for your information, pharmacist in malaysia can prescribe OTC (over the counter) and Group C drugs such as antidiabetic, some steroid cream... it's legal.

the counsultation room is not for pharmacist to diagnose or work like doctor. it's for patient education & counseling. eg: how to use inhaler, insulin pen (patient dun like to show their belly infront of many ppl, so have to do it in counseling room).

haha.. i am sure he is well aware of that.

i believe there will be a few bad apples in any career. therefore, i wouldnt say that there wouldnt be any pharmacist try to be a doctor in malaysia. not all pharmacist are like that but maybe just a few.

sorry for the late reply! i didn't notice that you replied to my question
anyway, well.. i've been a silent reader for quite a while and i notice that uk seems to be the leading country to go to for pharmacy. so i was wondering, what about australia? or new zealand? since those are the countries that jpa scholars get sent off to also, hehe.
i hope you don't mind

@lya

i think there are 2 reason why australia is not popular for pharmacy.

first, their intakes period doesnt really suit our country. their major intake is january or february but our STPM result is released only march. so, you will have to wait for another year before you can start studying.

second, no twinning programme going on between malaysia and australia for pharmacy.

it could probably due to mpharm is more attractive or just like youngkies said, pharmacy is more well established over in uk.

normally people choose australia because it is relatively cheaper to do so compare to uk but we have few mpharm 2+2 and the cost for both is around the same.

i have no idea about those in new zealand at all.

i think as long as our government recognised the pharmacy degree, JPA will send you there.

lastly, just apply no matter australia, new zealand or local 2+2. after all, you dont really get to choose where you want to study before the Uni offer you a place.

oh okay, i see. thank you, i really appreciate it
so mpharm is only offered in uk? and not in australia too right?

This post has been edited by lya: Apr 13 2009, 12:53 AM

@lya

undergraduate mpharm degree is only (not 100% sure though) offered in uk.

others has only postgraduate master degree.

This post has been edited by jerk: Apr 13 2009, 01:15 AM

MPharm as the 1st degree is only offered in the UK.

At any other places in the world (I believe), their 1st degree for pharmacy is BPharm, BSc (Pharmacy) or whatsoever. And, their 2nd (which is also the postgraduate) degree, will then be MPharm (or MSc (Pharm) or whatsoever) should they be pursuing the similar field.

In UK, the postgraduate degree is MSc, MRes, MPhil or PhD.

okay, i see. thank you so i guess it would be best to take mpharm rather than bpharm?

@lya

if you can secure a place and have the money, why not.

okay. thanks again for all the help guys!

guys, what is the different between assistant pharmacist and pharmacist??

is it true for diploma holder in pharmacy they can only work as assistant pharmacist only??(infromation I get from UCSI counselor)

@hackcremo

what is the differences between assistant supervisor and a supervisor?

the obvious part would be supervisor in charge of more things and there are some things only can be done by the supervisor etc. this is almost the same for assistant pharmacist and pharmacist.

yes, diploma holder can only be assistant pharmacist. well, i dont have any data to back me up but i think the CSI counselor is right on that.

i dont understand why you ask this Q at the first place. UCSI didnt even offer diploma in pharmacy and the only place i can think of is INTI.is it because your result not good enough?

it is good to note that there is no way to top up a pharmacy degree after your diploma. someone here actually wrote that it is not a pathway recognised by the board of pharmacy. again, you only have my words.

Ah shit i am scared now..i'm taking STPM..my results came out ok...A for Pa,A- for bio and chem...but B only for math!!I heard that the minimum requirement for pharmacy is B+ for math..wat should i do now?I am not aiming for private uni though coz of financial restrictions...public uni is my only and last choice..with only B in math,can i get the pharmacy course?

that would be difficult..........
you will have to apply for IPTS then, use PTPTN loan and go for... say

http://www.kict.edu.my/index.php?option=co...id=14&Itemid=27

Ideal advanced country arrangement:
Doctor is the best expert in diagnosis so they only do diagnosis and write prescription.
Pharmacist is the best expert in drug so they only check for possible mistake in prescription and after checking, dispense the medicine.


In Malaysia.
Doctor think they are the best expert in both diagnosis and drug. So they diagnosis and dispense.

Pharmacist do not get prescription to dispense so they start to diagnosis and dispense.

Yes, it is a mad-mad world in Malaysia. Another Malaysia boleh stuff.

SHIT!I don wan IPTS....yer juz for B in math makes the 3As useless...sad case






FARMASI
KF00

08 Semester




MEMENUHI SYARAT AM UNIVERSITI
DAN
SYARAT KHAS PROGRAM

Mendapat sekurang-kurangnya Gred B (NGMP 3.00) pada peringkat STPM dalam mata pelajaran berikut:

• Biology;

• Chemistry; dan

• Mathematics T / Further Mathematics T



dan



Mendapat sekurang-kurangnya Tahap 3 (Band 3) dalam Malaysian University English Test (MUET);


Tis info i get from gov website..the Uni for the above course is UKM..looks like the minimum grade for math is B wo..

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 17 2009, 11:27 PM

@Duckies

enough for the minimum requirement, time for the harsh reality.

as you know, pharmacy is very competitive to get in. so, minimum requirement will remain as minimum requirement.

according to unofficial statistic for intakes in the year of 2007 if i am not mistaken, the lowest cGPA to get offered a place in pharmacy is 3.89 for STPM qualification and there is only that 1 lucky person. the rest are straight As 4.00 students. if you are from matriculation, then there might be a chance to get in IPTA for pharmacy.

you might have chance to get into pharmacy but dont keep your expectation high.

so, my advice to you is,

1.get ready to apply some other courses as well for your IPTA. particularly those less competative one(biochemistry or microbiology etc).

2. if you really want only pharmacy, secure a scholarship or PTPTN and for IPTS. go for UCSI.

"yer juz for B in math makes the 3As useless...sad case"
you should have know when you decided to take STPM and aiming for pharmacy in IPTA. i still remember my maths teacher said,

"although some of you aim for medicine and all of you might think that maths is useless and not related to your career in future, but if you dont score at least A-, do you think you can get the offer?"

i think that what he said is so true.

p/s: the unofficial statistic i talked about is kexijifen.

I am not every good in math so duh cant do anything except blaming myself.Anyway thanks for the info...biochem can be another path for me..as long as it has potential career with decent salary in the society.Biomedic from wat i heard is having tough time as it's a new course and not much job aplication offered

@Duckies

specific degree such as chemistry degree, biology, biochemistry, microbiology are sought after by some industry (pharmaceutic or chemical manufacturing for example). there are some prospect but salary wise perhaps you should google around.

the production of biomedical science graduates is so much every year but i doubt the market demand is so huge to accommodate almost every graduates. just look at the number of institution offering biomedical science. the prospect is so much better overseas compare to malaysia where some graduates are working at lab that analyze your blood and urine etc.

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Added on April 18, 2009, 6:23 pmjudging from your result, i think you have the potential to score maths but maybe lack of practice and didn't realize the serious price to pay for not scoring maths are what that affect your maths result.

i believe to be able to score/swim in maths, you just have to get wet.

This post has been edited by jerk: Apr 18 2009, 06:23 PM

Thanks for saying i hav the potential.Mayb i hav,but juz cant getting myself interested in math.So in the end lack of practice and get a B.



Wow well said!

This post has been edited by Duckies: Apr 18 2009, 08:38 PM