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Life Sciences The PHARMACY Thread, everything you need to know/ask

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post Mar 14 2009, 02:25 PM

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Nice dude. Someone really need this helpful link. Turnout that pharmacy really quite cheap compared to medicine.

But how about the carreer? Does someone with pharmacy degree could easily found job at government or private sector? And how about the starting salary?
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post Mar 15 2009, 11:46 PM

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Thanks for the enlightenment hurm00,

I actually did considered getting into Pharmacy but my mom got really pissed and said that Pharmacy hard to find work and got to open own pharmacy shop. But I know she just wanted to get me into Medicine. But for me, I think the course small tuition fees compared to medicine and stable job is quite a catch. I definately place my eye on Pharmacy if not getting Medicine.
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post Mar 16 2009, 11:16 AM

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But may I know if MPharm is *better* than BPharm since we learn a lot more?

Also may I know if anyone who just came out of university in maybe UK could get job directly to UK without having to wait a year or two getting visa?
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post Mar 17 2009, 01:28 PM

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Thanks youngkies,

Now I know more about pharmacies prospective already. Man, I sure wanted to apply pharmacy there. What university do you recommend a low-grader to apply there? I'm thinking Leeds or Bristol.
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post Mar 17 2009, 09:18 PM

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hurm00, I think that should be sticky on the first post, really detailed. Well to be pharmacist in IPTA here, you need 4 flat but IPTS only need 3 B+. But does pharmacy need to learn like in Form 6 like add A to B to become C .C add to D become E(repeat...)? or we just learn the property/structure of the chemical substances
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post Mar 17 2009, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(baoz @ Mar 17 2009, 09:46 PM)
Chemistry is like the heart of Pharmacy, I would say. I'm only a first year so I can't tell you much but as future drug specialists, we would need to know in detail the structure of chemicals, their interactions and etc. Once a drug enters our body, how it solubilises into the blood circulatory system, or how the cells absorb them. All depends on their properties.

And of course, A + B ---> C + D would be important too.

For instance: acids and bases. We learn that the strong ones can completely dissociate in water and the weak ones partially. We need to know the equations and equilibrium constants to calculate a lot of things related to the drugs. Since our body is made up mostly of water and stuff.
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Ah I guess I would not like Pharmacy as I thought I was. While I could handle STPM Chem, I bet that if I study this for 4 year, my brain might blow up. But I think many do like Chemistry and this could be their dream course.
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post Mar 18 2009, 06:18 PM

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Ah, thats clear enough. Well I forgot that pharmacy is very broad in their study. But if I only get a B in STPM Chemistry, do you think I can do pharmacy?
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post Mar 19 2009, 01:33 AM

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Hey your ISP is from Oxford. You must be a frinkin genius to able to enter there.

But pharmacy is quite a popular course. Do I even stand a chance to enter Manchester or Liverpool with my A-,B,B result?. I heard it one of the top one in UK (not as top as Oxford though tongue.gif)
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What? Can I really enter with my with that. That STPM but STPM is regarded higher or lower than A-level?

But hey, how do you get into Oxford. I only went there once when I got to trip with my family there. The building is unbelievably old but somehow I know that only the brightest could go there.
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post Mar 19 2009, 04:37 PM

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Yep, I guess one more course to throw out of my mind. Biomedical Science seem to be the only one to accept me.


Added on March 19, 2009, 4:42 pmhttp://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Pharmacy_Degree&diff=next&oldid=57661
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In general entry requirements range from AAB - BBB depending on the institution. Some are detailed below.

    * Kings College London : ABB/Interview
    * School of Pharmacy  : ABB/Interview
    * Nottingham University : ABB/AAB/Interview
    * Manchester University : ABB/Interview
    * Aston University Birmingham : ABB
    * De Monfort University : BBB/300 UCAS Tariff points
    * Kingston University : BBB/300 UCAS Tariff points
    * Liverpool John Moores : BBB/Interview
    * Cardiff University Wales : ABB/Interview

Interviews are commonplace for the MPharm degree at most institutions.


UK seem to accept my result !

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Well yeah I guess we will never know if we never try. Australia do seem like a good place to study but I'm quite afraid of the racism there. While it a small percentage of racism people, I heard less happening in UK.

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* Mathematics (O level or GCSE) Grade B or SPM Grade A1
    * A-level offer is based on three A-level subjects (typically AAB-ABB); for a combined A/AS level, an equivalent offer is made.
    * Candidates with A-levels must have A-levels in Chemistry and two other subjects, one of which must be a science subject such as Biology, Mathematics or Physics OR A-levels in Chemistry and one other subject which must be an appropriate science subject, plus two AS level subjects. All Biology and Mathematics variants are acceptable.
    * Candidates with STPM will need minimum grades of AAB+ to AB+B+ in Chemistry and two other science subjects/Mathematics. General paper is not acceptable.
    * Candidates with International Baccalaureate will require Grades 5, 5, 6 in Chemistry and two further subjects usually from Biology, Mathematics and Physics, at Higher level plus three further subjects at subsidiary level. Mathematics with Further Mathematics counts as one Higher and one Subsidiary subject. Language A is English and a Grade 5 is required. Applicants should obtain bonus points to give a minimum Diploma of 34-36 points
    * Other Qualifications such as UEC, South Australian Matriculation, Canadian Pre-U (OAC) or other equivalent qualifications will be considered on a case-by-case basis

    All applicants will also be required to attend an interview with a member of the pharmacy academic staff.

English Language Requirement

    * English Language (O level or GCSE) Grade C or SPM Grade A1
    * An International English Language Testing System (IELTS) score of at least 6.0, with a minimum score of at least 5.0 in each of the four individual elements of the test; or
    * A Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) score of at least 550 or computerised test equivalent of 213. (TWE of at least 4.0)
    * MUET Band 5 may also be considered.
I think maybe its a better choice as the fee is less but is nottingham one of the top pharmacy course in UK?

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post Mar 20 2009, 11:41 AM

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Thanks a lot youngkies.

I send numerous university in UK regarding my result and what health-related course I should be applying. Most just redirect me to Biomedical Science. But QUB says to send addition information so I send PMR,SPM and STPM plus MUET smile.gif Hopefully get someting out of it.

Does Nottingham Malaysia campus will give out certificate that originate from their university in UK? Like the certificate will look like we doing it in UK rather than M'sia.
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post Mar 20 2009, 09:41 PM

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Nice one. I'm going to check its booth on edufair this weekend!

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post Mar 21 2009, 01:00 AM

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Ah ok will do. I see that Australia even offer free TOEFL examination to student. They really desperate getting student to their country. I think they figure out how to get money from oversea or 'pengaliran wang dalam negara' tongue.gif
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Oh yeah sorry its IELTS. But does pharmacist work hour is similar to doctor where >48 hour is a norm? And may I know if pharmacist just dispensing medicine 24/7 and they become zombie afterward because of doing it and nothing else tongue.gif?
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I think 10k only possible if you work as a lecturer or with a pharmaceutical company. But if you want that type of money straight away, work in UK or US. Save money there and when you come back ka-ching $$$
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Just go to Nottingham booth today at FACON. Not as friendly as other place but it's clear and concise.

Turn out out the lowest is cutoff for nottingham is AB+B+ so I could apply. They try persuade me to Engineering but nah...

I'll apply Pharmacy for QUB in UK. Got to go KL next week for counselling with it international staff. So tiring...
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post Mar 23 2009, 11:40 AM

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but was't in Mainland UK it would be tougher to get a spot?( I got a typo error there as the word 'could apply' should be 'could'nt apply') I know my result which is A-,B,B is not good enough for many institution except the unpopular ones. QUB is recognized by SMC which the thing I looked into. If I can get like Cardiff, then I must already apply now. With this result, you think other place will accept me?
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No not yet. I have to meet a representative in KL first before deciding. Maybe I will try UCAS later. My brother is good at writing essay on UCAS so I will discuss on what to write.

If you were me, what university do you recommend?
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Mar 23 2009, 02:10 PM)
i had once chosen cardiff and i have never regretted it.

any one of these will do, cardiff, bath, nottingham, manchester, london school of pharmacy.

bath and nottingham are really nice campus based universities.

all are among the top pharmacy schools in uk, fighting over the no.1 since ages ago. never fall beyond top 8 of about only less that 40 pharmacy schools in uk.

love cardiff for its location, culture, city, conveniences, facilities, people, uniqueness, buildings, status, and of course among the top pharmacy school. in fact it was rated no.1 in pharmacy for the year when I graduated.
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Ok. I make sure to remember this especially Cardiff. Hopefully my lame result might get me into this courses!

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