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iVW
post May 20 2012, 12:38 PM

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love Virtual Box so much !! It's running smoothly in my MBA smile.gif Just use it for online stock trading (IE required :|)
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post May 20 2012, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Joelles @ May 19 2012, 03:19 PM)
I found that we can't install Windows to the bootcamp partition without an external SuperDrive (could this only applies to MacOSX Lion?), normal external optical drive just don't work. Whenever booting up with the external windows DVD installer will resulted a black screen with a blinking cursor. For Mac Mini and MacBook Air which rely on an external optical drive will need to create a USB thumb window installer from the Boot Camp Assistant in order to install the Window OS. We can also download the boot camp drivers through the Boot Camp Assistant utility and burn into a Boot Camp driver installer CD or DVD.
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Thanks for the info.
Just an additional finding to add on on top, the boot camp drivers can be downloaded into the same USB thumb drive which saved the windows installer.
You don't require an additional CD/DVD.

Most simply: you only require:

1) Mac OS X Lion with Boot Camp Assistant (to automate the partitioning, drive space allocation & formatting, OS and driver installation)
2) USB thumb drive (to save the extracted contents of Windows OS ISO file & Windows drivers downloaded by Boot Camp Assistant utility)
3) Windows ISO file (tested with Windows 7 only, not sure if XP/Vista can be installed on boot camp though)

Time it takes to complete the installation process, estimated around 1 to 1.5 hours.
Most of the time used in during formatting of the partition. The actual installation itself is quick.

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post May 20 2012, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(seedohbehlei @ May 20 2012, 04:41 PM)
Thanks for the info.
Just an additional finding to add on on top, the boot camp drivers can be downloaded into the same USB thumb drive which saved the windows installer.
You don't require an additional CD/DVD.

Most simply: you only require:

1) Mac OS X Lion with Boot Camp Assistant (to automate the partitioning, drive space allocation & formatting, OS and driver installation)
2) USB thumb drive (to save the extracted contents of Windows OS ISO file & Windows drivers downloaded by Boot Camp Assistant utility)
3) Windows ISO file (tested with Windows 7 only, not sure if XP/Vista can be installed on boot camp though)

Time it takes to complete the installation process, estimated around 1 to 1.5 hours.
Most of the time used in during formatting of the partition. The actual installation itself is quick.
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Yes, the Boot Camp driver can be saved into the USB thumb which contains the window ISO file as well. My Mac mini only took less than half an hour for the window 7 installation, maybe my Mac Mini comes with 8GB ram. Since the formatting took so long time, we can might as well format the boot camp partition again with the Disk Utility by selecting NTFS (compressed) format before the Window Installation, then the Window installation process can be perform without formatting the partition.
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mine installation thru boot camp ran flawlessly on my MBA 11 within 15 minutes. But it will still need driver then boot into windows 7.

I personally do not like the time taken to boot in windows 7 (around 2 minutes to boot up completely) therefore i choose virtual box. Free and fast in running simultaneously and it took less than 1 minute to boot. Sweet smile.gif
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post May 21 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(iVW @ May 20 2012, 10:42 PM)
mine installation thru boot camp ran flawlessly on my MBA 11 within 15 minutes. But it will still need driver then boot into windows 7.

I personally do not like the time taken to boot in windows 7 (around 2 minutes to boot up completely) therefore i choose virtual box. Free and fast in running simultaneously and it took less than 1 minute to boot. Sweet smile.gif
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You mean the Installation+Formating+Installing driver? I can understand the whole process will take merely an hour.
I have tried timing the booting time for the Boot Camp Window 7 on my mini, it took around 65 seconds to boot up completely. Not yet try on Virtual Box before, maybe will give it a try or I should purchase Parrarel Desktop by running in Coherence Mode.
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post May 22 2012, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Joelles @ May 21 2012, 12:42 AM)
You mean the Installation+Formating+Installing driver? I can understand the whole process will take merely an hour.
I have tried timing the booting time for the Boot Camp Window 7 on my mini, it took around 65 seconds to boot up completely. Not yet try on Virtual Box before, maybe will give it a try or I should purchase Parrarel Desktop by running in Coherence Mode.
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yea 15-20 minutes for the installation. Virtual Box for me is better than BootCamp. Never tried on ANY Parallel Desktop before
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QUOTE(iVW @ May 22 2012, 02:52 PM)
yea 15-20 minutes for the installation. Virtual Box for me is better than BootCamp. Never tried on ANY Parallel Desktop before
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Virtual Box is better than BootCamp? Afaik, Boot Camp are running natively so for performance wise Boot Camp are definately the winner. Parallel Desktop are much improve with the latest version preferable you have more Ram to applies on it. It have the option to transfer the windows os directly from a PC, install a new window os or clone from the Boot Camp to run as mirroring and the best part it runs in Coherence mode. Maybe I am expecting too much on the Window performance which running on a Mac but I am satisfied with the performance of the Boot Camp or Parallel Desktop so far.
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QUOTE(Joelles @ May 22 2012, 03:33 PM)
Virtual Box is better than BootCamp? Afaik, Boot Camp are running natively so for performance wise Boot Camp are definately the winner. Parallel Desktop are much improve with the latest version preferable you have more Ram to applies on it. It have the option to transfer the windows os directly from a PC, install a new window os or clone from the Boot Camp to run as mirroring and the best part it runs in Coherence mode. Maybe I am expecting too much on the Window performance which running on a Mac but I am satisfied with the performance of the Boot Camp or Parallel Desktop so far.
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BootCamp has got idle time when booting to Windows 7 while the underscore has been blinked for almost 1 minute before it starting to boot. I have no knowledge if other face the same situation like mine.
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QUOTE(iVW @ May 22 2012, 10:52 PM)
BootCamp has got idle time when booting to Windows 7 while the underscore has been blinked for almost 1 minute before it starting to boot. I have no knowledge if other face the same situation like mine.
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Well, as for the underscore you experienced doesn't happen to my Mac Mini 2011. Booting from Boot Camp are just like normal PC and it only took me 65 seconds to boot completely into the Window Desktop. By the way I am running on Window 7 Ultimate 32 bit(since some of my connected device not supporting 64 bit).
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ May 18 2012, 08:51 PM)
no problem, was ok. like i said, just need to off mouse acceleration
Ok, bootcamp n play diablo 3.

here're my MBA 13" (4GB RAM) on Windows 7 Ultimate x86 (i dont have the 64bit copy) settings:

resolution: 1280x800 (widescreen)
texture quality: low
shadow: low
physics: high
clutter density: medium
AA: off
Low FX: off

playing experience generally good and smooth. fps on land / town around 20. in dungeon / underground around 30. played with 3 friends, all 4 players and many enemies. lag abit when lots of crowd but very much playable.
cutscenes fps crazy high at 140+

overall i would say ok  smile.gif

so if anyone wants to play diablo 3 on MBA 13", hope this can serve as reference.
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Thanks so much for this information smile.gif
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post May 24 2012, 11:49 PM

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hi all, i'm having some doubts regarding boot camp,
when boot camp assistant ask me to insert cd or USB for the installation, i accidentally inserted the window 7 OS cd, after the installation done, i can't access wireless and other hardware on window. How i'm gonna fix this problem? should i delete the boot camp and run it again?
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QUOTE(FishMarket @ May 24 2012, 11:49 PM)
hi all, i'm having some doubts regarding boot camp,
when boot camp assistant ask me to insert cd or USB for the installation, i accidentally inserted the window 7 OS cd, after the installation done, i can't access wireless and other hardware on window. How i'm gonna fix this problem? should i delete the boot camp and run it again?
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You need to install the Boot Camp Drivers to your Window 7 after the installation, to download the Boot Camp Driver just launch the Boot Camp Assistant on your Mac and there's an option to download the drivers. After downloading you may either save it to a thumb drive or burn a Boot Camp driver DVD to use it for the Window 7 driver installation.
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QUOTE(FishMarket @ May 24 2012, 11:49 PM)
hi all, i'm having some doubts regarding boot camp,
when boot camp assistant ask me to insert cd or USB for the installation, i accidentally inserted the window 7 OS cd, after the installation done, i can't access wireless and other hardware on window. How i'm gonna fix this problem? should i delete the boot camp and run it again?
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If you still have the Support Software that you download prior of Window 7 installation from boot camp.

You can use the software to install all driver needed.
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post Jun 6 2012, 11:43 AM

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i'm using VMware Fusion. Everything is good. smile.gif Free Version though.
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post Jun 7 2012, 12:52 PM

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PD7 bundle from MacUpdate is on again:

http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/06/macupdate-bu...mac-apps-49-99/
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QUOTE(DeLarafi @ Apr 13 2012, 10:00 PM)
Yeap.. i tried using VMware and PD7...

VMware... with winXP... playing LoL / Skyrim... LoL goes okay.. but somtime crash... SKyrim.. always crash...

Parallel 7...  Win XP..both game LoL /  Skyrim and all steam games such as Dota 2.. Cs Source.. Portal and Portal 2.. all running Ultra setting..  All running smooth... no problem whatsoever...

btw.. im using MBP 15" i7 2.2 with 8GB ram... radeon with 512 ram btw...
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Hey, i've a macbook pro 15' high end 2011.
mind telling me your parallel settings?
hw much ram should u set for parallel, also the graphics memory, and etc...

thanks.
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hello there, i'm considerably a new user to Macbook air since March this year and i'm thinking of installing windows as 2nd options (in addition to OSX).

I'm new to MAC and find it difficult to run it due to many incompatibility than windows software.

I've tried to find the tutorial for installing the windows on MAC and for most reasons, i cant hardly understand the tutorial given, even after reading this thread..

Really appreciate if any of you could help me installing windows on MAC and pls quote your price..

I like Macbook Air and OSX but a windows option will make it even better..i'm running on 128gb SSD.

Thanks

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 7 2012, 12:52 PM)
Thanks for the update, how many time can I download the app by the way? If let say I purchased it?

MacUpdate not same with appstore right? If appstore can Download infinite, am I correct?
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QUOTE(zack2381 @ Jun 12 2012, 09:13 AM)
hello there, i'm considerably a new user to Macbook air since March this year and i'm thinking of installing windows as 2nd options (in addition to OSX).

I'm new to MAC and find it difficult to run it due to many incompatibility than windows software.

I've tried to find the tutorial for installing the windows on MAC and for most reasons, i cant hardly understand the tutorial given, even after reading this thread..

Really appreciate if any of you could help me installing windows on MAC and pls quote your price..

I like Macbook Air and OSX but a windows option will make it even better..i'm running on 128gb SSD.

Thanks
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You can always use Parallel Desktop. Means you can have both OS at the same time. Can save your SSD Space some more. If boot camp at least needs 20 GB i think for 1 partition.

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post Jun 12 2012, 08:00 PM

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Which setting is the best for parallels ? Install as pc or install as mac?
First time using PD7
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QUOTE(Reventon @ Jun 12 2012, 08:00 PM)
Which setting is the best for parallels ? Install as pc or install as mac?
First time using PD7
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I install as Mac, it's something new. All Windows software will look like Mac.. drool.gif

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