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 Amansiara @ Jalan Ipoh, Selayang v2, congrats to P2 , P3 owners VP !!!!!

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ngyh
post Sep 9 2009, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(d'artagnan @ Sep 8 2009, 11:36 PM)
Sure ka? Why MPS need to issue the summon since you never inform or get an approval for your renovation inside your unit. We already got the CF and the renovation is not the major renovation and involved with the main structure. But my opinion better you get an advise from the professional on the type of wall for your partition since we have considered about the load of the partition wall. I think what is Mr. Kwa concerned is the partition wall load coz it stand alone with no support from below unit (if your unit is above level). Anything try to refer with the professional before you construt the partition wall.


Added on September 8, 2009, 11:54 pm

Hi Shafary,

Thanks for the copy of minute meeting. I appreciate what you and the committee doing now. Is the meeting open for the owner of Amansiara to attend? Anyway, thanks to all of you guys...
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But I saw the house nearby guard house did the partitioned wall between kitchen and living hall area.. and the wall is not wooden type.
Aich.... really confusing.
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post Sep 9 2009, 09:50 AM

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hi there..

im 1st phse owner..
jalan amansiara 1 (main road)..

about the partition between kitchen and living,
have u guys seen the showhouse b4 buying?
i still remember they put the wall up to ceiling between it..
so, whats a problem with this developer?
really confuse me..



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post Sep 9 2009, 10:05 AM

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one more thing to share to all of U , I think Mr. Kwa abit "blur"" blur" ..i asked him i want to install Cage Grill at yard Bedroom 3 , he told me cannot ? But my friend next to my unit he allow her to installed .He said awning is allow install in yard area for ground floor (Bedroom 3).

I think Mr. Kwa not so Prof and no so understand our floor plan and floor structure .

This post has been edited by bluesky_king: Sep 9 2009, 10:06 AM
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post Sep 9 2009, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(mickey&minnie @ Sep 9 2009, 09:50 AM)
hi there..

im 1st phse owner..
jalan amansiara 1 (main road)..

about the partition between kitchen and living,
have u guys seen the showhouse b4 buying?
i still remember they put the wall up to ceiling between it..
so, whats a problem with this developer?
really confuse me..
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hi all,
Seems like we had pay a high cost to take this experience. Will informed friends and relatives to be aware of this problem developer when buy dream house in future.
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post Sep 9 2009, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(ngyh @ Sep 9 2009, 09:22 AM)
But I saw the house nearby guard house did the partitioned wall between kitchen and living hall area.. and the wall is not wooden type.
Aich.... really confusing.
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Hi, All.

I am just calling MPS, if we want to do the new brick wall or hacking the wet kitchen wall & door to yard must get approval from them 1st la. A lot of things to concern & apply again !!!!! mad.gif My renovation cannot move !!!!
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post Sep 9 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(jilnele @ Sep 9 2009, 11:18 AM)
Hi, All.

I am just calling MPS, if we want to do the new brick wall or hacking the wet kitchen wall & door to yard must get approval from them 1st la.  A lot of things to concern & apply again !!!!! mad.gif  My renovation cannot move !!!!
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but hacking wet kitchen wall Mr. Kwa said can wo and allow ??but add new partition wall have apply from MPS ? confusing rite ..
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:01 PM

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Spoken to the show house contractor. There is no black and white from Mr. Kwa or the management that the show house design is approved. It is just a face-to-face approval. When contractor shows Mr. Kwa where he wants to build a wall and where he wants to remove the windows, Mr. Kwa says "ok, ok." But mana black and white? Later the RM3K kena makan cause tak follow rules pulak.
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(wongms @ Sep 9 2009, 12:01 PM)
Spoken to the show house contractor. There is no black and white from Mr. Kwa or the management that the show house design is approved. It is just a face-to-face approval. When contractor shows Mr. Kwa where he wants to build a wall and where he wants to remove the windows, Mr. Kwa says "ok, ok." But mana black and white? Later the RM3K kena makan cause tak follow rules pulak.
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Ya..I greed.
So simple ask for RM3k, when return to us, they might be simply said that we are not follow their rules, we really need a black and white.
Now they just suka hati can, can.. cannot cannot.. what to prove at the end?
APA LA.....
Delay the renovation, delay to move in, and continue to pay the house rental now. Who help to bare the cost?
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post Sep 9 2009, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(wongms @ Sep 9 2009, 01:01 PM)
Spoken to the show house contractor. There is no black and white from Mr. Kwa or the management that the show house design is approved. It is just a face-to-face approval. When contractor shows Mr. Kwa where he wants to build a wall and where he wants to remove the windows, Mr. Kwa says "ok, ok." But mana black and white? Later the RM3K kena makan cause tak follow rules pulak.
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I think renovation deposit is for the purpose of the following:-

1) debris clearing - if you do not remove the debris after renovation, mgt will remove for u, then cost will be deducted from your deposit

2) causing any common area damage - if you renovate your house causing the drain outside clog or road damage etc, mgt will repair & cost will be deducted from your deposit

if you renovate your house internally & not causing any damage to common area they have no right to forfeit your deposit.

my friend told me amansiara house is using pre-cast concrete method, meaning the 4 main wall (front, back left right side) in your house cannot be hacked or removed because this method the wall is act as column too. if you removed or hack will affect the structure of the whole block, house will collapse. those wall like partition to your room/bathroom in between can be hack or remove due to they are built by bricks. if you are not clear, any one can upload the floor plan i will tell you which wall is the pre-cast wall which wall is the brick wall. one of the disadvantage of this type construction method is you cannot do extension to your house due to wall cannot be hacked or removed, this method is commonly used by highrise building coz save cost and time. it is like lego type of building method.

http://www.hcprecast.com.my/v2/precast_syst_range.php


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post Sep 9 2009, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(yeh.babe @ Sep 9 2009, 12:33 PM)
I think renovation deposit is for the purpose of the following:-

1) debris clearing - if you do not remove the debris after renovation, mgt will remove for u, then cost will be deducted from your deposit

2) causing any common area damage - if you renovate your house causing the drain outside clog or road damage etc,  mgt will repair & cost will be deducted from your deposit

if you renovate your house internally & not causing any damage to common area they have no right to forfeit your deposit.

my friend told me amansiara house is using pre-cast concrete method, meaning the 4 main wall (front, back left right side) in your house cannot be hacked or removed because this method the wall is act as column too. if you removed or hack will affect the structure of the whole block, house will collapse. those wall like partition to your room/bathroom in between can be hack or remove due to they are built by bricks. if you are not clear, any one can upload the floor plan i will tell you which wall is the pre-cast wall which wall is the brick wall. one of the disadvantage of this type construction method is you cannot do extension to your house due to wall cannot be hacked or removed, this method is commonly used by highrise building coz save cost and time. it is like lego type of building method.

http://www.hcprecast.com.my/v2/precast_syst_range.php
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Thanks for the analysis. I will upload the floor plan tomorrow to avoid all the confusing.
Really panic with the management. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 9 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(ngyh @ Sep 8 2009, 03:49 PM)
There are too much rules and condition to be follow, if they are really concern abt the standard,
why all the car porch are not standard, some are so slanting.

My unit at 1/5, the road narrow like a lorong belakang rumah..
Look at the break fence, I haven't move in ler..dunno the fence can 'stand' for how long..
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hi,

your house is similar to mine no. 40-4 jalan 1/5. yours?
i have already complain about the slanting carporch, they dont repair it yet but inside house
defect already repaired. (kereta tak lepas masuk porch, coz sangkut)

ermm, want to share with you all, my kitchen cabinet 10 feet "L" shape (refer 4th floor) about rm5300 total cost
laminate finishes cabinet door, solid surface counter top 2 choice of price = 1feet for rm130 & 1feet for 180,
2 bowl sink, cooker hood & hob.

my door & window grill cost rm2200. simple design (horizontal line steel),
cage type grill for air well area (bedroom 3 window)

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Added on September 9, 2009, 1:23 pm
QUOTE(dee_zoul @ Sep 8 2009, 08:19 AM)
SERIUSLY DEV NI MEMG PLG GILA PNH I JUMPA.one man behind these,one day kalau jumpa mahu aku seranah dia..

MEREKA SIKIT PUN TAK  DE rasa nak bertolak ansur dgn buyer.
tapi bila kita claim LAD buat diam2 je.

skg claim LAD aku dah tmat 5/9/09.aku bagi 2 minggu,dia mintak sebulan,so sebulan dah tmt.
harini aku nak call wirama bodo tu last tanya apa status claim aku
kalau masih dok under discussion then go to hell aku nak tunggu lagi.

esok aku nak g report tribunal tuntutan pengguna pasal lad,3k deposit,maksud renovation,then aku nak report polis pasal amik deposit rm100 untuk kad extra,mengambil wang deposit secara haram tanpa dlm perjanjian.(nanti aku bincang la ngn polis)

dan pada smua amansiara owner just ingore 3k deposit if u want install lamp.apa diaorng bleh buat?
tell me...tak bagi masuk rumah?pegi buat polis report,apa2 dia buat just lodge report polis.
ruma tu kita punya..

diaorang takkan menang kat mana2 court pun.
kita ada lawyer,kalau dia byk ckp just say...TALK TO MY LAWYER..


Added on September 8, 2009, 8:27 amallan..

who is project manager?

i want include his name in TTPM case.

i think mr huang ,am  i right?
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bro.... aku support bro....... jom kite menentang..... (tapi aku dah tak bleh tunggu...coz da nak pasang lampu & etc... nak pindahhh.. dah tal larat tanggung kos umah sewa.


Added on September 9, 2009, 1:25 pm
QUOTE(DeenKing @ Sep 8 2009, 10:35 AM)
Ok...Kita reramai set-up meeting untuk buat langkah ini...amacam?...tak payah pk-pk lagi...Lagi lama, lagi parah...silap-silap nak basuh rumah pun kira renovation tuh!!!..OK...SETUP MEETING FOR PHASE 1,2 n 3....Like I said b4...direct to management..no more kerani-kerani....BUAT vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  SAKIT HATI JER...
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bila ada meeting? inform aku ... nak join!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by adi_azma: Sep 9 2009, 01:25 PM
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post Sep 9 2009, 02:08 PM

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hi,

cud anyone pls advise whether the following para highlighted in RED in the sample LAD letter provided in this forum is required when submitting the LAD claim?

"Please note that I would further demand for LAD until the criteria are for moving into our premises are complied as per the S&P agreement."

thanks much

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post Sep 9 2009, 04:40 PM

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actually if i were to renovate internal & no major hacking to do, i will not pay for reno deposit, what mgt can do to you? stop work order? they r not authority...install light & kitchen cabinet is not major and will not cause any damage to common area or leave any debris, why care to pay, if hacking or doing flooring, yes la, need to pay due to cement left over, debris, hacking etc a lot hassle that may cause damage to common area. but if done internally, why bother to pay. RM3k is too high. crazy developer!! sucking blood!!
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post Sep 9 2009, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(yeh.babe @ Sep 9 2009, 04:40 PM)
actually if i were to renovate internal & no major hacking to do, i will not pay for reno deposit, what mgt can do to you? stop work order? they r not authority...install light & kitchen cabinet is not major and will not cause any damage to common area or leave any debris, why care to pay, if hacking or doing flooring, yes la, need to pay due to cement left over, debris, hacking etc a lot hassle that may cause damage to common area. but if done internally, why bother to pay. RM3k is too high. crazy developer!! sucking blood!!
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rclxms.gif ya..ya... I support u.. really crazy developer.
No point to pay deposit for only install lights and kitchen cabinet.
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post Sep 9 2009, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(yeh.babe @ Sep 9 2009, 04:40 PM)
actually if i were to renovate internal & no major hacking to do, i will not pay for reno deposit, what mgt can do to you? stop work order? they r not authority...install light & kitchen cabinet is not major and will not cause any damage to common area or leave any debris, why care to pay, if hacking or doing flooring, yes la, need to pay due to cement left over, debris, hacking etc a lot hassle that may cause damage to common area. but if done internally, why bother to pay. RM3k is too high. crazy developer!! sucking blood!!
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Absolutely agreed! But they gila issued warning letter to one of the owner who went in to own house just to pasang lights. Can see they are so gila for money. I wonder if after few months I want to add on some new lights or change just a light bulb, will they ask me to pay 3K deposit or not.
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post Sep 9 2009, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(yeh.babe @ Sep 9 2009, 04:40 PM)
actually if i were to renovate internal & no major hacking to do, i will not pay for reno deposit, what mgt can do to you? stop work order? they r not authority...install light & kitchen cabinet is not major and will not cause any damage to common area or leave any debris, why care to pay, if hacking or doing flooring, yes la, need to pay due to cement left over, debris, hacking etc a lot hassle that may cause damage to common area. but if done internally, why bother to pay. RM3k is too high. crazy developer!! sucking blood!!
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Totally agree with you. we just only install kitchen cabinet, install grille, and pasang the lights, can not be consider as renovation. Renovation means you have must broken something and have change the original design. JUst doing these installation can not consider as renovation work.


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hi...Im one of the house owner yg dapat warning letter tu..no 11-4, Jalan 1/7...but just ignored it..They like gila wang..Pasang lampu and kipas need to pay rm3k 1st...I already pasang cause tyeh only notify me that pasang lampu and kipas need to pay rm3k after i'd have installed everything....masa tu baru yg i tau pasang kipas and lampu considered renovation..Its crazy man...!!!! They want us to go in to the house without lights or what???? need to pay rm3k ...i feel stupid when think about this...So sesiapa nak pasang lampu just terus pasang..!!!! just a lampu ma...kalau reno tu lain cerita..!! I setuju kita buat meeting for all phase 1,2 and 3......bincang balik..This dev tak boleh bagi muka..WE HAVE OUR RIGHTS.!!!!

Report to tribunal terus. Belum apa2 lagi nama dev dah busuk...So set time for us to meet..!!!!!

For all the resident please chack your car parking..See whether your car can go in r not..My car ngam2 5 inch at the back and 2 inch after close the gate....How small...!!!!

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QUOTE(scorpio_grace1031 @ Sep 9 2009, 08:36 PM)
Totally agree with you. we just only install kitchen cabinet, install grille, and pasang the lights, can not be consider as renovation. Renovation means you have must broken something and have change the original design. JUst doing these installation can not consider as renovation work.
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i urge to all amansiarans..

just ignore deposit rm3k if u just want install lamp,fan,grill,
kitchen kabinet..


just do it like nothing happen..but do it in proper way..

nak hidup,pandai2 la..i totallyt agrred wit yeh babe..
she's our reference regarding this bad dev.

stop work order ,it is just a piece of letter.dun be scared.they can do nothing.

anybody can create warning like that..
u just do internally work..
so no need to pay deposit.


Added on September 9, 2009, 10:17 pmadi azma..

kau punya rumah satu row ngan rumah aku la..

aku 22-4 jln 1/5.

jalan 1/5 ni memang narrow pun.dlm SNP 28ft jer.
tapi ada lagi jalan kecik tak tahula jln ape no nya,just 24ft..

lagi sempit..naya2..

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post Sep 10 2009, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(ngyh @ Sep 9 2009, 09:22 AM)
But I saw the house nearby guard house did the partitioned wall between kitchen and living hall area.. and the wall is not wooden type.
Aich.... really confusing.
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Yes. i know that. It is coz the unit is on the ground floor. But my opinion is if your unit at 1st, 2nd or 3rd floor, there is not support under your partition wall (if brickwall) if your below unit do not construct the same design and area with you. Your partition wall will be hanging and the load of the wall have no support. It is different with the ground floor which is the fully support for the load is from the earth.

It is from my point of view but you can refer it with the professional if you want.


Added on September 10, 2009, 7:25 amIs there any defect work for the unit has been completed by the developer? My unit just a minor defect but the developer need to take almost for 1 month to complete the defect work. Currently, when i come to my unit, there is no defect work has been started except they start with another work which is they hack my wall and just leave it and come back after 2 or 3 days later.


Added on September 10, 2009, 7:35 am
QUOTE(adi_azma @ Sep 9 2009, 01:18 PM)
hi,

your house is similar to mine no. 40-4 jalan 1/5. yours?
i have already complain about the slanting carporch, they dont repair it yet but inside house
defect already repaired. (kereta tak lepas masuk porch, coz sangkut)

ermm, want to share with you all, my kitchen cabinet 10 feet "L" shape (refer 4th floor) about rm5300 total cost
laminate finishes cabinet door, solid surface counter top 2 choice of price = 1feet for rm130 & 1feet for 180,
2 bowl sink, cooker hood & hob.

my door & window grill cost rm2200. simple design (horizontal line steel),
cage type grill for air well area (bedroom 3 window)

rolleyes.gif


Added on September 9, 2009, 1:23 pm

bro.... aku support bro....... jom kite menentang..... (tapi aku dah tak bleh tunggu...coz da nak pasang lampu & etc... nak pindahhh.. dah tal larat tanggung kos umah sewa.


Added on September 9, 2009, 1:25 pm

bila ada meeting? inform aku ... nak join!!!!!!!
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I support you bro... Kita punye unit, kita punya hak, kita lawan habis-habisan. I also agreed with your terms of installation & renovation. You pasang je bro, nak buat apa pening2 kepala nak fikir. Nak pasang lampu yg tak sampai RM500 harganya, kita nak kena bayar diorang RM3k. Kita suruh diorang contra dengan kita punya LAD jelah.

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QUOTE(d'artagnan @ Sep 10 2009, 07:17 AM)
Yes. i know that. It is coz the unit is on the ground floor. But my opinion is if your unit at 1st, 2nd or 3rd floor, there is not support under your partition wall (if brickwall) if your below unit do not construct the same design and area with you. Your partition wall will be hanging and the load of the wall have no support. It is different with the ground floor which is the fully support for the load is from the earth.

It is from my point of view but you can refer it with the professional if you want.


Added on September 10, 2009, 7:25 amIs there any defect work for the unit has been completed by the developer? My unit just a minor defect but the developer need to take almost for 1 month to complete the defect work. Currently, when i come to my unit, there is no defect work has been started except they start with another work which is they hack my wall and just leave it and come back after 2 or 3 days later.


Added on September 10, 2009, 7:35 am

I support you bro... Kita punye unit, kita punya hak, kita lawan habis-habisan. I also agreed with your terms of installation & renovation. You pasang je bro, nak buat apa pening2 kepala nak fikir. Nak pasang lampu yg tak sampai RM500 harganya, kita nak kena bayar diorang RM3k. Kita suruh diorang contra dengan kita punya LAD jelah.
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Betul tu bro....yang tangung hutang, kiter...Aku memang nak ignored jer 3k depo tu, pasal internal reno jer..dengan MPS pun x apply kot...Tapi yang aku bengang tuh defect aku dah dekat sebulan dah...x repair2 gak...bila kat site office, tebal tak hingat form defect tuh!! biler ler nak sampai turn aku tuh...

Bab Flyover tu nampak macam slow ler kerja dia kan?

Semalam dapat surat dari dev regarding on strata application...kira efisien ker aper....ok la kot.

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