my spm result i got 6 A1 including chem and +maths but A2 for bio and other teras non relevant subjects does my chance of getting scholarship is high? i scored 10As

@wreckens15

separation of prescribing and dispensing right definitely 1 of my Q to ask those intend to do pharmacy if i am the interviewer.

just use uncle google (separation of dispensing and prescribing) k. some reading on that topic before your interview should be able to help you.

i have to prepare for my next quiz and i am too lazy to explain.

just a tip for you, Malaysia doesn't practice separation of dispensing and prescribing right.

if you dont understand the word "prescribing" or "dispensing", look up in a dictionary or type " define prescribing " without those " mark in google. a lot of articles uses the word physicians and in malaysia, we call them doctors.

quote from here about one of the disadvantages of our healthcare system:

"the physician has a financial self-interest in “diagnosing” as many conditions as possible, and in exaggerating their seriousness, because he or she can then sell more medications to the patient. Such self-interest directly conflicts with the patient’s interest in obtaining cost-effective medication and avoiding the unnecessary use of medication that may have side-effects."



This post has been edited by jerk: Mar 26 2009, 04:21 PM

its okay just reply when u hv time
i know the definition of dispensing and prescribing
but i dont understand whats the whole sentences actually mean
i tried google maybe i dont search enough
if u hv time pls do explain
thank you for helping me

prescribing, is to give order/instruction on what to use as a treatment of condition.

dispensing, is to prepare and give out the item prescribed.

the doctor to diagnose the condition and prescribe the medicine, and the pharmacist is to dispense to the patient of what is prescribed by the doctor. but in malaysia, because there is no separation of roles, the doctor have the right to dispense as well.

and many pharmacist illegally prescribe AND dispense as well.......

in fact, in some small towns, the pharmacists work like doctors........they have a little consultation room at the back where they will see patients........

umm....may i know how many branches is PHARMACY divided to ..?
3..?
Pharmaceutics...?
Pharmaceutical Sciences..?
Pharmacy practice...?

dude.
have u read my 1st post on 1st page?

aih.
how many times should i explain bout this.


what do u mean by branches?
is it in term of academic reviews or job prospects?

@Deak

i am sure what you need/want to know is all in this thread.

i assume that you didnt read all the previous posts as i had made the effort to search and paste here about area of study of a pharmacy degree (Mar 18 2009) and youngkies had touched on what a pharmacist really do in real world working as a pharmacist (Mar 25 2009).

so, if you are just too lazy to read through some of the previous post, we are too lazy to keep repeating what is already there.

of course not everything is pinned at the first post.

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Added on March 27, 2009, 11:38 pm@wreckens15

i have search a few more article for you but you might not able to understand the term and words they use.

here

here

here

here

here

i didnt read through all the articles so they might not help you much.

wikipedia did cover a little on Separation of prescribing from dispensing as well.

i remember NST last year did cover the Separation of prescribing from dispensing issue for 2 weeks but i couldnt locate the article on their website but one of the article above actually refering to 2 articles in NST which dated 29 March 2008 and 31 March 2008.

lastly, in very very simple words..

diagnose is the doctor telling you what illness you have such as cough and fever.

prescribing is the part where the doctor write something like antibiotic after diagnosed your condition so that the nurse or what-so-ever know what medicine to pack for you.

dispense is the part where you get your medication as prescribed by doctor.

in case you are wondering why pharmacist is not involved or maybe i missed out, doctors in malaysia get to sell medicine. Therefore they are dispensing and not pharmacist.


This post has been edited by jerk: Mar 27 2009, 11:38 PM

i think i read about this
i think its 2
community pharmacist
and pharmacist in science and technology

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Added on March 28, 2009, 8:39 am@jerk
thanks alot u been helping me soo much i will go through all the threads u hv given
i think i hv a little bit knowledge on pharmacy
by the way
anyone hv gone to the interview b4?
do they ask alot about our governemnt as well or maybe social issues?
my sister asked me to find out about the pharmacy club in malaysia
is that relevant and is there such thing?

This post has been edited by wreckens15: Mar 28 2009, 08:39 AM

eh........no lah.......

cough and fever are the symptoms YOU as a patient tells the doctor.......

diagnosis is the the doctor's interpretation of your sign and symptoms to formulate the cause/basis of you symptoms........on which then is treatment decided......

'diagnosing' fever and cough and giving panadol is NOT diagnosis........

@ limeuu

thanks for helping out.

@wreckens15

pharmacy club as in board of pharmacy malaysia under the ministry of health? pharmacy club sound like those club you join in the Uni.

i assume that you are asking about JPA. my friend did told me that you are required to discuss an issue given in a group but i am not sure cause i am certainly didnt try to apply.

i am sure there are threads out there asking about JPA interview. just use the search function.

board of pharmacy malaysia
hahahaa not in the university

only in msia.

simply in 3.

hospital pharmacit

community pharmacist

industrial and academia pharmacist.

@wreckens15

i remembered there was an active thread here talking about dispensing right but i was just too lazy to follow it.

the thread has something like "will pharmacist gain dispensing right" as the title

I thought they divided into 2,
1)Pharmaceutical Science And Technology
2)Clinical And Community Pharmacy

Ok I just want to know what do you think is éasier'pharmacology or pharmacy and which has a broader choice of prospective job?

hi :)

can anyone tell me the pros and cons of studying pharmacy in australia?

what i mentioned is more to career branches.

if you are talking about academic/study categories, i would say:

body anatomy and phsiology

law, ethics and professional in pharmacy practice

chemistry and organic chemistry

drug design, formulation and research

pharmacology

biochemistry

and it varies between university.

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Added on March 30, 2009, 1:24 amwhich is easier, it is difficult to gauge considering it depends on the interest and understanding of the person taking the subject.

i would say pharmacy could be more difficult considering it covers more subjects including pharmacology. but while i was doing the pharmacy course, i found pharmacology module need a lot of memorising and reading, and who do well in biology do have advantage in pharmacology.

broader choice of career, pharmacy will have more.

This post has been edited by youngkies: Mar 30 2009, 01:24 AM

Ah thanks youngkies. That's helpful. It seem pharmacy is a more popular choice with many now. Harder to get into.

@lya

i would ask "why do you choose australia?" before answering your Q because you did not mention other country other than australia

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Added on April 2, 2009, 5:44 pm@crystalyn and lazarus7247

both of you has asked me the same Q.

before i left UCSI last year (december) , i know their pharmacy degree is not recognized by our government yet.

yes, they have provisional accreditation and approval to conduct pharmacy degree but UCSI degree has not appear in the List of Qualifications by Malaysian Ministry of Health, in the first post. so, i would say it is a no, no full accreditation yet.

the last piece of information i received actually did said that they have received full accreditation but i take that as rumor only because UCSI degree is not listed in the List of Qualifications by Malaysian Ministry of Health. i believe (refer to Accreditation info for Malaysia at the first post) first batch of UCSI pharmacy students is out there practicing and FULL ACCREDITATION is on its way.

the lecturers there are good. you can see their qualification on the USCI website. of course not all of them have taught me before but i do not have any major complain over anyone of them. yes, i do prefer certain lecturers because i believe they can teach better compare to others. (all of them can communicate their ideas and knowledge but just like in secondary school, you prefer certain teachers over others)

the facilities you get there is what you can expect from an IPTS. i believe it is still within normal range, nothing to brag or complain about. the only thing i enjoy a lot is the free printing service provided by UCSI, you bring your own paper and print as much as you want. there will be always long queue during peak hours or if one of the printers breakdown.

some of my friends uses the gym and you get free unlimited faster a bit than 56k internet using their quite old computer lab and you get to install msn there and maybe surf sites you shouldnt because i dont think they installed any web filtering. certain pc is infected with trojan and virus, you must have up to date antivirus in your laptop if you used any thumbdrive between their pc and your laptop.

so, i guess i am finished here. leave any further Q here and i will get to it tomorrow

p/s: i would suggest nottingham,monash,HELP-USM,ICT-USM, IMU(only 2+2) pharmacy prog over UCSI. not because UCSI is bad but if you can get a degree recognized by the government, it is better anytime than getting a provisional accredited one.

anything you do, just stay away from INTI diploma and CUCMS. i dont see any reason at all to go for these two

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Added on April 2, 2009, 6:28 pmit seems that there are some confusion over the External Programme Universiti Sains Malaysia by University College Sedaya International which is listed as accredited degree programme.

that is a USM pharmacy degree offered by UCSI. it is not available any more. there is no more intakes into that pharmacy programme since 2007/08.

only ICT still offering usm pharmacy degree or HELP (soon).

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Added on April 3, 2009, 4:23 pmaccording to herehere

What are the requirements for a person to be registered as a pharmacist in Malaysia?

In order to register as a pharmacist in Malaysia, a person must :
a. Possess a degree recognized by the Pharmacy Board of Malaysia
b. Undergo pupilage training not less than a year that is recognized by the Pharmacy Board
c. Pass a Forensic examination conducted by the Pharmacy Board

For a foreigner, additional requirements are:
a. He/she is married to a Malaysian
b. He/she is the spouse of a foreigner working in Malaysia under a valid working permit.
There must also be no restriction in the applicant's own visa

so, i think if condition (a) cant be satisfied, you cant register as a pharmacist in malaysia. i just dont know. so you might only can get involve in industrial sector.

This post has been edited by jerk: Apr 3 2009, 04:23 PM