Bro, mind to share for the process to get this ? It's not on the spot process ?


Thanks bro

Just got back from Mt. Rinjani

Where can I get topographic maps for all location in Malaysia? At least public ones?

I heard Jupen (Jabatan Ukur dan Peta) sells CD-ROM for RM 5 at the counter, but what does this contains? Thanks.

And if I want to buy topographic maps of mountains / jungles, where can I get one? What about water proof ones?

Thanks.

Also I have to ask, it is generally a good idea to do hiking, camping, etc by yourself? Alone?

I am a loner, and I prefer to do stuff my way, and in my speed, and at my own time.

Even at basic, I do have emergency whistle, fire starter, a multi tool, simple knife with seatbelt cutter and glass smasher. two compass (the basic Coleman and a one with ruler). and a headlight.

i know maybe it best to do it in groups - but due to my work, getting holiday (annual leave) is sometimes per project basis (if big project coming up, no annual leave and to take it when times are slower). but still, the main thing is that I'm a loner...

There's no harm going alone if you feel adventures and brave enough. But having a friend along is better than going alone.
I prefer have one or max two buddies with me when going camping especially when doing jungle trekking. More than 3 person will only create nuisance.

Camping at the beach can be done solo as it's less dangerous than camping inside heavy jungle.

Now that you mentioned camping at the beach... what is the rules over here regarding camping at beaches? I know you have to request with Ranger from Jabatan Perhutanan Malaysia depending on which part of the jungle you plan to camp.

Selangor specially and Malaysia generally.

I've tried Googling but not much come up, comparing googling about beaches law in Oregon (US). That because I'm planning to brain drain to Oregon

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the reason i have to ask is due to information like this that I've got from some of my searches

http://travelog-aiesha.blogspot.com/2011/1...aram-di-pd.html

the cool thing about Oregon beaches is that a long long time ago (in Oregon early days) one of the important people have said that Oregon beaches shall belong to public, FOREVER. There are rules, but you can get them from the government.

But here you don't know which is public, which is private (belong to resort), which government agency you need to apply too... where to get the info...

This post has been edited by fablefox: Sep 7 2014, 09:04 PM

Ok my advice for you bro.

JUPEM, not JUPEN do sell certain maps but if you do have those hiking GPS, you do no need neccesarily to have one unless you are relying on compasses.

I trek myself alone at certain times. There are pro and cons of doing so. You could learn alot by doing yourself but you will need few things and most of them are as per stated in your listed above. Preferable you to grab at least an emergency food ration (normally a day) which could help a little. Parang could be helpful in a lot of way.

Loner or in group, you will need to do a police report nearest to where you are want to explore.

There are a lot of place to do hike, camp by yourself. Just google the hills and mountains in Malaysia and you studied them carefully where you want to start. If you never tried before exploring, then you can try do hill with the height of 300m and above before taking up tougher mountains ahead.

The ideal amount of people to do such activities will be 4 pax. If one of you injured or the group got lost, you could split into group of 2 to accompany each other regardless what happened.

Camping at beach and forest are basically the same. You need approval from various parties unless you choose not to obey the rules and regulation. If camping in the jungle you could be afraid of the wild animals, what makes us think that the tide will not be a problem when pitching by the seaside.

Hey all,

Any recommendations on what to pack for Mulu Pinnacles? I'll be headed there next month.

I hiked Bukit Broga "alone" before. I've said that because Broga, on a Saturday, you are not particularly alone. All the way to near the first summit. I know by then I was already 80% (I've heard that the rest of the summit, are really close to each other). But since due to other problems, I've started my climb at noon. And also equipment malfunction (causing me to lose around 40% of my water supply). And I, in a way, almost lost my mood because now I need to check my other stuff too (headlight, GPS). It was a simple mistake, maybe my fault, maybe the shop keeper fault (its the clip style water pack where you slide the clip in).

Anyway, it was a gear testing expedition anyway (which is why I don't mind starting at noon).

This saturday I'll be heading Gunung Nuang. Another gear testing, and software testing. And personal limit testing.

Before I forgot, does anyone ever use portable HAM radio in the wilderness before? Including high on the mountain? Does you able to communicate via portable HAM radio on the mountains?

And when I said portable, I mean the hand held one, the one that looks like walkie talkie. In the RM 500 range, for those who know.

Understand the terrain and weather my friend. Since Broga Hill is an open hill terrain and hiking in the noon will be a bad idea and you will start to get dehydrate faster. Most people will grab an additional water supply if they are to do the Tok Wan summit because knowing the distance and the weather will be a factor.

Gear testing at Nuang? If your first time, know your limits. If you couldn't reach the summit by 1-2PM, backtrack to starting point. Nuang can be a maze when the area is dark.

Good luck in your expedition.

Yes. I've read that from several blog. Besides, basic math says whatever time you took to be there, you are probably taking the same amount in return. And its easier to get dark on the mountain.

I've downloaded two app on my android phone, and I want to test my AGPS. I also have an old Asus Garmin phone (yes, those two company worked together - for a year, ha! and released only two model). So I want to know how well it function on the mountain. Funny thing is I walked down Broga hill feeling quite sad because I don't have those fancy watch with altitude measurement. Only to realize my Asus Garmin have that option hidden - not in driving mode but when saving your location - it mention your level on the ground - ha!

I also want to make my sure dehydration pack didn't do the same mess again. And since this time I will start from the morning, I hope I can evaluate my true fitness. I heard that Nuang also used for Ultra Run, so I know that the trail are pretty 'spot on' as long as you observe your surrounding.

Does anyone know any popular camping ground in Selangor / KL. Usually easy access, close to resources, and safe. Well, there is Hutan Lipur Ampang and I heard you can apply to camp there. And it was running distance away to humanity (housing area). But I think it also too close to humanity that some people might visit you just to mess with you (since it also a popular hotspot. if they notice you set up camp in the evening, they might try to have fun with you later in the night).

There is also a campground at Sungai Congkak - which can be said as 'gated camping hotspot'. Cost you RM10, but I need to evaluate and see how far it is from the management should there is emergency. But it would be nice to practice camping and test your gear in a safe location, both from human and other stuff.

I know there are people camping on top of Bukit Broga, but I'm not sure how popular, but I do know in case of emergency, getting access to humanity is hard. The same with campground Lolo.

I prefer to do it alone, but I do prefer that when I'm there, I'm not the only one. Unless I'm experienced hard core already. So I'm looking at that paid campground at Sungai Congkak.

But if any of you have other ideas, feel free to post it here.

It is always to have a handheld GPS instead of phone even they come with apps that could track terrain contours. Not all the place in the jungle got communication signal. You could give Nuang a try especially there will not be a strong telco signal from Kem Lolo to Kem Pacat. You could consider getting yourself a Garmin 62S or the older version of 60 CSX which range price from RM 800 - 1400.

I think there are post about popular camping ground before in this topic. Sungai Congkak at Batu 18 is a good place to start with family. Some head to Kem Lolo, at Nuang for camping. Some would consider easier alternative like Sungai Tekala at Batu 14 or Sungai Lepoh. Google around and you could find plenty of information about the camping sites.

Camping in Bukit Broga peak not so popular as the terrain is open and prone to lightning strike. What make matter worst there is no natural water supply at the peak. The nearest will be in between Gunung Tok Wan and Bukit Broga which could be 30-45 minutes trek and quite seasonal. Uncertain you could even find any water which conclude you might as well pack few 1.5 litre of waters.

Just my two cents.

You are correct about Broga. But it is one of the option used by some people to catch the sunset and sunrise safely while making sure the hiking process are done only at daylight.

just asking, which is easier and last longer.

- cooking using gas power where you screw the stove over the tiny gas tank
- cooking using fuel power where you link the stove to the fuel bank (ala maple leaf)

thanks.

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focus here is for one man. the full size stove where you insert gas cartridge to the side does not count

This post has been edited by fablefox: Sep 14 2014, 08:16 PM

Do you have image which you could share as I do not understand what you are trying to say?

links

http://www.outdoor-gear-malaysia.com/tag/c...toves-malaysia/

http://www.fire-maple.com/en/productsinfo.aspx?pid=3

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The first one is where you screw the stove on top of gas tank.

I think the other one you use normal petrol fuel. you pump it and start the stove. I think that how the sales person explain.

But I think he is just a salesperson and never went camping, so doesn't know which are more useful for one person to cook.

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my point is, if you want to cook, say, a mess-tin for one person, a pot of rice and basic heating of sardines, for say, 3D2N of camping, which kind of stove better in the long run.

This post has been edited by fablefox: Sep 15 2014, 12:47 AM

IC you are referring to the CampinGaz by Evergreen distributors.

I never use Maple Leaf before but it seems like those using the steamboat cylinders. I prefer to use CV470 all the time even though it is slightly heavy.

Still a cooking stove in the end. Most important for your end, does weight matters to you?

in the long run, yeah, weight matters.

i know that the screw on type is around RM70 - RM100 while fire maple brand starting already around RM 250 (or around that).

I already did my research on solid fuel and I heard it was toxic in a way. I don't know how many people know that, because last time i went window shopping for stove, someone bought a bag pack full of solid fuel.

at the moment i'm more inclined to maple leaf type of stove. easy source of fuel, and while flamable, are less explosive (compared to gas) and not too close to source of fire (compared the screw on type).

but then there is also liquid alcohol based stove, but i don't have much info on that yet.

This post has been edited by fablefox: Sep 15 2014, 12:01 PM