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post Mar 28 2009, 08:47 PM

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Girl choosing a rich husband considered shallow
but guy avoiding fat ugly woman is what?

In the end human are selfish, we want the best for ourself... its like the pot calling the kettle black.

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Mar 28 2009, 11:24 PM)
Money can't buy love and love cannot survive without money  laugh.gif
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I fully agree with this quote of yours smile.gif

A lot of people here take things so straight forward without considering the complexity of human, just because I would choose A they prejudge that I'm money minded like a parasite sucking the life out from my husband. But thats not true in reality, I'm thrifty and would rather save money for the children later in life.

I choosed a MYVI instead of CRV, coz i think car is a waste of money buying expensive cars just to show off.
I choosed fake LV instead of the real thing, coz I dun believe in buying a 7K bag, for the purposed of showing off.

I dun mind going shopping on my husbands honda cub thumbup.gif its convenient, now how many chinese girl willing to do that? you tell me.






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post Mar 29 2009, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 04:07 PM)
If you see no wrong in girls being money minded, then don't ever fight for gender equality.  Girls who choose their guys based on money shouldn't complain when their husbands have one affair after another, after all its in our genes to be attracted to pretty young girls.  They will have lost the right to b**** about doing all the cooking, cleaning, child rearing while the husband plays his PS3 all day. 

If money is the criteria for men, then women should shut up, spread their legs and clean the house.
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you;re the type who talk big here only, you dare tell this to your gf or wife (that is even if you do have one) or you musta been badly abuse by your gf thats why all the hate tongue.gif
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post Mar 30 2009, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
You're not understanding me.  I'm the type that believes in equality in all, be it race or gender, hence I do not believe that women should be treated like a sex object or as a cook.  I'm saying that for those women who choose men based on how rich they are, these women do not deserve gender equality, instead they should be treated like how women were treated thousands of years ago.  They should shut up when men are talking, obey when men want sex, and cook when men are hungry. 

I did tell this to my gf, and she agrees with me.  I treat her as an equal and I expect to be treated the same. 

So go on ahead an be proud of choosing a guy based on his cash, but don't you dare complain when he cheats on you with younger sexier girls or when he demands that you shut up and cook.
Women have come a long way from your example of 'thousands of years ago'.   Your suggestion of being proud to choose a man based on how rich they are has just set womenkind back a few decades.   If I were a woman, I'd hate you.
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why do you think only the rich will cheat? are you implying the poorer are all saints?
Money or status cannot judge if the person is bad, they're bad people at all level of life.
I've seen plenty of rich womanizer man but I've also seen plenty of poor womanizer man.
Are you saying marrying a person base truly on love is the sure way?
I've seen plenty who uses this formula ended up in divorce and walk out empty handed.

QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
You're not understanding me.  I'm the type that believes in equality in all, be it race or gender, hence I do If I were a woman, I'd hate you.
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There is no need to hate me, you can choose love for all you want if you're girl, you can struggle feeding the baby all you want, it is your life, I'm not your mom to tell you or convince you what to do. but there is a saying:

if your parents are poor it is not your fault
if you husband is poor it is fully your fault.




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QUOTE(3dassets @ Mar 30 2009, 10:56 AM)
"I dun mind going shopping on my husbands honda cub"

I think not and I ride a motorbike, fine at first because everyone deserves a chance, girls do love a man for who they are, but time will change a person.
Everyone of us here speaks their mind which is good and one day, you may develop a different view or learn from others by experience rather than ego talk.

I am afraid a lot of guys will share my fate, this debate is the sign that the girls become money conscious and the guys have to import wives from less developed neighboring countries like what happen to Singapore. A lady who can survive on their own does not have to service the guy and every man want sex even if they can't afford a marriage, so prostitution will raise so as the demand for porno VCD.

Later, girls to average men are see no touch and lead to social problems that are ever increasing, what goes around comes around, I like to see some constructive solutions than releasing tension alone. What an average man can do to meet the challenge not relying on fate or let nature take its course (extinction), girls should be conscious about financial issue but money minded sounds materialistic and that pisses the average guy. Hopping to marry someone loaded is not because you don't have to work.

To the guys, hard working lead you no where until you work smart, winning a girl's heart is just the beginning and you must be aware of the maintenance costs, we go to school so that we can start somewhere but the school does not teach us how to live a life and forge a contingency plan, most of us came to the real world with an attitude.
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I come from a poor family, and thank god I've never been suck into the lifestyle thingy, chap fan and roti canai is fine with me. I know my hubby in 03, married at 05, and till today we still go sg wang on his bike on the weekend. I seldom shop at MV or KLCC, prices of cloths are too expensive. A lot of my gf will not get caught riding on a honda cub, status and glamour is important to them. Everyone has the right to choose their lifestyle, nothing wrong with that, but I would like to stick to this down to earth habit as I want to pass this down to my children. I dont want them to grow into a world of pride and ego.

I'm thrifty and down to earth but financial stability is still very important. I agree with you on the part, at first the guy would sweet talk you and love grows, you think you can make it with only love as the base and foundation of your rship, but in this world today especially in city, money is more important to sustain a happy rship in long run.

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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 30 2009, 11:59 AM)
You still do not understand.  You are just trying to justify your own money mindedness by assuming beforehand that all men will cheat so might as well take his money before he does.  No one is saying that poor men do not cheat, but what I'm trying to say is that when you choose money over love, you have lost the right to demand a good husband-wife relationship.  Your husband may or may not cheat or treat you like dirt if you choose him based on money, but morally you've already lost, the moment you said your vows to him. 
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From the first post it is obvious both man is head over heal for the girl, so the chances of both gets corrupted later is equal. But you put it as if the rich will change while the poorer one will remain adamant which is not true in real life.

QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 30 2009, 11:59 AM)
If you really are not the materialistic kind but just require a stable husband, I think thats totally fine.  Your topic however is misleading and promotes girls to choose rich guys only.  If I were a girl, my principles would be:

I will only allow a man that is self sustaining as well as capable to give my kids a basic life to marry me.  He need not be rich, need not be able to buy me a Coach bag but he must at least have a steady income and show that he is a responsible person that can get and keep a job.  If I want my kids to have something better than a basic life, I understand that it will be my responsibility as much as his to provide and cater for it, it will not be solely my hubby's responsibility.  This is called gender equality. 

The problem with your view is that you think the husband is duty bound to provide everything while the wife probably just earns her own money to enjoy herself.  A marriage should be a shared responsibility, so if you choose a man based on how rich it is, theres no other name to call you other than a money grabbing whore.  If you choose a man that is proven to be responsible and self sustaining, then its called being realistic.
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Everyone in this world is looking for Mr.Right or Mr.Perfect, I'm not saying this man do not exist but maybe only 0.0001% of girl in this world will get to marry this elusive man. The other 99.999% will have to settle for someone lesser, and here is why give and take have to be weight.

Love is something exciting in the beginning but eventually love subside and reality kicks in, struggling putting dinner on the table is not exactly romantic and will sap the love so quickly like you've been electrocuted.

You talk about equality, do you like to come home to a house clean and tidy, where warm food are cooked and a glass of coffee made for you after dinner?

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post Mar 30 2009, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(twosonsaudio @ Mar 30 2009, 05:03 PM)
Your advise to choose a husband in terms of monetary value is seriously flawed.

So lets say

A. Not very rich. But hardworking, industrious, thrifty, saves every penny, smart in investing, a natural entrepreneur. This category fits a lot of young adults these days.

B. Rich. Drives a sports car, father's a datuk in big time corporation. Holds a managing position in dad's company.

If we follow your advise, I guess you will ask the girl to go for B isnt it? Even if she doesnt love B at all.

Tsk tsk tsk how narrow minded women these days are.

By the way I was the A guy. My fiancee chose me over B. I wonder why eh?
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Well its not a formula, and I never say always go for the richer dude, I've mention many times, everybody has their own standard in terms of rich, for me those who earn above 10k/mth is good enuf. If b4 getting married I've 2 guy chasing me, my hubby and the datuks kids I'll go for my hubby.

Maybe some girls dream is to drive a BMW so they'll probably go for the datuks kid.

I guess you just simple shoot without reading or following this thread.
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post Mar 31 2009, 11:41 AM

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It is not up to us to decide if a man changes his heart, I do not agree with sharing my man if given a choice, but unfortunately I've seen too many man fooling outside. I've seen the poorer man and the richer man womanizing, the consequences of the both

The richer one can still provide for the wife and kids
The poorer one will sweet talk you to work and fend for yourself and the kids while he fend for the one outside.

How many times had I emphasize that the possibility of the rich or poor man womanize or fall out of love after 7 years tying the knots chances are equal ? what makes you think that just becoz you're lovey dovey with your bf and he will remain like that eternally?

If you;ve frens, or relative who had divorce, try to CSI her case, are they not so in love to the point that even parent object they still go ahead and then what happen?

And I'm sure you also have frens or relative who had married the richer or poorer and still going strong too. And so you know the chance are equal.

What makes you think those who are rich isnt enjoying their life? touring europe with their children on school holidays, getting a 1carat diamond ring for your birthday, enjoying your SPA and facial treatment at exclusive place, driving your BMW, having a maid to take care of choir, and shop like crazy with a 300sq/ft walk in wardrobe to fit in all your dress. And dont be fool into thinking that love doesnt exist for the rich man, he is afterall also a man.

Those woman that shed tears everynight are those with husband that are fooling around outside and has fallen out of love and definitely they dun cry because their husband is rich, because the poorer man's chances of this are equal.

Wealth doesnt guarantee happiness but love also do not guarantee happiness, you're again talking on extreme end here.

I'm not trying to change your perception or choice, obviously you can can choose love or whatever, but why insist those who do are wrong or hate them just because you disagree when they dont hate you for your choices? Am I spose to hate and not talk to my fren who had chosen love and got divorce and tell her dai sei?

if you look at the extreme end, you divorce a rich man you still able to get a house or a fat alimony for your kids, when you divorce a poor man you most probably have to even pay the divorce lawyer fee! or some cases haunt by ah long.


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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Mar 31 2009, 11:56 AM)
I LOL at this, I don’t know why. From the way you explain, look like you trying to look down on poor people. Don’t forget you are poor last time. Now I start to lost respect to you again.

I don’t know why poor girls when suddenly become rich, sure act very lansi and look down on the poor. What a shame. Real rich girls (since small) normally don’t have this kind of thinking, because they already bored with materialistic world. And they need something beside the money, which is love.
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I do not look down on poor people as I'm not even a millionaire or close to it, I do not drive a BMW or stay in a bungalow, I do not have maid myself.

But we're debating on the rich and poor wife's chances and the possibility of her future. Because most of you think that marrying a rich man will end up a disaster like as if marrying a poor man is the correct and absolute choice.
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Mar 31 2009, 12:03 PM)
What if I am not think like that? Actually, marrying rich guys is ok. But, the way you explain it is like insulting the poor.
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Because if you open the spoiler "kii"'s theory, mention that marrying a rich man will end up unhappy and most probably disastrous. So this is why I point out what makes you think rich people are unhappy?
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QUOTE(Ghost-Squad @ Mar 31 2009, 10:09 PM)
Remember that money can be gone as fast as u get it. Maybe today u're rich, but it can be totally upside down
the next day. It's not like love, respect and trust.


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Do you know this world got people actually divorce?
If you hang around CC long enuf you see love also can be gone in 60 seconds.


Added on April 1, 2009, 9:31 amyou 2 hackel and jackel seem to think that only rich guys can play and dump some materialistic girls, but there're also plenty of dumb rich guys that some smart materialistic girl had suck the life outta them. brows.gif joking only, the trouble is, no matter how smart a person is be it male or female, when you see tha special person which you fall for immediately, you're slave to him or her. So dun ever think you're smart. there is no escaping unless you're so unfortunate to never meet your dream girl.

So the world is back to equal.

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QUOTE(NiceGuyEddie @ Apr 1 2009, 11:11 AM)
lolita, why are u still in this thread?
what are u trying to prove?
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QUOTE(NiceGuyEddie @ Apr 1 2009, 12:36 PM)
Let them be lah...
they are on the losing end the way i see it...
They just missed an opportunity with a nice guy
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Go out to all the major shopping centre like KLCC, Midvalley, look around, all these places catered for WOMAN! for their shopping needs!!! look at pavillion and starhill.

Now tell me do you think money is not important to girls?
And they're also plenty of nice rich/financial capable guys around who can pampered you better than just sweet empty talks.


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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 1 2009, 01:08 PM)
luxury is a want, not a need. not required to survive.

are modest girls who does not indulge in luxury extinct already?

quoted for truth.
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The existence of all these primary shopping centre proves money is important to girls, and I believe talibans also have female, just because you cannot have it doesnt mean you dont want it. There is also a difference. tongue.gif


Added on April 1, 2009, 1:12 pm
QUOTE(Fruit @ Apr 1 2009, 12:57 PM)
blush.gif moorish, i like ur puppy ~
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thank you biggrin.gif

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post Apr 1 2009, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 1 2009, 01:14 PM)
女人的钱最容易赚
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but the money are fueled by man rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(NiceGuyEddie @ Apr 1 2009, 01:19 PM)
Again, you are wrong.
The existence of these stuff are only to milk stupid and gullible rich c*nts.
Since you mentioned starhill and KLCC, i assume you're talking about designer goods.
The products are no way near what it's worth... they're just priced so high because of the brand.
Everyone wants to get rich quick you know? It's sorta a get-rich-quick scheme.

.... only stupid people go for it, in which case it's wemon...
'cos the money are not from them anyway, so they do not know the value on money.
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so you saying all those people like prime minister, movie director, corp CEOs, lawyers, doctors who drive porsh, ferraris, mercedes, BMW, are all stupid?
All those executive, salesman, clerk who ride honda cub and drive 2nd hand proton are smart?
hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

You're pathetic, but I sympathize your gf more that is if you able to get one rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(NiceGuyEddie @ Apr 1 2009, 01:27 PM)
You cannot compare handbags to cars....
Super cars are not expensive becos of looks only...
They are mostly because of performance...

unlike handbags, the functions are all the same.
And to pay 5 or 6 figures for a handbag? yeah, that's pretty stupid.
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you obviously do not know what is lifestyle, if the world were to follow you we would be back at stoneage. You've probably never seen real money in your life. For those who have 30 million in their account what is spending 7k for a handbag? its only 0.02% of their wealth. Dont just assume people who dresses up with designer cloths or bags are dumb, they do so because they can afford to.



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In the end you can give all your opinion, but you cannot change the world, shopping is synonymous with girls, and shopping needs money. I'm talking in terms of generally woman LOVE shopping. Yes you can give me a few example of who and who or your gf who do not mind being poor. But if you look out at the street, with all the major shopping complex from KLCC catering to the rich to the smaller pudu or komtar or sg wang catering for the lower end, all these places target girls.

Look at facial product frm SK-II to Olay, these are all girls neccesity in life!
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QUOTE(NiceGuyEddie @ Apr 1 2009, 01:42 PM)
For people who can afford, good for them.
There's nothing wrong if that's the case...

But for ppl who can't afford, why go beyond ur means and save up just to buy something which u can do without in the first place?
I'm sure u've heard of bf/gf giving each other designer stuff after few months of ikat perut-ing. It's not like it can change the person's life.
That money would have been better spent elsewhere.

And you wanna talk about people having 30Million in their bank accounts? Ok, here's the problem...
How many people in msia have 30Million? Not a lot...
another question.... How many rich people in msia have 30M in their bank accounts?
Not many at all.... most rich ppl have property over 30M, not cash...

................. and you're telling girls it's ok to be money minded?
How many people are there in Msia? 25Million ?...
ok, for argument's sake... suppose half of that are girls (altho we know this is not true, cos there are more girls than guys, but for arguments' sake... let's set it at 50:50 ratio).... That's 12,500,000 girls............... and you telling them it's ok to be money minded and go for rich guys??
I can honestly tell you you'll be breaking 98% of these girls' hearts when they found out the truth.
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The topic was money is important to girl, and I'm trying to point out to you that, that is the fact of life. You're trying to convince me or whichever girl you're trying to con that this isnt true. Of coz you can quote me Mother teresa disagree with me, but then again I'm sure you're not trying to marry a person like her.

Todays world security = money, be it health, places you stay, schools you go to, places you hangout, jobs you take, the world are slave to money. As mention a thousand times already, how rich, now that is up to individuals taste or appetite.

If money is not important, why do we send our children to extra classes and hope he becomes a doctor or a pilot? why not tell him to go potong susu and live an organic life? why do you work and hope to be promoted? why do you complaint that your salary is never enuf?



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Who doesnt wanna be rich? everyone wanna be rich and that was the whole purpose why we study so hard, work so hard and hope to be somebody one day.

But not everybody makes it in life, the girl who are fortunate to have the chance to marry a rich man, so why not?

The aim is to have a lot of money, but how or what person it changes you is totally a different story, You can be rich but a stuck up or you can be rich but down to earth but unfortunately is not covered in this thread. You've to start your own thread about this topic.

In chinese tradition marriage does not contain just the 2 of you. Marriage you've to think of your kids, your parents and your bro and sister, how it affect their lifes. That is also the reason why you work so hard to make money so you can give the best to your kids.

Anyway for those who think money is not important in marriage definately are those single person or those who had just fallen in love and still in honeymoon mode. Wait till you wake up.

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