How do you define "money-minded"?

There are mainly 2:
Those who go for materialistic enjoyment
Those who aim financial security for uncertainties in the future

1. You got to check out how many gals are there in this forum

2. You got to check out among all the gals in this forum, how many of them have been through life - married OR at least planning to get married. Those gals who haven't been through this stage will not understand.

Perhaps they just do not want to get into this debate with bunch of guys provide inconvincing statements.

Then you are proved to have misunderstood our stance.

As I said, you may need to re-read the posts earlier on, not too far away from here, starts from page 70 perhaps.

Your ego got hurt?
Prove that with your average pay and "not likely to aim high kind of attitude" can also get a wife and the wife is willing to spend the life time with you, then.

Again, please mind your word. The entire concept of it is as mentioned to Drian.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 8 2009, 05:13 PM

I'm just trying to say, by using monetary of a man has currently and 10 years later, you can tell if he is a potential person to spend the ups and downs in life.

I can't tell how educated he is cos to be success doesn't must have a certificate; I can't tell how convincing his speech is cos to success doesn't must good in sweet talk.

I just want to enphasize a guy who is self-motivated, never cease to give up kind of possitive attitude, will have a fruitful and yielding life (rich) sooner or later. Such a man when he is poor, he is a potential person to be with, and get married when he is capable to feed his wife; another 5 years, he is more capable to able to feed children.

Click to a poor man is ok, but try to stand on a gal's side: she won't want to see his bf always complain to her how bad the work is, lousy customers, bad working environment. Incapable men capable at nothing but bunch of lame execuses; Capable man good in nothing but not cease to aim high and hard-working.

In any event you guys out there are not convinced enough, do come and flame me. I'm right here be waiting for you.

I'm not talking only on her behalf, I'm just telling what a gal actually looking for.

Moorish has been with her ex, financial incapable, for few years yet she dumped him. One of the reasons is very obvious: this man wasn't self-motivated, after years, he remained the same.

Her reply was as below:


Perhaps I'm blessed enough to meet my bf. Meeting him and having him in my life is one of the miracles I've never expected of. That's why I have much convincing stories to share with you guys, attitude of a person indeed makes financial capabiltiy of a man comes true, and thus gives woman security.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 8 2009, 07:07 PM

No. I'm just talking about my views. To those young gals who are still under parents' pampering and protection, they will find me ridiculous.

We don't have to know who he is as long as we are talking about truth.

If I would want to brag, I do not have to post up at moorish's thread.

Will meet you up until your statements and personal forum-attitude convinced me.

seeing you going speechless have no other better words to express yourself and have to apply vulgar words, in fact you are embarrassment to guys.

If I'm the one who doesn't care about man's financial capability, I would have ended up like my cousin sister, married his husband who working as a car technician and her father that paid her wedding dinner and medical fees for her first baby;

If I'm one of the losers, I would have been like another cousin sister who cling on a husband (so to call an average-salary-man), cruelly knocked by her husband. Currently her husband was suspected in transporting drugs. She could have gone for her ex, who is financial capable, nice personality.

So you tell me, marry an average and ended up a life like this, where is the future? Have you thought about the children? The decision you chose is no longer you alone that responsible for the outcome but also your children!

So, you claim that you are an average man, no? But you see the way you flame people here. If you are to prove your view is right, please do share more concrete statements than plain meaningless insulting words. This is only a forum dealing with only words but still can make you go crazy and lose temper at anonymous and strangers, I seriously doubt about how average you are and how much you do really care about your future family.

And yes, I will sure live long.

I also don't know why, too

But then, I ever sent a complaint letter to my college's vice president cos he ignored the facility of computer lab, which lacked of headphones for over 2 months and finally college called me and I met him up at his room face to face. At the end problem solved.

I don't mind they come and pawn me and flame me. Let's have fun!

Poyozer, told you already. Gals who go after financial security is not because they aim for materialistic enjoyment, but for uncertainties in the future.

Salience,

Since when did I flamed you that you are poor, no money? Do quote the statement and if it's my fault, I will apologize.

Please run through the thread before you put your statements here.

Yes, please prove me that I care ONLY money.

Thanks.

p.s: i've just replied Salience and away for awhile, after posted Salience' reply only I see so many of you turned up!

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 8 2009, 11:55 PM

LOL

This is just words, what should I care for? I'm not telling lies and all the scenarios I shared were true.

This is a great chance for me to speed up my typing skill so that I can think fast and type fast!

I hope all of you can prove that I'm wrong. And I hope one day I would regret this mindset grown in my mind since I was secondary school. I seriously do hope so.

So come and prove me that I'm wrong, you all guys who claim that gals look for financial capable men are evil!

Basically, end of the day me and moorish aim for the same thing: financial capability husband.

Yes, I fear uncertainties and that's why I cherish my life very much, I aim high, I studied very hard, I worked very hard; I hope my future husband does the same. You can't ask me to cling on someone who has promised to work hard but after years he can't show any improvements but only complaints, change jobs, criticisms on others, blame the governments, blame the social...

You get me?

You can assume that I'm one of that. But please take off the word "stupid"!

I don't know your occupation and I don't know you in person. The reason why I flamed you was because of the words highlighted in red!


Above this was your first post here. You flamed someone you don't know in person and scolded her "stupid" and "damn".


Again, you didn't even want to share any convincing statements or facts to prove that I'm wrong, instead you were using insulting harsh words!

1. I don't need you to agree with me, but I hope you know how to respect even if you don't agree and you are in anger.
Again, you claimed that I offended you and I misunderstood you that you aren't an average man.
Tell me how can I convinced that I have wronged you? Tell me what else you can defend yourself as an average man by using those vulgar words when you disagree with someone and you are in anger?

2. I do neither interested to share you the stories of my family and friends. My motive is to tell you the real life examples, which I experienced, seen and felt all by myself. Unlike you, you guys who come in and flame me just like a kid, besides showing up the talents of vulgar meaningless words, you don't show a mere knowledge and pursuasive facts that you know about. Don't you know debate is to tell everything about facts? Have you ever participated in debate before?

In fact you are not the first guy came in with such a rude manner. Those "presentable" guys who came in and joined the debate, though they disagree but they have concrete statements and facts such as silverhawk.

You tell me this world is not about me alone that what kind of attitude you are showing up here then?

I don't see the negative side in being able to think fast and type fast.

Why not now? Cos all the things I've been through keep on telling me that !

I have no comment about moorish's idea.
I just know me and her are looking for the same type of man.
Those financial capable men impress me, really.

1. HE Wasn't? Are you kidding? Please go and check out who was the first person that insult people with vulgar words. I thought I have already mentioned the reasons why I flamed him. Did you read the post? Stepping into a thread without any fragment of facts given but plainly vulgar words. I will not respect a person who doesn't know how to respect himself and respect others.

Thanks.

When people response to my posts, I am more than willing to reply. No matter how people dislike me and flame me, I know what does good manner mean.

Mind to estimate the living expenses of a normal family, a husband, a wife and a kid today? Please list them down here and share with us.

YES!

I place money above all. Simply because when I was a kid, I saw how hard my parents been working for the family. I know that money doesn't fall from the sky. You want to survive, you have to work hard and earn yourself and your family a living.

I find no way to see how a man is potential enough to be the leader of a family except from his financial capability. It's only a man who willing to strive hard and work hard bring him to how financial capable is today!

I do not want my parents worry if I and my children have enough food to eat, I don't want cling on my parents to spare me from the wedding day's expenses; I do not want my parents to spend the medical fees for my children; I don't want to burden my parents when I'm already married to a man, who can't afford to afford all these uncertainties. I know a man who truly loves me will not let me and our children starve for better nutritious food, better education, better learning environment and etc, when my name is no longer my given but entitled his surname and my name!

Happy?

Replied. Please read what I have answered sinchro.

Yes i know. The reason why I'm looking for financial security is as mentioned to sinchro above. Go and read.

Why now?
You can neither give me any real life example, kiddi.

Quote me the statement which I have mentioned this.

Have you ever thought of the living expenses of a moderate family?
List me the breakdown here, if you don't mind.

I have already replied. Please read the previous post.
I'm not going to repeat for second time.
i seriously doubt if you do understand where my stance is.

The children are not mine, but his, too.
Are you expect a woman to feed the children while her man is still struggling even to support himself?
Are you looking for a husband like this? I'm gonna send you a great present if you are going to marry such a man.
Have you thought of how much your parents spend for your family? Go and do some research and ask them before you come and question me.
Thanks!

The reason, I have mentioned above. Please read.

Man can bum off me if I betray him and cheat him.

I'm really doubt of the mathematics level of bunch of people here.

Have they really counted a budget of a living expenses for one person and current employee salary report? I'm really doubt.

I'm doubt each of you who are trying to be a hero/heroin, how much you really know what you are talking about!

In that case, I will only response to those who can flame me with a FACT, figure, real life issues.

All posts extended to me with vulgar words and insulting words and unfavourable terms and with no facts will be facepalmed.

Thanks.

This is a man's saying.

Kids out there who can't even afford his/her own living expenses, listen to what a mature man says.

Please find out which statements that I have said Salience is financial incapable.

How much do you know spunkberry? Try to know more about her and then only judge how true her statements are.

Why can't I debate here if I really have things to say?

You are not interested to convince me, then why do you want to debate with me? Do you know the meaning and purpose of a debate?

I'm more than willing to reply your post.

Before I reply you, can you tell me how much you know about my stance?

Thanks.

I'm saying I have fully committed to him on the wedding day, changed my name by adding his surename on mine. Because of that commitment, I have to be there fore him for ups and downs. But I can't be with a man who is not self-motivated and at the end he can't even afford his own living expenses.

If you can't even give me a shit of real life example to prove that your stance is commendable, I have nothing to continue with you.

I will wait for someone who can prove me the real facts so that I will regret one day. But I'm sure that person will NOT be you.

facepalm on you!

Please read my previous posts before putting any assumptions!

Wait until I quoted back what I have posted to you, I will NOT response to you anymore.

Thanks.

facepalm on you again.

Since when I said I need husband's money for my maintenance?

Do i need to tell you my marriage plan and after-marriage plan to you? How many times I am planning to make love with my husband in order to have children? How many times for him to penetrate in me to get a baby boy?

All you have to understand about my statement before flaming me is what I'm actually looking for in a marriage and a capable man. Apparently you are like those streetkids, you never read my posts before flaming me.

Please seperate high-maintenance fees and financial capable man into 2 different cases.

I want him to be financial capable not because I want him to support my personal high-maintenance. Before and after marriage I have my own financial management method for high-maintenance fees.

The reasons why I'm looking for a financial capable man, I have replied as above. Please read.

Spunkberry, I respect you one of the good female forumer who reads others' posts before flaming and contirbuting your great awesome ideas and judgements/comments. Please don't let me repeat to you that you don't read my posts before posting! I'm not going to response you any more if you drive me to the extend that I have to quote my post and reply you!

And have i said if i've become a mother i will not do any houseworks at all?

the definition of "facepalm" isn't within the debate content.

I'm trying to say since you guys want to change my mindset and make me regret, I'm willing to do so. Please give me more facts and real life issues in order to convince me. But none of you actually have done it. NONE of you.

Which means you all are plainly say things out of concrete facts and all are your imagination and I can see are vulgar words, "stupid", damngod, bullshit etc...you name it.

Yes, I'm not going to change my mind simply because even though I'm more than willing avail myself here to let you all flame me, none of you are able to convince me with concrete evidence and statements, including you Spunkberry.

Apparently you can't read between the line.

Thanks for your sacarstic criticism.

It shows that you're not a mature person with compassionate personality. What's the value of your statement when you are teasing people this way?

Your personality gain me no trust to believe that what you're saying is correct.

Read the meaning, not the words!

I'm saying I am not going to tell you the details of my marriage plan as this is not what you should concern about to judge my mindset.

I can't believe you have such a poor comprehenssion skill.

If I want to married for the sake of married, I have already married long long time ago.

You have gained yourself a reward.

Yes, go and study hard, little gal.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Oct 9 2009, 02:17 PM