cocuricullar..

ur say :"yes, there is alot of new building n shoping center... but, its still seem like no life la dear hahahah....
on weekend ull endup doing nothing.. but thats good someone like u.. book worm... hahaha"
[color=red]hav u ever heard of work hard play hard? of course it depends on how u "play". also, wat makes u think work hard play hard OR IPTA lover equals to bookworm? perhaps u need2 accept there are all rounded people around. btwn, my sat is a great1. smtimes i go2 frens' hse smtimes jz hangout. my sun? oh i lov sun d best as each sun i'll go out n relax. perhaps u r d1 need2 open ur mind i guess...


ur say :"im not racist la.. hahaaha i was being sarcastic la... i was TERKEJUT dengan Kemajuan Parit Raja...
all those multi racial thing u said, u can have it anyway in malaysia la.. this is malaysia..."
oh u realize this is Malaysia? oh good..thank God u realize it's 1 Malaysia

n yes i view all things positively. n so do i wish all d juniors here in this tread to be positive n learn, not 2be mislead by d negative mindset.

n wish u all d best in ur journey to success too. Thank u

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up to u bro.
if there is a very good Unvrsty, but if student not stdy...always waste they time... xgune jgk.. hu2
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lol....... dun quarrel on this lol.......
ipts and ipta have its own policy we cant comment that....

BHS, your view is right coz uthm hv its own advantage
krools, u also right coz that is your feeling coz i also have that kind of feeling like urs 4 year ago.... but that is depend ppl, u like it then study there, dun like it then dun study there lo.... no ppl will say anything, just yourself know wat you want to archieve...
stop on talking that, just show positive comment for both the university and let the TS choose himself

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