QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 9 2009, 11:52 AM)
how can you call that free gym?A900 + VG + 70200G + f58
total is > RM20k already la
whole life platinum gym membership only RM4-5k
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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V23!, The Orange Legion
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QUOTE(achew @ Apr 9 2009, 11:16 AM) @alpha_company thanks for the opinions man IF u r getting sony..i would suggest u get the A300 single kit lens package first. Unless u already know/define your shooting style..else i don see a reason to get the telephoto just becos its slightly cheaper..if u don shoot things from far..the lens would b wasted and incurs more cost to u...for my case im glad i didnt get the twin lenses package bcoz i rather find the need to zoom so far..and y A300 not A200?for this..i think liveview would b suitable for u..since u r newly converted to DSLR so u might find urself shooting from ur LCD at the early stage(altho i recommend to shoot using viewfinder and gesture helps to reduce weight of the camera too)..but as a girl..i believe u wont want to shoot in those awkward positions..so this is when liveview comes really handy.. actually im the only Sony user among my friends..so after 5 months of observation..this is wad i think.. 1)sony built in stabilizer is REALLY a godsend...u would not worry about those really exp lenses with built in IS/VR stabilizer.. 2)sony has lesser choice of lenses especially for old minolta lenses..if u need one..the only way is to get a 2nd hand..(altho the choice is lesser..but i feel that its enough to cover everything) 3)sony has lousier ISO performance as compared with others(but for me i always shoot in low ISO..so it doesnt affect me at all =p ) 4)D60 is lighter than A300..u have to feel it yourself..we cant possibly tell u which weight suits u more..some prefer slightly heavier gear...some find it tiring after prolong shooting(especially with big lenses). 5)i don really like the shutter sound of A300 as compared with D80/450D(haha..this is just a personally pref) personally..i think its good to go down n test out both set..see which one feels more comfortable to u..afterall u r the one who need to use it.. brand wise is usually not a big issue...all brands hav their own pros n cons..if u comparing camera at similar league..they usually hav similar spec n performance..and im sure there r helpful ppl from all the brands when u need it...so at the end of the day..its ur skill and shooting style that determine the quality of ur photo..camera is jsut a tool... D60 uses lens with AF-S (stabilizer) to autofocus which costs more,. Does A300 have a tech similar to that? what is it? is it in the lens or in the body? |
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Apr 9 2009, 12:06 PM
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Apr 9 2009, 12:09 PM
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AF-S is a type of lens which has built-in autofocus motor...not for stabilizing ur shot. Nikon stabilizer is called Vibration Reduction(VR). D60 need AF-S to focus because the camera itself does not have motor to autofocus.
All Sony uses built-in image stabilizer which is in the body rather than the lens..it is called 'Super Steady Shot'. Im not sure whether sony lenses have built-in auto focus motor or not...need other sifu to explain..i want to know too. |
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 9 2009, 11:52 AM) haha..bcoz like i said..i don really use tele photo..so when i change to ff in the future..i probably get 2470 or 1635...VG..err...stil hvn use it b4..but i don feel the lack of it for the AF-S...if i not wrong...these 3 lenses of Sony r using the Ultrasonic AutoFocus motor inherited from minolta..SAL 70-200mm f/2.8G, SAL35mm f/1.4G and SAL 300mm f/2.8G..correct me if im wrong =) |
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Apr 9 2009, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Apr 9 2009, 11:54 AM) OMG...It should be close to 2kg.. Bleh la..Badan cam Arnold. XD..kerink like me a200 pun da xlarat..lolAnyway, i think I found on the net some kind of strap that well, strap around the wrist like those digital video one. Must try la this thing. QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 11:51 AM) wow.. a clear non biased explaination indeed. lol..Its personal la i think about the 1000D..some may like it and some don't... So now i'm narrowing it down to D60 and A300. Bye2 toy like 1000D canon 4got to add something.. D60=SD card A300=CF card and built in flash for D60 pop up higher than a300 does. Happy hunting! |
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 9 2009, 12:09 PM) AF-S is a type of lens which has built-in autofocus motor...not for stabilizing ur shot. Nikon stabilizer is called Vibration Reduction(VR). D60 need AF-S to focus because the camera itself does not have motor to autofocus. sony does have built-in auto focus motor lenses like sony 70200 G f2.8, sony 70300 G , sony 2470 etc...but still the SSS is in body which Nikon and Canon using VR and IS in lensesAll Sony uses built-in image stabilizer which is in the body rather than the lens..it is called 'Super Steady Shot'. Im not sure whether sony lenses have built-in auto focus motor or not...need other sifu to explain..i want to know too. |
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Apr 9 2009, 12:17 PM
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AlphaBeta, some Sony lenses have a built-in auto focus motor - they have Super Sonic Motor (SSM) in their name.
Sony/Zeiss lenses with SSM: CZ 16-35mm F2.8 SSM CZ 24-70mm F2.8 SSM Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM Some Sigma lenses also have a built-in auto focus motor for Sony mount - they have Hyper Sonic Motor (HSM) in their name. Sigma lenses with HSM in A-mount (already exist and can be bought): Sigma 50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro achew, the Sony 35mm F1.4G does not have SSM. This post has been edited by albnok: Apr 9 2009, 12:18 PM |
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 9 2009, 12:09 PM) AF-S is a type of lens which has built-in autofocus motor...not for stabilizing ur shot. Nikon stabilizer is called Vibration Reduction(VR). D60 need AF-S to focus because the camera itself does not have motor to autofocus. Okay sorry for the wrong info..got a bit confused back there..heheAll Sony uses built-in image stabilizer which is in the body rather than the lens..it is called 'Super Steady Shot'. Im not sure whether sony lenses have built-in auto focus motor or not...need other sifu to explain..i want to know too. D60 1. Af-S is for autofocus. Not built in D60 2. D60 kit has a VR lens included, reduces effects of vibration/shaking hands while taking pics. A300 1. Does it have AF-S kind of tech on the lens AND/OR on the camera body??? 2. Is super steady shot equivalent to VR on d60? Compare 133X CF Card to 8gb transend class 6 sdhc card for nikon d60kit which is better in terms of performance? D60 flash pop up higher = better? This post has been edited by alpha_company: Apr 9 2009, 12:24 PM |
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QUOTE(albnok @ Apr 9 2009, 12:17 PM) AlphaBeta, some Sony lenses have a built-in auto focus motor - they have Super Sonic Motor (SSM) in their name. oh i see...thx albnok..something new to me today Added on April 9, 2009, 12:30 pm QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 12:21 PM) Okay sorry for the wrong info..got a bit confused back there..hehe because d60 doesnt have 1..blame nikon for not putting 1 into it. and yes AF-S so that u can auto focus. This is why u r limited to some lenses only, you cant use AF-D lens..if u do..u need to manual focus.D60 1. Af-S is for autofocus. Not built in D60 2. D60 kit has a VR lens included, reduces effects of vibration/shaking hands while taking pics. A300 1. Does it have AF-S kind of tech on the lens AND/OR on the camera body??? 2. Is super steady shot equivalent to VR on d60? Compare 133X CF Card to 8gb transend class 6 sdhc card for nikon d60kit which is better in terms of performance? D60 flash pop up higher = better? juz mentioned on top..yes it does..its called SSM and yes Super steady shot is is the same thing(theoretically but not technically) as nikon's VR. SDHC class 6 Extreme version or normal? if it comes together with the camera..then i assume it is normal SDHC class 6. So Sony 133x is faster. But nvm the card dude...A300 fps isnt that quick that you need a fast speed card. Unless u r bursting using RAW pop-up flash sits higher so that you wont get shadow of ur lens when u r shoting a close subject. This post has been edited by AlphaBeta: Apr 9 2009, 12:32 PM |
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 12:21 PM) Okay sorry for the wrong info..got a bit confused back there..hehe D60D60 1. Af-S is for autofocus. Not built in D60 2. D60 kit has a VR lens included, reduces effects of vibration/shaking hands while taking pics. A300 1. Does it have AF-S kind of tech on the lens AND/OR on the camera body??? 2. Is super steady shot equivalent to VR on d60? Compare 133X CF Card to 8gb transend class 6 sdhc card for nikon d60kit which is better in terms of performance? D60 flash pop up higher = better? 1)VR is included in the D60 kitlens...but think furture..wad if u need to upgrade lens in the future...VR or non VR?the price is alot diff... a300 1)yes..on the lenses as what albnok said 2)yes..in someway..VR = IS = SSS im not sure about the pop up flash with one is better...but most of the time..u either don use the built-in flash..or u use a external flash Imo..built-in flash creates redeyes more often..and when u using long lens..ur lens would block the light from built-in flash and creates a semi circular shadow at the bottom of ur photo...most imptly..built-in flash is only 1 directional..which i don really like...so no point comparing the built-in flash imo... ok guys..im off to market to get some 'inspirations' =.= actually im working night shift tonite..but heck..don think im slping now =p |
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Apr 9 2009, 12:34 PM
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I got a quote for these two. I didnt know that there is an Extreme version of class 6.
8gb transend class 6 sdhc card for nikon d60kit Sony Alpha A300 Single Lens Kit + Sony 4GB 133X CF Card |
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Apr 9 2009, 12:38 PM
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if it is tht brand...i found on the internet..it is 150x..so transcend is faster..
hey wait..why r u deciding which camera to go for by looking at the memory cards? this is so wrong. |
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QUOTE(albnok @ Apr 9 2009, 12:17 PM) AlphaBeta, some Sony lenses have a built-in auto focus motor - they have Super Sonic Motor (SSM) in their name. 1. The SAL1870 18-70mm f3.5-5.6 standard zoom lens that is included in A300 has built in auto focus or not?Sony/Zeiss lenses with SSM: CZ 16-35mm F2.8 SSM CZ 24-70mm F2.8 SSM Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM Some Sigma lenses also have a built-in auto focus motor for Sony mount - they have Hyper Sonic Motor (HSM) in their name. Sigma lenses with HSM in A-mount (already exist and can be bought): Sigma 50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro achew, the Sony 35mm F1.4G does not have SSM. 2. If i get D60, buying an AF-S lens would be more expensive. 3. If i get a A300 and i want to buy a 2nd lens, do I need SSM for AUTOFOCUS in my camera? |
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alpha_company where are you from?
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kedah..y?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 12:39 PM) 1. The SAL1870 18-70mm f3.5-5.6 standard zoom lens that is included in A300 has built in auto focus or not? 1. every sony camera has built-in auto focus motor...don worry..it works on every lens.2. If i get D60, buying an AF-S lens would be more expensive. 3. If i get a A300 and i want to buy a 2nd lens, do I need SSM for AUTOFOCUS in my camera? 2. Yes..more expensive..but i think now most of the lenses nikon comes out with are AF-S lenses.. 3. no u dont need to...like i said..it has built-in autofocus motor in the camera body. You cant choose to get lens with built-in or without it..sometimes they are with the motor and without.. you cant opt for a lens without it. |
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 9 2009, 12:42 PM) owh, i tot u in KL, if that so, we can meet up at the TT tonite..then u can ask anything u like..a lot easier..1 of photographer from Kedah, using A200 and Canon 30d(if im not mistaken) http://toshaphotography.fotopages.com/ This post has been edited by vandechrome: Apr 9 2009, 12:51 PM |
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