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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V23!, The Orange Legion

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Kul | Mo0
post Apr 9 2009, 01:44 PM

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You won't even feel the ISO difference la honestly (:
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QUOTE(achew @ Apr 9 2009, 11:16 AM)
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IF u r getting sony..i would suggest u get the A300 single kit lens package first. Unless u already know/define your shooting style..else i don see a reason to get the telephoto just becos its slightly cheaper..if u don shoot things from far..the lens would b wasted and incurs more cost to u...for my case im glad i didnt get the twin lenses package bcoz i rather find the need to zoom so far..and y A300 not A200?for this..i think liveview would b suitable for u..since u r newly converted to DSLR so u might find urself shooting from ur LCD at the early stage(altho i recommend to shoot using viewfinder and gesture helps to reduce weight of the camera too)..but as a girl..i believe u wont want to shoot in those awkward positions..so this is when liveview comes really handy..

actually im the only Sony user among my friends..so after 5 months of observation..this is wad i think..

1)sony built in stabilizer is REALLY a godsend...u would not worry about those really exp lenses with built in IS/VR stabilizer..

2)sony has lesser choice of lenses especially for old minolta lenses..if u need one..the only way is to get a 2nd hand..(altho the choice is lesser..but i feel that its enough to cover everything)

3)sony has lousier ISO performance as compared with others(but for me i always shoot in low ISO..so it doesnt affect me at all =p )

4)D60 is lighter than A300..u have to feel it yourself..we cant possibly tell u which weight suits u more..some prefer slightly heavier gear...some find it tiring after prolong shooting(especially with big lenses).

5)i don really like the shutter sound of A300 as compared with D80/450D(haha..this is just a personally pref)
personally..i think its good to go down n test out both set..see which one feels more comfortable to u..afterall u r the one who need to use it..
brand wise is usually not a big issue...all brands hav their own pros n cons..if u comparing camera at similar league..they usually hav similar spec n performance..and im sure there r helpful ppl from all the brands when u need it...so at the end of the day..its ur skill and shooting style that determine the quality of ur photo..camera is jsut a tool...
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i took some of my points from him. dont blame me. he tested both cameras.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 01:38 PM)
so a sum of the pros cons

D60
+ Better ISO performance
+ Lighter
+ More lens & accessories choice
+ Focusing sound more silent
- No live view
- AF-S lens costs more money
- No built in AF-S and VR

A300
+ Live view - can take pics while viewing LCD
+ 9 focus point VS 3 focus point of D60
+ Built in anti shake
+ Have a flip out LCD screen for better view
- Less accessories and lens options
- Heavier
- Sony has lousier ISO performance

am i right on all the points??
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although your points would be correct but in terms of technology A300 still stand top of D60.....
recently i found out by turning off the NR reduction boost up the detail of the image....

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when u r comparing the entry level of sony with entry lvl of nikon..they both are equall...u cant really tell the difference.
but when it comes to higher end camera..i *think* nikon is better...
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What do you mean by technology diff?

And is there any diff in the picture quality because of the technology diff?
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And 1 more turn on point. In terms of looks the Sony alpha would thrash the Nikon in the body and lens. (:
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM)
when u r comparing the entry level of sony with entry lvl of nikon..they both are equall...u cant really tell the difference.
but when it comes to higher end camera..i *think* nikon is better...
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many expert claim that A900 pair with a CZ2470 can tell no difference when compare with Canon 1Ds.....
dont too underestimate Sony...but D3X is just so powerful lah.....
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM)
when u r comparing the entry level of sony with entry lvl of nikon..they both are equall...u cant really tell the difference.
but when it comes to higher end camera..i *think* nikon is better...
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yeah i would agree with you after reading all of this info.. a300 is better in something and d60 is better in something else.. heck the pros and cons weigh the same with both of this cameras.
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post Apr 9 2009, 01:49 PM

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Well I had a Nikon D40X before this. Very potong stim wan. Get my alphy already , happy everyday. (:
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM)
What do you mean by technology diff?

And is there any diff in the picture quality because of the technology diff?
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means more technology is in the a300...for example...u get to play with wireless flash using the a300 it has a built-in flash commander.. D60 u need to buy an external flash trigger to play with wireless flash.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM)
What do you mean by technology diff?

And is there any diff in the picture quality because of the technology diff?
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1st of all the MPX of D60 is merely 6.4 mpx while A300 has 4.0 MPX more so the detail should be more in A300.....
Live View with tilting LCD is very handy in many situations...
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post Apr 9 2009, 01:52 PM

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What's MPX? =p
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Apr 9 2009, 01:48 PM)
many expert claim that A900 pair with a CZ2470 can tell no difference when compare with Canon 1Ds.....
dont too underestimate Sony...but D3X is just so powerful lah.....
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i didnt under estimate it...hey i was a sony user...about the a900 vs canon 1d...i dono...but if u go DXO mark and check..u will see. Anyway...u pay what u get...D3x is 2 times the price of A900..ofcoz it is better..
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QUOTE(vandechrome @ Apr 9 2009, 01:41 PM)
got it bro?
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yes, thanks a lot icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Apr 9 2009, 01:52 PM)
What's MPX? =p
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mega pixel
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Apr 9 2009, 01:52 PM)
What's MPX? =p
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megapixels....
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Apr 9 2009, 01:50 PM)
1st of all the MPX of D60 is merely 6.4 mpx while A300 has 4.0 MPX more so the detail should be more in A300.....
Live View with tilting LCD is very handy in many situations...
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d60 6mp? are u sure? d60 10mp man...replacement for d40x..

live view with tilting lcd a definite plus
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Actually the main 3 competitors are Sony , Nikon and Canon only right? Olympus?


Added on April 9, 2009, 1:54 pmD40X also 10MP. D40 only 6MP.

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 9 2009, 01:52 PM)
i didnt under estimate it...hey i was a sony user...about the a900 vs canon 1d...i dono...but if u go DXO mark and check..u will see. Anyway...u pay what u get...D3x is 2 times the price of A900..ofcoz it is better..
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sorry bro.....the comparison is read frm a foreign outdoor photography magazine....
wrote by someone who work for National Geographic.....
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um..didn't D60 use Sony 10.2MP CCD sensor used in the Sony A200/A300?

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