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post Dec 20 2013, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Ball of Fish ball @ Dec 20 2013, 10:42 AM)
icic .. it because i am runner, so it only took me about less than 4hours to the peak with 3kg backpack ..
so more or less will expect someone arrive near our tent to see sunrise & disturb my sweet dreams LOL  ..  sweat.gif
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I just wonder what you have in your backpack? A camper usually carry around 8-20kg depends on the hike.

If you ask me, whether are there campers from Lolo to witness the sunrise? Maybe yes and that could affect your good night sleep. Unless you trek down a little via Janda Baik route and use a hammock to sleep.
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post Dec 20 2013, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ball of Fish ball @ Dec 20 2013, 04:29 PM)
that 3kg backpack was simple hike , so now i plan to get a backpack can carry up to 20Liter stuff ..  cool.gif
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10-12kg load were good enough to camp just a night there. Checklist like sleeping gear, cooking gear, sufficient water, a pair of clean clothing to sleep and to trek back the next day. Normally I will carry heavy and enjoy the trek with good meal for my dinner and breakfast.
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post Dec 20 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ball of Fish ball @ Dec 20 2013, 05:13 PM)
icic .. thanks for the tips .. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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No problem. Feel free to ask me any other mountains which you wish to camp. Hopefully I been there before smile.gif Still got many that I have yet to hike sad.gif
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post Dec 21 2013, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 21 2013, 07:08 PM)
speaking of camping tent, where can get a reason price 4~6 mens tent double layer tent .. 
also any recommend of hiking bag just for a 2D1N easy hike with that tent on ..

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How far will be the hike? 4 - 6 men tent quite heavy. You could carry any weight or prefer ultra light (means more $$$ by the difference of 600g - 1kg)?

2D 1N I will suggest a 40l-50l bagpack.
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post Dec 21 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 21 2013, 11:43 PM)
maybe like gunung nuang and rajah ..
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40l should be good enough for both mountains. I could do like on both by using hammock. Lolo and Pacat no doubt lots of tree.

In Rajah, best place to hammock will be at Kem Hijau.
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post Dec 22 2013, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 22 2013, 01:32 PM)
you use hammock due to light weight right ?
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It really depends where I hike and camp. Some area can use hammock, some can pitch tent, some cannot do both - so you have to opt for flysheet and groundsheet.

Even if you do hammock you still need flysheet to ensure you wouldn't caught by the rain.
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post Dec 24 2013, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 23 2013, 11:09 PM)
icic ... i thought hammock nowadays got so advance till no need to flysheet to cover the rain ..  laugh.gif
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Maybe you are referring to mosquito netting. LOL. Some do provide the flysheet together but still you need to tie them about 45 degree to cover both sides.
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post Dec 26 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 24 2013, 04:35 PM)
icic ... i heard a good tent is needed in high mountain area ?  unsure.gif
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High mountain area? I felt the tent play a minor part. As long the tent was set up properly with an additional fly over the top, it reduces rain water (if raining) from penetrating into the tent when you were sleeping or block strong gust that could make you chill all night.

Personally opinion I rather spent more on my sleeping gear - an air mattress, a +10 sleeping bag (most people will get the +12 as it is more common), some good sleeping attire for the night, and etc. Some get the emergency blanket (the one with aluminum foil or a common yoga mat to be place underneath where you are sleeping.

Based on your description looks like you have not camp in 2,000 m mountains and above? If you want to try camping at highland to adapt to the environment, you could try in Genting Highland (very uncommon for those who do not know the place well - not referring to Gunung Bunga Buah), and Cameron Highland (basecamp of Gunung Irau, not the peak).
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post Dec 30 2013, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 27 2013, 06:22 PM)
nope ... me just zero experience in camping  .. all the while just do some simple hike like nuang and apek hill .. now got some friend plan to find some chill place to camp .. so just seeking some sifu great experience here ..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Just let me know where you want to camp and I could provide you the possible place to camp. If you want it to be chill and easy, you could try Gunung Suku at Cameron Highland. There are place to park at least 3-5 cars by the roadside (you pray your car never get smash like what happened in Gunung Irau earlier this month). Do expect it to be cold as wind will be hitting your camp all night long. When wake up in the morning you could see Gunung Chabang and the Titiwangsa range smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2013, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Dec 28 2013, 02:39 PM)
looking to do trans nuang..

Pangsoon - peak - janda baik and return..

But not familiar with the route from Janda baik.. anyone interested?

did this last week
http://www.trainingpeaks.com/av/KPXEW3ENRK6V6MYOEN5ATFCVSU
easy hike in the heart of KL
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Trans Nuang? LOL.

My first question to you - did you prepare for the transportation?

Via janda baik is much faster around 3-4 hours should be able reach peak and via Pangsoon averagely 4-6 hours.

Via Janda Baik will pass through a farm. The boss usually not around. Most of the people you see will be Indonesia worker. From passion fruits to durians to chillis and all sort of vegetables, you pass through a small river (most people shower there after the hike) then trek in (Pangsoon kind of route - small granites, rocks) before entering the forest.

The forest is quite muddy, possible lots of leech and might required bamboo chopping if the route is no longer visible. 1- 1.5 hours from the first river you will see a waterfall that marks the half way mark called Lata Chemperoh. This is where most tend to get lost if they are poor with marking.

The route to Gunung Nuang via Janda Baik is 12 oclock direction from where you see the stream, whereby the waterfall being your 3 oclock direction. From there should take you another 1.5 hours with one part required upper strength to pull yourself up. Quite easy peasy.

Oh ya, forgot to tell you that the road to entry point in Janda Baik is quite rocky. Better drive a higher elevated car. Wira can kiss good bye to your bottom section smile.gif Hope that helps.

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post Dec 30 2013, 09:29 AM

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Saw your graph for your Bukit Puteh trail run. Impressive. Could you define Saga peak? What did you saw there? Do you know that there is a "beirut" in Saga?
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post Dec 30 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(nap2617 @ Dec 30 2013, 10:33 AM)
swimming accross sungai Sarawak. from waterfront to opposite village and swim back.

btw, beware of croc
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post Dec 30 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Dec 30 2013, 12:47 PM)
well i mean that we will go there and back on the same route.. so transportation might be less of a problem..
I have did peak via Pangsoon in a leisurely pace for 5 hours.. but it can make things a lot slower when it's rainy season, I remember there's a portion which is rather muddy..

The way via Janda Baik, i might want to do one time peak via Janda Baik to have a feel how it looks like.. going down could be faster.. I think I went down to Pangsoon from peak around 3 hours..
hmm it's not really a run lol.. just a normal walk..
Saga peak is the name the local gives to this peak which enable you to access this hill from Ampang, it's actually Ahpek hill hike (various confusing names for this hill). Lots of exercise equipment that the local build on it..
In Saga peak, there's a lot of tents and shelter (overhead canvas? or what you call it). From there you can see a little of Ampang and KLCC from one of the window near the slope.

Actually I thought that our locals behind too "kind" sometimes and overdeveloped these trails.. they are constantly building stuff, clearing more trails.. causing more erosion too.. I am not sure if that's something that everyone wants..

Recently I went to the hill in Puchong (they call it wawasan?).. It is suppose to be a research forest reserve by UPM, I felt bad trespassing into it.. Worse when the local try to "build" stuff again..
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Trust me if it is raining and via JB you expecting tiger leech attack. It is not that difficult but why do trans Nuang when you are heading back to the same way.

Lets make a graph out of it
Pangsoon > Nuang Peak 5 hours
Nuang > Lata Chemperoh 2 hours
Lata Chemperoh > Nuang 2 hours
Nuang > Pangsoon 7 hours (assumingly you guys are demoralized)
Assuming 5+2+2+7: 16 hours

Let me explain the confusion where most Malaysian unaware. Ah Pak hill is the one located near to the waterfall. Saga hill is another small stop area via Jalan Saga 28. The whole area actually called Bukit Puteh forest reserve. The actual peak of Bukit Puteh forest reserve (approximate 420m if I am not mistaken) was marked with a beirut at Route C via Saga.

I did attempt to find the actual Puchong hill or some called Wawasan. There is a beirut that mark that location as well but after 4 attempts on locating it and fail, lazy wanna do that anymore smile.gif Trespassing is the biggest issue as the land is owned by the Selangor Government and lease to UPM Forestry department for research purposes. There is a deep pool approximate 12 ft deep. The last time I went it is still pristine. Not sure about now. Trespassing will cost us RM10,000 if not mistaken but the local are not bothered. Biasala Malaysia style!
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post Dec 30 2013, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Dec 30 2013, 03:24 PM)
Looks like you are one hell experienced hiker xD..
I been hiking in Europe a little, likes that it is always dry and leech free, and less sweat too, but the weather and terrain can be a lot more unpredictable..

Yeah 16 hours is what the time it takes in my mind too.. The last portion of returning route is always soul crunching..
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As stated in my profile, I used to be a hiker but slow down due to certain commitments and tragedy.

Hiking in other countries have different feeling. Weather would be nice (not humid biggrin.gif), wild animals could be roaming freely, park are well maintained unlike Malaysia - all pretty hidden, if got mostly not well taken care.

I did tell my group before to do a Trans Nuang. Remember I asking you about the car transportation. I subdivide into two different groups - Group A and B.

One do Pangsoon and the other Janda Baik. Meet up at Nuang peak for a picture before taking the other way back. The catch - have to pass your car keys to the other group so that they are able to drive out and meet to another location for dinner.

Somehow, it failed because most prefer to hike via Pangsoon as the other from JB have to wait long for the group photo at peak biggrin.gif

As mentioned in all my other replies, shall there are any mountains in Malaysia that you would like to ask - feel free to ask and maybe I could help even though I hike very minimal for the past two years.


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post Dec 31 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 31 2013, 11:26 AM)
Coordinate for Wawasan Hill entrance

3.024721, 101.629812
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I prefer not to share with as more people will invade the pristine area. Anyway I found more than 3 entrances to enter to this area besides the Wawasan whistling.gif .
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post Dec 31 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 31 2013, 01:27 PM)
Icic .. This wawasan hill nothing to see, one loops 30mins can come down already .. Prefer longer hike like apek hill
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Looks like you are not so familiar with the trail my friend. There are hidden treasures inside this place smile.gif
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post Dec 31 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 31 2013, 01:49 PM)
Well, those hidden treasures for adventurers and i dont afford to pay the fine brows.gif
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ROFL. If you got anywhere you want to hike, just PM me and I see whether I can tag along or not.
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post Dec 31 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 31 2013, 02:05 PM)
sure bro, just make sure don't ditch me half way ya ..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I am old already. Everything slow mo.
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post Dec 31 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 31 2013, 02:15 PM)
30yrs old ?  unsure.gif  laugh.gif  blush.gif
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You can put any age you want as long I am old biggrin.gif

Still wondering which mountain that I have yet to scale now. Hmm smile.gif
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post Dec 31 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Dec 31 2013, 03:48 PM)
bukit sri bintang  biggrin.gif
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When you want to go? Trust me, nothing much there. First 10-20 minutes lots of rubber tree. Possible the monkeys will try to attack you if you show them any sign of food. Reach to the first peak where there is a small gym on the top like Bukit Saga. Another 5-10 minutes trek to the second peak where you can see the view of ermm housing area.

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