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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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debbieyss
post Oct 7 2009, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(viper88 @ Oct 7 2009, 05:12 PM)
Lol.. this show how shallow mind u have there.
Sarcastic n childish words? U cant even differentiate to who my word/sentences aiming to. shakehead.gif

A scenario example not necessary must be the same person tat have experienced it, any1 can give their view or opinion if they are given a certain scenario question.. this simple common sense also u phailed to understand or see clearly.

I really dun know how to knock some senses into ur head......  shakehead.gif

Any1 here can help educate this kiddi? laugh.gif
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Sorry viper88, I really find no points from your posts. I prefer to spend time to discuss and debate with 7chai and the rest of them.
Perhaps you may continue to respond to my posts but I will only reply when I find your post has at least a point to discuss or debate about.
Of course, thanks for your criticisms to me.

QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 7 2009, 05:31 PM)
Good choice debbie, nowadays dun trust baby sitter for our baby, and breast milk is very important. Do you know that nowadays education start from first month of babies life?

So best thing to do is we take care of baby fulltime.
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I do not want to put judgement on the baby sitters nowadays.
I just want to nurture my children when they are just born to this world. Breast-feeding and caesarean will always be my duties or dreams that I want to achieve when I become a mother.
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post Oct 7 2009, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(viper88 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:56 PM)
If u feel u r in tat category than too bad la.. If not den shooh.. go play elsewhere.
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treating me as a kid?
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post Oct 7 2009, 10:33 PM

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Moorish, dickson poon didn't mean to make fun of your baby. I can tell from his intention here.

No worries.

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post Oct 7 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Oct 7 2009, 10:35 PM)
Can really be mistaken for making fun of her baby meh?  sad.gif
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The words you applied for her baby here doesn't actually show intention of making fun of her baby but since moorish has had a bad impression on you in the debate earlier on, therefore logically she is now a bit sensitive on the post you put your avatar and her baby's together.

Take it easy, brother.

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post Oct 7 2009, 10:43 PM

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Got to go.

Happy Flaming Debating all!
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post Oct 8 2009, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 08:57 AM)
From your statements, that's how I know about.
So the problem in on me or you ? Since i didn't mean it and u come out with your assumption. Or i shall call that some sort of paranoia ?
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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 7 2009, 12:17 PM)
actually I dont see why earning 5K is not enough for a person, because in the end of the day is not how much u earn but is how much u save, ur lifestyle. of course that kind of earning cant afford a high maintanence galfren, but then which normal guy on earth would like to get a gold digger as a partner beside those play boy ?
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From the bolded part I was told that 5k can't afford a high maintenance gf and therefore this category of "high-maintenance gf" are gold digger. Please see my reply here:

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We are saying gal pursue guys who earn more than 5k.
You said 5k man, and no normal guy can afford a high maintenance gf and gold digger. It means gal who pursue man with more than 5k are gold digger, no?
So have I answered your question? Or I have misunderstood your meaning? Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. 

I have already told you please correct me if I'm wrong. And why would you imply the word "paranoia" on me? Can you tell me the way you implied "paranoia" here is an unfavourable term or commentable term? For me, it's an unfavourable term.

QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 08:57 AM)
Again, you keep on telling the fringe meaning here, which the entire idea I wanted to tell initially isn't here.
WB was aiming high and motivated enough to take the first initiative to invest with his own allowance. Perhaps you should think of how much his motiavation gained him the properties worth more than 60 billions today, by using not more than 10 billions as capital for his first stock investment, rather than pinpointing if investment is a gamble or not.

Is not telling the fringe or no fringe meaning, my main point is, if a Godlike character will lose money then what makes u think small potatoes like us wont lose money ? share market basically is just another type of gamble, and yes, not all people are into gamble.
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Again, lose money or not is not the point here. Who tells you that a motivated guy will never fail? But a man should be motivated enough to face all failures at all time.

Again, I have already mentioned earlier here:
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Different people have different ways to improve. The thing is not "which" way you choose, it's your "personal attitude" that matter. If you have that aim-high personality, you will take initiative and think and find a way out. You get me?


Again, I have already mentioned to you :
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 12:40 PM)
I always believe there's a will, there's a way. If you want to success, give yourself no execuses.
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Apparently I am all the while giving stock market as an example.

QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 08:57 AM)
But since u sounds like having many way to generate money, i think maybe u should picked 1 of those to be your income generator for now and future, wouldnt it be good if u are financially independent instead of too rely on your future husband ?
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Again, I have already mentioned earlier, too:
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 05:21 PM)
I personally will back to working life after marriage but when we have children, I will be a full time housewives feeding my children at least they have attended primary 1.
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 02:58 PM)
It's because of my parents I put high aim for myself to sacrifice my own dream in art industry and work hard and smart in another industry, which I don't have a proper knowledge for the entire industry, climb higher for better income to feed my parents.
And I do encourage gal who wants individual extra material luxury and expenses, go and work and earn money for that, not cling on husband.

What disappoint me is there are some guys have not done their best in career and ask gals to work to bare the family expenses with them so that they can continue to stay at comfort zone.
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Apparently, you DON"T read the posts, you just SEE the posts. Therefore, I don't really have to answer your question but just quoted what I have said earlier to you.
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post Oct 8 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 09:42 AM)
ok 1st, ask ur self are u high maintenance ?

then i use the word paranoia is because from the way i see u seems like think too much/over-sensitive over my this reply. Of course now i know is unfavourable for u, so i hope u dun feel offended by it.  nod.gif
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Yes, I'm high maintenance.
What's your next question to me?

Ya, I know this is one of my problem. You're not the only one that commented me actually, I knew it long time when I was in college. After years of research on my symptoms only I found out that it's because I lack of acknowledgement and support from my family (parents) and therefore every small and tiny words which people said unintentionally, in a general way, I will take them too seriously and negatively.

I'm trying to get rid of it. I hope you won't mind, too. smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2009, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 10:07 AM)
so u mean u spend more than few thousand ringgit for clothes and luxuries stuff every month paying by your boyfren ? thats what i called high maintenance aka gold digger. If u are, then i got nothing to said.
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Hahahaha.... I already known you will ask me these 2 questions!!!
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So here is my reply, repeated for the second time:
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 02:58 PM)
And I do encourage gal who wants individual extra material luxury and expenses, go and work and earn money for that, not cling on husband.
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And I do include boy friend, too.

You are slapping yourself. Please don't simply make assumption which I have never meant it.

QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 10:07 AM)
well, i need u to understand that. Today I am here to learn, discover and understand this kind of so called "money-minded" personality, and of course im not wanted to scratch my face and make things bad here.
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Oh ya, sure.

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post Oct 8 2009, 10:37 AM

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Becaue I replied:
Yes, I'm high maintenance.

Then you replied:
so u mean u spend more than few thousand ringgit for clothes and luxuries stuff every month paying by your boyfren ?

That's why I said you are making assumption.

High maintenance must be a gold digger suck out boy friend's or husband's money?
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post Oct 8 2009, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 10:43 AM)
no no no, there u are mistake. I am not implying that all high maintenance are under gold digger affilation, but the question is to linked with the earlier "would high maintenance gold digger go after a monthly earning 5K guy ?"

so my actual question is, if today u are a high maintenance gold digger, would u go after a monthly eaning 5K guy ?
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I'm high maintenance but I am NOT a gold digger; I will NOT go for a 5K monthly earning guy if he is not self-motivated.

Have I answered your question?
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post Oct 8 2009, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Oct 8 2009, 10:48 AM)
I don't see how you can be high maintenance and not expect your boyfriend to be rich.
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There are many levels of high maintenance.
Spending RM1k per month is high maintenance; RM2k per month is high maintenance, same goes to those who spend RM3k per month etc.
I don't spend beyond my financial ability. I think before I spend.

Secondly, I do expect my boyfriend to be rich 'cos I hope he is able to be the main supporter for our family but expecting him to support my personal maintenance is another case, and I do not cling to my boyfriend or husband for my personal maintenance.
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post Oct 8 2009, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Oct 8 2009, 11:00 AM)
uh. you're either high or low maintenance ... what's all this about "levels"?
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Ok. I get what you want to ask.

So someone tell me "Oh the college's tuition fee is very expensive". What's the level of expensive and cheap?
My point is that: high maintenance is something which is beyond the general expenses. For a normal OL, RM2k per month is considered high maintenance but for a Datin, RM10k per month.

I'm saying I'm high maintenance because I don't go for basic daily needs only. I spend money to groom up myself to look more presentable and tidy, I don't go for normal shopping malls but certain branded clothings for its reliable quality. However, all my expenses on these maintenance, I spend it on my own, according to my ability.

QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 11:01 AM)
Yes, thats what I trying to pull out. When u accuse me saying gals that go after guys who earn more than 5k is gold digger, which i never meant it at all.

Because i never imply that you or moorish are digging gold cause u both choose a rich guy, but in the earlier reply i am only imply that "A 5k monthly earning guy cannot afford/support a high maintenance gold digger" and for gals like u who pay for own luxuries expenses, are u digging your boyfren in the 1st place ? No right.
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I didn't acuse you.

I was saying that from what I understand, you were claiming "a gal who doesn't go for 5k guy = high maintenance gal/gold digger.

Well, thanks for your explaination then.
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post Oct 8 2009, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 8 2009, 11:12 AM)
sorry, the bolded part is your own understanding. is not something come out from myself.

and thats what i called it accuse.
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Ok. My bad.
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post Oct 8 2009, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 8 2009, 11:58 AM)
Guys guys, you are debating with women the wrong way.
You have to use THEIR OWN concept and idea against them to debate with them.
So girls, if you believe that it is ok for a girl to choose a guy based on money and security so a guy CAN ALSO choose a girl based on her looks and how tight her vagina is correct? If one day the girl is old , no longer pretty with all the wrinkles, it's also ok to divorce or dump her correct?
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No! Not again! doh.gif

This statement is already debated and is already over!
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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 8 2009, 01:50 PM)
By the way, we're also way pass about rich will be unfaithful and poor man are saints.
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We are also always "used to" assume that gals going after financial stable guys are lazy/gold digger who cling on guys for financial resources/materialistic; and gals after "average salary man" are good gals.

QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 8 2009, 01:59 PM)
Oh you want to add "love"  into it.OK.
So girls, if you believe that it is ok for a girl to choose a guy based on money, security and LOVE so a guy CAN ALSO choose a girl based on her looks,LOVE and how tight her vagina is correct? If one day the girl is old. no longer pretty with all the wrinkles and the guy NO LONGER LOVES her, it's also ok to divorce or dump her correct? Fair right?

I'm not saying you're wrong in having this criteria for your husband but I'm just reminding you that if you have this criteria, then Guys TOO have a right to have a criteria for the wife.
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If you think you are able to be financial capable, you won't be saying things like this at here.
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post Oct 8 2009, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 8 2009, 02:33 PM)
I am financially capable thank you but you're not answering the question. Is it ok for guys to dump/divorce the girl if they're no longer youthful and young?
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There are 2 categories we are talking about:
1. Pre-existing factors - Born body figure, face shape
2. Existing Factors - Attitudes, personality etc

If you have read my posts previously, my stance is guys who are self-motivated will have a fruitful yielding lifestyle.

But you are here mixed up pre-existing factors and existing factors. In that case, I can also ask you: is it ok if gals dump/divorce their men if they find their bf no longer young and energetic? Why are you taking up those human born natural biological issues which are not genuinely beyond human's control? Why don't you look at those men who are not self-motivated, which is an attitude that you should cultivate since you're conscious and aware about?
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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 8 2009, 03:02 PM)
No they don't. I can't get a yes answer from any of the girls here so how can you say that they acknowledge this fact.
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Because you asked a question in a wrong way.
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post Oct 8 2009, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 8 2009, 03:08 PM)
Well the TS started it with WEALTH standard and NOT attitude,personality. That's why I came up with this question.
is it ok if gals dump/divorce their men if they find their bf no longer young and energetic?

YES if the guy feel the same way about girls too. See, no twisting your questions around smile.gif.
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Yes, you didn't twist my question around.

So you are a man with shallow thought.
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post Oct 8 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 8 2009, 03:23 PM)
Shallow ...haha, the pot calling the kettle black.

Yes yes I'm very shallow, I go only for rich wives and guys who go for poor wives are stupid and immature.  And to those guys who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the father instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.

Yes I'm so shallow. God help me. LOL.
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For your kind perusal:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=29081533
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post Oct 8 2009, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 8 2009, 03:34 PM)
Hello. Dont use office language here. Its inappropriate.
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I lazy to talk to those who claimed himself "financial stable" but poor manner in a forum. Never read before post.

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