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post Mar 20 2009, 10:13 PM, updated 17y ago

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TM International’s (TMI) shares hit a low of RM2.15 and closed at RM2.16 yesterday. The share price is still 25% off the level it was trading at when the rights issue was proposed on Feb 26, although it may have found the bottom. Much of the sell-down over the last 3 weeks was attributed to concerns over the magnitude of dilution, with RM5.25bn set to be raised and where TMI has yet to fix the price of the rights shares, which will clearly give rise to the risk of further dilution


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Trading opportunities ahead of rights pricing. We think there may be trading opportunities over the next week or so as we draw closer to the price fixing date (based on the 5-day volume weighted moving average price prior to the price fixing date of March 27). Essentially, the dilutive impact from the rights would be less strenuous should TMI’s share price ‘rally’ ahead of the price fixing date. We are eyeing a trading range of RM2.40-RM2.50, based on the similar discount levels offered by recent rights issues in the market. We upgrade our recommendation on the stock to a TRADING BUY from NEUTRAL given the probability of a sustained uptick in its share price over the window period (March 20-26) in order to mitigate the dilution risks.


source: http://bursastreet.blogspot.com/2009/03/tm...ernational.html
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post Mar 20 2009, 10:17 PM

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this is sooo late to the party. wink.gif


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post Mar 20 2009, 11:31 PM

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What is the closing price for today ?
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post Mar 21 2009, 12:48 AM

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2.35 already

that report by osk, prolly means osk bought quite a bit of TMI in the last 2 days.. hoping some fish follow on monday so they can off load.. hahaha
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post Mar 21 2009, 02:31 AM

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post Mar 21 2009, 10:39 AM

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so its the time to go in or not ?????????????
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QUOTE(spiderbaby @ Mar 21 2009, 10:39 AM)
so its the time to go in or not ?????????????
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Just be careful when you decide to jump into the boat.

What is YOUR target price and how many lots you're going invest?

Note that the current price is already not at the low level.

Do some math and decide accordingly and take into account the current economy.
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post Mar 21 2009, 01:21 PM

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bought some last wednesday at 2.25. thinking of adding some.... but as you say the price is already quite high. when is the right issue date


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QUOTE(spiderbaby @ Mar 21 2009, 01:21 PM)
bought some last wednesday at 2.25. thinking of adding some.... but as you say the price is already quite high. when is the right issue date
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TMI also got right issue ? That will defenitely bring down the share price. So, is it a good time to buy now or still wait ?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Mar 21 2009, 02:54 PM)
TMI also got right issue ? That will defenitely bring down the share price. So, is it a good time to buy now or still wait ?
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NST Saturday, March 21, 2009, 03.16 PM

TMI gains most in more than a month

TM International Bhd, Malaysia’s biggest publicly-traded mobile-phone operator, climbed the most in more than a month in Kuala Lumpur trading after analysts said recent declines were excessive.

TMI gained 4.9 per cent to RM2.35 at midday close on the Malaysian stock exchange, the biggest increase since Feb. 6. The benchmark Kuala Lumpur Composite Index fell 0.1 per cent.

“The stock is recovering after falling so much since the rights issue announcement,” said Ikmal Hafizi Zulkifli, an analyst at TA Securities Holdings Bhd. in Kuala Lumpur. “People are speculating on an ex-rights price of around RM2.90 so the stock” started looking attractive when it fell below that level, he said.

OSK Research Sdn late yesterday upgraded its recommendation on TMI to “trading buy” from “neutral,” saying the 27 per cent drop in the share price since Feb 26 when the company announced its RM5.25 billion (US$1.4 billion) rights offer, suggests it has “already bottomed for now.”

TMI will fix its rights price on March 27, according to the share sale terms sent to clients by the arrangers and obtained by Bloomberg. New shares will be on sale from April 15 to April 29, the document showed.

The company, about 45 per cent owned by the government’s state investment agency Khazanah Nasional Bhd, will use the proceeds to repay the RM4 billion of debt owed to its former parent, Telekom Malaysia Bhd. It will also spend about US$2 billion to refinance loans taken for an investment in a mobile-phone operator in India last year.

“In theory, there is limited scope for TMI’s share price to decline further since it would be value destructive for management given the prospects of significantly higher dilution for minorities,” Jeffrey Tan, an analyst at OSK, wrote in the report. - Bloomberg
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post Mar 21 2009, 03:21 PM

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does this mean that they will try to rise the price up so that when they set the price on march 27.
or else the price for sale on april will be low is it?

correcy me if i am wrong
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QUOTE(spiderbaby @ Mar 21 2009, 03:21 PM)
does this mean that they will try to rise the price up so that when they set the price on march 27.
or else the price for sale on april will be low is it?

correcy me if i am wrong
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Yes, they will try as much they could.
The higher the price, the higher the right issue price can be set, eventually more money can be raised.

What if stock price is low and right issue is same price with the market price, then who is going to subscribe those right issue then?

Having said that, there is certain limitation they can push up, because no individual party or parties can fight the market force.
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khazanah can (i hope). they have 10 billion from the 2nd mini budget

let the force be with you.....
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 21 2009, 03:25 PM)
Yes, they will try as much they could.
The higher the price, the higher the right issue price can be set, eventually more money can be raised.

What if stock price is low and right issue is same price with the market price, then who is going to subscribe those right issue then?

Having said that, there is certain limitation they can push up, because no individual party or parties can fight the market force.
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If this is the case, is it okay for us to buy at 2.3 now and make a quick profit?
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post Mar 21 2009, 10:28 PM

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Its worth a try seeing how TMI has been most active traded for past 2 days. No gain without risk brows.gif

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post Mar 21 2009, 11:02 PM

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TMI closed at 2.35. The target price is RM2.50.

Does that mean that all the big boys will be queuing up to offload at 2.50?

If that is the case, you will prolly be able to sell it at 2.45 at best.

So your profit is 0.10 if u enter at 2.35 and exit at 2.45. Thats a 4.2% profit, before deducting charges.

Assuming you can sell 0.15 above your entry price, your profit is 6.4% before deducting charges.

Worth the risk?




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QUOTE(kimmel @ Mar 21 2009, 10:28 PM)
Its worth a try seeing how TMI has been most active traded for past 2 days. No gain without risk  brows.gif
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Yes, highest volume for the past 2 days. Not too sure if it can sustain next week!
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If those who bought at cheaper price around 2.16 -2.35 earlier and still don't sell off after the ex right issue price at 2.50, will they get more profit? hmm.gif

Khazanah, EPF and other big fund ppl are taking up the rights issue till fully subscribe.. since all the big shark are in for the rights issue...will the share price going up further after the rights issue complete? Or it will go down ? hmm.gif

QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 21 2009, 03:25 PM)
Yes, they will try as much they could.
The higher the price, the higher the right issue price can be set, eventually more money can be raised.

What if stock price is low and right issue is same price with the market price, then who is going to subscribe those right issue then?

Having said that, there is certain limitation they can push up, because no individual party or parties can fight the market force.
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post Mar 22 2009, 09:34 AM

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If i'm not mistaken, it will go down first and up again maybe in a week time.
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:17 PM

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The activity in TMI is still highly suspicious to me.

The last two trading days, were the first and third most active days for the share since it listed less than a year ago.

We shall see in the few days who is behind the massive buying.

I have 6000 share options for TMI, and when i see the value of my options, dunno want to laugh or cry. It is almost 25k in the red, haha.


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QUOTE(elhh82 @ Mar 22 2009, 11:17 PM)
The activity in TMI is still highly suspicious to me.

The last two trading days, were the first and third most active days for the share since it listed less than a year ago.

We shall see in the few days who is behind the massive buying.

I have 6000 share options for TMI, and when i see the value of my options, dunno want to laugh or cry. It is almost 25k in the red, haha.
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Share option ? Meaning you're working in TMI ?
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post Mar 23 2009, 09:19 AM

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a lot of buy sell at tmi
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post Mar 23 2009, 03:26 PM

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TMI on rocket fuel ady.. fly so fast n furious after panic drop tis morning.

QUOTE(spiderbaby @ Mar 23 2009, 09:19 AM)
a lot of buy sell at tmi
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TMI closed @ 2.610.. gained 26 sen from red initially today. What a surprising strong performance. shocking.gif
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post Mar 23 2009, 05:50 PM

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lets hope TMI can gain another RM5 so my share options can be cashed out!

now its so so so red.
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Mar 23 2009, 05:28 PM)
TMI closed @ 2.610.. gained 26 sen from red initially today. What a surprising strong performance.  shocking.gif
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I want to know also. It was red in the early morning but suddenly jump up in the afternoon!
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I want to know also. It was red in the early morning but suddenly jump up in the afternoon!
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If only I know it will jump that high, I'll buy 1000 lots ('00) when its in the red and make more than RM26K intraday profit. doh.gif

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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Mar 23 2009, 07:12 PM)
If only I know it will jump that high, I'll buy 1000 lots ('00) when its in the red and make more than RM26K intraday profit.  doh.gif
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Haha. Nobody can predict that. Eles i will cash out all my FD for it. biggrin.gif
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TMI rights issue at RM1.12 per share

KUALA LUMPUR: TM International Bhd (TMI), which intends to raise RM5.25 billion to deleverage its debt, has proposed that the pricing for the right issue be fixed at RM1.12 per share.

Subject to the approval of shareholders at an ongoing EGM today, the exercise is expected to be completed by the second quarter.

TMI has also proposed that the rights issue be carried out on a basis of five rights shares for every four shares held.
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Some questions :-
1) Usually, how much will the price drop be after the rights issue ?
2) Is it advisable to cash in on the rights issue ? (or wait to buy after)
3) For Nominee account, how will the rights issue be sent ?

Anyone can assist? I m still noob here.
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No wonder no trading for TMI today!
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post Mar 24 2009, 08:33 PM

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TMI's Rights Issue share has been priced at a discount of 57.1% to yesterday's closing price. so what now? any sifu to comment..
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QUOTE(kimmel @ Mar 24 2009, 08:33 PM)
TMI's Rights Issue share has been priced at a discount of 57.1% to  yesterday's closing price. so what now? any sifu to comment..
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It just mean they forsee the right issue is not "laku", need to sell at signficant discount, while it will double (more than doubt as 5:4 ratio) the number of shares out there which is not good for share price.

As simple as that.
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What will be the share price tmr ? Can someone predict ?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Mar 24 2009, 09:45 PM)
What will be the share price tmr ? Can someone predict ?
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Can some do some calculation for this share? Up or Down?
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 24 2009, 10:38 PM)
Can some do some calculation for this share? Up or Down?
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I guess it will go down but i don't know by how much. Maybe 10-20cents lower.
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Check this out EdgeDaily Article

“The issue price of RM1.12 per rights Share represents a discount of 50.9% to the 5-day volume-weighted average market price (VMAMP) up to March 23 of RM2.28 and 31.7% to the theoretical ex-rights price of TMI shares of RM1.64 (based on the five-day VWAMP)."

Sez theoritical ex-rights price of RM1.64 !!! Good or bad ?
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Previously you had 4 Shares at RM2.61 which comes to RM10.44 assuming you bought recently.

If you subscribe to the rights at RM1.12, you have to fork out another RM5.6 to own 5 rights which will equal 1 share each.

So after the subscription you will have 9 shares, which cost you about RM16.04 which means each share is only RM1.78 for you. This is your cost price if you bought the share at RM2.61 recently.


Because of the huge rights issue, EPS and dividend will be diluted. The pie remains the same but have to cut to smaller pieces for more shares.

If you want to guess how much the price will stabilise at then you need to use their historical PER and compare it with the estimated future price.


Their latest EPS is RM0.1348 according to OSK. After their last quarter announcement the market punished their stock to below RM3 to around RM2.70 and even lower. So based on the market forces, they judged TMI PER to be around 17-20x.

So the diluted EPS would be (RM0.1348 * 4) / 9 = RM0.0599

Multiply the diluted EPS by the PER ; 0.0599 * 20 = RM1.198 which is the diluted share price.


So basically, unless your costs after the rights is below RM1.198, you are going to lose money.

Hope I got that right.


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Meaning TMI share will drop once the market open ?
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Citi has cut TM International Bhd's target price to RM3.25 a share from RM4.50 a share.

With the rights price now set at RM1.12, and the stock down 15 per cent since the plan was unveiled, Citi now sees short-term share price strength as possible.

"Our new (and lower) cum-rights target price of RM3.25 implies 24.5 per cent upside from current levels," it said. - Reuters


waaa.. nobody listening to Citi ah? 1k per 1k share held today... if hit target price lor.... nobody wanna cheong in TMI ah?
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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Mar 25 2009, 11:20 AM)
waaa.. nobody listening to Citi ah? 1k per 1k share held today... if hit target price lor....  nobody wanna cheong in TMI ah?
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Well.. it went as high as 2.420 this morning. But currently trading @ 2.330.

A bit too risky.. very volatile now. Wait & see. hmm.gif

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Its trading in very volatile range.. I agree... volatile also means money to be made... 2.31/32.. am q-ed at 2.31 for testing water.. 2k.. and another 3k at 2.25... LOL...
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OSK latest TP for TMI 2.5

Attached File  TMI_250309.pdf ( 151.5k ) Number of downloads: 56


QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Mar 25 2009, 11:52 AM)
Its trading in very volatile range.. I agree... volatile also means money to be made... 2.31/32.. am q-ed at 2.31 for testing water.. 2k.. and another 3k at 2.25... LOL...
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Mar 25 2009, 01:33 PM)
OSK latest TP for TMI 2.5

Attached File  TMI_250309.pdf ( 151.5k ) Number of downloads: 56

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Should I buy or should stay?
If I buy there will be double.
If I stay there will be trouble cool.gif

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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Mar 25 2009, 11:52 AM)
Its trading in very volatile range.. I agree... volatile also means money to be made... 2.31/32.. am q-ed at 2.31 for testing water.. 2k.. and another 3k at 2.25... LOL...
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Just to add, volatile means
1. Money to be made
2. Money to be lose.

Get it right, make big buck
Get it wrong, loss your pant

50/50. Just like bet big/small in term of trading. biggrin.gif
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Yes... yes.. Sifu Cherroy... I was trying to look at the positive side.. LOL.. definitely its two ways..

Got in at 2.28 @ 2k... lets see how it goes.. smile.gif.
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TMI closed @ 2.290 today which is lower than expectation.

Will it open higher or lower tomorrow? hmm.gif
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waaa.. u wanna gib me heart attack ah? lowe enuff lo.... time to go up.. up...
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Mar 25 2009, 05:58 PM)
TMI closed @ 2.290 today which is lower than expectation.

Will it open higher or lower tomorrow?  hmm.gif
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I think lower lah after the Right Issue announcement. biggrin.gif
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TMI lai liao... 2.39... vmad.gif I have only 2k.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:55 PM)
TMI lai liao... 2.39... vmad.gif I have only 2k.. sad.gif
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Hmmm... Then wait for it to go higher lah before selling! biggrin.gif
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hi all,

I have bought 20 lots of TMI (now Axiata) about a month ago, and supposingly I was entitled to pick up the rights issue. But so far I havent receive any letter from TMI/Axiata about the rights issue yet and the ex date is on 8th of April? Does anyone receive any letter from TMI/Axiata about the right issue, and advicing to make the payment directly to the registrar? I wanted to picj up the rights issue since it is at a discount, and I am losing money at this counter so far...but I dont know how without their letter... Please advice. rclxub.gif
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hi all,

I have bought 20 lots of TMI (now Axiata) about a month ago, and supposingly I was entitled to pick up the rights issue. But so far I havent receive any letter from TMI/Axiata about the rights issue yet and the ex date is on 8th of April? Does anyone receive any letter from TMI/Axiata about the right issue, and advicing to make the payment directly to the registrar? I wanted to picj up the rights issue since it is at a discount, and I am losing money at this counter so far...but I dont know how without their letter...  Please advice.  rclxub.gif
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If the ex-date is 8th, then they will only send out the right issue subscription form after the lodgement date which typically 2 trading days after the ex-date.

It is selling at discount but you gain nothing out of it because share price will adjusted downwards due to right issue, unless the price goes up after the ex. Having said that its price highly will creep up a little, but not a must.

If the share price stay as same with the adjusted price, you gain nothing out of the right issue.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 3 2009, 09:11 PM)
If the ex-date is 8th, then they will only send out the right issue subscription form after the lodgement date which typically 2 trading days after the ex-date.

It is selling at discount but you gain nothing out of it because share price will adjusted downwards due to right issue, unless the price goes up after the ex. Having said that its price highly will creep up a little, but not a must.

If the share price stay as same with the adjusted price, you gain nothing out of the right issue.
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This also happens to be my first rights issue, so I am curious how is it done for nominee CDS accounts. I understand that this type of account is charged for "helping" us in subscribing. Any sifus out there can describe the process ? Is it done online?

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 3 2009, 09:11 PM)
If the ex-date is 8th, then they will only send out the right issue subscription form after the lodgement date which typically 2 trading days after the ex-date.

It is selling at discount but you gain nothing out of it because share price will adjusted downwards due to right issue, unless the price goes up after the ex. Having said that its price highly will creep up a little, but not a must.

If the share price stay as same with the adjusted price, you gain nothing out of the right issue.
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Thanks for the information Cherroy, apparently you are right, I have checked with the registrar tenaga koporat sdn bhd, and they confirm that the form will be sent out on 15th of April, so I should receive it few days later...

I heard that th price may decrease after the ex date a little, but since I wanted to hold this counter for a while, I better pick up the rights issue to compensate a little bit of the price decrease if the price come lower.

At least this is better than holding the same amount of stock, and somemore the price decreases I guess, doh.gif correct me if I am wrong.
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If we're to buy TMI to gain short term profit next week. When is the date we should buy ? 8th Apr or 9th Apr ?
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If we're to buy TMI to gain short term profit next week. When is the date we should buy ? 8th Apr or 9th Apr ?
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Well, if you buy on the 8th, then the share goes up the next day, then you should buy on 8th.

On the other hand if share price drops on 9th, then buy on 9th.

However, there is no guarantee it would go up on the 10th biggrin.gif

Definately it would drop on 8th, but maybe better to buy on 7th. You decide rclxms.gif

Sounds complicated. hmm.gif

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Well, if you buy on the 8th, then the share goes up the next day, then you should buy on 8th.

On the other hand if share price drops on 9th, then buy on 9th.

However, there is no guarantee it would go up on the 10th biggrin.gif

Definately it would drop on 8th, but maybe better to buy on 7th. You decide  rclxms.gif

Sounds complicated. hmm.gif
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haha... Sound complicated. I will buy if the price start to drop. I think it will be around 1.80 if i'm not mistaken. biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the information Cherroy, apparently you are right, I have checked with the registrar tenaga koporat sdn bhd, and they confirm that the form will be sent out on 15th of April, so I should receive it few days later...

I heard that th price may decrease after the ex date a little, but since I wanted to hold this counter for a while, I better pick up the rights issue to compensate a little bit of the price decrease if the price come lower.

At least this is better than holding the same amount of stock, and somemore the price decreases I guess,  doh.gif  correct me if I am wrong.
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Yes, precisely, if don't pick up the right, you will lose a lot from it.

The choice should be

1. Pick up the right
2. If don't intend to pick up the right, sell the stock before ex.
3. If don't intend to pick up the right, sell the right (if the right is renounceable).
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Yes, precisely, if don't pick up the right, you will lose a lot from it.

The choice should be

1. Pick up the right
2. If don't intend to pick up the right, sell the stock before ex.
3. If don't intend to pick up the right, sell the right (if the right is renounceable).
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How to sell the right ?
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QUOTE(elhh82 @ Mar 22 2009, 11:17 PM)
The activity in TMI is still highly suspicious to me.

The last two trading days, were the first and third most active days for the share since it listed less than a year ago.

We shall see in the few days who is behind the massive buying.

I have 6000 share options for TMI, and when i see the value of my options, dunno want to laugh or cry. It is almost 25k in the red, haha.
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hi all,

I have bought 20 lots of TMI (now Axiata) about a month ago, and supposingly I was entitled to pick up the rights issue. But so far I havent receive any letter from TMI/Axiata about the rights issue yet and the ex date is on 8th of April? Does anyone receive any letter from TMI/Axiata about the right issue, and advicing to make the payment directly to the registrar? I wanted to picj up the rights issue since it is at a discount, and I am losing money at this counter so far...but I dont know how without their letter...  Please advice.  rclxub.gif
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noobs here. I wanna ask sth here before TMI right issue out.

1) I got 6 lots of TMI(ESOS), so meaning that they will send me a letter and ask do I interseted to buy the right issue?
2) when will I get the letter?
3) without the letter (if I m not one of the TMI share holder) then can I buy its share with the right issue price?
4) I m using iTrade , in the system is automatically display RM1.12 for TMI? Basically how can I buy it? I wanna buy 9lot
5) shud I open another account in iTrade cos previously the price I have this TMI is at 7.31, cos if I use the same account then will diluted the share price [ (7.01x6)+(1.12x9) ]/ 15 = 3.476 per lot . thus I just open a new account for only the Rm1.12 right issue and I can earn more from there. is that workable?


plz help sifu

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How to sell the right ?
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It will be listed afterwards, high possible counter name would be TMI-OR. Check it out later, you can see this counter which will be listed for 1 week then delisted.

QUOTE(fumi @ Apr 6 2009, 01:43 AM)
noobs here. I wanna ask sth here before TMI right issue out.

1) I got 6 lots of TMI(ESOS), so meaning that they will send me a letter and ask do I interseted to buy the right issue?
2) when will I get the letter?
3) without the letter (if I m not one of the TMI share holder) then can I buy its share with the right issue price?
4) I m using iTrade , in the system is automatically display RM1.12 for TMI? Basically how can I buy it? I wanna buy 9lot
5) shud I open another account in iTrade cos previously the price I have this TMI is at 7.31, cos if I use the same account then will diluted the share price  [ (7.01x6)+(1.12x9) ]/ 15 =  3.476 per lot . thus I just open a new account for only the Rm1.12 right issue and I can earn more from there. is that workable?
plz help sifu
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1. Yes.
2. After lodgement date possibly 1xth April
3. No. You need it.
4. No, it has nothing to do with itrade platform
5. Don't need. It has nothing to do with your trading account. Also one is enough to carry out all the issue.

Just approach itrade (or CIMB) personnel to assist you the right issue (if you don't sure what to do), they should able to assist you on this issue.
Feel free to post any further inquiry needed.

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meaning that I no need to do anything on 8th of April (buy the share)? All I need to do now is to wait for the letter, right?
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meaning that I no need to do anything on 8th of April (buy the share)? All I need to do now is to wait for the letter, right?
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Yes, but if you don't receive it about a week or so, please check with the company registrar.
As there is a date line for the right subsription, should be before the end of the month.
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Yes, but if you don't receive it about a week or so, please check with the company registrar.
As there is a date line for the right subsription, should be before the end of the month.
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thanks for the answer, hmmm last questions


Let say I bought 9 lots in 1.12 (right issue) and previously own 6 lots in 7.01 (esos). So when I wanna sell it, can I choose to sell the 1.12 one, dun wan to sell the 7.01 ( cos is RUGI )? or it have to calculate like that ----> [ (7.01x6)+(1.12x9) ]/ 15 = 3.476 per lot , sell it in average price?
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Axiata is very strong today. Not too sure about tomorrow as i believe the selling pressure will be very high before the RI. biggrin.gif
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Hi just a quickie, I just sold my AXIATA 1 lot @ 1.90 today (9th April 2009).

I am still entitled for the 5:4 ratio share right, since the ex-date is yesterday?

Meaning on 10th April 2009 (which is the entitlement date) I should have 800 shares right? (1000/5 x4)



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Hi just a quickie, I just sold my AXIATA 1 lot @ 1.90 today (9th April 2009).

I am still entitled for the 5:4 ratio share right, since the ex-date is yesterday?

Meaning on 10th April 2009 (which is the entitlement date) I should have 800 shares right? (1000/5 x4)
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I think you are entitled 4 1250 shares for every 4 shares you get 5

1000 divided by 4 x 5
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1250 is odd lots already. if u dont sell it, when the form reach ur door step, i think you can subscribe 1300 to round it up and sure u will get it one. correct me if i m wrong.

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Today this stock not moving much. What happen?
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Today this stock not moving much. What happen?
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People are more cautious in this counter due to the right issue.
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Hmm.. Axiata keeps going down for the past few days with no sign of recovery. hmm.gif
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Hmm.. Axiata keeps going down for the past few days with no sign of recovery.  hmm.gif
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It will further go down once the OR being listed.
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It will further go down once the OR being listed.
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Can explain rationale behind this ? I remember that Cherroy had posted something with regards to Maybank-OR that buyers will choose between the OR and mothershare depending on the price differential. What would be the starting price of the OR ?
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erm.. if buying Axiata.. what price u all think is worth it to enter now?
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erm.. if buying Axiata.. what price u all think is worth it to enter now?
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If at current price is not comfortable to you, buy lower.
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anyone receive the letter for rights yettt?
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will there be any transaction fee for the Right Issue??
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Today closing price is pretty low: RM 1.77

The rights have been issued or what?
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Today closing price is pretty low: RM 1.77

The rights have been issued or what?
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Not yet issue. Maybe tomorrow. I guess we will see Axiata-OR, correct ?
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Not yet issue. Maybe tomorrow. I guess we will see Axiata-OR, correct ?
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This should be automatic for nominee type account right ? Nvm.. tomorrow find out. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(whizzer @ Apr 14 2009, 10:52 PM)
This should be automatic for nominee type account right ? Nvm.. tomorrow find out. rclxub.gif
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holy cow, this is such a shocking share price .. from 8.12 to 1.8 ? absurd ? blink.gif
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holy cow, this is such a shocking share price .. from 8.12  to 1.8 ? absurd ?  blink.gif
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Why shocking ? It is normal in share market. If the company make money and has good forecast, then the stock price will appreciate. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Apr 14 2009, 11:40 PM)
holy cow, this is such a shocking share price .. from 8.12  to 1.8 ? absurd ?  blink.gif
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But not shocking if go from 1.8 to 8.12. biggrin.gif
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guys, what is d price you all estimate for AXIATA tomorrow?

My wild guess is 1.45-1.55, 10-15% discount from yesterday's closing @ 1.77?
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Anybody bought Axiata-OR?

Price has dropped 6.5 cents for the morning session.
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Anybody bought Axiata-OR?

Price has dropped 6.5 cents for the morning session.
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i dont see the AXIATA-OR in my shareportfolio. I m using maybank2u nominee a/c. Is it automatically added ? icon_question.gif
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LAST DONE 0.585, -0.065
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i dont see the AXIATA-OR in my shareportfolio. I m using maybank2u nominee a/c. Is it automatically added ? icon_question.gif
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No problem with my i-trade. I can queue for buying.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 15 2009, 11:07 AM)
No problem with my i-trade. I can queue for buying.
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Its ok now. I can see it. Maybe some delay somewhere. biggrin.gif
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LAST DONE 0.585, -0.065
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AXIATA-OR dropped 9 cents to close at 0.560

Is this an opportunity or what? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 15 2009, 07:48 PM)
AXIATA-OR dropped 9 cents to close at 0.560

Is this an opportunity or what? hmm.gif
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But if you buy today, it will be 0.56 + 1.12 = 1.68. Worth to buy ? The mother share also about 1.7 only!
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 15 2009, 07:49 PM)
But if you buy today, it will be 0.56 + 1.12 = 1.68. Worth to buy ? The mother share also about 1.7 only!
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So, if buy tomorrow, what'll be the price?
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So, if buy tomorrow, what'll be the price?
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Axiata closed at 1.77 today. So the diff if you buy the OR and later subcribe it is about 9cents only. Worth to buy ? I think the OR will drop further in these few days. Just wait and see. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 15 2009, 08:05 PM)
Axiata closed at 1.77 today. So the diff if you buy the OR and later subcribe it is about 9cents only. Worth to buy ? I think the OR will drop further in these few days. Just wait and see. biggrin.gif
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no, I just looking @ it. Not buying. Q at 50c today. Hope it hit the magic 50c or lower, let's look how it goes tomorow. Dow Jones looking good BTW
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no, I just looking @ it. Not buying. Q at 50c today. Hope it hit the magic 50c or lower, let's look how it goes tomorow. Dow Jones looking good BTW
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Not too sure why this counter drop that much! I believe it will drop again tomorrow!
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 16 2009, 12:32 AM)
Not too sure why this counter drop that much! I believe it will drop again tomorrow!
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Can someone help me on this TMI/Axiata?

i initially have bought 2 lots TMI quite a while back i think early last year at rm5.99 .. so i had invested almost rm12k.. but now the price of shares have gone down so much to RM1+ .. so looks like im at losing ends here..

i dont understand much about stocks.. demerger.. TMi to Axiata.. issues rights etc.. i bought last time as part of TM ESOS.. so suddenly it got demerged to TM.. n now to Axiata.. but my cost was at RM5.99 i think.. when the demerger..

Can someone kindly advise.. what do i do.. with this 2 lots? should i just wait.. for hope it will go back up.. or should i just sell now.. n bear the lost.. rather than.. it became more lossed later on.. any advise is truly2 appreciated.. as i really dont know whats going on with the stock market etc.. n have very minimal experience..

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when is the last day for OR?
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Axiata reached @ 1.850 today. Congrats to those that bought it near @ 1.770. thumbup.gif
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when is the last day for OR?
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Should be next Wed.
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Should be next Wed.
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I hv not receive my OR forms yet. Anyone get it or do we get it after next Wed.

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I hv not receive my OR forms yet. Anyone get it or do we get it after next Wed.
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Do you mean letter of Right Issue? hmm.gif I haven't got mine too, anybody got it yet??
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QUOTE(DewRina @ Apr 16 2009, 10:33 AM)
Can someone help me on this TMI/Axiata?

i initially have bought 2 lots TMI quite a while back i think early last year at rm5.99  .. so i had invested almost rm12k.. but now the price of shares have gone down so much to RM1+ .. so looks like im at losing ends here..

i dont understand much about stocks.. demerger.. TMi to Axiata..  issues rights etc.. i bought last time as part of TM ESOS.. so suddenly it got demerged to TM.. n now to Axiata.. but my cost was at RM5.99 i think.. when the demerger..

Can someone kindly advise.. what do i do.. with this 2 lots? should i just wait.. for hope it will go back up.. or should i just sell now.. n bear the lost.. rather than.. it became more lossed later on.. any advise is truly2 appreciated.. as i really dont know whats going on with the stock market etc.. n have very minimal experience..

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wow..... it seems to be too late to take any action now hmm.gif
1st thing for u 2 consider now: to subscribe the rights issue or not?

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wow..... it seems to be too late to take any action now  hmm.gif
1st thing for u 2 consider now: to subscribe the rights issue or not?
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I think it is good to subcribe the right.
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I think it is good to subcribe the right.
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If you don't intent to fork out more money, you can sell of your rights. Otherwise, if you don't do anything, your rights will disappear.
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a few noobs question

1) the press media said that right issue is at the price of RM1.12 but why Axiata-or price is listed at 0.600++ now? is the same thing or different thing?

2) if we bought the axiata-or so end up what will happen? meaning that we can own the share in RM1.12 or RM0.600++ instead of Axiata RM1.700++ ?

pls advice, cos I cant found the answer from google.

And I got this email from my HR----->


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Ruj Kami : GHCM 1140/Circular/2009
10 April 2009

PEKELILING GROUP HUMAN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT NO: 4/2009 (3)

TERBITAN HAK SAHAM AXIATA GROUP BERHAD (SEBELUM INI DIKENALI SEBAGAI TM
INTERNATIONAL BERHAD) (AXIATA)

Seperti yang anda sedia maklum, Axiata Group Berhad baru-baru ini telah
mengumumkan pemberian ‘Terbitan Hak’ (Terbitan Hak Saham Axiata) kepada
pemegang saham yang layak. Berikut adalah maklumat berkaitan dengan
Terbitan Hak tersebut:

<See Attachment 1.bmp>

Hasil daripada Terbitan Hak Saham Axiata, sekiranya anda mempunyai
pegangan opsyen saham Axiata yang belum dilunaskan melalui tawaran opsyen
saham kakitangan khas TM (ESOS) (Tawaran Saham Axiata), pengubahsuaian
terhadap harga urusniaga opsyen saham dan jumlah saham Axiata yang
ditawarkan akan dilakukan.

PENGUBAHSUAIAN TERHADAP HARGA URUSNIAGA DAN JUMLAH TAWARAN SAHAM AXIATA

Harga urusniaga bagi setiap satu saham Axiata yang ditawarkan (iaitu harga
di mana anda layak untuk menebus saham Axiata) dan bilangan saham tawaran
Axiata (iaitu bilangan saham Axiata yang layak untuk ditebus) akan
diubahsuai berdasarkan formula berikut:

<See Attachment 2.bmp>

Contoh penggunaan formula pengubahsuaian di atas adalah seperti berikut:

(i) sekiranya harga urusniaga lama bagi opsyen saham Axiata adalah RM6.99,
pengubahsuaian terhadap harga urusniaga adalah seperti berikut:

Harga urusniaga yang diubahsuai:

= [RM6.99 x (RM2.61 – RM0.8278)]/RM2.61
= RM4.77

Harap maklum bahawa pengubahsuaian harga urusniaga akan berkuatkuasa pada
tarikh sebelum Terbitan Hak Saham Axiata, iaitu 8 April 2009. Bagi
mengelakkan kekeliruan, pengubahsuaian harga urusniaga bagi tawaran saham
Axiata akan dibundarkan ke 1 sen ke bawah.

(ii) sekiranya jumlah opsyen saham lama Axiata adalah 4,000,
pengubahsuaian terhadap jumlah saham adalah seperti berikut:

Jumlah saham yang diubahsuai:

= [4000 x RM2.61]/[RM2.61 – RM0.8278]
= 5,857 saham Axiata

Harap maklum bahawa pengubahsuaian jumlah akan berkuatkuasa pada tarikh
sebelum Terbitan Hak Saham Axiata, iaitu 8 April 2009. Bagi mengelakkan
kekeliruan, jumlah pengubahsuaian saham Axiata lanjutan dari Terbitan Hak
Saham Axiata yang akan dipindahkan ke akaun anda sekiranya ditebus akan
dibundarkan ke nombor bulat terdekat.

SOALAN-SOALAN LAZIM
S1: BAGAIMANAKAH PENGUBAHSUAIAN DITENTUKAN?
J1: Undang-undang Kecil ESOS Khas membenarkan harga urusniaga dan/atau
bilangan saham Axiata diubahsuai sekiranya ia dilakukan secara adil dan
munasabah dan disahkan oleh auditor luar atau penasihat Syarikat ke
Jawatankuasa Opsyen. Bagi pengubahsuaian ini, ia telah disahkan oleh
penasihat Syarikat, iaitu CIMB Investment Bank Berhad, bahawasanya ia
adalah adil dan munasabah.

Sebagai makluman, Undang-undang Kecil ESOS Khas menyatakan hak terakru ke
atas saham Axiata perlu dikendalikan oleh TM ESOS Management Sdn Bhd
(pemegang amanah bagi ESOS Khas). Justeru itu, pengubahsuaian yang telah
diluluskan oleh Lembaga Pengarah telah mengambilkira nilai saham Axiata
yang belum dilunaskan.

S2: APAKAH TINDAKAN YANG PERLU SAYA AMBIL LANJUTAN DARI PENGUBAHSUAIAN INI?
J2: Bagi saham Axiata yang belum dilunas, tiada apa-apa tindakan yang
perlu diambil. Sekiranya anda adalah pemegang saham Axiata (saham Axiata
telah ditebus) dan mempunyai sebarang keraguan, anda boleh berhubung
dengan broker saham, pengurus bank, akauntan atau mana-mana penasihat
profesional untuk khidmat nasihat.

S3: BAGAIMANA UNTUK SAYA MENGETAHUI HARGA URUSNIAGA YANG TELAH DIUBAHSUAI
DAN TAWARAN SAHAM AXIATA SAYA?
J3: Sila rujuk kepada formula pengubahsuaian seperti di atas untuk
pengiraan pengubahsuaian harga urusniaga bagi setiap satu opsyen saham
Axiata yang ditawarkan (iaitu harga di mana anda layak untuk menebus saham
Axiata) dan pengubahsuaian jumlah opsyen saham Axiata yang ditawarkan
(iaitu bilangan di mana anda layak untuk menebus saham Axiata).

Adalah dimaklumkan bahawa tiada surat tawaranopsyen saham yang baru akan
dikeluarkan. Pekeliling ini adalah untuk memaklumkan tentang
pengubahsuaian terhadap harga urusniaga dan jumlah opsyen saham Axiata
yang ditawarkan.

S4: BAGAIMANAKAH CARA BAGI MELUNASKAN TERBITAN HAK SAHAM AXIATA SAYA? J4:
Anggota yang mempunyai saham Axiata di dalam central depository system
(akaun CDS) pada tarikh kelayakan sahaja yang layak untuk menyertai
tawaran Terbitan Hak Saham Axiata.

Sekiranya anda hanya memegang tawaran opsyen saham Axiata dan bukannya
saham Axiata di dalam akaun CDS pada tarikh kelayakan, maka anda adalah
tidak layak untuk melunaskan Terbitan Hak Saham Axiata.

Adalah dimaklumkan bahawa, sekiranya terdapat sebarang kemusykilan
terhadap isi kandungan pekeliling ini, maka pekeliling di dalam versi
Bahasa Inggeris (seperti yang dilampirkan) akan dirujukan.

Sekiranya anda mempunyai sebarang pertanyaan, sila hubungi En Azman Shah
Mohamad di talian 03-224 2999 (manshah@tm.com.my) atau Pn Nooraizah Hashim
di talian 03-2240 1567 (nooraiza@tm.com.my).

Sekian dan salam hormat.

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QUOTE(fumi @ Apr 17 2009, 10:49 AM)
a few noobs question

1) the press media said that right issue is at the price of RM1.12 but why Axiata-or price is listed at 0.600++ now? is the same thing or different thing?

2) if we bought the axiata-or so end up what will happen? meaning that we can own the share in RM1.12 or RM0.600++ instead of Axiata RM1.700++ ?

pls advice, cos I cant found the answer from google.

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i only can answer u for the no#2...
after u subscribe u will need to pay the OR price + RM1.12... that means if next week the OR price is RM0.65 so u will need to pay [(RM1.12+RM0.65) x units] that u bought...

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So, looks like its better to buy the -OR b'coz the end result is cheaper than AXIATA. Right? hmm.gif
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So, looks like its better to buy the -OR b'coz the end result is cheaper than AXIATA. Right?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Apr 17 2009, 12:38 PM)
i only can answer u for the no#2...
after u subscribe u will need to pay the OR price + RM1.12... that means if next week the OR price is RM0.65 so u will need to pay [(RM1.12+RM0.65) x units] that u bought...

if i m not mistaken lar tongue.gif
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Let me try #1 (if i m wrong.. someone pls correct me notworthy.gif )

The price of RM1.12 is only exclusively available to existing share holders. Its a 4:5 rights issue, meaning that for every 4 existing shares of AXIATA, you are entitled to purchase 5 new shares at special price of RM1.12.

This is also a "renouncible" rights issue which means that if you don't want to buy the share, you can sale the rights to someone else. The value of this rights is OR price, ie. 0.65.

Analogy :-
At the supermarket, you buy 4 bars of soap @ 2.61. However, the supermarket have special "offer" and gives you five special coupon (the OR) which enable you to redeem 5 extra bars of soap @ special price RM1.12.

However, you may decide that you have too many bars of soap already. So you sell the coupon (OR) to your friend. You may discover that at this juncture, all of sudden the price of soap drops drastically (chiefly because now we have too many bars of soap in the market biggrin.gif ). So now soap sells for RM1.83 each. The question you ask yourself is how much should you sell the coupon to your friend. If you sell coupon at 0.65cts, then when he goes to supermarket, he buys the soap at RM1.12. So his cost = cost of coupon (Rm0.65) + cost soap @ special price (RM1.12) = RM1.72.

Compare this if he goes to buy the soap without the coupon, i.e. RM1.83.


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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Apr 17 2009, 02:16 PM)
So, looks like its better to buy the -OR b'coz the end result is cheaper than AXIATA. Right?   hmm.gif
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Again not necessarily so. It depends on your timing on acquiring. If AXIATA price drops & you bought the OR on the high side, you will be paying more then if you get the AXIATA share outright.

e.g. if you bought OR at 0.65 & suddenly the price of AXIATA drops to 1.70. Then in this case, you are paying RM0.65 + RM1.12 = RM1.77 per share. Additional 0.07cts more expensive.

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QUOTE(DewRina @ Apr 16 2009, 10:33 AM)
Can someone help me on this TMI/Axiata?

i initially have bought 2 lots TMI quite a while back i think early last year at rm5.99  .. so i had invested almost rm12k.. but now the price of shares have gone down so much to RM1+ .. so looks like im at losing ends here..

i dont understand much about stocks.. demerger.. TMi to Axiata..  issues rights etc.. i bought last time as part of TM ESOS.. so suddenly it got demerged to TM.. n now to Axiata.. but my cost was at RM5.99 i think.. when the demerger..

Can someone kindly advise.. what do i do.. with this 2 lots? should i just wait.. for hope it will go back up.. or should i just sell now.. n bear the lost.. rather than.. it became more lossed later on.. any advise is truly2 appreciated.. as i really dont know whats going on with the stock market etc.. n have very minimal experience..

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your 2 lots = 2,000 right? I'm not sure if you get your OR.

Assume that you don't have any OR
the best approach is to average down. A lot of sifu here for sure can tell that averaging works. It works for me for few situation previously (especially KNM)

2,000 x 6.00 = 12,000
8,000 x 1.80 = 14,400

10000 @ RM26,400 or RM2.64 per share

Your "nett paper loss" = -8,400
vs your current holding with paper loss of -8,400. You do the math and tell me.

If the share depreciate down say 1.50, buy again +/- 50% of your holding ie 5,000 to average down.

If the share appreciate to 2.xx - your paper loss shrink and so on.

The choice is yours

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This stock has strong support from PNB and EPF, not a worry for long term. Performace should be better in the future.

Just that if you do not average down, doubt it would go back to the same price you bought, not in a very near future.

Again judge your own.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 17 2009, 05:12 PM)
This stock has strong support from PNB and EPF, not a worry for long term. Performace should be better in the future.

Just that if you do not average down, doubt it would go back to the same price you bought, not in a very near future.

Again judge your own.
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Got this below from Edge Article

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Khazanah Nasional Bhd owns 44.51% of TMI. Employees Provident Fund board (EPF) has 15.76%, while Permodalan Nasional Bhd’s Amanah Raya Nominees Sdn Bhd holds 8.52%.


This means in total 68.79%. Here's my thinking, if I own this much of a company, I am going to try to keep the pricing as stable as possible by buying when the other 31.21% trys to push down the price by selling.

Now my question is how much more can I buy before I am force to take this company private?

There's also seems to a special clause to say that Khazanah is not obligate to take the company private. Doesn't this mean that because there will be less share in market so eventually AXIATA will hit a point whereby the market won't influence the price of the share. Just curious hmm.gif

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Got this below from Edge Article
This means in total 68.79%. Here's my thinking, if I own this much of a company, I am going to try to keep the pricing as stable as possible by buying when the other 31.21% trys to push down the price by selling.

Now my question is how much more can I buy before I am force to take this company private?

There's also seems to a special clause to say that Khazanah is not obligate to take the company private. Doesn't this mean that because there will be less share in market so eventually AXIATA will hit a point whereby the market won't influence the price of the share. Just curious  hmm.gif
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Have you come across PNB and EPF take listed company into private. 80 to 90% holding by a single party.

Plse name a few if you have.

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hi guys, any body need revenue stamp...i have 8pcs extra. want to clear off. sorry off topic.
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hi guys, any body need revenue stamp...i have 8pcs extra. want to clear off. sorry off topic.
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Has anyone receive the Right Letter of offer? Should be sent out by 15 April.

Renounceable rights issue of approximately 4,691.8 million new ordinary shares of RM1.00 each in AXIATA GROUP BERHAD("AXIATA") (“AXIATA Shares”) (“Rights Shares”), on the basis of 5 Rights Shares for every 4 existing AXIATA Shares held by AXIATA’s shareholders whose names appear in AXIATA's Record of Depositors as at 5.00 p.m. on 10 April 2009 ("Entitlement Date") ("Entitled Shareholders"), at an issue price of RM1.12 per Rights Share ("Rights Issue").

Further to Listing's Circar No. L/Q: 52840 Of 2009, kindly be advised of the following :

1) The Rights commence of trading : [ 15 April 2009 (REMAIN UNCHANGED]

2) The Date of Despatch of the Prospectus and Provisional Allotment Letter of Offer :
[ 15 April 2009 (REMAIN UNCHANGED]

3) The last day and time for Acceptance, Renunciation and Payment :
[ 29 April 2009 @ 5:00pm (REMAIN UNCHANGED]

4) The Rights cease quotation : [ 22 April 2009 (REMAIN UNCHANGED]

The Stock Short Name, Number and ISIN Code [AXIATA-OR (INSTEAD OF TMI-OR), 6888OR (REMAIN UNCHANGED) and MYL6888OR004 (REMAIN UNCHANGED ] respectively


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The form says to pay either using Banker's Draft / Cashier's Order / Money Order / Postal Order...

Can someone help to confirm which payee name I should put.

I am intending to go to the bank to get he Banker's Draft...


Added on April 18, 2009, 10:02 pmStupid me . It's in the next page...Pay to AXIATA RIGHTS ISSUE ACCOUNT.

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Apr 18 2009, 09:59 PM)
The form says to pay either using Banker's Draft / Cashier's Order / Money Order / Postal Order...

Can someone help to confirm which payee name I should put.

I am intending to go to the bank to get he Banker's Draft...


Added on April 18, 2009, 10:02 pmStupid me . It's in the next page...Pay to AXIATA RIGHTS ISSUE ACCOUNT.
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Nominee account done by nominee bank right ?
Do they still send the rights form ?
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Mayban Nominees gave me a call on Friday regarding the Rights. when told them i want to fully subscribe, all i have to do is to have enough cash in my account by latest 22 april.
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QUOTE(kimmel @ Apr 18 2009, 11:31 PM)
Mayban Nominees gave me a call on Friday regarding the Rights. when told them i want to fully subscribe, all i have to do is to have enough cash in my account by latest 22 april.
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Thx. I am using Maybank nominee account too but they didnt call me sad.gif
Will give them a call this Monday.

By the way, whats the fee they charge for processing the "rights" ?


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Mayban Nominees gave me a call on Friday regarding the Rights. when told them i want to fully subscribe, all i have to do is to have enough cash in my account by latest 22 april.
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Yes, you just need to make sure you have enough fund by that date. biggrin.gif
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i got my call last wed. Another surprising thing is that they offered me to buy more. More right issue shares @ 1.12. Can meh? I thought right issue is for right issue only.
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QUOTE(chow_shasha @ Apr 19 2009, 07:57 AM)
i got my call last wed. Another surprising thing is that they offered me to buy more. More right issue shares @ 1.12. Can meh? I thought right issue is for right issue only.
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You can subscribe more but there is no guarantee to get it.

All depends on whether others would subscribe or not.

Judge on the trading of OR right now, there should not a problem on full subscription.

Over subscribe , looks possible in a booming market.


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i got my call last wed. Another surprising thing is that they offered me to buy more. More right issue shares @ 1.12. Can meh? I thought right issue is for right issue only.
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The additional subcription is possible provide nobody want the right. However, no guarantee for you to get it. I got similar call for my Maybank RI. biggrin.gif
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Can make money from there or not?
Right issue at 1.12 current market at 1.7+. Logicaly is can make right?

Corrent me if I am wrong......I am new to this right issue stuff. Tks
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Can make money from there or not?
Right issue at 1.12 current market at 1.7+. Logicaly is can make right?

Corrent me if I am wrong......I am new to this right issue stuff. Tks
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Yes, can make money if you subcribe the right. Not much, about 10% or less. biggrin.gif
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Axiata May Rise; Eyes AKTEL Listing, Assets Sale

0033 GMT [Dow Jones] Axiata Group (6888.KU) may rise to around MYR1.90 from Friday's close at MYR1.83 (+1.1%), traders tip; Malaysian Reserve reports mobile phone operator may consider listing its 70%-owned Bangladesh unit, AKTEL, in 2010. "We will still look at it. It will happen in the next year or two," Axiata's Chief Executive Jamaludin Ibrahim says according to report. Jamaludin adds company open to divesting its non-core assets. "There are two issues here which may pique the interest of investors. In the immediate term, I think asset disposal may be on the cards and this should help buffer the company's balance sheet. The second issue is the potential listing of AKTEL which will help Axiata realize some value in its investment. This may be more attractive for long-term investors," says institutional dealer. (VGB)


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Yes, can make money if you subcribe the right. Not much, about 10% or less. biggrin.gif
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Finally, just got call from Maybank. As I am having odd lots i.e 6.25 lot, they suggest to make to even lot i.e 10 lot. I told them ok. She asked me to bank in RM1132. Seems like there's no extra cost for the 325 OR. I thought I would have to buy 3.75 lot AXIATA-OR at market price to make it to 10 lot (but looks like given for free depending on availability)?

Anyone got similiar case ?

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I am a total noob. So here goes...

No maybank called me, I received a form to fill in. Whther to 'acceptance' or 'to exercise' the rights?
What it is?
To accept is to buy Axiata-or, so pay 60+ cents per share?
To exercise is to buy Axiata, so pay 1.12 plus 60+ cents per share?
Am I right or not?

Let me know if the question sounds stupid blush.gif
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you received RSF. there is a total amount there mentioning on how much you shud pay to subscribe the rights.
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QUOTE(simplety @ Apr 21 2009, 10:05 AM)
I am a total noob. So here goes...

No maybank called me, I received a form to fill in. Whther to 'acceptance' or 'to exercise' the rights?
What it is?
To accept is to buy Axiata-or, so pay 60+ cents per share?
To exercise is to buy Axiata, so pay 1.12 plus 60+ cents per share?
Am I right or not?

Let me know if the question sounds stupid    blush.gif
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It is correct. You bought OR at 60+cents and you need to add additional 1.12 to subcribe the right.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 21 2009, 11:19 AM)
It is correct. You bought OR at 60+cents and you need to add additional 1.12 to subcribe the right.
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Your statement look confuse to me either....

you actually cannot subscribe the right it is your entitlement given to you if you hold TMI shares to the basis of 5:4 or buy the right (TMI-OR) 60+ from the market, in fact you are "exercising" the right (if you still holding TMI-OR) by paying 1.12 to subscribe the share of TMI or you can opt to forego the right by doing nothing.
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anyone dun wan to mail the rights can choose to go axiata registrar office.. tricor..

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Axiata May Rise; Eyes AKTEL Listing, Assets Sale

0033 GMT [Dow Jones] Axiata Group (6888.KU) may rise to around MYR1.90 from Friday's close at MYR1.83 (+1.1%), traders tip; Malaysian Reserve reports mobile phone operator may consider listing its 70%-owned Bangladesh unit, AKTEL, in 2010. "We will still look at it. It will happen in the next year or two," Axiata's Chief Executive Jamaludin Ibrahim says according to report. Jamaludin adds company open to divesting its non-core assets. "There are two issues here which may pique the interest of investors. In the immediate term, I think asset disposal may be on the cards and this should help buffer the company's balance sheet. The second issue is the potential listing of AKTEL which will help Axiata realize some value in its investment. This may be more attractive for long-term investors," says institutional dealer. (VGB)
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I tried to buy OR at 0.68 but did not get it. Is tomorrow the OR still in the list ?
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Rose indeed. Managed to unload all mine @ 1.970 today..  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(whizzer @ Apr 17 2009, 02:56 PM)
Let me try #1 (if i m wrong.. someone pls correct me  notworthy.gif  )

The price of RM1.12 is only exclusively available to existing share holders. Its a 4:5 rights issue, meaning that for every 4 existing shares of AXIATA, you are entitled to purchase 5 new shares at special price of RM1.12.

This is also a "renouncible" rights issue which means that if you don't want to buy the share, you can sale the rights to someone else. The value of this rights is OR price, ie. 0.65.

Analogy :-
At the supermarket, you buy 4 bars of soap @ 2.61. However, the supermarket have special "offer" and gives you five special coupon (the OR) which enable you to redeem 5 extra bars of soap @ special price RM1.12.

However, you may decide that you have too many bars of soap already. So you sell the coupon (OR) to your friend. You may discover that at this juncture, all of sudden the price of soap drops drastically (chiefly because now we have too many bars of soap in the market  biggrin.gif  ).  So now soap sells  for RM1.83 each. The question you ask yourself is how much should you sell the coupon to your friend. If you sell coupon at 0.65cts, then when he goes to supermarket, he buys the soap at RM1.12. So his cost = cost of coupon (Rm0.65) + cost soap @ special price (RM1.12) = RM1.72.

Compare this if he goes to buy the soap without the coupon, i.e. RM1.83.


Added on April 17, 2009, 3:10 pm

Again not necessarily so. It depends on your timing on acquiring. If AXIATA price drops & you bought the OR on the high side, you will be paying more then if you get the AXIATA share outright.

e.g. if you bought OR at 0.65 & suddenly the price of AXIATA drops to 1.70. Then in this case, you are paying RM0.65 + RM1.12 = RM1.77 per share. Additional 0.07cts more expensive.
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rclxms.gif good explaination rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Apr 22 2009, 07:00 AM)
rclxms.gif good explaination rclxms.gif
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Thks. It seems like the value of soap have increase tremendously since that posting. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 21 2009, 09:43 PM)
Short term investor. Making 10% profit is good enough. biggrin.gif
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unloading at 1.97 was good, but today is better biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(taikin @ Apr 22 2009, 10:17 AM)
unloading at 1.97 was good, but today is better biggrin.gif
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Yeap! Today better. Already 2.04 now. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 22 2009, 11:30 AM)
Yeap! Today better. Already 2.04 now. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(whizzer @ Apr 22 2009, 11:35 AM)
Queuing to exit @ 2.09  nod.gif
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That will give you 10% profit ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 22 2009, 11:39 AM)
That will give you 10% profit ? biggrin.gif
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14% or so biggrin.gif but looking at it 2.09 seems a bit optimistic unless there's some more late rally in the afternoon.
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It closed at 1.98 today.
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sorry, noob here
yesterday i bought the OR @ 0.68, where and how to buy the axiata @ 1.12 ?
thanks ~

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sorry, noob here
yesterday i bought the OR @ 0.68, where and how to buy the axiata @ 1.12 ?
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You bought online or through remisier ?
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i bought online thru pbebank
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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 23 2009, 07:41 AM)
i bought online thru pbebank
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Okay. Then your dealer will call you to make sure you have enough money in your trading account. What you need to do is to add in RM1.12 per OR in your account. You dealer will do everything for you.
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gogo axiata!

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Bought AXIATA at 1.99. biggrin.gif Hope to see it go up in the next few days. biggrin.gif
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i just know today is the last day for axiata-or. i have just top-up acc.
when will they process it ?



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I just received the rights printout from Maybank through snail mail. It says to respond by 21 April. This is very late one. Anyway, do I need to sign & send back to them ka? I have confirm via phone already. Also I have top up my share account with the required amount.
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i just know today is the last day for axiata-or. i have just top-up acc.
when will they process it ?
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Normally it will take two weeks. biggrin.gif
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how is the performance today ?
at the end only few hundreds Q at buy
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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 23 2009, 09:06 PM)
how is the performance today ?
at the end only few hundreds Q at buy
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Up down and later up and stay at 2.02 lor! I'm waiting for 2.1! biggrin.gif
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are you short-term inverstor ?

for me i am going to hold another 10 months

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10 months? what is ur target price?
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are you short-term inverstor ?

for me i am going to hold another 10 months
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10 months ? How you know the price will be at the peak ?
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10 months ? How you know the price will be at the peak ?
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Yar. How to predict ? hmm.gif

I exited some AXIATA @ 2.07. Wanted to let go @ 2.09 but too busy in morning to notice the rise after i queued. Oh well... Don't be greedy. smile.gif
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I'm unloading my rock too.. tongue.gif
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Wah.. 2.11 shocking.gif Turn off computer. cry.gif
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i unloaded at 2.10.. not strong enuf for the stress... now feeling better..
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Wah.. 2.11 shocking.gif  Turn off computer. cry.gif
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Unload it too early already.. all done at 2.08 cry.gif
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i am still holding, price per share 1.65... hohohoho
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today i go pbbank share , i asked them how to convert OR to Axiata
they told me i MUST pay cash today, because i don't have fill up the pink form
then i asked them when will convert into axiata , they said normally 1 - 2 months . now made me confusing liao ..
sifu can explain ?
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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 24 2009, 06:46 PM)
today i go pbbank share , i asked them how to convert OR to Axiata
they told me i MUST pay cash today, because i don't have fill up the pink form
then i asked them when will convert into axiata , they said normally 1 - 2 months . now made me confusing liao ..
sifu can explain ?
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Should be 1-2 weeks instead of 1-2months. biggrin.gif
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AXIATA is going repay TM RM 2 bil or 2 mi? Will that affect its price?
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already paid .

AXIATA GROUP BERHAD (FORMERLY KNOWN AS TM INTERNATIONAL BERHAD) ("AXIATA") -
MEDIA RELEASE
We provide hereunder the media release in relation to the loan repayment in
full by Axiata to Telekom Malaysia Berhad.
This announcement is dated 24 April 2009.
You are advised to read the entire contents of the announcement or attachment.
To read the entire contents of the announcement or attachment, please access
the Bursa website at http://www.bursamalaysia.com .



weird thing is end trading, lots ppl Q to buy rather than to sell, which possible push up the price again on next monday .
for my opinion, since AXIATA paid the loan to TM as promised before, showed that there financial is more than enough .
Which possible will attract more investors invest in which previously afraid AXIATA can't pay on time.

next week will be a exciting week since media release effect.
Target price RM 2.40 not a dream next week.

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already paid .

AXIATA GROUP BERHAD (FORMERLY KNOWN AS TM INTERNATIONAL BERHAD) ("AXIATA") -
MEDIA RELEASE
We provide hereunder the media release in relation to the loan repayment in
full by Axiata to Telekom Malaysia Berhad.
This announcement is dated 24 April 2009.
You are advised to read the entire contents of the announcement or attachment.
To read the entire contents of the announcement or attachment, please access
the Bursa website at http://www.bursamalaysia.com .
weird thing is end trading, lots ppl Q to buy rather than to sell, which possible push up the price again on next monday .
for my opinion, since AXIATA paid the loan to TM as promised before, showed that there financial is more than enough .
Which possible will attract more investors invest in which previously afraid AXIATA can't pay on time.

next week will be a exciting week since media release effect.
Target price RM 2.40 not a dream next week.
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TP 2.4 for this counter not a dream ? shocking.gif I will be very happy to see that! biggrin.gif
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worth to buy after right....
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worth to buy after right....
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I tried to buy last week at 1.8x but did not get it.
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i try to buy 100 lots last week but did not get it.
not enough money , hehe
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Normally.. when they announce the paid up.. their share price will drop within a week.. then raise back again.. I'm waiting for the price drop to happen next week.
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Normally.. when they announce the paid up.. their share price will drop within a week.. then raise back again.. I'm waiting for the price drop to happen next week.
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Prior to the announcement which is yesterday, the price should drop but it went up. This is a bit diff and i think it won't drop next week.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 24 2009, 10:28 PM)
TP 2.4 for this counter not a dream ?  shocking.gif I will be very happy to see that! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:27 AM)
Prior to the announcement which is yesterday, the price should drop but it went up. This is a bit diff and i think it won't drop next week.
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Some how I suspect maybe telco's rights issues reflects differently then say Maybank or HSBC. In my opinion, banking industry rights issue is dependent on the sentiments of the financial market. For telcos, they are more defensive in nature and hence if the management make a convincing argument of future profitably, their share would be expected to rise.

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next week not sure will rise or down ,nvm.

as long as it will rise next next week .

hehe

by the way , my Target price is RM4.00 within 10 months

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 25 2009, 02:43 PM)
next week not sure will rise or down ,nvm.

as long as it will rise next next week .

hehe

by the way , my Target price is RM4.00 within 10 months
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If it reached 4, i will earn exactly 100% profit. biggrin.gif
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haha kb2005, bought at RM 2.00?
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QUOTE(taikin @ Apr 25 2009, 08:53 PM)
haha kb2005, bought at RM 2.00?
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Bought at 1.99. Slightly higher than my original target buying price of 1.80. sad.gif
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QUOTE(smartly @ Apr 21 2009, 04:19 PM)
Your statement look confuse to me either....

you actually cannot subscribe the right it is your entitlement given to you if you hold TMI shares to the basis of 5:4 or buy the right (TMI-OR) 60+ from the market, in fact you are "exercising" the right (if you still holding TMI-OR) by paying 1.12 to subscribe the share of TMI or you can opt to forego the right by doing nothing.
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Sorry for login so late... sad.gif
First, I would like to state that I do not have/buy/hold TMI-OR. I only bought 4000 lots of TMI.
So now, means, I pay 1120 x 5 (because RM 1.12 x 5000 free rights?), and I total get 9000 lots Axiata.
Correct or wrong?

Or I pay (1120 X 5) + (600++ X 5), then I get 9000 lots?

I must have sound so noob... but I need all the tai kor's help, more than ever now.. icon_question.gif
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i think u only need to pay 5000 x Rm1.12=RM5600 , because u are existing share holder. no need buy axiata-OR
total u get 9000 units share.


correct me if i am wrong


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
Bought at 1.99. Slightly higher than my original target buying price of 1.80.  sad.gif
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did u buy OR ?

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 25 2009, 11:26 PM)
i think u only need to pay 5000 x Rm1.12=RM5600 , because u are existing share holder.  no need buy axiata-OR
total u get 9000 units share.
correct me if i am wrong


Added on April 25, 2009, 11:47 pm

did u buy OR ?
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Not manage to get it. So, i bought mother share instead.
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anybody here can give TP of this stock?? any FA expert blush.gif
now that already profit, what price to sell before correction coming
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:24 PM)
If it reached 4, i will earn exactly 100% profit. biggrin.gif
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Agree rclxms.gif . This share has a huge huge potential which may accelerate back to RM5.00+ (Not RM8.00+ because of OR effect) once fully recovered from the global financial crisis drool.gif . For long term investor, they may get the share dividens start from 2011. Buy at RM1.79 and hold the share at around RM5.00+ for a long period while getting the dividens from Axiata Group thumbup.gif . Not a bad deal huh?


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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ Apr 26 2009, 12:50 PM)
Agree rclxms.gif . This share has a huge huge potential which may accelerate back to RM5.00+
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if this stock can go up to RM5.00, a Vios is waiting drool.gif
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QUOTE(kimmel @ Apr 26 2009, 11:41 AM)
anybody here can give TP of this stock?? any FA expert  blush.gif
now that already profit, what price to sell before correction coming
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sorry , i think even warren buffet also don't know the future price.
just be a investor rather than speculator , then TP is not an issue already


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QUOTE(kimmel @ Apr 26 2009, 12:07 PM)
if this stock can go up to RM5.00, a Vios is waiting  drool.gif
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wao.. u invested RM 30k ? then u might pay CASH on that time.

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if this stock can go up to RM5.00, a Vios is waiting  drool.gif
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Just if u have extra money, time and patience to wait until the price shoots up to RM5.00+ brows.gif .....if the money is planned for urgent stuffs like buying car or marriage, i would suggest that be a short term investor is a smart choice at this moment
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if this stock can go up to RM5.00, a Vios is waiting  drool.gif
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Wow! You must be holding 100lots or more! biggrin.gif
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Wow! You must be holding 100lots or more! biggrin.gif
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Actually made a bad call initially. went in before the RI announcement, was force to buy the RI as thought gone to holland liao. now average 1.84 per share biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kimmel @ Apr 26 2009, 04:09 PM)
Actually made a bad call initially. went in before the RI announcement, was force to buy the RI as thought gone to holland liao. now average 1.84 per share  biggrin.gif
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Still not bad. Better than my 1.99! 2.1-1.84 = 0.26 or 14% profit on paper. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kimmel @ Apr 26 2009, 04:09 PM)
Actually made a bad call initially. went in before the RI announcement, was force to buy the RI as thought gone to holland liao. now average 1.84 per share  biggrin.gif
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1.84 ? same as mine, after RO convert to mother share.


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 26 2009, 01:45 PM)
Wow! You must be holding 100lots or more! biggrin.gif
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at least 150lots thumbup.gif
richman richman

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 26 2009, 05:45 PM)
1.84 ? same as mine, after RO convert to mother share.


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at least 150lots  thumbup.gif
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You need another 2weeks before you get the mothershare. So, you can't trade within these 2 weeks. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 26 2009, 07:08 PM)
You need another 2weeks before you get the mothershare. So, you can't trade within these 2 weeks. biggrin.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif Yeah!!! That means at least we still have 2 weeks to maximize the gain from the mother share before the OR lot start trading......i believe at that time people will throw most of their OR lots since (2.30-1.72 = 0.58) is good enough for most of the short term investor cry.gif ....does anyone of u agree with this statement or with other opinion?


Added on April 26, 2009, 8:27 pmThe link below is the performance of Maybank share price after going through the OR process.....hopefully the trend of Axiata is similar to Maybank as well sweat.gif

http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/char...105386&p9=2.443

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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ Apr 26 2009, 08:04 PM)
icon_rolleyes.gif Yeah!!! That means at least we still have 2 weeks to maximize the gain from the mother share before the OR lot start trading......i believe at that time people will throw most of their OR lots since (2.30-1.72 = 0.58) is good enough for most of the short term investor cry.gif ....does anyone of u agree with this statement or with other opinion?


Added on April 26, 2009, 8:27 pmThe link below is the performance of Maybank share price after going through the OR process.....hopefully the trend of Axiata is similar to Maybank as well  sweat.gif

http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/char...105386&p9=2.443
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i have a experience with TAANN , which i throw too early
bougth rm2.4, throw at rm 2.80, at that time i have same thinking with u
but now is rm3.30. bit regret .
don't throw when the whole share market is rise. or if u have better choice invest.
for me, throw only when the price drop 5 % from the peak. otherwise, it's just a correction.

for maybank, i think there is hot money from foreign country to support the price.
axiata not sure they interest in or not .

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 26 2009, 09:18 PM)
i have a experience with TAANN , which i throw too early
bougth rm2.4, throw at rm 2.80, at that time i have same thinking with u
but now is rm3.30. bit regret .
don't throw when the whole share market is rise. or if u have better choice invest.
for me, throw only when the price drop 5 % from the peak. otherwise, it's just a correction.

for maybank, i think there is hot money from foreign country to support the price.
axiata not sure they interest in or not .

20cents
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Not sure about the detail of your TAANN case.....however, the Axiata is still looking good at this moment due to local fund support whistling.gif ....i try to search around the Internet but not able to get the information of when the Maybank OR will be converted as mother share rclxub.gif .....does anyone of u know the answer? i believe this information is essential for the Axiata forecast analyze sweat.gif
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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ Apr 26 2009, 09:43 PM)
Not sure about the detail of your TAANN case.....however, the Axiata is still looking good at this moment due to local fund support whistling.gif ....i try to search around the Internet but not able to get the information of when the Maybank OR will be converted as mother share rclxub.gif .....does anyone of u know the answer? i believe this information is essential for the Axiata forecast analyze  sweat.gif
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When the bank dealer asked me to pay for Maybank OR, they told me it will take 2 weeks to covert to mother share. So, i should get it this coming week. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:50 PM)
When the bank dealer asked me to pay for Maybank OR, they told me it will take 2 weeks to covert to mother share. So, i should get it this coming week. biggrin.gif
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u bought maybank also ?
untung kuat kuat . thumbup.gif
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kb2005 is a heavy trader. Sure earn big! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:52 PM)
kb2005 is a heavy trader. Sure earn big! rclxms.gif
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Not earn big lah. I sold too early sometime. A bit regret but can't do anything. For Maybank case, i did gain something as i bought the OR at 1.03 + 2.74. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:55 PM)
Not earn big lah. I sold too early sometime. A bit regret but can't do anything. For Maybank case, i did gain something as i bought the OR at 1.03 + 2.74. biggrin.gif
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MAYBANK-OR expired?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:57 PM)
MAYBANK-OR expired?
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Yes, expired already (only open for a week only). Now in the progress of converting to mother share. I just paid additional 2.74 per share a week ago. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:55 PM)
Not earn big lah. I sold too early sometime. A bit regret but can't do anything. For Maybank case, i did gain something as i bought the OR at 1.03 + 2.74. biggrin.gif
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u full time trader ? i mean can keep sitting front of monitor.


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:59 PM)
Yes, expired already (only open for a week only). Now in the progress of converting to mother share. I just paid additional 2.74 per share a week ago. biggrin.gif
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wa lao .. so rich ...

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 26 2009, 10:00 PM)
u full time trader ? i mean can keep sitting front of monitor.


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wa lao .. so rich ...
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Not full time. Just monitor it when i have time. Normally i will do it from 9-9:15am during breakfast time. biggrin.gif
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If All OR convert to mother share, any inc will occur on the mother share?
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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 26 2009, 09:51 PM)
u bought maybank also ?
untung kuat kuat .  thumbup.gif
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Goldman cuts Axiata target price

URL: http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...102317/Article/
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how come today whole asia market fall.
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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 27 2009, 05:41 PM)
how come today whole asia market fall.
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Pig flu ... swine flu to be the correct one.
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izzit ? never think about that.
but luckily axiata still can tahan the flu
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but luckily axiata still can tahan the flu
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 27 2009, 05:43 PM)
Pig flu ... swine flu to be the correct one.
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Ya, because of flu. I think hotel counters do badly today as the flu will affect tourism. biggrin.gif
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ANNOUNCEMENT OF HEADLINE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS
http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...ments/index.jsp

any sifu give command ?


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 27 2009, 06:54 PM)
Ya, because of flu. I think hotel counters do badly today as the flu will affect tourism. biggrin.gif
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airasia drop 8.0+%
flu really GENG

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ANNOUNCEMENT OF HEADLINE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS
http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...ments/index.jsp

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airasia drop 8.0+%
flu really GENG
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If Airasia drop, how about MAS ?
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MAS dropped 12 cents at RM 3.02
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MAS dropped 12 cents at RM 3.02
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Dear Sifus,
It's me, the noob again... blush.gif
As you know, I have 4000 lots, so I paid 5x 112 to get 9000 lots. Then mou thuin thuin, back called up say, you want some more ar? I asked them, got excess means how??
He reply, you pay RM 1120, you get 1000 lots. But not confirmed get one, dending on availability.

My question is, if I pay RM1120, I will get the mother share? The Axiata? Which is RM 2.10 wor... Means every 1k ++ I pay, I get 2k ++?? Where got so big duck whole road jump one?? Really got ar?? rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(simplety @ Apr 28 2009, 03:00 PM)
Dear Sifus,
  It's me, the noob again... blush.gif
As you know, I have 4000 lots, so I paid 5x 112 to get 9000 lots. Then mou thuin thuin, back called up say, you want some more ar? I asked them, got excess means how??
He reply, you pay RM 1120, you get 1000 lots. But not confirmed get one, dending on availability.

My question is, if I pay RM1120, I will get the mother share? The Axiata? Which is RM 2.10 wor... Means every 1k ++ I pay, I get 2k ++?? Where got so big duck whole road jump one?? Really got ar??  rclxm9.gif
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hohoho~~big oppoturnity to earn money leh brows.gif
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Apr 28 2009, 07:04 PM)
Can Axiata sustain from further drop?
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Based on current situation, it may drop until end of the week.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 28 2009, 08:17 PM)
Based on current situation, it may drop until end of the week.
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It will depend on foreign market situation sweat.gif especially the USA and Hong Kong market.....Correction of KLCI already drops 27 points for 2 days.....hopefully it will stop the drop tomorrow blink.gif
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It will depend on foreign market situation sweat.gif especially the USA and Hong Kong market.....Correction of KLCI already drops 27 points for 2 days.....hopefully it will stop the drop tomorrow blink.gif
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You must be holding a lot of share. I already sold all except Maybank. biggrin.gif
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You must be holding a lot of share. I already sold all except Maybank. biggrin.gif
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how much u sold ?
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how much u sold ?
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Any why not sell of maybank?
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Subject : AXIATA GROUP BERHAD (FORMERLY KNOWN AS TM INTERNATIONAL BERHAD) ("AXIATA") - NOTICE OF SEVENTEENTH ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING ("17TH AGM")

Contents : We wish to announce that the 17th AGM of Axiata will be held at the Grand Ballroom, 1st Floor, Sime Darby Convention Centre, 1A Jalan Bukit Kiara 1, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia on Wednesday, 20 May 2009 at 10.00 a.m. or at any adjournment thereof, for the purpose of considering and, if thought fit, passing with or without modifications, the resolutions set out in the enclosed Notice of AGM.

This announcement is dated 28 April 2009.

URL: http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...DB?OpenDocument
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Just a general announcement on the AGM, right ?

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Just a general announcement on the AGM, right ?
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Axiata took a tumble at 1.96 now. Swine flu also affects telcos? Unbelievable.
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what price wanna buy back agian eh? hmm.gif

i will consider when 1.8x.. how bout u guys?
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what price wanna buy back agian eh? hmm.gif

i will consider when 1.8x.. how bout u guys?
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QUOTE(taikin @ Apr 29 2009, 10:35 AM)
shud have bought to play contra
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I was thinking of that too just now. But now too late! cry.gif
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hahaha yalar! AIYO! sigh...

nvm let's wait..

i guess we are afraid of it dropping suddenly..


Added on April 29, 2009, 5:12 pmtoday the last payment date for axiata rights issue.

so i think tomorrow we will get the shares allocated

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hmm this share worth keeping?
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Yes. This share much more better than any other share at this moment. Due to lowest entry point.
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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Apr 29 2009, 05:32 PM)
hmm this share worth keeping?
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Let the time prove it to you .
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hmm this share worth keeping?
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Why not ?
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Why not ?
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because u betrayed us .. brows.gif

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 29 2009, 08:08 PM)
because u betrayed us ..  brows.gif
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Because i sold off Axiata ? I saw opportunity ma. I was thinking of buying back at 1.96 today. biggrin.gif
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Because i sold off Axiata ? I saw opportunity ma. I was thinking of buying back at 1.96 today. biggrin.gif
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this time buy how many lots ?
100 lots ? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 29 2009, 08:12 PM)
this time buy how many lots ?
100 lots ? thumbup.gif
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Not buying yet. I was waiting but at last the price went up!
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:14 PM)
Not buying yet. I was waiting but at last the price went up!
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should say u going to buy .

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 29 2009, 08:38 PM)
i know...
should say u going to buy .
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rm2.090 now ..

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just sold at rm2.100 this is the third round profit from this stock..hahahah i love AXIATA!!!
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i just wan to ask those who have buy the OR, does the axiata-or is still in your sellable list ?
because i don't see mine
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Why this counter suddently jump from 2.17 to 2.20?
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because someone bought 7607 lots at last minutes.
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7606 lots cost how much in RM?
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7606 lots cost how much in RM?
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RM 1673320 @ rm2.20


Added on April 30, 2009, 11:04 pmHELP !
i am getting confusing now .
the story is like this .

1. i bought 25 lots of axiata
2. few days later , i bought 25lots OR, and also paid rm1.12x2500 to convert to mothershare.
3. today i sold my 25lots axiata, and my OR disappeared in my "sellable list", i check the "settle buy/sell movement history" , axiata-OR contract no. show "trnf out"
4. at the time , i bought another share "A" 50 lots
5. now i check my "sellable list" , the share "A" available quantity became 100 lots.

any sifu here can tell me what happened ?
will i lost my axiata-OR because of mothershare sold ?


CLOSED
Back to 50 lots this morning. should be normal.

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QUOTE(salvationme @ Apr 30 2009, 09:09 PM)
RM 1673320 @ rm2.20


Added on April 30, 2009, 11:04 pmHELP !
i am getting confusing now .
the story is like this .

1. i bought 25 lots of axiata
2. few days later , i bought 25lots OR, and also paid rm1.12x2500 to    convert to mothershare.
3. today i sold my 25lots axiata, and my OR disappeared in my "sellable list", i check the "settle buy/sell movement history" , axiata-OR contract no. show "trnf out"
4. at the time , i bought another share "A" 50 lots
5. now i check my "sellable list" , the share "A" available quantity became 100 lots.

any sifu here can tell me what happened ?
will i lost my axiata-OR because of mothershare sold ?
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hahaha......Salvationme, u sell Axiata too ah rclxms.gif i sold my 15 lots @ RM2.16 too.....quite surprise that it jumps up to RM2.20 last minutes......may be a Mega-rich man plays it like a toy rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ Apr 30 2009, 11:30 PM)
hahaha......Salvationme, u sell Axiata too ah rclxms.gif i sold my 15 lots @ RM2.16 too.....quite surprise that it jumps up to RM2.20 last minutes......may be a Mega-rich man plays it like a toy rclxub.gif
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when the MEGA rich man sell the Axiata which he is holding.. meaning it will drop at least 3 to 4 ticks...
wau.. risky la like that...
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 1 2009, 03:11 AM)
when the MEGA rich man sell the Axiata which he is holding.. meaning it will drop at least 3 to 4 ticks...
wau.. risky la like that...
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as bought at last minutes , i think is to prevent oversell on that day
like this it is really wan to "invest" on the company .
good future .
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Axiata jump more than 20cents in 2 days time. From the lowest of 1.95 to the highest of 2.2 ???
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 1 2009, 03:11 AM)
when the MEGA rich man sell the Axiata which he is holding.. meaning it will drop at least 3 to 4 ticks...
wau.. risky la like that...
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oh....7606 lots (Actually should be 760.6 lots) will not have a big impact to the overall Axiata share performance de whistling.gif ....unless the local fund manager or Goverment especially Khazanah wants to pump up the price la.....i believe the maximum target price at this moment is RM2.25, but which is unlikely to achieve in the next coming Monday because of Dow Jones Index drops -51 points sweat.gif . This share will drop back to RM2.10 very soon and further dropping to around RM1.85 due to OR projects. Please imagine if u buy the OR (0.60+1.12 = RM1.72) and the current price is RM2.10, will u sell the OR share? I think for most of the people the asnwer is YES thumbup.gif . So, lets wait until the share drops back to RM1.85 after OR stabilization and it will be a GOLDEN oppoturnity to get it back at the low price and keep it for long term wub.gif .


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 1 2009, 10:35 AM)
Axiata jump more than 20cents in 2 days time. From the lowest of 1.95 to the highest of 2.2 ???
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hahaha.....kb2005, u miss the best chance to play contra liao brows.gif

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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ May 1 2009, 10:43 AM)
oh....7606 lots (Actually should be 760.6 lots) will not have a big impact to the overall Axiata share performance de whistling.gif ....unless the local fund manager or Goverment especially Khazanah wants to pump up the price la.....i believe the maximum target price at this moment is RM2.25, but which is unlikely to achieve in the next coming Monday because of Dow Jones Index drops -51 points sweat.gif . This share will drop back to RM2.10 very soon and further dropping to around RM1.85 due to OR projects. Please imagine if u buy the OR (0.60+1.12 = RM1.72) and the current price is RM2.10, will u sell the OR share? I think for most of the people the asnwer is YES thumbup.gif . So, lets wait until the share drops back to RM1.85 after OR stabilization and it will be a GOLDEN oppoturnity to get it back at the low price and keep it for long term wub.gif .


Added on May 1, 2009, 10:47 am

hahaha.....kb2005, u miss the best chance to play contra liao  brows.gif
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You're right. I missed a change. Nvm, will try again next week. biggrin.gif
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Did anyone subscribe to Axiata rights? I did and I haven't seen the rights converted to my shares. Have your rights been converted to Axiata Shares?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 1 2009, 06:10 PM)
You're right. I missed a change. Nvm, will try again next week. biggrin.gif
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what a waste you sold early.. are you still holding some?? as my Rights issue also not converted to my account yet.
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wtf axiata rm2.350!!!
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wtf axiata rm2.350!!!
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Didn't expect it to go so high. Any reason for this ? or is it just swept up because of market optimism ?
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Bought @ 2.08 and sold today @ 2.36. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ May 4 2009, 05:11 PM)
Bought @ 2.08 and sold today @ 2.36.  biggrin.gif
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already in my mind to take some share the the NVA still under par adn earning per share is also good. good for entry right now.
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ May 4 2009, 05:20 PM)
already in my mind to take some share the the NVA still under par adn earning per share is also good. good for entry right now.
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ May 4 2009, 05:11 PM)
Bought @ 2.08 and sold today @ 2.36.  biggrin.gif
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wah... blink.gif so fast sold liao...?
i buy same at ur price last monday but i go for long term la rclxms.gif but later if swine flu attack bolehland i think i should sell faster laugh.gif
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ May 4 2009, 06:33 PM)
wah... blink.gif so fast sold liao...?
i buy same at ur price last monday but i go for long term la rclxms.gif but later if swine flu attack bolehland i think i should sell faster laugh.gif
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Ya.. I think enuf.. made some profit already.

If the price do go down (due to profit takings etc), I'll pick up again.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ May 4 2009, 07:24 PM)
Ya.. I think enuf.. made some profit already.

If the price do go down (due to profit takings etc), I'll pick up again..  wink.gif
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Just now 2.40, no one sold?
After so much increase, I just earn 40cents per lot. hmm.gif

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Just now 2.40, no one sold?
After so much increase, I just earn 40cents per lot.  hmm.gif
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40 cents ? wao @@
congratulation.

40cents per lots ? or per unit share ?

if dun have swine flu , axiata already hit 2.40 last week

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40 cents ? wao @@
congratulation.

40cents per lots ? or per unit share ?

if dun have swine flu , axiata already hit 2.40 last week
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QUOTE(simplety @ May 5 2009, 01:37 PM)
Just now 2.40, no one sold?
After so much increase, I just earn 40cents per lot.  hmm.gif
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40cents is good for a short term investor. Already made 20% profit, right ?
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40cents is good for a short term investor. Already made 20% profit, right ?
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Yup yup.... true also... smile.gif 20%
But when I first went in TMI, I was thinking about 3-4 yrs investment (savings). smile.gif
Now a bit gatal want sell, anyway, it's 2.33 now, so not attractive anymore.
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Weaker results ahead for Axiata?

KUALA LUMPUR: HwangDBS Vickers Research has a hold call on Axiata Group at RM2.35 but it expressed concerns that weaker than expected FY09F key performance indicators (KPI) may mean weak 1Q09 results.

It said in a research note on May 6, 2009 that though consensus’ revenue was in line with Axiata’s FY09F KPI of 6%-11% revenue growth, the margin for earnings before interest, taxation, depreciation and amortisation (EBITDA) was higher.

“We downgrade FY09F and FY10F net profit by 6% each, in line with the KPI, following a three percentage point reduction in FY09F revenue growth assumption. Our EBITDA margin assumption is in line.

“Consequently, FY09F returns on equity (ROE) of 5% is slightly higher than Axiata’s 4%, which might be due to difference in lumpy forex loss assumption. Axiata’s weaker than consensus KPI may indicate weak 1Q09 results due later this month,” it said.

HwangDBS Vickers Research said the outlook for Axiata remains uncertain for both domestic and overseas operations. XL in Indonesia was facing competitive pressure, while TMIB in Bangladesh was

expected to continue to incur start-up losses at its pay TV division.

The research house said the war in Sri Lanka continues to disrupt revenue in the affected areas.

“The 4.7 billion new shares arising from its RM5 billion rights issue would be listed on May 11. For comparison, 1% of new shares unloaded in the market would equal 47 million shares; the average daily volume is only 11 million shares,” it said.
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QUOTE(simplety @ May 6 2009, 11:53 AM)
Yup yup.... true also...  smile.gif  20%
But when I first went in TMI, I was thinking about 3-4 yrs investment (savings).  smile.gif
Now a bit gatal want sell, anyway, it's 2.33 now, so not attractive anymore.
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this counter today really sucks mad.gif
my portfolio all counter rose like hell except this vmad.gif
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ May 6 2009, 07:02 PM)
this counter today really sucks mad.gif
my portfolio all counter rose like hell except this vmad.gif
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I don't see it move as fast as other counters. Anyone know why ?
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Maybe EPF control the price tongue.gif
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QUOTE(salvationme @ May 6 2009, 07:41 PM)
Maybe EPF control the price tongue.gif
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Do the above news effect the counter?
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Do the above news effect the counter?
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So, what is your tp ?
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Sorry, you know lar, me not a 'stocks' person. What is TP? I assume you're asking my purchase price?
Started buying at 3.30, then 3.00. then 1.12 ma.
So average is about 2.00 lor...

Yup, this counter very sien. My annjoo bought 1.11, just sold 1.79.
Song, song. smile.gif rclxms.gif
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Sudden Drop in last minute? Why?
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QUOTE(simplety @ May 7 2009, 03:07 PM)
Sorry, you know lar, me not a 'stocks' person. What is TP? I assume you're asking my purchase price?
Started buying at 3.30, then 3.00. then 1.12 ma.
So average is about 2.00 lor...

Yup, this counter very sien. My annjoo bought 1.11, just sold 1.79.
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I meant target selling price. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ May 7 2009, 07:17 PM)
Sudden Drop in last minute? Why?
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ May 7 2009, 08:14 PM)
Ppl start taking profit i guess
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Definitely profit taking. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 7 2009, 07:24 PM)
I meant target selling price. biggrin.gif
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No target one la... rclxub.gif
But that day I tot start from 2.40, I want to slowly sell 3 biji, 3 biji, 3 biji.
But other counter all up, axiata no up. vmad.gif
Me think me want keep until I need money only sell, perhaps 18-24 months from now?
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QUOTE(simplety @ May 8 2009, 01:36 PM)
No target one la...  rclxub.gif
But that day I tot start from 2.40, I want to slowly sell 3 biji, 3 biji, 3 biji.
But other counter all up, axiata no up.  vmad.gif
Me think me want keep until I need money only sell, perhaps 18-24 months from now?
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By that time, maybe the share price is above RM3. biggrin.gif
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sweat.gif phew..! was proceed to sell all my axiata at the opening then suddenly go up i fast fast cancel my order tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 8 2009, 01:41 PM)
By that time, maybe the share price is above RM3. biggrin.gif
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RM 4.70, RM 4.80 icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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sweat.gif phew..! was proceed to sell all my axiata at the opening then suddenly go up i fast fast cancel my order tongue.gif
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So, did you sell it at the end of the day ?
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chilling out until 11 may -> new shares distro
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chilling out until 11 may -> new shares distro
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price will drop when people take profit. Axiata already made with our money, its like getting 2weeks interest free loan when it lock our money.
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QUOTE(kimmel @ May 8 2009, 09:27 PM)
price will drop when people take profit. Axiata already made with our money, its like getting 2weeks interest free loan when it lock our money.
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Why you said so ?
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QUOTE(kimmel @ May 8 2009, 09:27 PM)
price will drop when people take profit. Axiata already made with our money, its like getting 2weeks interest free loan when it lock our money.
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hmm.gif I thought the rights issue adjustment is already factored into the current price. So we will not see big fluctuations. Meaning 11 May announcement is just a formality. Can any one clarify ?

Of course, if the rights are oversubscribed, it reflects confidence in the company or at least thats what the newspaper always says & leading to increase of price or vice versa if undersubscribed (however, I suspect not possible, because khazanah should soak up left overs).

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QUOTE(whizzer @ May 8 2009, 11:43 PM)
hmm.gif  I thought the rights issue adjustment is already factored into the current price. So we will not see big fluctuations. Meaning 11 May announcement is just a formality. Can any one clarify ?

Of course, if the rights are oversubscribed, it reflects confidence in the company or at least thats what the newspaper always says (& leading to increase of price)
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Lets compare Axiata with the Maybank.....Maybank share price is going up all the way recently.....probably Axiata will follow the same trend as well brows.gif Today the stock trade amount of Axiata is very low 84720 which is unusual if compared with normal trade amount ~150k. I believe this is a strong signal that there will be a big fluctuation ahead of us next week. However, i would predict that the Axiata share price will go up instead of a deadly drop since Maybank is one of the good example hmm.gif
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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ May 9 2009, 12:12 AM)
Lets compare Axiata with the Maybank.....Maybank share price is going up all the way recently.....probably Axiata will follow the same trend as well brows.gif  Today the stock trade amount of Axiata is very low 84720 which is unusual if compared with normal trade amount ~150k. I believe this is a strong signal that there will be a big fluctuation ahead of us next week. However, i would predict that the Axiata share price will go up instead of a deadly drop since Maybank is one of the good example  hmm.gif
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For maybank, I think you have to factor in a bit of coincidence. After all, almost all stocks were on the upside & quite a number of them were soaring. So some external factors should be called into play also. Depends on luck & timing.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 8 2009, 11:05 PM)
Why you said so ?
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Axiata took so long to convert the Rights to tradable shares. If could have sold those shares at high of 2.42, lots of good counters to go in now.
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QUOTE(whizzer @ May 9 2009, 12:20 AM)
For maybank, I think you have to factor in a bit of coincidence. After all, almost all stocks were on the upside & quite a number of them were soaring. So some external factors should be called into play also. Depends on luck & timing.
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It is a little bit tricky recently....from 2.02 to 2.20....and then suddenly shoot up to 2.35.....after that all the other stocks went up crazyly but Axiata only went up 3 sen to 2.38....yesterday suddenly drop to 2.30 and even lower this morning 2.25 and finally 2.32......when all the people think that Axiata has no more potential to grow and sell all their stocks, this will be a perfect oppoturnity for Khazanah or EPF to absorb all the stocks and price went up to 2.50 icon_rolleyes.gif and then all the people will shocking.gif huh?? OH MY GOD
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hahah only next week we can trade the issued rights share
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 8 2009, 08:05 PM)
So, did you sell it at the end of the day ?
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of course no lar... still holding smile.gif
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bought axiata at 2.31 on friday.think it will go higher next week.
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QUOTE(taikin @ May 9 2009, 03:16 AM)
hahah only next week we can trade the issued rights share
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More share in the market and people will probably sell it to take profit since they bought it at lower price. biggrin.gif
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lets quess, i say will drop 5% on morning , but ard 4p.m , u will see the price suddenly shoot up . have a look tomorrow smile.gif




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my guess is morning will go up....later in the evening higher..... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 10 2009, 01:39 PM)
More share in the market and people will probably sell it to take profit since they bought it at lower price. biggrin.gif
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Yep.. Was tempted to sell when it reached 2.38 last week, however, the OR still had not converted. tongue.gif
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Those heavy weight will make sure AXIATA price will not panic drop. Should be shu-up further. Else gone la all people will sell off their share.
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tomorrow sure people will take profit in the morning for AXIATA... by 11AM if still no drop then we can go in and grab...
For me tomorrow all fund will be in TM for sure!!!
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hai all...

will axiata share price effected by next week AGM? this week or early next week r the better time to buy? hmm.gif

Pls advice


Added on May 10, 2009, 10:05 pmhai all...

will axiata share price effected by next week AGM? this week or early next week r the better time to buy? hmm.gif

Pls advice


Added on May 10, 2009, 10:05 pmhai all...

will axiata share price effected by next week AGM? this week or early next week r the better time to buy? hmm.gif

Pls advice

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Triple post eh...

Anyway.. Just curious..how come the 2billion paybank to TM doesnt affect the stock much.. compare to the first announcement of the 2B payback, it brought the stock down to below RM2 per share..


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tomorrow sure people will take profit in the morning for AXIATA... by 11AM if still no drop then we can go in and grab...
For me tomorrow all fund will be in TM for sure!!!
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Me too.. what is your target price? RM3.8? or anyprice when the KLSE start trading..

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ May 10 2009, 11:18 PM)
Triple post eh...

Anyway.. Just curious..how come the 2billion paybank to TM doesnt affect the stock much.. compare to the first announcement of the 2B payback, it brought the stock down to below RM2 per share..


Added on May 10, 2009, 11:20 pm

Me too.. what is your target price? RM3.8? or anyprice when the KLSE start trading..
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3.80 should be the right price... if the demand is high then straight buy @ selling price without queue..
TM-CI also got some announcement but dont know what it means... can you help me to futher understand?

PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE NON-COLLATERALISEDEUROPEAN-STYLE CASH SETTLED CALL WARRANTS OVER ORDINARY SHARES OF TELEKOMMALAYSIA BERHAD ("TM") (TM-CI) PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL REPAYMENT TO THESHAREHOLDERS OF TM OF RM0.98 FOR EACH ORDINARY SHARE OF RM1.00 EACH IN TM HELD(TM CAPITAL REPAYMENT)
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which to buy tomorrow? Axiata or TM? once commited into TM, need to have sleepless night till ex-date woh yawn.gif yawn.gif
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QUOTE(kimmel @ May 11 2009, 12:19 AM)
which to buy tomorrow? Axiata or TM? once commited into TM, need to have sleepless night till ex-date woh  yawn.gif  yawn.gif
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very true la... sleepless night lo.. but after ex-date can earn money wo.. not worth it meh?
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QUOTE(kimmel @ May 11 2009, 12:19 AM)
which to buy tomorrow? Axiata or TM? once commited into TM, need to have sleepless night till ex-date woh  yawn.gif  yawn.gif
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I have same dilemma as you.

Cannot make my decision , TM or Axiata?

Like TM, I can only get the money from the CAP Repayment 2-3 weeks later. Then how to use d money to buy back share? That time, TM will fly ahead.
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 11 2009, 01:35 AM)
very true la... sleepless night lo.. but after ex-date can earn money wo.. not worth it meh?
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cannot be that easy money one, after paying divident sure price crash. Dunno what is the true value of TM now, somemore if ngam ngam kena d anticipated correction blink.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 11 2009, 12:39 AM)
I have same dilemma as you.

Cannot make my decision ,  TM or Axiata?

Like TM, I can only get the money from the CAP Repayment 2-3 weeks later. Then how to use d money to buy back share? That time, TM will fly ahead.
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if tomorrow go for Axiata what price should it be after the announcement of the share with 4 share it give you 5 shares and will take effect tomorrow morning... i really blur blur when read the following la... im kinda noob in the share market... kindly advice if possible...


6888 AXIATA AXIATA GROUP BERHAD
AXIATA-Renounceable rights issue of 4,691,752,475 new ordinary shares of RM1.00

each in AXIATA ("Rights Shares") at an issue price of RM1.12 per Rights Share
on the basis of 5 Rights Shares for every 4 existing AXIATA Shares held
("Rights Issue")LISTING'S CIRCULAR NO. L/Q : 53137 OF 2009
Kindly be advised that the abovenamed Company's additional 4,691,752,475 new
ordinary shares of RM1.00 each issued pursuant to the Rights Issue will be
granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 11 May 2009.
Head, Issuers


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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 10 2009, 08:46 PM)
tomorrow sure people will take profit in the morning for AXIATA... by 11AM if still no drop then we can go in and grab...
For me tomorrow all fund will be in TM for sure!!!
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Because this is GLC counters we're talking about - don't we have to take politics into consideration?
As some Sifu say on this thread Mr. Najib Tun Razak (NTR) want to keep certain sections of the population happy.
What better way for us on LYN than to let us make (paper) money?
Of course....NTR won't hold our hands...but seems like someone (NTR) is opening a door and see who steps through. IMHO.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Axiata opens 5c down

KUALA LUMPUR: The share price of Axiata Group opened five sen lower when the new shares from the rights issue were listed on May 11, despite the firmer markets.

The new shares totaled 4.69 billion shares, arising from the conversion of the rights shares of RM1.12 on the basis of five rights shares for every four held,

At 9.01am, Axiata was down five sen to RM2.27. There were 1.1 million shares done.

However, the KLC Composite Index jumped 6.2 points to 1,032.98 at 9.01am. There were 74.66 million shares done valued at RM37.8 million.

URL: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...ns-5c-down.html
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weird, my average down cost is less than what i calculated.. haha almost RM 1 per share after rights issued

can anyone help to explain?
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I hold a lot of axiata share..still hope it going up next week coz of the AGM.

At 1.oopm axiata down 6sen... time to buy??

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I hold a lot of axiata share..still hope it going up next week coz of the AGM.

At 1.oopm axiata down 6sen... time to buy??
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What will the AGM impact the price? Good news? Bad news?

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Hope next week AGM will announced something that can push up the price!
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have anyone axiata-or converted to axiata ?
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have anyone axiata-or converted to axiata ?
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mine Axiata (conversion from right entitlement) is ready for execution since this morning. nod.gif
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mine Axiata (conversion from right entitlement) is ready for execution since this morning.  nod.gif
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ready for execution ?
is that mean can sell already ?
by the way , where to see ?
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QUOTE(salvationme @ May 11 2009, 08:16 PM)
ready for execution ?
is that mean can sell already ?
by the way , where to see ?
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Yes, ready at anytime as u wish to sell...............mine using Maybank2U and is under their sellable list module.....or else u may ask your dealer...they should be able to check for you .....ur axiata right status.
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QUOTE(PassionDreamer @ May 11 2009, 08:07 PM)
mine Axiata (conversion from right entitlement) is ready for execution since this morning.  nod.gif
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You have a lot of the share ? What is your average price ?
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wondering should i sell now, average price 1.65.. or shall i go for long term.. hmm hmm
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wondering should i sell now, average price 1.65.. or shall i go for long term.. hmm hmm
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wondering should i sell now, average price 1.65.. or shall i go for long term.. hmm hmm
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otherwise , just hold
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You have a lot of the share ? What is your average price ?
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hahaha....me just a small fly....average price around 1.7....how about urs? biggrin.gif
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What happen to axiata counter today? transaction volume so low...

Celcom growth/revenue for 1st Q 09 increase 9-10% from 1st Q 08.
Also increase 0.8 - 1% from previous 4Q 08.

my friend told me about this today but don't know they already announce it or not.....

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problem is the international telcos they are owning aren't performing that well
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hmm offload everything already..wait till it go back low n buy back
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QUOTE(taikin @ May 13 2009, 10:54 PM)
problem is the international telcos they are owning aren't performing that well
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ May 14 2009, 10:38 PM)
..and is also a highly geared company
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AXIATA seems bad now.. with a long dark cloud candle..
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When the right issue will finish?
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QUOTE(Joe2009 @ May 16 2009, 12:03 PM)
When the right issue will finish?
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already allocated and sold off already
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QUOTE(taikin @ May 16 2009, 12:14 PM)
already allocated and sold off already
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Thanks. In this case, Axiata should surge in next week. Normally, the share will surge after the right issue sold off.
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ May 14 2009, 11:36 PM)
will keep buying for long term. today PNB and khazanah buy a lot of AXIATA share. maybe for their long term investment to.
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Hi Masterjedi,

How u know the PNB or Khazanah bought a lot of Axiata share.....any reference website or resource?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ May 17 2009, 02:51 AM)
Hi Masterjedi,

How u know the PNB or Khazanah bought a lot of Axiata share.....any reference website or resource?

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ May 17 2009, 10:31 AM)
Be ready for the uptrend.
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and your reason isss???
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once the right share dumped and few day of lelong. It willl ready to climb.
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It was down till 2.10 today but I missed that.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ May 18 2009, 01:24 PM)
It was down till 2.10 today but I missed that..  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ May 18 2009, 01:24 PM)
It was down till 2.10 today but I missed that..  doh.gif
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rclxms.gif CONGRATULATIONS to those who make money from buying Axiata yesterday rclxms.gif
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I was thinking of selling it today. Any idea what is the best tp ? I was think of 2.4 by 5pm today. Any idea ? biggrin.gif
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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...ofit-in-1q.html

Any impact?
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This share will surge to min RM3 and drop after July.
The company is growing, the loss could be caused the huge investment at many countries. After all the investment is done, the company will work like TM. Sit and correct money. Another example is Maxis. I put a buy call if the share drop tomorrow.
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just as i expected this week will be interesting..
this week also our PM will announce 1st Q 09 GDP n i heard that is a bad one...

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QUOTE(sohoo v @ May 19 2009, 07:59 PM)
just as i expected this week will be interesting..
this week also our PM will announce 1st Q 09 GDP n i heard that is a bad one...
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Anything to do with PM announce. He will ensure ALL red turn green.

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QUOTE(Joe2009 @ May 19 2009, 07:21 PM)
This share will surge to min RM3 and drop after July.
The company is growing, the loss could be caused the huge investment at many countries. After all the investment is done, the company will work like TM. Sit and correct money. Another example is Maxis. I put a buy call if the share drop tomorrow.
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Axiata should employ DIGI/Maxis's talent or CEO to improve its marketing strategy brows.gif To be honest, not many people use Celcom line today sweat.gif
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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ May 19 2009, 09:43 PM)
Axiata should employ DIGI/Maxis's talent or CEO to improve its marketing strategy brows.gif To be honest, not many people use Celcom line today  sweat.gif
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The CEO of Axiata is Jamaluddin and he was Maxis ex-CEO
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QUOTE(taikin @ May 19 2009, 09:57 PM)
The CEO of Axiata is Jamaluddin and he was Maxis ex-CEO
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The CEO of Axiata is Jamaluddin and he was Maxis ex-CEO
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He should continue the 3 seconds free call service which was implemented by Maxis several years ago and it successfully builds up the large population of Maxis fans nowadays rclxms.gif ......when a group of people are using Maxis, it is extremely difficult for someone to change the mobile service provider since the Active10 and Friends and Family save a lot !!! hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ May 19 2009, 08:52 PM)
Anything to do with PM announce. He will ensure ALL red turn green.
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Yes, i think he will do that and make sure all green. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(The Last Supper @ May 19 2009, 10:14 PM)
We love GREEN drool.gif  RED please get away  cry.gif
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QUOTE(Joe2009 @ May 19 2009, 11:28 PM)
Red is good at Japan
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Meaning ?
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correction.. GDP will be announce next week..
so this week still can trade happily n make more money!!

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 19 2009, 11:53 PM)
Meaning ?
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Visis here to find your answer
http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/e/fr/tnks/marketlive.aspx

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cleared all axiata @ 2.42 in the afternoon.. damnit naik 2.48 pulak doh.gif
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QUOTE(kimmel @ May 20 2009, 05:35 PM)
cleared all axiata @ 2.42 in the afternoon..  damnit naik 2.48 pulak  doh.gif
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Queued to sell @ 2.49 today. Didn't hit.
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QUOTE(whizzer @ May 20 2009, 07:35 PM)
Queued to sell @ 2.49 today. Didn't hit.
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bcoz tonight tv3 news, this counter still can climb >2.5 tomorrow
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QUOTE(sohoo v @ May 20 2009, 09:03 PM)
bcoz tonight tv3 news, this counter still can climb >2.5 tomorrow
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haah.. u dont see the finance punye people answer want to get more money.. boleh ka? maybe this price been manipulate by khazanah or PNB because their purchase a lot of share anytime can drop back.. the price suddenly naik giler giler. wo...
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ May 20 2009, 09:08 PM)
haah.. u dont see the finance punye people answer want to get more money.. boleh ka? maybe this price been manipulate by khazanah or PNB because their purchase a lot of share anytime can drop back.. the price suddenly naik giler giler. wo...
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up or down, i will sell it tomorrow.. bought at 1.81 ma..! still earn +-60sen/lot. maybe people start to confidence with this group finance. still get a lot of profit after paying TM 2Bil..
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I bought 50lots on Monday at 2.15 and sold all at 2.42 today. Make 0.27 per share which is good for me as a short term investor. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ May 20 2009, 10:08 PM)
haah.. u dont see the finance punye people answer want to get more money.. boleh ka? maybe this price been manipulate by khazanah or PNB because their purchase a lot of share anytime can drop back.. the price suddenly naik giler giler. wo...
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yaloh, this counter if klse red only jatuh giler2.. just 2 days ago can jatuh to 2.10 shocking.gif
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QUOTE(kimmel @ May 20 2009, 11:37 PM)
yaloh, this counter if klse red only jatuh giler2.. just 2 days ago can jatuh to 2.10  shocking.gif
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That's why i bought at 2.15. Should have wait for 2.10. Anyway, i'm satisfied with my T+3 trading. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 21 2009, 12:45 AM)
That's why i bought at 2.15. Should have wait for 2.10. Anyway, i'm satisfied with my T+3 trading. biggrin.gif
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The point is this counter easy up easy down, if got chance better take profit and wait for next drop.
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QUOTE(kimmel @ May 21 2009, 12:11 AM)
The point is this counter easy up easy down, if got chance better take profit and wait for next drop.
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after selling this share, u just wait until it drop again or buy other share?
any favorite counter?


Added on May 21, 2009, 9:45 amyes!!!! already 2.51!!!!


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Maybank, OSK and few others rated AXIATA as SELL with a TP somewhere around RM2.10...

But the stock price seem to go the opposite direction.. :$

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Pity those panic buying above 2.50.. news of Axiata issuing Right Issue for their indonesia excel also can make people excited kah rclxub.gif
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already upload at 2.54. try 2.58 but late several minute...
very satisfied with this trading.... can go enjoy for a week now...
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lots ppl unload already , so do i
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Why unload?
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for me is because me targeting others, and just set my TP early morning, mana tahu it really hit it , then kenak sold
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for me, this counter have already hit the highest price for this month..
wait for drop below 2.20 then can buy again...


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?? how u know it is highest price ??
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Bcoz all the good news already announced. The AGM, financial n their future planning.
wait for GDP next week.. i not buying any share until early june.


Added on May 22, 2009, 8:17 amwhat i mean, highest price for this month... next month maybe pickup again

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ May 21 2009, 10:00 AM)
Maybank, OSK and few others rated AXIATA as SELL with a TP somewhere around RM2.10...

But the stock price seem to go the opposite direction.. :$
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It is strange to me as well. It should drop but it went up pulak! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 22 2009, 09:50 PM)
It is strange to me as well. It should drop but it went up pulak! rclxub.gif
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Went up is good la, so I can sell my lots. I don't want to hold it anymore...Need money to buy something... One of the reason this AXIATA share going up is Indonesian currency is rise up for this few days and their AGM/Financial statement... I think so..
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QUOTE(ramblie @ May 22 2009, 09:59 PM)
Went up is good la, so I can sell my lots. I don't want to hold it anymore...Need money to buy something... One of the reason this AXIATA share going up is Indonesian currency is rise up for this few days and their AGM/Financial statement... I think so..
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That is one of the reason. However, their profit is about 90% lower compared to the same quater last year. So, the price shouldn't surge like that. Something is not right here. biggrin.gif
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if lose money, he still mama backup.
once the equipments investment done, their profit could surge 200% or even higher. I got 50lots of 1.92, after the day i sold at 2.07 the share surge about 0.20. but no choice, i moved to other ball.
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QUOTE(Joe2009 @ May 23 2009, 05:37 PM)
if lose money, he still mama backup.
once the equipments investment done, their profit could surge 200% or even higher. I got 50lots of 1.92, after the day i sold at 2.07 the share surge about 0.20. but no choice, i moved to other ball.
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Same as me. I initially have 50lots at 1.99 and sold at 2.11. 2 weeks later, i buy back another 50lots at 2.15 and sold all at 2.42 2 days later. I'm making to make 10% profit. biggrin.gif
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I'm planning to buy 100 lots of Axiata for long term investment biggrin.gif

hopefully wont lose all my hard earn money ...lolz
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EPF is increasing their Axiata share % from 14.27% to 15.50% drool.gif not sure whether this is a good news or bad news......it seems temporary still safe until EPF sells certain amount of their share % cry.gif


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 23 2009, 09:22 PM)
Same as me. I initially have 50lots at 1.99 and sold at 2.11. 2 weeks later, i buy back another 50lots at 2.15 and sold all at 2.42 2 days later.  I'm making to make 10% profit. biggrin.gif
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1 lot 1000 share or 100 share??
if 1000 it take about 100K.. kayo lar...


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1 lot 1000 share or 100 share??
if 1000 it take about 100K.. kayo lar...
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My lot size is 100 not 1000. biggrin.gif
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My lot size is 100 not 1000. biggrin.gif
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then it time to make money...

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so now, what your target counter? hope crude oil drop again then many company related effected..
then it time to make money...
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COP around 60 now. So, O&G counters will be very stable for now.
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QUOTE(kellyC @ May 23 2009, 11:17 PM)
I'm planning to buy 100 lots of Axiata for long term investment biggrin.gif

hopefully wont lose all my hard earn money ...lolz
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If for long term, pls do not touch the share yet, the market will have anothe big drop before it actually recover. sve the money and wait for the opporturnity. it will come very soon. i predict on July/Aug 2009

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QUOTE(Joe2009 @ May 24 2009, 07:00 PM)
If for long term, pls do not touch the share yet, the market will have anothe big drop before it actually recover. sve the money and wait for the opporturnity. it will come very soon. i predict on July/Aug 2009
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Your prediction based on what ?
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Some analysis say no more Big drop will occur.
Some say sign of recovery.
Some say not yet bottom.

So how to do?
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ May 24 2009, 10:49 PM)
Some analysis say no more Big drop will occur.
Some say sign of recovery.
Some say not yet bottom.

So how to do?
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Just wait and see i guess.. sweat.gif
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say that there will be no free fall anymore but the market are still not stabilize yet. i not really sure when our CI at 13xx and how much DJCI that time?

we may just can do some revision from there but now i see our stock are full manipulate by politician. I been in retails market from sometimes and everyone are closing down so the current Ci just a cover up for wat areally happen in our country.
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yeah rclxms.gif selling my share for 2.48 after holding for 1 month rclxms.gif

but weird is somebody wanna buy this counter at 2.48 above open price 2.45 shocking.gif for 700 lots!


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EFM buy in extra 1.2mil share today. i think they will hold the price and continue to buy in the share.
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ May 25 2009, 08:57 AM)
yeah rclxms.gif selling my share for 2.48 after holding for 1 month rclxms.gif

but weird is somebody wanna buy this counter at 2.48 above open price 2.45 shocking.gif for 700 lots!


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QUOTE(! Love Money @ May 25 2009, 08:57 AM)
yeah rclxms.gif selling my share for 2.48 after holding for 1 month rclxms.gif

but weird is somebody wanna buy this counter at 2.48 above open price 2.45 shocking.gif for 700 lots!


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EFM buy in extra 1.2mil share today. i think they will hold the price and continue to buy in the share.
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ May 25 2009, 08:38 PM)
Why? This counter not worth to be purchase?
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doesnt mean not worth but i wan to try other counter...
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Axiata not much moving today. Back to 2.42 (the price i sold last week!) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 26 2009, 10:28 PM)
Axiata not much moving today. Back to 2.42 (the price i sold last week!) biggrin.gif
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Now even worse!!
I only sold 3 units last week @245.
Should have sold more!!
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QUOTE(simplety @ May 28 2009, 04:44 PM)
Now even worse!!
I only sold 3 units last week @245.
Should have sold more!!
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i already said last week that our GDP are very bad and hav direct effect to KLSE.
Good la already sold 3 unit, better then nothing.
Now i'm watching the best share to buy tomorrow or monday.
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Hi All,

Where can i check the EPF real time share trading record? Because www.klse.com.my will only publish the share trading record one week ago and not the latest hmm.gif

Thanks.


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Hi All,

Where can i check the EPF real time share trading record? Because www.klse.com.my will only publish the share trading record one week ago and not the latest  hmm.gif

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by that way than only they can goreng the share ans sell off immediately. All small investor cash will stuck in share market if did not sell the share before EPF.
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I guess the shares involved in is the "Player".
Player that play smart and player that play not so smart.

I assume EPF got great responsibility to make better profit than us, so with the company, it must play a good role so that EPF don't run away into investing another company.

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Citi cuts Axiata to 'sell'

URL: http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 1 2009, 12:49 PM)
Even with this, the share price still up by 10cents today. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 1 2009, 12:49 PM)
In May, EPF prefer to Acquire the Axiata share more much much more than Disposition flex.gif ......predict that the Axiata price will rise up crazyly at the right time drool.gif .....probably after EPF satisfy with the amount of their purchase icon_rolleyes.gif
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Citi outsider. EPF will ensure this counter no drop kau-kau.
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Malaysia boleh ma!!!!
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jun 2 2009, 08:05 PM)
Citi outsider. EPF will ensure this counter no drop kau-kau.
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Why EPF want to do this ?
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citi dun know, maybank also told me to sell my knm
but look at knm yesterday, oil price, story change


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QUOTE(aeronic @ Jun 3 2009, 09:38 PM)
citi dun know, maybank also told me to sell my knm
but look at knm yesterday, oil price, story change
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Don't trust 100%. Your own judgement is important. biggrin.gif
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exactly, furthermore many junior analysts have a lot of theories but don't play the stocks themselves
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Agree agree. rclxms.gif
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how stupid i sold my KNM share twice at 0.445 once and 0.535 once.
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Today AXIATA will fly. I hope.

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...ia-pacific.html
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jun 5 2009, 06:54 AM)
This kind of news also can cause the stock price up ?
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Can anyone comment on AXIATA PE ratio. Good to keep this counter based on this ratio?

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If you have alot of extra cash, invest for long term. maybe 10years later you may not to sell it anymore. smile.gif
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Can anyone comment on AXIATA PE ratio. Good to keep this counter based on this ratio?
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Current PE stood around 30+ a bit high but a good longterm play.
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QUOTE(smartly @ Jun 7 2009, 02:50 PM)
Current PE stood around 30+ a bit high but a good longterm play.
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Hi, Your longteam mean 10 year or 1 year?
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1 year is considered short la, haha correct me if I m wrong. If u find out this company got potential to grow and gaining profit, you will just hold it.
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Hi, Your longteam mean 10 year or 1 year?
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5 years and above. blush.gif
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If hold more than 5 years, better buy and forget it and wake up 5 years later! tongue.gif
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5 year abit too long.


Added on June 13, 2009, 7:51 pmThis counter not moving much lately. What happen? Already 1 month this counter up-down in the same position.

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that means axiata is for invest for long terms...
hope that one days share value will become like DIGI
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QUOTE(Morisato @ Jun 17 2009, 08:42 PM)
that means axiata is for invest for long terms...
hope that one days share value will become like DIGI
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Axiata start to drop for the past few days. Anyone know the reason ?
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Axiata start to drop for the past few days. Anyone know the reason ?
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i bought at 2.40! now 2.28... i also want to know why....

im planning to average down by buying more at 2.20... any adivce for me? smile.gif
i think it still got room to fall..
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QUOTE(mopster @ Jun 17 2009, 10:10 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
i bought at 2.40! now 2.28... i also want to know why....

im planning to average down by buying more at 2.20... any adivce for me? smile.gif
i think it still got room to fall..
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is due to overall market not only just Axiata..
i bought it at 1.80.. and i sure that it will go up again..
now it still between 2.3 to 2.70.. today is the lowers..
long run....
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is due to overall market not only just Axiata..
i bought it at 1.80.. and i sure that it will go up again..
now it still between 2.3 to 2.70.. today is the lowers..
long run....
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Axiata is good for long term. Sure will go up. biggrin.gif
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drop again...aiii~~~~
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so lucky for me rclxms.gif

unloaded last month at 2.48 and then see it dropped like hell to-date...
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I nearly buy at 2.23. biggrin.gif
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I plan to enter next week. Hope the price will be lower.
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I plan to enter next week. Hope the price will be lower.
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Can count me in too especially if the price dip below 2.20 wink.gif

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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Jun 21 2009, 12:31 AM)
Can count me in too especially if the price dip below 2.20  wink.gif
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I was queing at 2.18 for the past 1 week. Not yet reach! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 21 2009, 12:53 PM)
I was queing at 2.18 for the past 1 week. Not yet reach! tongue.gif
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Then queue at 2.19. biggrin.gif
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When drop to 2.20, people will wait for 2.00,
When drop to 1.80, people will wait for 1.60.
When drop below 1.00. All run away.
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jun 21 2009, 02:44 PM)
When drop to 2.20, people will wait for 2.00,
When drop to 1.80, people will wait for 1.60.
When drop below 1.00. All run away.
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Will not run away lah, i will buy more! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 21 2009, 10:40 PM)
Will not run away lah, i will buy more! tongue.gif
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this counter will never go holland one, agreed should keep buy till it rebound.
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so...today is consider cheap liao... so did u guys buy some?
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2.43 now.....
Long term or run? Long term or run? Long term or run? rclxub.gif
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now RM 2.48
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Now 2.53... suddenly cheong pula...
Okie la... if can reach 2.60, me want sell la... dun want long term liao..
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QUOTE(simplety @ Jul 8 2009, 05:23 PM)
Now 2.53... suddenly cheong pula...
Okie la... if can reach 2.60, me want sell la... dun want long term liao..
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I think I let go too.
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hehe, i stay the opposite way, i will enter tomolo!! tongue.gif
if tonite dow jones is up!! biggrin.gif


Added on July 9, 2009, 9:23 amlucky that i didn enetr, now drop 5 cents !! sweat.gif

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No exciting pun today..
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took profit axiata-cb at 0.29, eventhough this counter is still good for long term nod.gif

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I no sell yet...
Just in case the milicom thingy go ahead... maybe cheong cheong cheong to 2.80-2.90? icon_idea.gif rclxms.gif


Added on July 15, 2009, 10:58 amyeah yeah... gogo gogo

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QUOTE(simplety @ Jul 10 2009, 10:05 AM)
I no sell yet...
Just in case the milicom thingy go ahead... maybe cheong cheong cheong to 2.80-2.90? icon_idea.gif  rclxms.gif


Added on July 15, 2009, 10:58 amyeah yeah... gogo gogo
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QUOTE(simplety @ Jul 10 2009, 10:05 AM)
I no sell yet...
Just in case the milicom thingy go ahead... maybe cheong cheong cheong to 2.80-2.90? icon_idea.gif  rclxms.gif


Added on July 15, 2009, 10:58 amyeah yeah... gogo gogo
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reach RM2.87 liow
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Me rich liao lor..
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seem it rise too fast...
dun know reach the top line already or not? would be adjustion time?

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Jul 22 2009, 10:11 PM)
what about TM? Nobody interested?
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there is a thread for TM....
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/662858/+240
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i am selling today...move to another counter,
but axiata sure is a good counter to hold~~~~~~~~~
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Dialog posts 7.7b rupees net loss
The star friday, 14 Aug 2009 , B10 bottom right corner (sorry cant find online version)

Dialog is majority owned by Axiata.
Axiata's PER is already so high, and with some losses, I really dunno how the interim result will be... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 14 2009, 11:43 PM)
Dialog posts 7.7b rupees net loss
The star friday, 14 Aug 2009 , B10 bottom right corner (sorry cant find online version)

Dialog is majority owned by Axiata.
Axiata's PER is already so high, and with some losses, I really dunno how the interim result will be...  hmm.gif
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Ehh....This Dialog is not the Dialog that we owned right?
I already expect Axiata to make loss, just that ppl like to eat nasi goreng more
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 11:48 PM)
Ehh....This Dialog is not the Dialog that we owned right?
I already expect Axiata to make loss, just that ppl like to eat nasi goreng more
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LOL my heart skipped a beat too when i read it "Dialog posts 7.7b rupess net loss"....
then i only i saw the word Axiata.... haha
this is Sri Lanka Telco..

Okie,,, i found the link

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=new...id=aWfDCX4vBQoM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 14 2009, 11:52 PM)
LOL my heart skipped a beat too when i read it "Dialog posts 7.7b rupess net loss"....
then i only i saw the word Axiata.... haha
this is Sri Lanka Telco..
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Wah...you almost cost panic sell for Dialog already tongue.gif
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Heavy selling on AXIATA for the last 2 days.
I will also cash out if it break the RM3.00 support
Any views

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Oct 8 2009, 07:47 AM)
Heavy selling on AXIATA for the last 2 days.
I will also cash out if it break the RM3.00 support
Any views
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That is MAY snapshot, so the TECH ANALYSIS is no longer valid.

OSK?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 8 2009, 08:38 AM)
That is MAY snapshot, so the TECH ANALYSIS is no longer valid.

OSK?
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Dump Axiata now to cut losses unless you are keeping long term.

Due to Maxis relisting, fund managers relocate the fund to balance their portfolio.

Axiata has not issue any dividend since the split from TM, the PE ratio deem high to me and worse that India new regulation on Telco affects earnings from India.
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QUOTE(aed_ee @ Oct 8 2009, 11:19 AM)
Dump Axiata now to cut losses unless you are keeping long term.

Due to Maxis relisting, fund managers relocate the fund to balance their portfolio.

Axiata has not issue any dividend since the split from TM, the PE ratio deem high to me and worse that India new regulation on Telco affects earnings from India.
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Agreed

Last 2 days the big seller come in in the afternoon. after 3.30.




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gomes.
post Oct 15 2009, 05:34 AM

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guys, how did you generate/get those 2 charts that where posted on this page? thanks smile.gif
Morisato
post Oct 15 2009, 09:40 PM

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drop????? ok lah... i collect back....
rosdi1
post Oct 16 2009, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(gomes. @ Oct 15 2009, 05:34 AM)
guys, how did you generate/get those 2 charts that where posted on this page? thanks smile.gif
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I subscribe to OSK188 chart (pay RM120 for 6 months) NextView can also produce the same chart
The comments on chart I use a package call snagit.

(If you want any chart you can PM me , I will try to get it for you)

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