do anyone provide bootcamp service? i want to install windows xp in macbook air 64gb..
MacOS X Parallels Desktop, VMware Fusion & Bootcamp, Discussion MultiOS digest guide MAC Only
MacOS X Parallels Desktop, VMware Fusion & Bootcamp, Discussion MultiOS digest guide MAC Only
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Mar 29 2012, 01:05 AM
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do anyone provide bootcamp service? i want to install windows xp in macbook air 64gb..
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Apr 2 2012, 07:31 AM
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373 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Nilai, N9 |
I not sure if Mac OS Lion BootCamp allow you to install Windows XP.
I've tried myself and found no way that's working. Any sifu's here can help? |
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Apr 13 2012, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(izact @ Feb 17 2012, 04:31 PM) Has anyone ever run games on PD7? Some said that PD7 can run games smooth and faster than previous version. for me..it never prove the fact yet. i hv a mbp13 2010 running on 4GB RAM and 120G ssd. since i used ssd, i removed bootcamp and PD5 and switched to PD7. games are running sluggishly when i run it on PD7. Is it bcoz the allocated RAM for PD7 only recommended for 1G? Or do i need to upgrade the RAM so that the game can run smooth? Hope u guys can advice..i've finished my studies..now i need to fill up something b4 i get to sleep..hehe Yeap.. i tried using VMware and PD7...VMware... with winXP... playing LoL / Skyrim... LoL goes okay.. but somtime crash... SKyrim.. always crash... Parallel 7... Win XP..both game LoL / Skyrim and all steam games such as Dota 2.. Cs Source.. Portal and Portal 2.. all running Ultra setting.. All running smooth... no problem whatsoever... btw.. im using MBP 15" i7 2.2 with 8GB ram... radeon with 512 ram btw... |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(DeLarafi @ Apr 13 2012, 10:00 PM) Yeap.. i tried using VMware and PD7... I should have bought MBP with Graphic Card VMware... with winXP... playing LoL / Skyrim... LoL goes okay.. but somtime crash... SKyrim.. always crash... Parallel 7... Win XP..both game LoL / Skyrim and all steam games such as Dota 2.. Cs Source.. Portal and Portal 2.. all running Ultra setting.. All running smooth... no problem whatsoever... btw.. im using MBP 15" i7 2.2 with 8GB ram... radeon with 512 ram btw... Added on April 20, 2012, 10:37 amI'm using PD7 trying playing Dota. Am having trouble, game worked smoothly but my mouse movement very lag. Only mouse having problem now.. This post has been edited by krayz_underground: Apr 20 2012, 10:37 AM |
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Apr 20 2012, 04:51 PM
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Bootcamp © hd space = 19G
Mackintosh (d) hd space = 36G on my MBA11". If i would like to put more space for my bootcamp to 40G and reduced macintosh accordingly, would it be a big process ? |
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Apr 24 2012, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(krayz_underground @ Apr 19 2012, 08:49 PM) I should have bought MBP with Graphic Card i had no issues playing dota with PD7.Added on April 20, 2012, 10:37 amI'm using PD7 trying playing Dota. Am having trouble, game worked smoothly but my mouse movement very lag. Only mouse having problem now.. Instead of mouse movement lag, it was jumping around the screen. It's a normal thing due to the mouse movement acceleration feature. i permanently disabled it with some command u can google up online. |
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Apr 24 2012, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Apr 24 2012, 04:23 PM) i had no issues playing dota with PD7. I would appreciate your help in explaining more about the mouse. If I disable Aero, will it improve the mouse?Instead of mouse movement lag, it was jumping around the screen. It's a normal thing due to the mouse movement acceleration feature. i permanently disabled it with some command u can google up online. |
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Apr 28 2012, 01:17 AM
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Playing Dota 2... full setting.. all smooth..
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Apr 28 2012, 05:41 PM
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Will bootcamp cause lag? i heard some ppl said it would.
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May 2 2012, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(DeLarafi @ Apr 13 2012, 10:00 PM) Yeap.. i tried using VMware and PD7... Do you have any experience using virtualbox as well?VMware... with winXP... playing LoL / Skyrim... LoL goes okay.. but somtime crash... SKyrim.. always crash... Parallel 7... Win XP..both game LoL / Skyrim and all steam games such as Dota 2.. Cs Source.. Portal and Portal 2.. all running Ultra setting.. All running smooth... no problem whatsoever... btw.. im using MBP 15" i7 2.2 with 8GB ram... radeon with 512 ram btw... |
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May 2 2012, 01:59 AM
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May 2 2012, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(tashfinsheikh @ May 2 2012, 01:59 AM) I would like to know this as well bootcamp in your case, will deliver better performance, since it has the native drivers.so far I tried all 3 of them and by far Bootcamp gives the best performance Any opinions on how it would compare with virtualbox? planning to put windows in virtualbox and use for 3d jobs until i can find the mac software for the job. |
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May 6 2012, 04:13 PM
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In the end I installed Window 7 Ultimate 64-bit through Boot Camp.
Playing Dota smoothly now. |
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May 16 2012, 06:30 PM
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although i have PD7 and able to run dota smoothly with it, but i have just bootcamped my MBA ready for Diablo 3.
Playing D3 natively on OSX during the open beta weekend gave a very low fps between 10-20. "playable" but not enjoyable experience. so after reading many forums online, decided to bootcamp. now just waiting for my D3 to run on it. will update here on how it runs. |
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May 17 2012, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ May 16 2012, 06:30 PM) although i have PD7 and able to run dota smoothly with it, but i have just bootcamped my MBA ready for Diablo 3. Your mouse worked fine when playing Dota on PD7? Playing D3 natively on OSX during the open beta weekend gave a very low fps between 10-20. "playable" but not enjoyable experience. so after reading many forums online, decided to bootcamp. now just waiting for my D3 to run on it. will update here on how it runs. |
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May 18 2012, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(krayz_underground @ May 17 2012, 11:27 AM) no problem, was ok. like i said, just need to off mouse accelerationOk, bootcamp n play diablo 3. here're my MBA 13" (4GB RAM) on Windows 7 Ultimate x86 (i dont have the 64bit copy) settings: resolution: 1280x800 (widescreen) texture quality: low shadow: low physics: high clutter density: medium AA: off Low FX: off playing experience generally good and smooth. fps on land / town around 20. in dungeon / underground around 30. played with 3 friends, all 4 players and many enemies. lag abit when lots of crowd but very much playable. cutscenes fps crazy high at 140+ overall i would say ok so if anyone wants to play diablo 3 on MBA 13", hope this can serve as reference. |
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May 18 2012, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ May 18 2012, 08:51 PM) no problem, was ok. like i said, just need to off mouse acceleration seriously I google'd around already. I can't find how to turn off the mouse acceleration in PD7.Ok, bootcamp n play diablo 3. here're my MBA 13" (4GB RAM) on Windows 7 Ultimate x86 (i dont have the 64bit copy) settings: resolution: 1280x800 (widescreen) texture quality: low shadow: low physics: high clutter density: medium AA: off Low FX: off playing experience generally good and smooth. fps on land / town around 20. in dungeon / underground around 30. played with 3 friends, all 4 players and many enemies. lag abit when lots of crowd but very much playable. cutscenes fps crazy high at 140+ overall i would say ok so if anyone wants to play diablo 3 on MBA 13", hope this can serve as reference. Please I appreciate your help. |
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May 19 2012, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(krayz_underground @ May 18 2012, 08:58 PM) seriously I google'd around already. I can't find how to turn off the mouse acceleration in PD7. HerePlease I appreciate your help. http://osxdaily.com/2010/06/02/kill-os-x-m...e-command-line/ |
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May 19 2012, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(ahblu3 @ Mar 28 2009, 10:50 PM) Parallels Desktop 4.0 Very strong and valid points. ![]() http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/ Intro: The world’s No. 1 selling Mac system utility, it has more than 1.5 million users worldwide. Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac provides the complete suite of essentials to run Windows on Mac the easy, fast and powerful way. Parallels has led the industry with ground-breaking innovation since 2005 and Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac continues leaving others behind to play catch-up. With all sorts of industry awards, I suppose Parallels Desktop deserves it. MacWorld claimed that Parallels Desktop is currently the best solution for running Windows, Linux, or any of many other operating systems alongside OS X. Expect me to be more or less bias to PD, because I'm a user of it and not BC and VMw. LOL! Features: http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/features/ PD categorizes all its features under 3 groups: Easy, Fast, and Powerful. Easy! • Install Windows in just 3 steps. (It really does, even a primary school kid who can read on-screen instruction properly can do it) • Move your entire Windows system to your Mac. • Run Windows programs right on the Mac desktop. (With the new Coherence mode) • Open Windows files with Mac apps and Mac files with Windows apps. • Remotely control your virtual machine with select voice commands. • Instantly share files and folders between Windows and Mac OS X. (My Documents on Windows = User Document on Mac OS X) • Easily access favorite USB devices in Windows and Mac OS X. Fast! • Maximize speed as you move between Windows and Mac OS X. • Run 3D games and graphics apps at blazing speeds with up to 256 MB video memory. • Drive smoother 3D and video performance with experimental DirectX 9.0, DirectX Model Shaders 2.0 and OpenGL 2.0 support. • Handle heavy workloads smoothly with 8-way CPU support and 8 GB RAM. • Run 32- and 64-bit guest OSs with maximum performance. • Enhance media application performance with Intel® Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE4) support. Powerful! • Get longer battery life from your Mac with PowerSaver. • Schedule automatic snapshots for no-hassle backup. • Gracefully shut down Windows to protect files, folders and apps. • Preview Windows 7 and Mac OS X Snow Leopard as guests on your Mac. • Secure Windows with Parallels Internet Security powered by Kaspersky. Virtual OS Installation guide: 3-steps: — Select which Windows operating system you want to install. — Enter your name and Windows activation key. — Click finish — and let the Installation Assistant do the rest! Just follow the on screen instruction step by step and you won't mess things up. You can choose to install your virtual OS from CD or from any disk image file located in you HDD. I'm currently running Windows XP SP3, just for 1 purpose only: to run XunLei torrent client. I know there are a lot torrent client for Mac but I somehow still find that XunLei is the fastest. Also tried installing Windows 7 Beta before but delete it after a few hours. Reason? Coz Windows 7 Beta consume more space and I don't see why I need it. No need to mention Vista. You can also choose to run the Virtual OS which is installed in Bootcamp partition. Get all detail guides here: http://www.parallels.com/support/desktop/documentation/ Personal experience: - I like the Coherence Mode very much, this is the main feature which attracts me to use PD. LOL. With Coherence mode, you can access Start menu and windows app on the Mac Dock. The small taskbar icon of WinXP on bottom right corner (beside the clock) will be shown on top right corner of OS X (also beside the clock). You can also resize any apps windows just like OSX. - Drag and Drop files among Mac OS X and virtual OS make life easier. (eg. I download torrent files using Safari, and then drag and drop the torrent files to XunLei in Windows XP and the download job starts immediately.) - You can set the resource distribution for the virtual machine. I'm currently running the XP with 1 CPU core, 512MB RAM, and 128MB video memory. Everything is just more than enough as I'm not doing big business on XP. For gamers who need to run games on windows, maybe Bootcamp is more suitable. - Transition effect for different view mode is simply graceful (like Steve Jobs's famous "Boom") - Well the main point of using PD to run Virtual OS is to avoid rebooting and you can run more than 1 OS side-by-side. - So I could say the only disadvantage/drawback of PD is you can't run your Windows with full native resource. Logic and make sense. As your Mac power will be shared among the OSes. Added on March 28, 2009, 11:40 pmWMware Fusion 2.0 ![]() http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/overview.html Intro: Ok, I suppose before PD 4.0, WMw is on the upper hand in terms of performance. But as PD improves, WMw seems to lost its stand. Both selling at a retail price of USD79.90 (but there are a lot of discount offered by various sites like amazon). WMw claims to be built from the ground up for the Mac with a Cocoa-native user interface, VMware Fusion has the Mac-native features users expect, and with an obsessive eye towards being a “good Mac citizen” VMware Fusion is the easiest, most Mac-friendly way to run Windows on the Mac. A Mac-first user interface ensures that users get the features they expect, like customizable tool bars, searchable Apple help, Boot Camp support, dock notification integration, and more. WMw also claimed that they have 4 million users worldwide. Features: Well I should say nearly all features of WMw 2.0 are provided by PD 4.0 too. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/features.html The following is a summarize list of the features: -Unity View (like Coherence mode of PD) -Data Sharing -Application Sharing -3D and High Definition Video Acceleration -USB Device Support -Multiple Display Support -Seamless Keyboard Mapping -Driverless Printing -Multiple Snapshots -AutoProtect Automatic Snapshots -Embedded Antivirus and Antispyware Protection -Completely Redone User Interface -Mac OS X Leopard Integration -Boot Camp Support -Tools for Switching -Broad Operating System Support -Multiple CPU Virtual Machines -VMrun -Large RAM Support -Virtual Appliances Virtual OS Installation guide: Again, it seems that setup for virtual machine is just as simple as ABC 123, like PD. Anyway, all Mac Apps are easy to use, don't they? Get all sorts of detail guides here, with tutorials and demo videos. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/resources/ Personal experience: - N/A Added on March 28, 2009, 11:42 pmHead-to-Head Comparison of PD 4.0 and WMwF 2.0 The following is a perfect article by MacTech regarding the comparison of PD and WMw. http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vo...arks/index.html Be sure you read this interesting 5 pages report. Digest version by AppleInsider: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/03...many_tests.html So the overall results are: PD 4.0 14% faster running 32-bit XP and Vista on a single virtual processor 20% faster running 32-bit Vista on two virtual processors 15% faster running 64-bit Vista on two virtual processors VMw Fusion 2.0 10% fasster running 32-bit XP on two virtual processors ![]() Just to note: Running 32-bit XP with single core processor is the most common Virtual Machine set up. Check out the following link for a Features comparison made by PD, click 'Compare Features' http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/why-switch/ Added on March 28, 2009, 11:45 pmBootcamp ![]() http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html Intro: I suppose the worst nightmare for Bill Gates and his Microsoft team is nothing more than Mac moving to Intel chip and the ability to run Windows on Mac, thus gaining strong momentum on market growth as Vista continue to slump. By introducing the Bootcamp beta during OS X Tiger days, I still remember my brother, who owns the 1st batch of Black intel MacBook with only Core Duo processor, is so delighted to get WinXP on his machine thru Bootcamp Beta. So with Bootcamp bundle on every OSX Leopard, it lets you run your favorite Windows on your Mac with full native resource, and on a individual partition. "Windows applications have full access to multiple processors and multiple cores, accelerated 3D graphics, and high-speed connections like USB, FireWire, Wi-Fi, and Gigabit Ethernet." Features: Am I suppose to repeat myself? LOL -Boot Camp supports the most popular 32-bit releases of Windows XP and Windows Vista. When you use either operating system on your Mac, your Windows applications will run at native speed. OS(Not virtual heh) installation guide: http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/ Also 3 steps: Step 1: Run Boot Camp Assistant. Boot Camp Assistant helps you with these tasks: -Creating a partition for Windows Boot Camp Assistant creates a partition for Windows on your computer’s startup or other internal disk. -Starting the Windows installation Boot Camp Assistant gets you started with the Windows installation. Step 2: Install Windows. Step 3: Install the Boot Camp drivers on your Windows volume. As for the drivers, it is included in the Leopard DVD. iSight, Apple Remote, trackpad, specific keyboard keys, keyboard backlighting, etc can be supported when you run Windows thru Bootcamp. Hold down the Option key when you switch on your mac to choose OSX or Windows partition to run on. Personal experience: Ok, even though I never use Bootcamp, but do heard some comments from other users like my brother and friends. - You can access the Windows Partition when you are running OSX but not in the other way, ie. you cannot access OSX partition when you run Windows. I suppose this is due to the different file systems. - Running Windows on Bootcamp seems to consume more HDD space then running the same Windows as a virtual machine by PD or WMw. I think this it due to the extra partition and system files take up the extra space. - Of course, the biggest drawback of Bootcamp is that you cannot run OSX and Windows simultaneously, no side-by-side. You need to reboot to switch to another OS. I have not used Parallels yet, so I don't know how it is to run both OSes on the same desktop. But I do not find the necessity to have to use both OSes at any single point of time. Back in the good ol' days of dual-boot capable Windows, I was just fine with running a single Windows instance in any given time, be it Windows 98 (I needed to run some really old software) or Windows XP. Boot Camp provided me with what I needed, one OS at a time. And yes, Windows 7 ran perfectly smooth as if it's been designed for Apple machines in the first place. Gone are the days whereby pro-Windows users could hold a valid argument against Mac users running Windows in terms of OS performance. It is now Apple to Apple comparison. In conclusion, the computing world is no longer segregated between Mac OS vs. Windows users. It is now Apple vs. The Rest Of The World. What Windows could do, Mac OS could do. But what Mac OS could do, not necessarily Windows could do. |
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May 19 2012, 03:19 PM
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I found that we can't install Windows to the bootcamp partition without an external SuperDrive (could this only applies to MacOSX Lion?), normal external optical drive just don't work. Whenever booting up with the external windows DVD installer will resulted a black screen with a blinking cursor. For Mac Mini and MacBook Air which rely on an external optical drive will need to create a USB thumb window installer from the Boot Camp Assistant in order to install the Window OS. We can also download the boot camp drivers through the Boot Camp Assistant utility and burn into a Boot Camp driver installer CD or DVD.
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