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post Feb 28 2009, 11:24 AM, updated 15y ago

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to all those people out there who think they are supporting the industry by buying anime in malaysia , you have been tricked and terribly misinformed .

anime license need to be purchased before you can sell any anime if not they are considered bootleg .

all shop in malaysia I have see so far they are selling bootleg from taiwan or hong kong . just see where they come from . go back home and google the company see if they are licensed to sell anime . I can bet with you they arent .

Im so sick and tired of seeing people buying anime from shop and say Im supporting the industry or Im buying original . if you want original go amazon , odex , madman , tokyopop to buy .

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post Feb 28 2009, 12:20 PM

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Agree with what u say, but the shipping cost (amazon , odex , madman , tokyopop) is expensive...
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post Feb 28 2009, 02:02 PM

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some of the anime sold here r also actually downloaded from internet. i've seen some which were fansubbed. ady stopped buyin anime a long time ago....ahaha
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post Feb 28 2009, 02:27 PM

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odex quality sucks. No wonder singaporeans are mad at them..
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post Feb 28 2009, 02:50 PM

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Unless the original distributors can offer something very cheap, high quality and easy to obtain; which is impossible for them.
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post Feb 28 2009, 04:17 PM

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Eh, really?
I though if the Anime case got the sticky"original stickers" it should has been considered original?

But are you sure from buying the one with the stickers* and high quality case arent original, since the 'cap ayam' offers the plastic case only.. sweat.gif
Cant blame people if its true since the anime case does look original.
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yup, i used to buy anime from shop too. And feel proud of myself supporting original. Only then i realise this matter and stop buying anymore DVDs. Now BT is my new life tongue.gif
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heck,some of my frens even worship Lambaian Filem(do i get the name right),saying they are buying ORI STUFF..
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post Feb 28 2009, 04:35 PM

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Are Malaysia/Singapore the only country that does not have a shop selling original anime?
It's kind of sad.

btw. What does BT means?
edit: and bootleg

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post Feb 28 2009, 05:11 PM

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BT mean Beli Tiruan or BiTorrent
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post Feb 28 2009, 05:20 PM

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Are the anime sold at popular original stuff? I've been buying stuff from there quite often.....
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post Feb 28 2009, 05:36 PM

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So, we never did actually support the industry huh?
I just hoped some other country can get a hold on ORI anime easily,
so we wont actually see the end of anime. =X
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post Feb 28 2009, 05:52 PM

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bootleg = direct copy of the original (piratez)
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post Feb 28 2009, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Feb 28 2009, 05:20 PM)
Are the anime sold at popular original stuff? I've been buying stuff from there quite often.....
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no ...

check price at amazon or something
original would cost way more
and have way less episode per disc

QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Feb 28 2009, 04:35 PM)
Are Malaysia/Singapore the only country that does not have a shop selling original anime?
It's kind of sad.

btw. What does BT means?
edit: and bootleg
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singapore selling original , odex do license anime

bt mean bit torent and bootleg mean pirated material

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If the original comes, it will be years& expansive. And almost everyone who is seeing Kara no Kyoukai now downloads it from the net. Bleach too. So you want to wait few years for your bleach episode...

Not everyone can fork out money. Like not everyone can buy Win Xp Pro. But almost everyone use it pirated or not.

So better live with it.
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its ok if buyin ori (limited edition stuff) from amazon or wat
but buying at malaysia..speedy videoss....to lameeeee....
buy at kotaraya cheap2 or BT hi def version is moreeeeee cooolll
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That sticker even wrote KPD Tulen bla bla bla..
How the hell did they even get it sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Feb 28 2009, 08:09 PM)
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That sticker even wrote KPD Tulen bla bla bla..
How the hell did they even get it  sweat.gif
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Internet?
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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Feb 28 2009, 08:09 PM)
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That sticker even wrote KPD Tulen bla bla bla..
How the hell did they even get it  sweat.gif
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that sticker cost some cent. You want to sell? you have to stick that.
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Feb 28 2009, 07:49 PM)
If the original comes, it will be years& expansive. And almost everyone who is seeing Kara no Kyoukai now downloads it from the net. Bleach too. So you want to wait few years for your bleach episode...

Not everyone can fork out money. Like not everyone can buy Win Xp Pro. But almost everyone use it pirated or not.

So better live with it.
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You saying that is okay for me to rob you because I am poor and have to wait for years to get my meal? So you can live with it? Can you?

biggrin.gif

And I just got my Kara no Kyokai DVD 1-3 Limited Edition original. Already placed order for Movie 4 and 5. Because I can.

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Feb 28 2009, 06:49 PM)
Not everyone can fork out money. Like not everyone can buy Win Xp Pro. But almost everyone use it pirated or not.
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Actually the right statement is most Malaysians are not willing to fork out money for these stuff.

Then it comes it issue of not being well informed (of what is tulen and 'tulen').

For the average joe who seeks to enjoy random animation now and then, it's ok if they wanna claim it's original. For ppl who know, purchase and deliberately boast about it, it's another story lo. Well, just my opinion anyway.


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i got fukken quality of subs when i bought few animes coz lazy download
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post Feb 28 2009, 08:56 PM

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I have given up hope on the 'original' DVDs being sold in Malaysia after I was duped into paying big money for Wolf's Rain OVA (very nice packaging/tulen stickers/yaddayadda) - I fell for the trap and learned from it. It was after that incident that I finally realise that there is no ori anime sold in Malaysia. Well, at least I know for sure that in KL there's none


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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Feb 28 2009, 08:09 PM)
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That sticker even wrote KPD Tulen bla bla bla..
How the hell did they even get it  sweat.gif
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this sticker can be purchased according to my research


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QUOTE(jubz @ Feb 28 2009, 08:40 PM)
Actually the right statement is most Malaysians are not willing to fork out money for these stuff.

Then it comes it issue of not being well informed (of what is tulen and 'tulen').

For the average joe who seeks to enjoy random animation now and then, it's ok if they wanna claim it's original. For ppl who know, purchase and deliberately boast about it, it's another story lo. Well, just my opinion anyway.
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the reason why I open this thread is to education and create awareness among anime watcher in malaysia
I hope the support for this piracy to be stop , anymore and they will gain more power and money
they are one of the reason why anime industry is shrinking

imagine you support poacher , sooner or later tiger , ponggoli and many other uniqe flora and fauna to be extinct

I believe in giving somehing to the younger generation rather than selfishly using everything now

QUOTE(Cenarius @ Feb 28 2009, 08:42 PM)
i got fukken quality of subs when i bought few animes coz lazy download
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where you get your sub from ?

QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Feb 28 2009, 08:56 PM)
I have given up hope on the 'original' DVDs being sold in Malaysia after I was duped into paying big money for Wolf's Rain OVA (very nice packaging/tulen stickers/yaddayadda) - I fell for the trap and learned from it. It was after that incident that I finally realise that there is no ori anime sold in Malaysia. Well, at least I know for sure that in KL there's none
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*pet pet chibitenko*

alot have been in that trap before , let your experience be warning to those want to buy

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Actually I've seen Odex Animes being sold locally, but since the packaging quality is equivalent to bootlegs, no comments there how you differentiate.. All I know is that if that shop has Odex Titles, it will be more expensive than bootlegs.

Some US publishing house like Viz Media and stuff also available, though really expensive. like 10-20times that of bootleg prices.

Unless there's people here who thinks they can make a living doing legit subs for legit products, don't think anything will happen/change.
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Huh? can get the stickers for few cents?
Wow.. shocking.gif
That's new..
I never know.. sad.gif

Crap,
no wonder the price for 'fake' original seems way near the pure fake price..
Thanks for the info,
Keep away from the stickers huh..

Info,
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=352018
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/451806

Well, i did try googling for 'videostar animation' (distributor)
it ended up, .With This,no other link.
It's Fake..
since the episode was 1-13 with only 2 DVD inside..


*ouch* The moment of truth always hurt.. *ouch*

Still, collecting big box that contain anime DVD sure feels nice(feels like ori) rather than a plain plastic. doh.gif

PS: can show me some real price+link for anime from tokyopop? just curios

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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Feb 28 2009, 09:23 PM)
Huh? can get the stickers for few cents?
Wow..  shocking.gif
That's new..
I never know..  sad.gif

Crap,
no wonder the price for 'fake' original seems way near the pure fake price..
Thanks for the info,
Keep away from the stickers huh..

Info,
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=352018
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/451806

Well, i did try googling for 'videostar animation' (distributor)
it ended up, .With This,no other link.
It's Fake..
since the episode was 1-13 with only 2 DVD inside..
*ouch* The moment of truth always hurt.. *ouch*

Still, collecting big box that contain anime DVD sure feels nice(feels like ori) rather than a plain plastic.  doh.gif

PS: can show me some real price+link for anime from tokyopop? just curios
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http://www.madman.com.au/actions/catalogue...625&method=view

around 200 havent plus tax shipping etc and compare this to local

http://www.animetech.net/dvd/detail.php?co...38E&catalogue=D

can you see the different ?

aspect ratio : madman is 16.9 , animetech is 4.3
disc : madman is 6 , animetech is 3


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Most Malaysians are cheap.

I am cheap. Therefore, I only buy DVDs from pirated stuffs.
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I wonder why wont they sell it cheaper, and go global.

12800Yen for complete anime,
that's like.. *speechless*
Even some other country goes for bootleg.

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QUOTE(guest18 @ Feb 28 2009, 09:03 PM)
where you get your sub from ?
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i mean, i bought the original anime sold in msia, and the subs were horrible.
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QUOTE(guest18 @ Feb 28 2009, 09:03 PM)
this sticker can be purchased according to my research


Added on February 28, 2009, 9:14 pm

the reason why I open this thread is to education and create awareness among anime watcher in malaysia
I hope the support for this piracy to be stop , anymore and they will gain more power and money
they are one of the reason why anime industry is shrinking

imagine you support poacher , sooner or later tiger , ponggoli and many other uniqe flora and fauna to be extinct

I believe in giving somehing to the younger generation rather than selfishly using everything now
where you get your sub from ?
*pet pet chibitenko*

alot have been in that trap before , let your experience be warning to those want to buy
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Kena duped into buying so-called original DVDs is bad enough - adding insult to injury, the subtitles are horrendous! Direct chinese-english translation or nonsensical subs.

Truth be told, I've BTed most of my anime nowadays. *strokes 1TB HDD* Instead of paying money for sub-quality bootlegged DVDs, might as well go for FOC high-quality subs.

BTW, I'm sure most of you guys know that alot (well, most) of the anime OSTs being sold are bootleg OSTs ya? I also learned the hard way after buying the 'original' OSTs from Tower Records. Oh well - I'm wiser now flex.gif


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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Feb 28 2009, 09:23 PM)
Huh? can get the stickers for few cents?
Wow..  shocking.gif
That's new..
I never know..  sad.gif

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whistling.gif You can purchase anything for a price in Malaysia. whistling.gif Stickers are just sap sap sui.

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QUOTE(guest18 @ Feb 28 2009, 11:24 AM)
to all those people out there who think they are supporting the industry by buying anime in malaysia , you have been tricked and terribly misinformed .

anime license need to be purchased before you can sell any anime if not they are considered bootleg .

all shop in malaysia I have see so far they are selling bootleg from taiwan or hong kong . just see where they come from . go back home and google the company see if they are licensed to sell anime . I can bet with you they arent .

Im so sick and tired of seeing people buying anime from shop and say Im supporting the industry or Im buying original . if you want original go amazon , odex , madman , tokyopop to buy .

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=352018 <- LordSeta's Guide to identifying Bootleg Anime DVD
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Added on February 28, 2009, 10:56 pmplus in my case if I realy like an anime/tv series i will do both download and buy it

download-easy to watch, quality better...
buy-at least doing something to support "ori" stuff rather then kepo2 only or bias only certain part like support ori games/software/etc.. while pirating other stuff is ok doh.gif

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Feb 28 2009, 10:48 PM)
Kena duped into buying so-called original DVDs is bad enough - adding insult to injury, the subtitles are horrendous! Direct chinese-english translation or nonsensical subs.

Truth be told, I've BTed most of my anime nowadays. *strokes 1TB HDD* Instead of paying money for sub-quality bootlegged DVDs, might as well go for FOC high-quality subs.

BTW, I'm sure most of you guys know that alot (well, most) of the anime OSTs being sold are bootleg OSTs ya? I also learned the hard way after buying the 'original' OSTs from Tower Records. Oh well - I'm wiser now  flex.gif


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whistling.gif You can purchase anything for a price in Malaysia.  whistling.gif  Stickers are just sap sap sui.
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I see before people selling those sultan car badge whistling.gif
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you know thw original one was released with japanese labels.. plus it won't have any subs for u to read
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you know thw original one was released with japanese labels.. plus it won't have any subs for u to read
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zaman jahiliah dulu masa sekolah menengah. Baru tau masa macam mana nak beza bila masuk uni.. sweat.gif
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original from tbs or fuji tv
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I have original shin getter armageddon dvd. Imported. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Feb 28 2009, 08:09 PM)
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That sticker even wrote KPD Tulen bla bla bla..
How the hell did they even get it  sweat.gif
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That looks like midori no hibi.


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QUOTE(wellenstan @ Mar 1 2009, 01:17 AM)
That looks like midori no hibi.
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It is Midori no Hibi.

Anyway, there's two types of original I guess. One from Japan (no subs) and those with english subs/dubs like Viz Media.

Sometimes it did cross my mind to find a group of anime/manga fans who wants to buy stuff from Amazon and then share the shipping costs together. However, some of the kiasu people complained that they only purchase 1 boxset and shouldn't share equal costs with those who purchase 2-3 boxsets doh.gif
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lol, now only want to make a hoo-haa about pirated disks.... last time some1 tried to do the same thing and tell ppl its not ori but no ppl bothered..

lets be real, most peeps here wont bother shelling out 'proper retail' price for originals, and will never until the gov properly enforces IP laws which is pretty much a never laugh.gif

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lol then i don't want to buy anime from malaysia liao lo XD
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Actually can buy original from malaysia. I remember a store in Times Square have a small section for the original imports, but i ll tell you, they're not cheap as the bootleg one. Suncomic also can buy ori, search the rack far behind, the price also not cheap. You can also talk to the staff about importing any ori dvd.
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Buying anime in Malaysia is a joke. I'd rather buy US-licensed manga and novels and support the original creators.
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QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 1 2009, 03:26 PM)
Buying anime in Malaysia is a joke. I'd rather buy US-licensed manga and novels and support the original creators.
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joke or not, its way better then only downloading and pro-claim support teh ori creator doh.gif
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Hey guys, is it possible to pre-order US licensed manga from Borders or KinoKuniya? There's several titles that Viz Media had already licensed but it's not available on Amazon. Please advice ya.
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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Mar 1 2009, 03:58 PM)
Hey guys, is it possible to pre-order US licensed manga from Borders or KinoKuniya? There's several titles that Viz Media had already licensed but it's not available on Amazon. Please advice ya.
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I don't know if you can pre-order from Kino, but you can contact them and see if this can be done.
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rather than buying them at low quality, i prefer the subbed ones tongue.gif


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of course, since it is free right?
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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Mar 1 2009, 04:55 PM)
I don't know if you can pre-order from Kino, but you can contact them and see if this can be done.
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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Mar 1 2009, 03:58 PM)
Hey guys, is it possible to pre-order US licensed manga from Borders or KinoKuniya? There's several titles that Viz Media had already licensed but it's not available on Amazon. Please advice ya.
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for sure u can order it from them.. we got pre ordered compace directly from japan every months for us there at kino... if u want to buy the original. go there
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how about those american dvd with region lock?, it's original but it's not suppose to be view by this part of asian region. even if we use region free lock won't it still means we are watching it illegally?
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Mar 2 2009, 09:48 AM)
how about those american dvd with region lock?, it's original but it's not suppose to be view by this part of asian region. even if we use region free lock won't it still means we are watching it illegally?
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Technically yes.....but the reason for region lock was supposedly to lock movies sold in "cheaper area" i.e. Asia, SEA from being sold in more "Expensive area" like the USA, Europe. But here we are buying expensive region 1 from USA so I think it helps them more than it impedes them. whistling.gif
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how about those american dvd with region lock?, it's original but it's not suppose to be view by this part of asian region. even if we use region free lock won't it still means we are watching it illegally?
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Hmm but those are in japanese. I was looking for the english version. You know anyone ordering english translated manga?

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manga?
Can easily get english Version from Kinokuniya ar..
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manga?
Can easily get english Version from Kinokuniya ar..
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manga?
Can easily get english Version from Kinokuniya ar..
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Hmm, I checked for the mangaka that I wanted but it's not available. Worst is that I check in Amazon also don't have but I read online that Viz Media already licensed that manga. Maybe it's not translated yet?
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Hmm, I checked for the mangaka that I wanted but it's not available. Worst is that I check in Amazon also don't have but I read online that Viz Media already licensed that manga. Maybe it's not translated yet?
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lots of manga they only took the license but they never really translated it, they declare all the titles cos they have an exclusive agreement with the company japan manga publisher... they will list the title but it's up to them to translate and sell or not.
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Mar 2 2009, 04:11 PM)
lots of manga they only took the license but they never really translated it, they declare all the titles cos they have an exclusive agreement with the company japan manga publisher... they will list the title but it's up to them to translate and sell or not.
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well thats one of teh reason why people goes to "on-line" translate manga/novels or local ones like kreko/etc..

price also sweat.gif teh gap is quite huge for local "ori" bm/chinese translate manga compare to "international one"
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lots of manga they only took the license but they never really translated it, they declare all the titles cos they have an exclusive agreement with the company japan manga publisher... they will list the title but it's up to them to translate and sell or not.
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doh.gif Deng... No wonder I can't find some of the titles that's been licensed by Viz Media laa. Some already licensed for several years but still can't find it on Amazon. Now want to finish the manga also cannot. (T_T)
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Actually... There are original animes here, licensed and authourised, but they are few and sometimes rare and can only be found at either Sp**dy or EzyV*deo (because of licensing problem), mostly...

I'll list some of it that I've found, seen or bought -

Karas: The Prophercy and Karas: Revelation - released by Innoform, region 3. I am a big fan of Karas, I've actually collected all 6 volumes of the Limited 2-disc Edition from Hong kong (by AVP, original japanese transfer), the collector set from US (by Manga) and yeah, a special collector's edition that comes with a Karas figurine (by Innoform, priced around RM 70-80)...

Steamboy and Appleseed - released by Innoform as well.


Appleseed Ex Machina - licensed by Warner, distributed by Alliance Entertainment which is under Spe*dy... Yeah, that Sp**dy...

Final Fantasy Advent Children - licensed by Sony Entertainment, distributed by their local authorized distributor which is Mediamax.

And yeah, Bleach is actually licensed in Malaysia to the one and only Berjaya HVN... It's an 'indirect disctribution' (I think...), not from japan but through a company named Medialink which is located in Hongkong, so don't be surprised if ya find an extra audio track which is cantonese dubbed... I remember seeing old stock of Bleach volume 1 (1 disc - 4 episode) somewhere, and it comes with a insert - a free poster.

Shonen Omnyouji and Keikaishi (by PMP) are both licensed authorized distribution as well. But, they seemed to be lacking the original japanesed audio... Which is ashame...

PS: Best way to spot a local original is focus on company like PMP, Innoform, HVN, Alliance Entertainment, Mediamax and Movie Magic. Finding logos\trademark of the anime production company, original distributor(japan based), licensor and ect are important as well...

Anyway, I am an average joe as well, but I still manage to save some money to get myself original stuff from amazon\rightstuff and ect, well, maybe it's a little slow, but it's better than bootleg or BT, for me atleast... tongue.gif

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And yeah, Bleach is actually licensed in Malaysia to the one and only Berjaya HVN... It's an 'indirect disctribution' (I think...), not from japan but through a company named Medialink which is located in Hongkong, so don't be surprised if ya find an extra audio track which is cantonese dubbed... I remember seeing old stock of Bleach volume 1 (1 disc - 4 episode) somewhere, and it comes with a insert - a free poster.
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well if it's licensed from hong kong company, don't it means that the hongkong counterpart illegally sell the license that japan company given exclusively to develop in HK, Taiwan and China market?
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well if it's licensed from hong kong company, don't it means that the hongkong counterpart illegally sell the license that japan company given exclusively to develop in HK, Taiwan and China market?
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Not really... Medialink is actually a licensing agency, which is probably given the right to distributed (licensing) the product exclusively in region 3 which include malaysia, singapore, thailand, taiwan and hongkong... China is not included since they are region 6 (not one of us). And yeah, Japan is region 2. This regional system is more or less created by the japanese, so blame them...

And, yeah, medialink won the Best Asian Licensing Agency of the Year awards last year...

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Actually... There are original animes here, licensed and authourised, but they are few and sometimes rare and can only be found at either Sp**dy or EzyV*deo (because of licensing problem), mostly...

I'll list some of it that I've found, seen or bought -

Karas: The Prophercy and Karas: Revelation - released by Innoform, region 3. I am a big fan of Karas, I've actually collected all 6 volumes of the Limited 2-disc Edition from Hong kong (by AVP, original japanese transfer), the collector set from US (by Manga) and yeah, a special collector's edition that comes with a Karas figurine (by Innoform, priced around RM 70-80)...

Steamboy and Appleseed - released by Innoform as well.
Appleseed Ex Machina - licensed by Warner, distributed by Alliance Entertainment which is under Spe*dy... Yeah, that Sp**dy...

Final Fantasy Advent Children - licensed by Sony Entertainment, distributed by their local authorized distributor which is Mediamax.

And yeah, Bleach is actually licensed in Malaysia to the one and only Berjaya HVN... It's an 'indirect disctribution' (I think...), not from japan but through a company named Medialink which is located in Hongkong, so don't be surprised if ya find an extra audio track which is cantonese dubbed... I remember seeing old stock of Bleach volume 1 (1 disc - 4 episode) somewhere, and it comes with a insert - a free poster.

Shonen Omnyouji and Keikaishi (by PMP) are both licensed authorized distribution as well. But, they seemed to be lacking the original japanesed audio... Which is ashame...

PS: Best way to spot a local original is focus on company like PMP, Innoform, HVN, Alliance Entertainment, Mediamax and Movie Magic. Finding logos\trademark of the anime production company, original distributor(japan based), licensor and ect are important as well...

Anyway, I am an average joe as well, but I still manage to save some money to get myself original stuff from amazon\rightstuff and ect, well, maybe it's a little slow, but it's better than bootleg or BT, for me atleast... tongue.gif
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please provide me link to support and proof that those company you mentioned have legally license those anime for selling purpose

by this I Mean

I mean proof of warner give alliance entertainment right to distribute applespeed
innoform licensed steamboy and appleseed for distribution
mediamax have been asked by sony to sell ff advent children
berjaya hvn have licensed bleach for distribution in malaysia
pmp have license shonen and keikaishi for distribution

any licensing that is happening will instantly become headline and news in many anime news network , finding legimate proof should be easy
if you cant find any IM sorry but those are fake and pirate .
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well thats one of teh reason why people goes to "on-line" translate manga/novels or local ones like kreko/etc..

price also  sweat.gif teh gap is quite huge for local "ori" bm/chinese translate manga compare to "international one"
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take example on one piece/budak getah:

RM24 for original at kino
RM5.8 for translated at any book stalls
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take example on one piece/budak getah:

RM24 for original at kino
RM5.8 for translated at any book stalls
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LOL Malay version of One Piece is licensed lar (if you read SBS section in the tankoubon, Oda did mentioned Malaysia as one of the countries that have OP translated in their respective native language), and it's RM 4.30. The original one (I assumed you talked about the japanese version) is RM 24 due to difference in currencies.

BTW, AFAIK, Comics House got license for all of the manga they printed.

Though the "international" one is more exp. at least you will get the uncensored version whistling.gif
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LOL Malay version of One Piece is licensed lar (if you read SBS section in the tankoubon, Oda did mentioned Malaysia as one of the countries that have OP translated in their respective native language), and it's RM 4.30. The original one (I assumed you talked about the japanese version) is RM 24 due to difference in currencies.

BTW, AFAIK, Comics House got license for all of the manga they printed.

Though the "international" one is more exp. at least you will get the uncensored version whistling.gif
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actually i was talking about how u can pick either original japanese and translated malay. it's up to you to choose what u want to read
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sweat.gif Well, we are actually lacking a 'proper and more official channel' for anime actually, anime are just the 'minority' here and quick to be ignore... And more Malaysia company don't really update their website anyway, and they are always lacking of information... But, there are still other way...

News About Mediamax being the sole distributor for Sony Entertainment locally - from starAll Sony Entertainment releases are distributed by Mediamax, there is no other(mediamax doesn't distributed other products beside Sony Ent's as well)... Appleseed Ex Machina is licensed to Warner in region 1 & 3, not sure about region 2 which is UK.

Mediamax official Site

This About Us page in Speedy's new official site has an article which show that Alliance Entertainment is the sole licensed distributor for Warner locally, Movie Magic for Fox and MGM, again there should be no other...
Click n' Scroll down to near the end to read about Speedy's About US...
Again, Final Fantasy Advent Children is released by Sony Entertainment worldwide, so the only sole distributor here is Alliance Entertainment.

Berjaya HVN is the largest distributor locally and here is the list...
Berjaya HVN's Official Website - product Breach belongs to the other studios here... So again, lack of information...

But, found here is the same release for Bleach I see selling under HVN's license locally, Poh Kim SingaporeBerjaya HVN operate across malaysia and singapore, so it might as well be 'parallel import' since HVN does not own the license for Bleach in Singapore (checked at HVN's singapore site)...

Anyway, this is the page for Innoform Media's Karas item page-
Karas The Prophecy

The PMP entertainment part is to blur due to lack of information (the only certain thing is the E-muse logo on their release - E-muse is a licensing company in taiwan), sorry...

I hope these above are useful though...

One thing is quite certain though, any legitimate distributor doesn't distribute different animes from different company all at a time - point to L*mb*ian F*lm, An*pl*x, V*sc8p* and ect, simply because licensee are expensive and exclusive.

PS: Anyway, I am not doing this to get people to buy 'em, anyone not confident with our distributor here can just try other option like buying online (or continue with their DL), just don't buy too much at a time - something that we've gotten used to with those so called 'ori' anime here - 1-50 end in one whole box inside 2 disc...?!!
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wow you really go and search sweat.gif

but anyway sad news is that even if they are licensed to sell sony and whatever title , they still can sell anime illegally bootleg from hk or taiwan , nobody would really care anyway laugh.gif

furthermore , most anime have max of 4 eps per disc and usually cost you arm and leg

well it is up to you to buy or not from those shop but I highly advice people not to . unless you want to suffer with hk eng translate or middle of the show got written this is a free fansub tongue.gif
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I am a little surprised how uniformed and naive (and also dumb if you want to put it harsher) the mass is. It really shouldn't take a genius to realize all the "tulen" chopped stuff are just pirated things, most people should be able to observe how large the price gap is between the actual legit stuff you can get online and the stuff you can buy at your local shop. The reason why the pirated things are able to get the tulen sign is because they are legitimate copies from taiwan or china, but they aren't legitimately produced in taiwan or china in the first place, to put it another way it is a legit copy of a pirated product.

And personally I find it worse to buy pirated things than downloading them. By downloading it illegally, the original maker loses money. By paying money for illegal copies, the original maker loses money and the pirates earn money for doing nothing.

So stop and think again before you hop to your local SPEED store thinking of buying a few series or soundtracks next time.
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Do vscape have licensed to anime OST? I saw some OST selling at RM15 but with cheap printing..
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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Mar 3 2009, 07:16 PM)
LOL Malay version of One Piece is licensed lar (if you read SBS section in the tankoubon, Oda did mentioned Malaysia as one of the countries that have OP translated in their respective native language), and it's RM 4.30. The original one (I assumed you talked about the japanese version) is RM 24 due to difference in currencies.

BTW, AFAIK, Comics House got license for all of the manga they printed.

Though the "international" one is more exp. at least you will get the uncensored version whistling.gif
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lol for uncensored one can get online smile.gif imo should be ok to be collected for those who have the "local-ori" manga smile.gif

same thing happen to anime in most cases..

buy "local ori" but with censored thinggy wink.gif doh.gif but download teh uncensored version for another collection/viewing purposed brows.gif


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QUOTE(Depthcharge101 @ Mar 3 2009, 09:38 PM)
I am a little surprised how uniformed and naive (and also dumb if you want to put it harsher) the mass is. It really shouldn't take a genius to realize all the "tulen" chopped stuff are just pirated things, most people should be able to observe how large the price gap is between the actual legit stuff you can get online and the stuff you can buy at your local shop. The reason why the pirated things are able to get the tulen sign is because they are legitimate copies from taiwan or china, but they aren't legitimately produced in taiwan or china in the first place, to put it another way it is a legit copy of a pirated product.

And personally I find it worse to buy pirated things than downloading them. By downloading it illegally, the original maker loses money. By paying money for illegal copies, the original maker loses money and the pirates earn money for doing nothing.

So stop and think again before you hop to your local SPEED store thinking of buying a few series or soundtracks next time.
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IMO other aspect should also take into consideration, such as average salary that a malaysian earn vs teh price of "ori" items that in international market.

At least they has tried to buy "ori". Btw are j-dorama applicable as well?


Added on March 3, 2009, 10:44 pmwhich remind me... a cozen of my fren goes to singapore last year, in her bag few "bootleg" anime and some burn anime dvd (download ones) and at teh "kastam/checkup" kena tahan, thank goodness she tell teh officer in-charge that the burn anime is her backup, and they let her pass sweat.gif if not... doh.gif

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Mar 3 2009, 07:11 PM)
take example on one piece/budak getah:

RM24 for original at kino
RM5.8 for translated at any book stalls
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Well, in my case I'm looking for Yoshihara Yuki's manga - Since most of her titles are considered smutty (there are several josei titles which are very good), there's no way it's gonna be translated and distributed locally. I really appreciate some of her works and don't mind to fork out the money to buy her manga (as a collection le). There are some mangas worth paying the big moolah for. Damn Viz Media licensing her manga but not translating it. Damn them.

BTW, you guys who bought original translated manga - do they change the japanese names into english names or are the names retained? I hate it when they start giving them english names. If that's the case, I sure as heck won't buy the manga.

As for Speedy selling original anime - I highly doubt it. Maybe selected outlets, I don't know, but most of the Speedy shops sells bootleg anime and same goes for Tower Records (bootleg anime and OSTs).

Heck, I paid RM60+ for a LOTR extended version VCD (ok, so I was in a hurry to watch it and couldn't wait for the DVD) and the quality was so freakin bad that I stomp back to Speedy and demanded a refund. Knew what the idiot told me? "Speedy punya quality memang macam tu le". Bad visual (very blur like pirated cinema version and you can't even read what the subtitles clearly) and bad audio (can barely hear what they're saying). Ever since that incident, I NEVER bought anything from Speedy ever again.

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Tower Records shut down worldwide years back, the Tower Records here is no longer the same entity, they are just using the name.

QUOTE(guest18 @ Mar 3 2009, 09:25 PM)
wow you really go and search sweat.gif

but anyway sad news is that even if they are licensed to sell sony and whatever title , they still can sell anime illegally bootleg from hk or taiwan , nobody would really care anyway laugh.gif

furthermore , most anime have max of 4 eps per disc and usually cost you arm and leg

well it is up to you to buy or not from those shop but I highly advice people not to . unless you want to suffer with hk eng translate or middle of the show got written this is a free fansub tongue.gif
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I don't really need to search, they have passed my way a long time ago... - I have been buying vcd (and later, dvd) for the last eight years starting from 'ori', fake and bootlegs, I stopped and convert to buying only licensed and authorised stuff nowadays (with an exception of a few 'ori' now and then because of my 'hunger' for some specific anime, but will replace 'em in the future.) So, yeah, I have to walk a long path to reach where I am today - wasting thousands on fakes and bootlegs, I think... Got cheated many times too... doh.gif

I think people misunderstood how Sp**dy operate, as a whole Sp**dy consist of several businesses including distributor, copyright holder, and 'brick and mortal outlet', and yeah, now, or currently, online merchant. - with an expensive shipping rate for foreigners...

As a distribution company, Sp**dy own two susidiaries - Alliance Entertainment which is the sole licensed distributor for Warner Bros and Warner Bros only. Movie Magic which is the sole licensed distributor for Fox and MGM. They don't sell 'em, they only distribute 'em to shop and their Sp**dy outlets. Any Warner or Fox's title
that is not distribute by 'em is totally not legit except for 'parallel import'.

Sp**dy (Alliance Ent. & Movie Magic) does not made, produce or manufacture their dvds or well vcds (avoid them anyway), the whole content or package is supply by the Warner Bros or Fox - same goes for Hongkong or Taiwan, in this case here Deltamac for both, mostly (equivalent to HVN here -malaysia and singapore)... All region 3 Warner Bros, Fox and MGM dvd release all same for Malaysia, Singapore, Hongkong and Taiwan (even Thailand too) - same content, quality, package.

But... One exception is the extra merchandise like the giftset or steelcase - need to pay extra fee for 'em, so it differ from country to country within region 3. Heck, I got the Limited 'batpod' edition of Dark Knight, and yeah, it's the same and 20++ bucks cheaper than getting it from Y*sasi*\Pl*yasi* despite the annoying stickers.

As a copyright holders, Speedy holds broadcast and screening copyrights for tv and cinema, heck, golden screen cinema is actually licensed under them...

As a 'brick and mortar' outlet, Sp**dy sell stuff that are supplied by other supplier as well, supplier like LF, Vsc*p* and ect.

Actual licensed release are always fewer, just a few new titles, some old stocks and less than 0.1%% of animes or even less (Warner, Fox and MGM don't do much anime, or well, probably none for Fox and MGM, but Warner did licensed Ex Machina and they did do Batman: Gotham Knight), and there's a limit imposed (let say, 10,000 for the whole malaysia?) by the licensor to the total amount of dvds to be distribute. And then even after adding in the stuff supplied by other legit distributors like HVN, Innoform, PMP, AOE, Multimedia, they are still really the minority here comparing with the other stuff supplied by other company.

That's the reason why more than 80% of what Sp**dy is selling is just 'ori' with stickers is because stuff supplied by those other company are not authorized - not need to pay licensed fee, no distribution limit imposed, so they can just made more and more and more, without any worry or ect... The problem is the law, the law that is never enforce strict enough locally - Just close one eye lah, no problemo, easier for all...

Anyway, I am not encouraging people to buy at Sp**dy, it's just that next time ya happen to be miraculously inside Sp**dy or any other video shop, go look at the region 3 release and then compare them to other 'ori' - look at the back cover, mostly the mess of stuff below, ya shall see the differences between an authorized release and the so called 'ori'.

And yeah, bad customer service is a common thing here locally anyway, and then there's the 'no refund, change only' rules that doesn't seem to apply elsewhere beside here... The best way to get dvd locally (if ya want to), is to wait, patiently, do your homework, search the announcement for official region 3 release especially Hongkong (our release date is close to them), use HVN's site if it's a Paramount, Touchstone, Buena Vista release (there should a banner for new release especially the popular ones), read about the spec and info if ya can find them and compare them with the region 1.

At the end of all of that, go to the store and find the dvd and then ask 'nice' staff to open and test it - it's your right as a consumer.

PS: Update: This is Innoform.

News about Innoform acquiring Alliance Entertainment Singapore - not to be confuse with Alliance Entertainment Malaysia...

PSS: Although 1 volume of a single original release DVD might just contain 4 episodes and it is a-hell-expensive, one can always wait for the eventual Thinpack especially since US company are starting to put back the same extra nowadays... Waiting for price drop, special offer or going direct to Rightstuf (my anime heaven - by anime fans for anime fans) is a good idea as well.

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BTW, you guys who bought original translated manga - do they change the japanese names into english names or are the names retained? I hate it when they start giving them english names. If that's the case, I sure as heck won't buy the manga.


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yeah i bought many mangas such as FMA and GTO, they didn't change their original name. It's only on Chinese translated manga
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The only way we can afford cheap original anime is when local distribution companies buy the licenses and distribute it for malaysian market. The problem is most likely it will be malay subtitles since majority of people seem to prefer BM as their language. If its english its harder since english usually means region 1 so its hard for them to sell the license at a cheaper region 3 price if your anime will be subtitled in english.

And i'm sure ppl know about the ODEX saga with their crappy translations and VCD-only releases.
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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 4 2009, 04:29 PM)
The only way we can afford cheap original anime is when local distribution companies buy the licenses and distribute it for malaysian market. The problem is most likely it will be malay subtitles since majority of people seem to prefer BM as their language. If its english its harder since english usually means region 1 so its hard for them to sell the license at a cheaper region 3 price if your anime will be subtitled in english.

And i'm sure ppl know about the ODEX saga with their crappy translations and VCD-only releases.
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chinese translation also got but one thing i didn't like about malay translated manga was on the censorial part lol.. it's too much
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Chinese is translated by HK.

And i can't read chinese. sad.gif


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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 4 2009, 05:06 PM)
Chinese is translated by HK.

And i can't read chinese. sad.gif
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Chinese is translated by HK.

And i can't read chinese. sad.gif
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Last time out of desperation, I bought chinese translated manga and had to half read manga-half read dictionary ( can only read simple chinese characters ). Imagine that - Fushigi Yuugi vol 1-18. doh.gif

Malay translated manga likes to censor by putting on 'bodysuits' on naked body, even though the said naked body are only the outer silhouette. At least if there's some shounen-ai-ish or shoujo-ai-ish dialog, they don't change it.

If there's good malay translator, I seriously don't mind to pay for a locally distributed original anime. However, after watching countless shows on Astro/TV, I seriously doubt there's any good japanese-malay translator (since the english-malay ones do only crappy to tolerably translations)

"Sleep tight, cupcake" = Selamat malam, kek manis <-- ( sweet cake... doh.gif Goodness )

(some friends commenting on bride's gown's length) "...the train looks great!" = keretapi ni nampak bagus! doh.gif

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 4 2009, 04:29 PM)
The only way we can afford cheap original anime is when local distribution companies buy the licenses and distribute it for malaysian market. The problem is most likely it will be malay subtitles since majority of people seem to prefer BM as their language. If its english its harder since english usually means region 1 so its hard for them to sell the license at a cheaper region 3 price if your anime will be subtitled in english.

And i'm sure ppl know about the ODEX saga with their crappy translations and VCD-only releases.
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Not anime, but does toku show count...? - A local company named M. Master holds the exclusive right for Ultraman Nexus from Tsuburaya, they apparently took their master source from the HK Region3 version (japanese audio + cantonese dubbed + chinese subtitle + original HK menu) which would of course be 'cheaper' (in case of copyright and license fees) and 'quicker' to produce.

They add in the malay dubbed audio track (from the one which was broadcasted at TV3), and put malay episode titles to the original menu (no additional subtitles though), then they got Sp**dy to distribute their product under Sp**dy with dvd cover and slipcase printed by Sp**dy (adding the logo). Have no doubt that Sp**dy also provided help during the manufacturing - providing the malay dubbed and factory press - Sp**dy holds the right for the tv broadcast.

And voila, each single volumes of the dvd (1st volume = 5 episodes, 2nd++ volume = 4 episodes, all 13 volumes) are selling for RM 19++ at Sp**dy, or even less in other shop, if ya know where to find 'em.

Each of the volume almost always released a month late following the release of their HK counterpart. So one can assumed that they do follow a contracted schedule.

I bought 'em but stopped after volume 3 because there was a glitches, went to the shop and try to get a change but outcome is still same - conclusion, either the master source they obtain was tainted or not much quality control... They should hired people to view the disc first... wink.gif

PS: I've bought some of the Odex copies before the Odex Fiasco... doh.gif

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For me, I buy oris for keeping sake. I hunt down those good animes and have them in glorious DVD/Bluray boxset is a great feeling for me. Best part is I still keep the subs too. LOL.

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I really lol'd at some of the so called ori subs. Tetsu becomes Iron. Straight translation!
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I really lol'd at some of the so called ori subs. Tetsu becomes Iron. Straight translation!
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I really lol'd at some of the so called ori subs. Tetsu becomes Iron. Straight translation!
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meh if truely ori = no sub XD  laugh.gif
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Hello, new Lowyat member here. Great to see true anime fans who want to support the creators. I'd like to do the same, but as everyone knows, quite hard to do in Malaysia. But are there any legitimate anime being sold that aren't imported? Obviously the title of this topic tells me no, but thesecond seems to suggest otherwise. I think a Sticky listing all the truly legitimate releases/distributers would be really useful. Any way to get that information easily? Check the official company's sites for each anime? O.o I'm aware of the "how to spot bootlegs" (or something) topic but I'm looking for official confirmation (for example, listing on the official sites).

According to thesecond:

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Those are okay, so does that mean all mediamax, innoform and HVN DVD/VCDs are legitimate? If not, which are legitimate and which are not? I just bought Paprika (VCD) at RM15.90 O.o Too good to be true. It says "pastikan yang asli", "stop piracy" and "hapuskan cetak rompak" on the back >_> Also, I got Advent Children from AnimeTech at RM60 (no indication of who's the distributer). Looks like I have to re-buy from Alliance Entertainment to give Square some money. Waitaminute, special edition (or something) Blu-ray coming out soon, maybe I'll get that biggrin.gif Even though I don't have any way to play Blu-rays : ( Maybe I'll buy and download. Yessssssss.

Looks like buying online from official sources is the only way to be sure. Even then, phishing abounds.... sigh.

As for the bump, i thought a new topic would be rather strange since I want to quote thesecond's post. There needs be a stickied topic on this issue!

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Well seconded to have the original Anime is via online, good to be true if you could buy those really original copy of an anime in malaysia. Not only the anime, the OST and singles I do not think so it is legal. So better order online and help to support the publisher.

(This matter remind me of buying those original Anime from Play Asia, not even the original DVD full release complete, at the local book shops sells completed whole season for super cheap price, and it says Original)
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Those are okay, so does that mean all mediamax, innoform and HVN DVD/VCDs are legitimate? If not, which are legitimate and which are not? I just bought Paprika (VCD) at RM15.90 O.o Too good to be true. It says "pastikan yang asli", "stop piracy" and "hapuskan cetak rompak" on the back >_> Also, I got Advent Children from AnimeTech at RM60 (no indication of who's the distributer). Looks like I have to re-buy from Alliance Entertainment to give Square some money. Waitaminute, special edition (or something) Blu-ray coming out soon, maybe I'll get that biggrin.gif Even though I don't have any way to play Blu-rays : ( Maybe I'll buy and download. Yessssssss.

Looks like buying online from official sources is the only way to be sure. Even then, phishing abounds.... sigh.
Mediamax only distribute Sony Entertainment's release and nothing else, so yeah, it is 100% okay - they're much more focus on the local bluray distribution these days anyway, which is freaking expensive... sweat.gif

Innoform is a part of Innoform Group Singapore (they have sales point here in malaysia) and HVN is a part Berjaya Group, so yeah it's no good for big corporate group like 'em to sell non-legitimate stuff.

Anyway, if a release doesn't show any indication of it's production, sponsor, licensor, manufacturer, international distributor, local sole distributor(one and only), rightful copyright holder for media content, print and stuff, it's 100% not legitimate, unless ya get 'em from the pirate\bootleg shop who 'mass-print' 'em from the original dvd cover but mostly bad quality print none the less... laugh.gif

For buying online, well, anime, atleast, I prefer rightstuf and amazon for the region 1 release, then there's playasia, yesasia and jsmall for region 3 release, with chinese sub...

If Sony Entertainment decides to release Advent Children in bluray to the rest of region A, ya betcha, mediamax would be the only sole distributor for it, well, here only... - but RM 140++ for a freakin bluray disc is still expensive compare to the discount stuff online...
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QUOTE(Shinne @ Mar 22 2009, 03:21 PM)
Well seconded to have the original Anime is via online, good to be true if you could buy those really original copy of an anime in malaysia. Not only the anime, the OST and singles I do not think so it is legal. So better order online and help to support the publisher.

(This matter remind me of buying those original Anime from Play Asia, not even the original DVD full release complete, at the local book shops sells completed whole season for super cheap price, and it says Original)
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The OSTs being sold in Speedy and Tower Records (and most of the music stores) are all bootleg OSTs. I've bought 30+ OSTs from Tower Records before I found out... shakehead.gif ( my fault for having blind faith that stores like Tower Records only sold ori stuff )

Anyway, if FFAC bluray is coming out, I'm gonna get it from Amazon - see what's the exchange rate is like first tho.... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Mar 22 2009, 08:41 PM)
The OSTs being sold in Speedy and Tower Records (and most of the music stores) are all bootleg OSTs. I've bought 30+ OSTs from Tower Records before I found out...  shakehead.gif ( my fault for having blind faith that stores like Tower Records only sold ori stuff )
Tower Records already filed for bankruptcy years back, the local Tower Records are more like in-names only... sweat.gif Most and all local store sell stuff that are supplied by supplier locally regardless of their 'true origin' as long as the 'authorized for sell sticker' is there...


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QUOTE(thesecond @ Mar 22 2009, 08:49 PM)
Tower Records already filed for bankruptcy years back, the local Tower Records are more like in-names only...  sweat.gif Most and all local store sell stuff that are supplied by supplier locally regardless of their 'true origin' as long as the 'authorized for sell sticker' is there...
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what? ori no sub?
then no ori for me
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what? ori no sub?
then no ori for me
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You can wait for it to be licensed by US companies to be released as R1 DVD with subtitles.
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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Mar 22 2009, 09:14 PM)
hmm.gif Hmm but the OSTs that I bought was around 8-9 years back (before they went bankrupt) I stopped buying OSTs and DVDs from local stores since 7 years ago.
Oh yeah, about those OSTs, there were never any real original anime OST been sold here anyway (except for third party imported one - imported from japan).

Well, the only way to get 'real' and 'cheap' (minus the import fees and taxes) anime OST locally is when local music & records distribution companies like Sony BGM or Warner to start taking interest in them and licensed them from their japanese counterpart (like avex and ect). - which is currently equals to... none...

Anime music and Anime itself is a totally different business even though they are related... - anime would be handle by the video media distribution company, while music would be handle by the records distribution company. sweat.gif


PS: And yeah, forgot, never buy by faith, buy with research and double checking... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(thesecond @ Mar 23 2009, 02:55 PM)
Oh yeah, about those OSTs, there were never any real original anime OST been sold here anyway (except for third party imported one - imported from japan).

Well, the only way to get 'real' and 'cheap' (minus the import fees and taxes) anime OST locally is when local music & records distribution companies like Sony BGM or Warner to start taking interest in them and licensed them from their japanese counterpart (like avex and ect). - which is currently equals to... none...

Anime music and Anime itself is a totally different business even though they are related... - anime would be handle by the video media distribution company, while music would be handle by the records distribution company. sweat.gif
PS: And yeah, forgot, never buy by faith, buy with research and double checking... laugh.gif
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That's why I learned my lesson the hard way laugh.gif That time (1999-2000ish), there weren't that many anime-related stuff being sold in KL, so whenever I see any anime VCDs and OSTs, I'd just grab 'em, thinking that it's original since it's being sold in Tower Records. It was only after I changed to Streamyx (I used dial-up in the early 2000) that I started doing research on the internet.

doh.gif Adoi, last time used to be so naive.
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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Mar 23 2009, 03:05 PM)
That's why I learned my lesson the hard way  laugh.gif That time (1999-2000ish), there weren't that many anime-related stuff being sold in KL, so whenever I see any anime VCDs and OSTs, I'd just grab 'em, thinking that it's original since it's being sold in Tower Records. It was only after I changed to Streamyx (I used dial-up in the early 2000) that I started doing research on the internet.

doh.gif Adoi, last time used to be so naive.
Somewhat same here - bought 'em since they are cheap and available... doh.gif sweat.gif Wasted nearly thousands on 'em until I got frustrated...
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if anyone's looking..i got some original GTO n Robotech DVDs to let go.. bought in Canada
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I need some clarification here.

Example : http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...=tab%3DWatching

Which I'm interested in buying this Anime DVD from malaysia but after reading this thread I'm having second thoughts.

So in that ebay advert, the " Authentication from Malaysia Government " is fake? Since theres claimed no ORI in Msia.


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QUOTE(DLTE @ Mar 10 2010, 03:02 AM)
I need some clarification here.

Example : http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...=tab%3DWatching

Which I'm interested in buying this Anime DVD from malaysia but after reading this thread I'm having second thoughts.

So in that ebay advert, the " Authentication from Malaysia Government " is fake? Since theres claimed no ORI in Msia.
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wow hot topic for anime here...


the only original anime i brought is Initial D several years ago (almost RM200 cry.gif ).. later i oni Direct dl from fan site ==

let face the fact
original sub is really suck, sometime no distributer for certain anime in Malaysia zzz (waste of money)
they are slow in releasing new chapter and expensive.... and worst of all they cencors out some of the part cry.gif ... zzz


fan sub video quality considerable quite high especially for avi format... and their sub rock... and best of all it FOC thumbup.gif
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if they produce dvd that can fit all 12 chapters (eg. in one disc) sure fake one. ori dvd/bluray only fit about 1 or 2 episodes with extras.

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wow hot topic for anime here...
the only original anime i brought is Initial D several years ago (almost RM200 cry.gif ).. later i oni Direct dl from fan site ==

let face the fact
original sub is really suck, sometime no distributer for certain anime in Malaysia zzz (waste of money)
they are slow in releasing new chapter and expensive.... and worst of all they cencors out some of the part cry.gif ... zzz
fan sub video quality considerable quite high especially for avi format... and their sub rock... and best of all it FOC thumbup.gif
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thanks so much for ruining the anime industry smile.gif
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/facepalm there goes my hopes of trying to be a ORI otaku

Amazon is way to expensive for me and Odex has so limited titles that its horrible.
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I think we anime-lovers at lowyat should actively do something about piracy in Malaysia. Who should we call to report on shops who sell these fake dvds with ori sticker as this has been going on for too long. I think all of us should call authorities and make them take action! I feel that if enough of us pressure them, maybe and just maybe, one day real original dvds will be sold here.

Because some ppl buy them thinking they're original dvds! plus ppl who buy them knowing they're fake too. That's why there are so many shops now selling all these fake 'original' dvds because of constant demand.

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The reason that all those bootlegs can still be active in My is bcos there is no company that willing to buy the license and take full authority to sweep out all the bootleg...

Just like Singapore, before ODEX exist they were also selling bootleg imported from My, same price is SGD tho...
Then ODEX took the license, stop all Bootleg imports... now we wont see any Bootlegs in SG already...


Meaning unless there is a company with license give pressure to the Government, the government wont consider those bootleg as pirated at all.
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I think we anime-lovers at lowyat should actively do something about piracy in Malaysia. Who should we call to report on shops who sell these fake dvds with ori sticker as this has been going on for too long. I think all of us should call authorities and make them take action! I feel that if enough of us pressure them, maybe and just maybe, one day real original dvds will be sold here.

Because some ppl buy them thinking they're original dvds! plus ppl who buy them knowing they're fake too. That's why there are so many shops now selling all these fake 'original' dvds because of constant demand.
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can always call home ministry and continue with that plan. i also think this is a very good idea to begin with. and thus leads to the war among those bootleg taugehs to earn the official license to sell their product here.
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Mar 10 2010, 12:38 PM)
can always call home ministry and continue with that plan. i also think this is a very good idea to begin with. and thus leads to the war among those bootleg taugehs to earn the official license to sell their product here.
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As someone with close relation with the government, why don't you lead first? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 10 2010, 06:46 AM)
wow hot topic for anime here...
the only original anime i brought is Initial D several years ago (almost RM200 cry.gif ).. later i oni Direct dl from fan site ==

let face the fact
original sub is really suck, sometime no distributer for certain anime in Malaysia zzz (waste of money)
they are slow in releasing new chapter and expensive.... and worst of all they cencors out some of the part cry.gif ... zzz
fan sub video quality considerable quite high especially for avi format... and their sub rock... and best of all it FOC thumbup.gif
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I feel ashamed to read this, knowing that you are PROUD to be a thief. Your parents should feel ashamed too for not educating YOU on not to steal things.

Shame on you.
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As someone with close relation with the government, why don't you lead first? biggrin.gif
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prepare paperwork and of course person who can be a reference. can work along with the japan embassy if u want to

btw a brief official report need to be prepared first. the handing it over will be my part
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 10 2010, 05:46 AM)
wow hot topic for anime here...
the only original anime i brought is Initial D several years ago (almost RM200 cry.gif ).. later i oni Direct dl from fan site ==

let face the fact
original sub is really suck, sometime no distributer for certain anime in Malaysia zzz (waste of money)
they are slow in releasing new chapter and expensive.... and worst of all they cencors out some of the part cry.gif ... zzz
fan sub video quality considerable quite high especially for avi format... and their sub rock... and best of all it FOC thumbup.gif
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it was from stage 1 to stage 3 plus extra stage... excluded project d(not out yet) i brought about several years ago almost 200ringgit... i'm not very sure the current price tag for the entire series.....

to those who think i'm spoiling the anime industry i dont think i'm doing much harm to it... i use it for my own usage and i dont distribute or sale it to other... and i dont go shop to buy pirated disc

to Stormy001_M1A2
oh my, u are a little too harsh over my statement.... can't be help, i'm really disapointed to those original sub which is absulotely a half asses job(oni profit in mind) as compare to the fan sub which they truly respected the anime not for profit.... and some original even dl it from the fan site these is wat i call stealing other ppl work and they get profit from it.... correct if i'm wrong....

Though i'm not going to say that i'm proud to dl it but i dont feel shame to say i dl it....

and sori if i have offended any1... and respect u guys for supporting the industry notworthy.gif
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PUTRAJAYA: Malaysia is confident that it will be removed from the United States’ “watch list” for DVD piracy soon.

Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Minister Datuk Seri Ismail Sabri Yaakob said amendments to be made to the Copyright Act in Parliament would further prove to the international community how serious the Government was in fighting the “copyright piracy war”.

He said Malaysia had been on the “watch list” along with 33 other countries since 2003, adding prior to that, the country was on the “priority watch list” – a more “serious piracy problem list” – for two years.

“We hope steps taken by my ministry to combat the menace will be noticed by the US authorities and they will take us off the list,” he told reporters after launching KRU Bhd’s sales and distribution company – United Studios Sdn Bhd yesterday.

According to the ministry, 1.32 million units of pirated DVDs and VCDs worth RM33.5mil were seized last year.

Ismail Sabri said another solution was for producers of movies and music to ensure product prices were affordable.

KRU Bhd president Norman Abdul Halim said United Studios would soon be launching DVDs for movies produced by the company at RM19.90 for “standard packaging” which apart from the movie, would include “behind the scenes” clips, soundtrack and “director’s cut” scenes and RM9.90 for a DVD containing the movie only.


good news for anime lover?...
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 10 2010, 03:39 PM)
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it was from stage 1 to stage 3 plus extra stage... excluded project d(not out yet) i brought about several years ago almost 200ringgit...  i'm not very sure the current price tag for the entire series.....

to those who think i'm spoiling the anime industry i dont think i'm doing much harm to it... i use it for my own usage and i dont distribute or sale it to other... and i dont go shop to buy pirated disc

to Stormy001_M1A2
oh my, u are a little too harsh over my statement.... can't be help, i'm really disapointed to those original sub which is absulotely a half asses job(oni profit in mind) as compare to the fan sub which they truly respected the anime not for profit.... and some original even dl it from the fan site these is wat i call stealing other ppl work and they get profit from it.... correct if i'm wrong....

Though i'm not going to say that i'm proud to dl it but i dont feel shame to say i dl it....

and sori if i have offended any1... and respect u guys for supporting the industry notworthy.gif
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- you just bought bootleg/pirated, hate to break it to you

- keyword: YOU, and imagine others thinking the same, if not worse (another keyword: malaysia) not much harm you say? google up anime industry news. studios are falling, anime quality dropping, amount of anime released on the decline. sure, keep it up. (oh and your initial d? yeah pirated. and quite frankly, it doesnt matter if it is or isnt when you're having that kinda attitude)

/sensing kolos incoming
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I guess we need to tell anybody here and outside that all anime dvd/cd sold in malaysia are kasutkaki.
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/facepalm there goes my hopes of trying to be a ORI otaku

Amazon is way to expensive for me and Odex has so limited titles that its horrible.
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Amazon is expensive...? Well, okay, they ARE most of the time. You can always try rightstuf.inc though, they can be really cheap, an online anime merchant founded by anime fans for anime fans, but their shipping rates is much more expensive though if you're thinking of buying singular but effectively much cheaper if ya buy more than 2.... thumbup.gif

Only two problem though, foreign customer needs to either scan\photograph (I used a webcam laugh.gif ) their cards and any documents (invoice from amazon is acceptable) that helps confirming that their billing address is real. (they only ship to your billing address as stated in your card - billing addreess on document must be same with billing address of card)

The second problem is they tend to mark the price really low on the custom declaration form (automaticly), like US$ 10 bucks for a big boxset that is worth US$ 50-90++... whistling.gif So, remember to leave a note to remind them to write a higher and believable price or just the exact price of the product (if the product price plus shipping does not exceed the RM 500 limit) ~ I got one large parcel held up by custom before because it was too cheap to believe. doh.gif
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well...i realise it all bootleg or pirated from the begining..i oni bought it..becoz lazy to dl...i kinda hate those halfarse sub..
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i purchase a bootleg and it cause almost RM200 cry.gif

how do we identify it wether it is bootleg or a ori1 hmm.gif hmm.gif

hmm.... it does have nice packaging and it have kinda original licinse stripe on it like those on orignial movies... if i'm not mistaken i bought it in 2003/04.... and it is a vcd version and it is a cantonese version.... the packages torn apart in 2 years time and i lost some of the series too.... sad.gif

i don't mind having extra info and i hope u will share some of the info cause... i do have fren brought original such Renma 1/2, tenjou tenge, dragon ball and etc.... they have hologram sticker attached to it not like last time....
and i do support original TVB series... much more affordable
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 11 2010, 05:10 AM)
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i purchase a bootleg and it cause almost RM200 cry.gif

how do we identify it wether it is bootleg or a ori1 hmm.gif  hmm.gif

hmm.... it does have nice packaging and it have kinda original licinse stripe on it like those on orignial movies... if i'm not mistaken i bought it in 2003/04.... and it is a vcd version and it is a cantonese version.... the packages torn apart in 2 years time and i lost some of the series too.... sad.gif

i don't mind having extra info and i hope u will share some of the info cause... i do have fren brought original such Renma 1/2, tenjou tenge, dragon ball and etc.... they have hologram sticker attached to it not like last time....
and i do support original TVB series... much more affordable
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- nice package and *KINDA* original license stripe means shit

- and lol hologram tulen sticker

- TVB != anime, this is /AS/

as for ur question:

US license
http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmg...tem/84585/4/0/0
pretty fukken cheap, but they dont have the coin given out to those lucky draw bastards so i skipped this lol!
and per dvd (or 2 IINM) including everything is very VERY rare. this is pretty much considered a low production release and it includes nothing (as in no extras) but subtitles.

Japanese license
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%8B%BC%E3%81%A8...8274284&sr=8-37
more expensive compared to english license, however, you'll get more out of what you purchase in terms of packaging, more "collector's value" with the included extras/physical items or even merchandises.

price breakdown:
36 usd is aprox RM126 for 13 episodes dual layer DVD

5k yen is aprox RM200, for 3 episodes DVD
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 11 2010, 10:51 AM)
- nice package and *KINDA* original license stripe means shit

- and lol hologram tulen sticker

- TVB != anime, this is /AS/

as for ur question:

US license
http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmg...tem/84585/4/0/0
pretty fukken cheap, but they dont have the coin given out to those lucky draw bastards so i skipped this lol!
and per dvd (or 2 IINM) including everything is very VERY rare. this is pretty much considered a low production release and it includes nothing (as in no extras) but subtitles.

Japanese license
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%8B%BC%E3%81%A8...8274284&sr=8-37
more expensive compared to english license, however, you'll get more out of what you purchase in terms of packaging, more "collector's value" with the included extras/physical items or even merchandises.

price breakdown:
36 usd is aprox RM126 for 13 episodes dual layer DVD

5k yen is aprox RM200, for 3 episodes DVD
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sadly, bootleg is consider 'legal' in most asia nation

a fren of mine bring a lot of bootleg anime to sg.. and pass the checking @ KLIA and SG airport w/o any problem
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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Mar 11 2010, 10:55 AM)
sadly, bootleg is consider 'legal' in most asia nation

a fren of mine bring a lot of bootleg anime to sg.. and pass the checking @ KLIA and SG airport w/o any problem
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keyword: considered

and no, it is not legal. customs being ignorant is one thing, it doesnt make an illegal item legal.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 11 2010, 11:12 AM)
keyword: considered

and no, it is not legal. customs being ignorant is one thing, it doesnt make an illegal item legal.
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hmm then same applicable to speedy?

added, I did see some KDN enforcement come in to do the checking @ some speedy branch. but they didn't rampas anything shocking.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Mar 11 2010, 11:24 AM)
hmm then same applicable to speedy?

added, I did see some KDN enforcement come in to do the checking @ some speedy branch. but they didn't rampas anything  shocking.gif  sweat.gif
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yeap. lol
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should 'local legal' lol
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xD those people at the video stores still have the balls to say " yes its ORI, Government censorship board approved "
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xD those people at the video stores still have the balls to say " yes its ORI, Government censorship board approved "
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Of course, they are 'legal' since the government censorship board already allegedly 'filtered' and approved 'em for sell, licensed authorization of release doesn't concern them at all. doh.gif

As long as no one is taking claim on that certain release with a proper and authorized license or distribution rights, then the government won't bother with these release. Once a company bought the license or obtain distribution rights to a certain show, those other 'Ori' would automaticly vanish from the shelves unless those are obvious bootlegs that are sold a pasar malam stall and obvious bootleg video shop.

Example: Shounen Omnyouji, Kekkaishi, and Kamen Rider Dragon Knight from PMP. You won't see Sp**dy selling 'other' version of those release by other company because they are legally claimed by PMP and previous 'Ori' and unauthorized releases of these same products would disappear as well, well, in time... Sp**dy would be the first to act. Other store would probably try to sell 'em as quick as possible because it would hurt them more.

That's the way our locals here do their stuff, 'by the book' and there are always loopholes to be exploit.

Japanese anime production company, their local authorized distributed and their middleman the licensing agents are way too outdated (or used to, I wonder if they are too late to claim back what was their's), since they prefer to sell their license to other foreign companies to be license\distribute instead of dirtying their own hands to get the job done. Selling the license would spare them the risk and the commiment since they won't be spending any of their money and would be sitting down enjoying the $$$ instead.

No 'stingy' local company would dare go to them since the japanese are very demanding, with the big mess like separate licenses for the anime itself, the soundtrack (OP, ED, BGM), merchadising, copyrighted characters and ect. ~ The Opening song for Skullman "hikari no machi" by TOKIO was left out from the US region 1 released by Funimation (it was edited with some clips and some BGM) because it's a separate entity and it is authorized to be use in Japan only on the part of the Japanese production company, Funimation would have to deal with the music company instead if they want to include that song and probably ending up paying more.

So, imagine that the Japanese've learnt their lesson and start coming down here themselves (like what the americans did - WB, Fox and ect) and finding an appropriate partner locally to create a joint venture (sole distributor, licensing company, whatever) that will help them reclaim their products and make way for future products, then we'll finally see the government taking a more active role to cleanse the local anime market - foreign+local joint venture = investment = money = legal action... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(yafex @ Mar 11 2010, 01:30 PM)
that word reminds me of a certain idiot troll person who came here parading his "local ori, legal" anime merchandises
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lol remind me of my fren coz buy odex ori anime but its quality doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif download version have a better quality icon_idea.gif :

QUOTE(DLTE @ Mar 11 2010, 01:49 PM)
xD those people at the video stores still have the balls to say " yes its ORI, Government censorship board approved "
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well if kdn rush no action will take to them.

QUOTE(thesecond @ Mar 11 2010, 02:40 PM)
Of course, they are 'legal' since the government censorship board already allegedly 'filtered' and approved 'em for sell, licensed authorization of release doesn't concern them at all.  doh.gif 
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how many nation in asia does bother of this hmm.gif
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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Mar 11 2010, 02:53 PM)
lol remind me of my fren coz buy odex ori anime but its quality doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif download version have a better quality  icon_idea.gif  :
well if kdn rush no action will take to them.
how many nation in asia does bother of this  hmm.gif
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They all bother, by circumstance only... If something is known to be 'illegal' and properly notified then they would bother to take action (ordered to do so), but if that one thing is an 'unknown' and there is no Notice to look out for it nor there is any particular legal claim by any party related, then they wouldn't be bother to do anything. Jumping to conclusion that one boxset of DVD might be bootleg (paranoid much?) would lead to a lot work and head will spin, why bother?

That one set of DVD would probably be hard to determine if it's legal or bootleg- it might be possibly legal in a country but illegal in another country, but there's no way to differentiate them without going through a proper processing channel...

Imagine this, in a perfect world where rules are strictly and properly enforced and the government officer cared and bothered -

a)The custom detained a DVD set at an airport, sent the owner off giving the fella some documents and asking him to wait for further confirmation while they process it.

b)The custom then sent the DVD to a processing channel, it's taken apart, the wrappers torn off, the box and the disc are carefully check for chemical residue (bootleg used cheap glue betwen the dvd and the protective membrane laugh.gif ).

c)They cross-referenced the information from the invoice and the dvd set by communicating with the original merchant and the original distributor to determine the originality.

d)They probably screen it, to check any unappropriate stuff (for the sake of morale and religion and ect). ~ probably decide to confiscate it if it doesn't meet their standard.

e)The whole processing would probably take alot of time since they cared and bothered and detained every parcels (all are potential candidates) to determine if they are legit or bootleg.

g)Voila, 4-12 weeks later (or more if counting public holidays), the poor fella finally received a call or a letter telling him to pick his genuine original dvd set at a certain address and reminded to pay a certain fee and filled a certain form and stick 'Ori' stickers on them to prove that it's legal and original. Or it's consficated for being to violence and it's against the law and furthermore it will from now on be banned and so the copy will be rid off. Or it's being determined as a bootleg. it will be confiscated and act as an evidence as the government as a representative of the public and the copyright and license holder will proceed to prosecute the fella... icon_question.gif

rclxub.gif


So.... Since processing takes time, and pretty much a chore, why bother doing so? And don't forget that people already complaint whenever their stuff are detained, then going through the so called 'rape' process, and possibly then tainted with a shiny 'Ori' sticker and a big filtered and approved sticker and not to mentioned that they have to pay a certain fee to let the government do that. The stickers was an idea created to simplify the identification of an original release and a bootleg but all it did was worsen the matter...

And what if the DVD set turned out to be a parallel import, a grey product licensed only to be sold at a certain country, but with a simple click online it flew across the globe to another country that is outside the legal regional licensing agreement. It might already been licensed in said country, and the existance of this foreign DVD set goes against the agreement between the local distributor and the copyright owner, more head will probably spin... So why bother?

doh.gif So...






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QUOTE(thesecond @ Mar 11 2010, 04:26 PM)
They all bother, by circumstance only... If something is known to be 'illegal' and properly notified then they would bother to take action (ordered to do so), but if that one thing is an 'unknown' and there is no Notice to look out for it nor there is any particular legal claim by any party related, then they wouldn't be bother to do anything. Jumping to conclusion that one boxset of DVD might be bootleg (paranoid much?) would lead to a lot work and head will spin, why bother?

That one set of DVD would probably be hard to determine if it's legal or bootleg- it might be possibly legal in a country but illegal in another country, but there's no way to differentiate them without going through a proper processing channel...

Imagine this, in a perfect world where rules are strictly and properly enforced and the government officer cared and bothered -

a)The custom detained a DVD set at an airport, sent the owner off giving the fella some documents and asking him to wait for further confirmation while they process it.

b)The custom then sent the DVD to a processing channel, it's taken apart, the wrappers torn off, the box and the disc are carefully check for chemical residue (bootleg used cheap glue betwen the dvd and the protective membrane laugh.gif ).

c)They cross-referenced the information from the invoice and the dvd set by communicating with the original merchant and the original distributor to determine the originality.

d)They probably screen it, to check any unappropriate stuff (for the sake of morale and religion and ect). ~ probably decide to confiscate it if it doesn't meet their standard.

e)The whole processing would probably take alot of time since they cared and bothered and detained every parcels (all are potential candidates) to determine if they are legit or bootleg.

g)Voila, 4-12 weeks later (or more if counting public holidays), the poor fella finally received a call or a letter telling him to pick his genuine original dvd set at a certain address and reminded to pay a certain fee and filled a certain form and stick 'Ori' stickers on them to prove that it's legal and original. Or it's consficated for being to violence and it's against the law and furthermore it will from now on be banned and so the copy will be rid off. Or it's being determined as a bootleg. it will be confiscated and act as an evidence as the government as a representative of the public and the copyright and license holder will proceed to prosecute the fella...  icon_question.gif

rclxub.gif
So.... Since processing takes time, and pretty much a chore, why bother doing so? And don't forget that people already complaint whenever their stuff are detained, then going through the so called 'rape' process, and possibly then tainted with a shiny 'Ori' sticker and a big filtered and approved sticker and not to mentioned that they have to pay a certain fee to let the government do that. The stickers was an idea created to simplify the identification of an original release and a bootleg but all it did was worsen the matter...

And what if the DVD set turned out to be a parallel import, a grey product licensed only to be sold at a certain country, but with a simple click online it flew across the globe to another country that is outside the legal regional licensing agreement. It might already been licensed in said country, and the existance of this foreign DVD set goes against the agreement between the local distributor and the copyright owner, more head will probably spin... So why bother?

doh.gif So...
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second that plus the reason why the custom @ KLIA and SG dun bother bout what he bring is due to the yada2 sticker+the packaging of the anime she bring over. Pirate one dun have that laugh.gif

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In M'sia, to be a Otaku is almost impossible for low & middle range income ppl....
Many of my friend say I'm Otaku but I cant admit it..... (Although I'd like to.... T_T)
I ask my self a question: Did I able to collect all Nanoha series merchandise (DVD+everything release by official company)?
The answer is NO!
It's only 1 anime, but I'm unable to do so, so how about others anime I like??

So, in conclusion I'm not an OTAKU!!
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I remember those early days before the penetration of internet and online distributions of mp3 and online tradings, I have to depend on SM Taiwan for my OST.
And Tower Record was selling SM OST as "original import".
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QUOTE(noos @ Mar 14 2010, 02:43 PM)
In M'sia, to be a Otaku is almost impossible for low & middle range income ppl....
Many of my friend say I'm Otaku but I cant admit it..... (Although I'd like to....  T_T)
I ask my self a question: Did I able to collect all Nanoha series merchandise (DVD+everything release by official company)?
The answer is NO!
It's only 1 anime, but I'm unable to do so, so how about others anime I like??

So, in conclusion I'm not an OTAKU!!
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im only missing the first season bluray, however, that wont be the case soon... SOOOOOONNNN......

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QUOTE(noos @ Mar 14 2010, 02:43 PM)
In M'sia, to be a Otaku is almost impossible for low & middle range income ppl....
Many of my friend say I'm Otaku but I cant admit it..... (Although I'd like to....  T_T)
I ask my self a question: Did I able to collect all Nanoha series merchandise (DVD+everything release by official company)?
The answer is NO!
It's only 1 anime, but I'm unable to do so, so how about others anime I like??

So, in conclusion I'm not an OTAKU!!
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the heart is all it takes, so ur an otaku biggrin.gif

i nv wan to buy ori anime with all its crappy english subs sad.gif
sumtimes i wonder if really ori with all those unofficial dvd covers,
u take for example: Bleach, sum of their dvd covers r unofficial fanart frm deviantart, u say leh?
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Does anyone have any experience ordering BD anime from amazon.com?..
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QUOTE(dopeycheese @ Mar 15 2010, 11:12 AM)
the heart is all it takes, so ur an otaku  biggrin.gif

i nv wan to buy ori anime with all its crappy english subs
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sumtimes i wonder if really ori with all those unofficial dvd covers,
u take for example: Bleach, sum of their dvd covers r unofficial fanart frm deviantart, u say leh?
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Does anyone have any experience ordering BD anime from amazon.com?..
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full box set of horo s2 limited first print edition. ~rm1200+ lol

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Added on March 15, 2010, 12:00 pm

full box set of horo s2 limited first print edition. ~rm1200+ lol
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eva 1.11 selling at USD19.99, i'm tempted by the price...
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eva 1.11 selling at USD19.99, i'm tempted by the price...
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amazon do slash prices a lot. although take note of the shipping charges. avg of 2k yen minimum DHL/fedex shipping.
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amazon do slash prices a lot. although take note of the shipping charges. avg of 2k yen minimum DHL/fedex shipping.
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how about amazon usa?..
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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 15 2010, 12:49 PM)
how about amazon usa?..
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After reading all of the comments of the threads regarding xeonbox, I feel extremely pissed. Goodness gracious, I felt all sorts of pains not only in my head, but my soul as well. Man, when he was going on and off about selling original anime in Malaysia and others, I have people over in Penang, selling over such stuff in Prangin Mall(Fyonne and other Penangites will know), and they even admit it's pirated.

I can understand the meaning of the less wealthy people not being able to purchase the true real deal D.V.D.s and Blu-rays from Japan. However, I'm pretty sure in every single school, company and society, there will always be those who are willing to share, like perhaps a U.S. comic book expert who might be willing to share the comics and explain about it. The same applies to us who might have the media to share it to them. Heck, I'd rather invite the less fortunate to watch with me, with my fansubbed episodes, than let them buy the pirated ones.

For every single time I see a person buying such a bootleg copy, the following scenario unfolds in my mind: When the money is finally accumulated, the money would be given to the Triads(the ones with the Ah Longs and such), who are all engaged in all the vices we can find in this country, ranging from sex, gambling, money laundering and of course, illegal copying. Heck, for every time they get more money, they might even go and kidnap little girls for their sex trade.(This part will feel very, very sarcastic)Just imagine, no lolis to be found and why? It's because we've been funding such things.

Basically, I am just rambling like a madman, but with a conscience.

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For every single time I see a person buying such a bootleg copy, the following scenario unfolds in my mind: When the money is finally accumulated, the money would be given to the Triads(the ones with the Ah Longs and such), who are all engaged in all the vices we can find in this country, ranging from sex, gambling, money laundering and of course, illegal copying. Heck, for every time they get more money, they might even go and kidnap little girls for their sex trade.(This part will feel very, very sarcastic)Just imagine, no lolis to be found and why? It's because we've been funding such things.
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Your sentences are kinda exaggerating laugh.gif But rather than focusing on that part, why don't you say the life of animators and other development parts of the studios in jeopardy.
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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Mar 15 2010, 02:51 PM)
Your sentences are kinda exaggerating laugh.gif But rather than focusing on that part, why don't you say the life of animators and other development parts of the studios in jeopardy.
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more like contradiction (considering this thread) over exaggeration
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Well I was kinda late on the bashing on the people who are supposedly selling "original" anime copies, therefore I simply raged. Besides, I won't be surprised that the subbers in Taiwan/H.K./China are involved with the Triads. Of course, the animators are also getting the shit kicked out of them, not getting their proper compensation from low sales and what not. Honestly, I'm really sad for the lack of proper anime being obtainable in our country, besides the so called "original vendors".

If anyone can come up with an idea on how to possibly allow proper anime to be distributed in this country, I'm all up for it.
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The problem lies with our local SE-Asia anime distributors ultimately. Their lack of marketing sense is what causing these bootlegs to appear.

Odex claims that downloading causes their sales to "go down". lolwut?

All the Odex titles i've seen holds no interest for me. Their either old/outdated animations or some unpopular ones.

Seriously what the hell is up with all these Narutards and lolbleach DVDs floating around? Seriously!?

Get us some Shakugan no Shana or Lucky Star or Higurashi

Once they ( Odex, etc ) do that I'm sure they will see a increase in sales.

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QUOTE(DLTE @ Mar 15 2010, 04:46 PM)
The problem lies with our local SE-Asia anime distributors ultimately. Their lack of marketing sense is what causing these bootlegs to appear.

Odex claims that downloading causes their sales to "go down". lolwut?

All the Odex titles i've seen holds no interest for me. Their either old/outdated animations or some unpopular ones.

Seriously what the hell is up with all these Narutards and lolbleach DVDs floating around? Seriously!?

Get us some Shakugan no Shana or Lucky Star or Higurashi

Once they ( Odex, etc ) do that I'm sure they will see a increase in sales.
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odex does have shakugan no shana and they even marketed it during afa08. and thats 2 years ago lol
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Meh, I've never seen it before. And i've been to alot of video stores.

Shows how much Odex cares about marketing.
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QUOTE(DLTE @ Mar 15 2010, 05:15 PM)
Meh, I've never seen it before. And i've been to alot of video stores.

Shows how much Odex cares about marketing.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odex

ctrl + f shakugan.

apparently lucky aids and higurishi arent in though XD
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After reading some of the post in here as well as in the Anime Shrine website and Sankaku Complex, I can consider that I am an otaku but I am a Type A otaku and not a Type B otaku.

As for supporting the anime industry, I try to support it the best I can.

Some of the way that I use to support it are:

1.) Watching it at cinema
2.) Not buying bootleg "original anime"
3.) Not buying Odex's anime

I also watch anime through streaming although it sort of fall in the grey area.

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Does anyone have any experience ordering BD anime from amazon.com?..
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I do. Amazon.com was my first time... blush.gif They have alot more shipping options to choose from (unlike Amazon Japan who only ship internationally using courier).

By standard shipping, the shipping cost for 1 dvd\bd is about $4.99(per shipping)+$3.99(per item). ~ takes between less than 2 weeks to a month to arrive, unless stucked within a heavy postal traffic jam. laugh.gif

By expedited shipping, the shipping cost for 1dvd\bd is about $13.99(per shipping)+$3.99(per item). ~takes about more than 1 weeks to 2 weeks to arrive, unless stucked within a heavy postal traffic jam. laugh.gif

By priority courier, the shipping cost for 1dvd\bd is about $29.99(per shipping)+$3.99(per item). ~ takes around 3-5 days, normally there's no traffic jam to worry about. drool.gif

I use standard shipping the most, it's quite secure and cheap by my standard, I have only experienced one missing package which actually arrived much later after Amazon resent my item without any hassle (you only gotta wait somewhere around a month from your expected arrival date as calculated by Amazon). There's actually no need to send back the extra package as Amazon insisted that you don't need to, you should just keep it to yourselves... whistling.gif

Amazon always resent by expedited shipping if your lost item was standard shipping, if the second resent still failed to arrive, they'll use priority courier instead, if priority courier also failed (which is less than likely), they'll probably refund you (maybe not full refund). ~ Best Customer Service in the world, by my POV anyway. notworthy.gif

Anyway, My order of Evangelion 1.11 BD has shipped from Amazon last Tuesday... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 15 2010, 12:28 PM)
Does anyone have any experience ordering BD anime from amazon.com?..
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It is okay, my stuff usually arrive around 2-3 weeks when I still stay in Malaysia and before my friend can skip those waiting period.
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Mar 16 2010, 01:34 AM)
After reading some of the post in here as well as in the Anime Shrine website and Sankaku Complex, I can consider that I am an otaku but I am a Type A otaku and not a Type B otaku.

As for supporting the anime industry, I try to support it the best I can.

Some of the way that I use to support it are:

1.) Watching it at cinema
2.) Not buying bootleg "original anime"
3.) Not buying Odex's anime

I also watch anime through streaming although it sort of fall in the grey area.
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QUOTE(DLTE @ Mar 17 2010, 04:30 AM)
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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Mar 16 2010, 12:04 PM)
It is okay, my stuff usually arrive around 2-3 weeks when I still stay in Malaysia and before my friend can skip those waiting period.
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Just ordered mine through bulk order, should receive in a few day...
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Mar 16 2010, 01:34 AM)

3.) Not buying Odex's anime

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lolwut. I thought Odex's anime are legit?
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lolwut. I thought Odex's anime are legit?
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Legal, yes but bear in mind that they chase after almost everyone who download anime to watch even a 9 years old person. They also had a very bad sub and they once stole a sub from a fansub and made it legal.
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Mar 18 2010, 12:52 AM)
Legal, yes but bear in mind that they chase after almost everyone who download anime to watch even a 9 years old person. They also had a very bad sub and they once stole a sub from a fansub and made it legal.
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Explain it using this video!



More background info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odex%27s_acti...st_file_sharing
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Mar 18 2010, 01:38 AM)
Explain it using this video!



More background info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odex%27s_acti...st_file_sharing
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 15 2010, 04:53 AM)
im only missing the first season bluray, however, that wont be the case soon... SOOOOOONNNN......

/evilcackle fading off
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Wat I mean is not only DVDs or BluRay, but EVERYTHING like Dakimakura (opps...), Art Book, Shirts, & .........


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QUOTE(dopeycheese @ Mar 15 2010, 11:12 AM)
the heart is all it takes, so ur an otaku  biggrin.gif

i nv wan to buy ori anime with all its crappy english subs  sad.gif
sumtimes i wonder if really ori with all those unofficial dvd covers,
u take for example: Bleach, sum of their dvd covers r unofficial fanart frm deviantart, u say leh?
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The Ori anime for me in M'sia is only from Japan but sad case is the price is much much ORI than our local ori.........
Local's ori is just worst, i can say the cover i can design better & more "ori" than any of them.

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the problem with local ori was the subtitle. paying like rm30 - 40 per series and get very poor subs.
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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 15 2010, 11:28 AM)
Does anyone have any experience ordering BD anime from amazon.com?..
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Amazon service is excelence!
1st time order the DVD in my avatar picture at amazon, the item reach my home on the 2nd day after comfirmation.
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the problem with local ori was the subtitle. paying like rm30 - 40 per series and get very poor subs.
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The problem with local ori is that its FAKE.
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" Local ORI " lololol its not even ORI

All those " Authenticated by Malaysian Government " are bootlegs.


What are bootlegs? They are fakes.
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QUOTE(DLTE @ Mar 17 2010, 04:30 AM)
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I can hear the Marlboro smoking man from the theatres now: BUY ORIGINAL. SEE ORIGINAL.

Or maybe should rephrase that to: just feeling original is good enough for me.
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QUOTE(Bad Cyborg @ Mar 19 2010, 02:17 AM)
I can hear the Marlboro smoking man from the theatres now: BUY ORIGINAL. SEE ORIGINAL.

Or maybe should rephrase that to: just feeling original is good enough for me.
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Ignorance is bliss for you eh? But now you know its a fake, innocence once lost cannot be regain.

keep telling yourself its a ORI
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QUOTE(noos @ Mar 18 2010, 11:57 PM)
Wat I mean is not only DVDs or BluRay, but EVERYTHING like Dakimakura (opps...), Art Book, Shirts, & .........


Added on March 19, 2010, 12:03 am
The Ori anime for me in M'sia is only from Japan but sad case is the price is much much ORI than our local ori.........
Local's ori is just worst, i can say the cover i can design better & more "ori" than any of them.
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you... didnt knew, did you? LOL
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you... didnt knew, did you? LOL
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Dakimakura, check. Shirt, check. Plushie, check. Keychain, check. When are you getting a horo sex doll man?
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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Mar 19 2010, 10:30 AM)
Dakimakura, check. Shirt, check. Plushie, check. Keychain, check. When are you getting a horo sex doll man?
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when they release it maybe?
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I noticed that there is a shitload of bootleg anime on ebay and 98% of them are usually those " Original Malaysian Version ".

98% = Msian Version "
1% = Others
1% = Burned copies ( people actually buy it: Example this guy http://myworld.ebay.com.sg/fengshenwee/ )

LOOK at this positive reviews! WTF? All he does is download fansubs then burn it and sell to people. How stupid can people be?

He will show this link to people before he sells them
http://areumeforever.webs.com/WatUWillGet.htm

so anyway, back to the original topic, I noticed that 1 company has been producing these "bootlegs" and its called " Lambaian Filem "

This is their website: http://animelv.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=162

On every of their dvds theres " LF " logo however looking at their forums. even their own customers complain about the subs being horrible and things like that.

So forum, what I want to ask is. Do you think this is really a "Real" Company but produce bad products like ODEX? Or just a plain bootleg website.
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Malaysian company? There used to be one - I forgot the name, and it licensed some really obscure stuff. Serial Experiments Lain, I think. But then it gulung tikar and was never heard of ever since.

Then there's Odex - well, we all know that one already.
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Then this company also sell bootleg?

http://vbg.com.my/index.php?option=com_con...id=66&Itemid=26

Their stuff are pretty expensive for bootleg shocking.gif

That's so sad.
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Yes, those are bootlegs.
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Might be legit. Usually those who bothered to license are the only ones that also bothers to dub it. Since they have malay dub, I think they acquired the license
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it doesnt look legit at all -haha3
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alah, yang legit dulu pun lebey kurang je. tapi kat belakang ada license gak
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Meh my friend asked me to help burn some anime for her from her so called 'original' DVD. Played the file and the english sub sucked badly.. seriously if it was 'original' it wouldn't be as crappy as that =_="

Tried convincing them but they still think they're 'supporting' the real 'originals' when in actual reality they're wasting 20-50 bucks + on buying bootleg ones.. joke sia man.

I never did bought those.. admittedly I'm the download and watch kind >_>" but yeah it would be nice to own originals.. saving moolah for figurines now mainly though. :l

Interested in getting Lucky Star's original dvd lol
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Even with Malay dub, the feeling of doubt still lingers.

Some potential red flags are region free DVDs, some titles which are only ENG/CN subbed and Bleach movie 3 that I have not heard being licensed outside of Japan yet by any country.
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already, but sometimes, if you observe carefully, the cover art of the so-called original dvds are actually fanart drawn by fans. (who are probably unaware that someone's slapped their work on a dvd case to sell..)

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QUOTE(Nichol90 @ Jul 25 2010, 05:03 PM)
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already, but sometimes, if you observe carefully, the cover art of the so-called original dvds are actually fanart drawn by fans. (who are probably unaware that someone's slapped their work on a dvd case to sell..)
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I am glad you actually realized that. Pretty obvious actually.
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Haha, I've known this (the fanart on dvd covers) for a while now, I just never cared much about it.
Then a few months back, I saw the cover of a Kuroshitsuji OVA, and went all "..I have this picture in my dA faves...wtf?"

I've been rather suspicious of Malaysian anime dvds since I bought an anime series (forgot which one lol) that had "MOETRON SUBS" in it's credits.. It's good to confirm my suspicions. Never buying anime dvds in speedy ever again..
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QUOTE(Nichol90 @ Jul 25 2010, 05:40 PM)
Haha, I've known this (the fanart on dvd covers) for a while now, I just never cared much about it.
Then a few months back, I saw the cover of a Kuroshitsuji OVA, and went all "..I have this picture in my dA faves...wtf?"

I've been rather suspicious of Malaysian anime dvds since I bought an anime series (forgot which one lol) that had "MOETRON SUBS" in it's credits.. It's good to confirm my suspicions. Never buying anime dvds in speedy ever again..
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That's old news. Not only fanart. Magazine scans and anime wallpapers are not spared. I have seen two wallpapers which I made decorating the front of those so-called boxsets many years back.

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yes i believe thats true.. but some of the dvd cover u can get from internet wallpapers such like animewallpapers.com...some of the so call "Original" that i got really suck expecially their subtitle.. got a lot of translation mistake... thx god i learn japanase halfway... i notice some of the name also change example suzumiya haruhi change to chungri...right now i follow rapidshare downloads for latest anime
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Orz........ so... in the end i was just spending hundreds on good for nothing pirated DVDs.. Butthurt sial!!!


*withdraw cash from bank and rushes to KinoKuniya*

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so far i only ever bought one, and that's Vandread. that also shared with a friend.

saw this Code Geass set http://www.twitpic.com/1v8yoz packaged so nicely some more.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 29 2010, 03:42 PM)
so far i only ever bought one, and that's Vandread. that also shared with a friend.

saw this Code Geass set http://www.twitpic.com/1v8yoz packaged so nicely some more.
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there are some packed with metal case summore.
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QUOTE(guest18 @ Feb 28 2009, 11:24 AM)
to all those people out there who think they are supporting the industry by buying anime in malaysia , you have been tricked and terribly misinformed .

anime license need to be purchased before you can sell any anime if not they are considered bootleg .

all shop in malaysia I have see so far they are selling bootleg from taiwan or hong kong . just see where they come from . go back home and google the company see if they are licensed to sell anime . I can bet with you they arent .

Im so sick and tired of seeing people buying anime from shop and say Im supporting the industry or Im buying original . if you want original go amazon , odex , madman , tokyopop to buy .

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Hello,

I'm Really Feel Shock When I Saw This Thread. Cz I Thought The DVD With Sticker From Malaysia Censorship Board Is Original.

I'm Just Wondering...

Why The Malaysia Government Didn't Take Any Action Of The Licensed Shop Like Speedy And Other?

??? Cant See ???

And The Original Authority Company or Rights owner Also Didn't Have Any Action?

Very Curious To Know About It.

It's Because The Licensed Shop Registered In Malaysia Like Authorize In Selling It. And They Act Like The Ori=Granted The Rights To Sell It. And Sell It With The REALLY Profitable HIGH MARGIN. AT LEAST YOU SELL AS BOOTLEG PRICE MA. Like Books We Can Know Which 1 is Bootleg And Which Is Ori. mad.gif

If It's Really The Truth I'm Really FEEL SHAME TO BE MALAYSIAN lol.


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Why The Malaysia Government Didn't Take Any Action Of The Licensed Shop Like Speedy And Other? 

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Because they don't bother to check. Why didn't they bother to check? Duit sudah masuk poket, maaa....

Also, it's all 'just cartoon shows for kids, no need to be so uptight lar.'

Last but not least, it's because there aren't any malaysian companies that license/manufacture/distribute anime. If there was one, they'd be all over the place setting fire to all the pirate vendors and crying bloody murder. As a consumer, you can make the wise choice by buying from amazon or kino.

The rest of us, well... we'll stick to free fansubs, lol.

/hugs manga/artbook collection tightly.
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if pirated media (movies, series, songs, you name it.......) shops can open during broad day light for months, you think they going to take action?
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QUOTE(noctis @ Aug 2 2010, 02:39 PM)
Hello,

I'm Really Feel Shock When I Saw This Thread. Cz I Thought The DVD With Sticker From Malaysia Censorship Board Is Original.

I'm Just Wondering...

Why The Malaysia Government Didn't Take Any Action Of The Licensed Shop Like Speedy And Other? 

??? Cant See ???

And The Original Authority Company or Rights owner Also Didn't Have Any Action?

Very Curious To Know About It.

It's Because The Licensed Shop Registered In Malaysia Like Authorize In Selling It. And They Act Like The Ori=Granted The Rights To Sell It. And Sell It With The REALLY Profitable HIGH MARGIN. AT LEAST YOU SELL AS BOOTLEG PRICE MA. Like Books We Can Know Which 1 is Bootleg And Which Is Ori.  mad.gif

If It's Really The Truth I'm Really FEEL SHAME TO BE MALAYSIAN lol.
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Simple. Speedy and the other shop like it are just retail shops, they only sell what is provided by through the distribution companies (like Speedy and Eastern and ect), which is obtain from the various local 'legitimate' publishing\production company. As long as the products are 'declared' original by the Government, then they can sell, it's just a grey area.

Anyway, as long as the products (no matter what methods) go through KDNK or even FINAS - get an 'authorize to sell\distribution\import form', filled it up, provide them with some documents, do some screening of the media (sometimes), pay up and voila, original stickers... doh.gif 'Ori' here means certified by the Government for selling and distribution, it does not mean 'licensed'.

According to local laws, a foreign distribution\publisher needs a local partner (representative - sole or exclusive) to distribute and to publish their stuff - This is how Fox, Warner, Disney and ect do their stuff. A part from a few small licenses, there are no local representatives for anime distribution in a whole.

Real licensed 'Ori' product (stickers or no stickers) will have enough details and information on their prints to legitimate themselves from the not so real 'Ori'. It's quite easy if you know where to look.
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oic. I Get It.

I Think It's A Good Business When Everyone Sell Bootleg And You Sell Real Licensed Ori.




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oic. I Get It.

I Think It's A Good Business When Everyone Sell Bootleg And You Sell Real Licensed Ori bootleg.
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That statement is correct also aside from a few exceptions, and I'm too lazy to say it... brows.gif
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I was amaze how the do the bootleg dvd packaging with "ori" stamp and holowgram sticker on seitokai yakuidomo with just end less then two weeks ago.
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to all those people out there who think they are supporting the industry by buying anime in malaysia , you have been tricked and terribly misinformed .

anime license need to be purchased before you can sell any anime if not they are considered bootleg .

all shop in malaysia I have see so far they are selling bootleg from taiwan or hong kong . just see where they come from . go back home and google the company see if they are licensed to sell anime . I can bet with you they arent .

Im so sick and tired of seeing people buying anime from shop and say Im supporting the industry or Im buying original . if you want original go amazon , odex , madman , tokyopop to buy .

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if u wanna support the industry,buy the anime goodies instead
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Theres this one time, I bought a Haruhi Suzumiya DVD with metal casing somemore

then I was thinking like this thing got metal casing sure ori one

then when I watched it the quality is even worse than streaming the anime in youtube, even the subtitles is not accurate for example Nagato Yuki got changed into a chinese name


and that, is the last time I bought anime from dvd stores
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I don't know how these got into the country I live in, but its the last time I ever buy from that store... Anyway, I got the LF version of 'He is my master' by trick and it looked like shit when I was watching it. The quality amounts to a Youtube video. (Not even HD ones). The subs don't even fit in the screen sometimes, and it just cuts them off. They appear for a very short time, or maybe even a nano second, or sometimes don't. I'm trying to rebuy a legit version, so for safety information, does this dvd look bootleg or legit?

Nevermind, the version I was looking at seems pretty legit, but probably not the right region.

Its also funny that all the pirated soundtrack cd's were all made in 1995. I suppose their computers have a broken clock or something.

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I don't know how these got into the country I live in, but its the last time I ever buy from that store... Anyway, I got the LF version of 'He is my master' by trick and it looked like shit when I was watching it. The quality amounts to a Youtube video. (Not even HD ones). The subs don't even fit in the screen sometimes, and it just cuts them off. They appear for a very short time, or maybe even a nano second, or sometimes don't. I'm trying to rebuy a legit version, so for safety information, does this dvd look bootleg or legit?

Or if you can't tell, who can see the company logo, which is sort of transparent. It looks like it says 'Camal' or 'Caxal'.
Nevermind, the version I was looking at seems pretty legit, but probably not the right region.

Its also funny that all the pirated soundtrack cd's were all made in 1995. I suppose their computers have a broken clock or something.
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If any of the above is not present, then not legal. ~ simple.
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@thesecond
there is Taiwan legit version right?
are there english subtitle in it?
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there is Taiwan legit version right?
are there english subtitle in it?
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there is Taiwan legit version right?
are there english subtitle in it?
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Yes, there is. Thing changes after 2004\2005, when the officials from the Japanese side turn towards the previously bootlegging companies and actually made them into their official representatives - because they recognised the taiwanese's ability to come out with low cost and high quality bootlegs (packaging wise laugh.gif ).

The taiwan made bootlegs you see now in the market are either left-overs (from early 2000) or burned DVD-R through online deals (bad quality, they might go bad after multiple plays).

There are currently several legal and official licensing and distribution company in Taiwan like Mighty Media, Muse Inc...

Here's a list of their official website (in chinese). Each of the company have their own catalogue of anime and merchandise, which means that a certain anime would be solely under a certain company (in taiwan), example: Naruto is under Might Media. So if you see others, then those are bootlegs.

And sadly, as official licensed release, most of their products only have chinese subs, english subs is a rare thing. - that's the truth about legit version.

Prowaremedia - one of the taiwan based company who are releasing their own anime BDs (only FMA: Conqueror of Shamballa comes with english subs). ~ corrections.
http://www.prowaremedia.com.tw/

Mighty Media - they are also starting to release their own BDs such as Summer Wars (which included english subs)
http://www.mightymedia.com.tw/

Muse Inc. - A distribution company and a licensing agency, who also deasl with character merchandising and OEM products (Original Equipment Manufacturer) ~ They are listed inside the Animenewsnetwork's database.
http://www.e-muse.com.tw/


Top Insight - famous for their release of the 100% uncut version of Garo DVD set. The one that was aired locally is their dubs but it was gunting and potong... Gundam UC and 00 are licensed to them as well.
http://www.my-cartoon.com.tw/

Then there's PIMGroup which seemed to be currently unactive, for quite a long time now.
http://www.pimgroup.com.tw/

And yeah, most of the Ghibli stuff (most, not all - all licensed seperately) are release under Deltamac of Taiwan (based in Taiwan but also active in Hongkong, while in the same time they are also a joint venture partner of Walt Disney\Sony Ent\20th Century Fox\BBC in China under the company name - Excel Media.)

Deltamac HK
www.deltamac.com.hk

Deltamac TW
http://www.deltamac.com.tw/

Excel Media
http://www.excelmedia.net/

But again, I repeat as official licensed release, most of their products only have chinese subs, english subs is a rare thing except for a more all regional and international release. - that's the truth about legit version.

PS: The lastest dvd (2-disc) release of One Piece Strong World by Bees Factory Entertainment which is slated for late December is said to come with english subs.

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I am currently studying in Australia . Im nt sure whether i should ask this or nt . I bought my anime DVD from Madman Entertainment . Australia company that distribute and sub anime . Is it original ? I know they said Australia 100% do not allow pirated stuff so I reli donno


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I bought 2 k-on original dvd , and yeah they dont look like "original", the subtitle and the graphic quality are bad ;S
kinda dissapointed spent my money getting the "original" dvd
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QUOTE(nhb555 @ May 4 2011, 10:31 PM)
I am currently studying in Australia . Im nt sure whether i should ask this or nt . I bought my anime DVD from Madman Entertainment . Australia company that distribute and sub anime . Is it original ? I know they said Australia 100% do not allow pirated stuff so I reli donno


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I think they are pretty legit, been around for over 10 years or so.

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I think they are pretty legit, been around for over 10 years or so.
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1 more questions smile.gif The company that is listed by @thesecond . Taiwan Company sell real original anime ? because i prefer watching anime with chinese sub haha smile.gif Thanks for the info !
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1 more questions smile.gif The company that is listed by @thesecond . Taiwan Company sell real original anime ? because i prefer watching anime with chinese sub haha smile.gif Thanks for the info !
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I'm pretty sure they were legit, tho you need to personally check each one of em.
For eg, you can check Prowamedia licensed anime at ANN - Prowamedia Licensed Anime
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That explain why animes are so cheap here...
9 RM a DVD an I though it was legit. doh.gif

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QUOTE(nhb555 @ May 4 2011, 10:46 PM)
1 more questions smile.gif The company that is listed by @thesecond . Taiwan Company sell real original anime ? because i prefer watching anime with chinese sub haha smile.gif Thanks for the info !
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How dare you doubt me...? cry.gif ~ Just joking... laugh.gif

First of all, those company don't 'sell', they produce\manufacture\distribute. If you want to get them, try finding them at either Yesasia, books.com.tw or jsdvd. They are much more affordable than the North American release, but beware the pricy shipping fees though. And yeah, sometimes their packaging especially the repackage price down edition are really 'cheap' looking...

Well, there's one thing about legit distributors that is completely opposite of illegal ones - legit distributors often have a much more limited catalogue, they only distribute what they can afford to get (japanese licenses are never cheap), and sometimes some of them are official sole distribution which means that the other company won't be releasing products from the same japanese production company if it's belong to that sole distributor.

So, you won't see the same title release by two or more company at once, unless the original license had expired (most likely after more than 5 years - maybe, according to their contract of agreement.) and transfered to another new licensee. - This is not the same with the local release, where you can see two company compete with each other by releasing product of the same title. laugh.gif

And yeah, you can put all the faith in Madman since they are pretty much the biggest anime\japanese series distribution company in Australia (probably the only one, if I remember correctly).
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QUOTE(thesecond @ May 5 2011, 05:35 PM)
How dare you doubt me...?  cry.gif ~ Just joking...  laugh.gif

First of all, those company don't 'sell', they produce\manufacture\distribute. If you want to get them, try finding them at either Yesasia, books.com.tw or jsdvd. They are much more affordable than the North American release, but beware the pricy shipping fees though. And yeah, sometimes their packaging especially the repackage price down edition are really 'cheap' looking...

Well, there's one thing about legit distributors that is completely opposite of illegal ones - legit distributors often have a much more limited catalogue, they only distribute what they can afford to get (japanese licenses are never cheap), and sometimes some of them are official sole distribution which means that the other company won't be releasing products from the same japanese production company if it's belong to that sole distributor.

So, you won't see the same title release by two or more company at once, unless the original license had expired (most likely after more than 5 years - maybe, according to their contract of agreement.) and transfered to another new licensee.  - This is not the same with the local release, where you can see two company compete with each other by releasing product of the same title.  laugh.gif

And yeah, you can put all the faith in Madman since they are pretty much the biggest anime\japanese series distribution company in Australia (probably the only one, if I remember correctly).
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Thanks haha smile.gif . Yeah i just realised it as well . They produce manufacture and distribute so the price is lower compare to the Japan . If they import from Japan and distribute in Australia and other places i think the price of the anime will be doubled because of the shipping fee haha . Prowaremedia is quite good coz they ship internationally and if buy more than a certain shipping fee is free . Others i check it i think they only ship within Taiwan only sad.gif haha .

Australia anime is cheaper if u compare to Taiwan coz Taiwan out for 1 volume which max consist of 3 episodes for around 435NT . In Australia around 55aud average for a 1 collection which consist of 12 episodes in 3 or 4 DVD . haha

Australia blu-ray and DVD is like only few dollars differ . lol... If i upgrade my laptop player tat would be like so great ! able to watch blu ray version of anime ! haha

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Thanks haha smile.gif . Yeah i just realised it as well . They produce manufacture and distribute so the price is lower compare to the Japan . If they import from Japan and distribute in Australia and other places i think the price of the anime will be doubled because of the shipping fee haha . Prowaremedia is quite good coz they ship internationally and if buy more than a certain shipping fee is free . Others i check it i think they only ship within Taiwan only sad.gif haha .

Australia anime is cheaper if u compare to Taiwan coz Taiwan out for 1 volume which max consist of 3 episodes for around 435NT . In Australia around 55aud average for a 1 collection which consist of 12 episodes in 3 or 4 DVD . haha

Australia blu-ray and DVD is like only few dollars differ . lol... If i upgrade my laptop player tat would be like so great ! able to watch blu ray version of anime ! haha
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Yeah, don't forget to add in duty fees and sale taxes... tongue.gif

Wait...? So prowaremedia ship internationally...? drool.gif I never knew that...

Well, the taiwanese tend to follow the japanese release strictly during the first press run, sometimes their artbox and even gift item are the same as the japanese counterpart.

I tried to order stuff from Madman before, I tried but never actually done it. tongue.gif

Bluray is the future, man. Well, atleast for the next 5 years maybe...
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Yeah, don't forget to add in duty fees and sale taxes...  tongue.gif

Wait...? So prowaremedia ship internationally...?  drool.gif I never knew that...

Well, the taiwanese tend to follow the japanese release strictly during the first press run, sometimes their artbox and even gift item are the same as the japanese counterpart.

I tried to order stuff from Madman before,  I tried but never actually done it.  tongue.gif

Bluray is the future, man. Well, atleast for the next 5 years maybe...
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If u like english Sub can go to Madman or Siren Visual . Taiwan version main advantage over Madman is that Taiwan split into different volumes means that u get to have different kind of cover for each volume which is kind of neat . Madman u only get 2 differ some juz 1 cover . If u like to have differ kind of cover and prefer Chinese then u have to pay more that is the main disadvantage sad.gif haha
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QUOTE(nhb555 @ May 5 2011, 07:12 PM)
If u like english Sub can go to Madman or Siren Visual . Taiwan version main advantage over Madman is that Taiwan split into different volumes means that u get to have different kind of cover for each volume which is kind of neat . Madman u only get 2 differ some juz 1 cover . If u like to have differ kind of cover and prefer Chinese then u have to pay more that is the main disadvantage sad.gif haha
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I buy according to favour, if I like the title so much, I would probably pay more. I might even double dip just for the sake of the packaging or bonus content, if I have the money of course... laugh.gif

PS: Mind PM me how you get Prowaremedia to work? There's nothing about international customer on their site. Thank you very much. notworthy.gif
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I buy according to favour, if I like the title so much, I would probably pay more. I might even double dip just for the sake of the packaging or bonus content, if I have the money of course...  laugh.gif

PS: Mind PM me how you get Prowaremedia to work? There's nothing about international customer on their site. Thank you very much.  notworthy.gif
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when u register you choose ur country Malaysia and type Malaysia address and they will send to ur address haha .
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when u register you choose ur country Malaysia and type Malaysia address and they will send to ur address haha .
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Ah, Okie dokie. tongue.gif

What do they opt for shipping? Standard Airmail? EMS? Courier? Thanks again. nod.gif And an obvious question - debit\credit card payment accepted, right? tongue.gif
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Hey look what I found from my old anime vcd I stupidly buy years ago
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Over the years I have found thos cover actually come froom hentai doujin... WTF?

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QUOTE(fifthtouch @ May 9 2011, 03:38 PM)
Hey look what I found from my old anime vcd I stupidly buy years ago
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Over the years I have found thos cover actually come froom hentai doujin... WTF?
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Ffffff...Asuna from Negima!! And a screen cap from Fruit Basket!! doh.gif
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Also.. the character name all in chinese name. wtf.
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yes, and bad subtitle also. I have no idea how these pirated DVDs can be sold like original when it's not.
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 10 2011, 01:02 PM)
yes, and bad subtitle also. I have no idea how these pirated DVDs can be sold like original when it's not.
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I knew this long time ago. I like to download first and then buy later if that series/anime is worth watching. I was shocked to see that some "original" Japanese DVD series give credit to fansub groups of the free download sites

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And that's something to be proud of? :/

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 10 2011, 01:02 PM)
yes, and bad subtitle also. I have no idea how these pirated DVDs can be sold like original when it's not.
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Simple, they are not licensed, but they are authorized to sell... ~ those stickers are pretty much permit for selling.

So the local company do it in two ways, I guess... *This is just an analysis though.*

1) Produce the dvds themselves. Since they are licensed and legitimate production company, the products that they produced are automaticly 'legit'. Afterwards, they only need to apply for the 'authorization' stickers for selling and do some screening and stuff and ect...

2) Import them from outside the country. Essentially they are just using the loophole for third-party importation which is pretty much what normal people (like me) who purchase DVD and BD online are doing. Pay the duti fee and the sale tax, apply for importation permit, and get the authorization stickers. Voila, they are now legit...

In reality, official or licensed release of DVDs and BDs in other country are not consider legit in our country unless authorized and acknowledged by our local government... Which is a nice loophole for turning imported pirated dvd into legit dvd... tongue.gif

Vice versa, all those legit, official and licensed foreign release of DVD and BD that people buy online and keep in their house could be consider not legit or even smuggled stuff, if a government officer of a related department declared as such... tongue.gif

Furthermore since there is no one to challege them regarding the license or copyright to their release, there's pretty much no obstacle at all and pretty much easy money.

And one will noticed that once a title is actually license locally, the previous *ahem* will be pulled from shelves and fade away. - Like when certain Kamen Riders series is picked up by Speedy (for official broadcast on TV), that title will start to disappear, not all but most. And people will find it hard to find them...

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Furthermore since there is no one to challege them regarding the license or copyright to their release, there's pretty much no obstacle at all and pretty much easy money.

there's no benefit for us to challenge them because i have checked the price of a japanese series on internet. It's 200 USD ++. How many of us can afford that? I can get a japanese series with RM20 or RM50 (with a beautiful box like moon cake box) at local shop. It's not really original but 'original' though.

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there's no benefit for us to challenge them because i have checked the price of a japanese series on internet. It's 200 USD ++. How many of us can afford that? I can get a japanese series with RM20 or RM50 (with a beautiful box like moon cake box) at local shop. It's not really original but 'original' though.
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Not us, but the licensor, licensee or the license holder... tongue.gif

Japanese series is never cheap, but there are always legit alternatives like the region 1 North American release or the region 3 Hong Kong and Taiwan release. One good thing about them is that the bonus contents are mostly intact and sometimes their boxart and gifts are pretty much the same as their original japanese counterpart(especially the taiwan version). And they can be cheap too as time passes, not as cheap as what you get here but still alot cheaper and you still get better quality stuff...

Those moon cake boxes look good, only if you have never really seen a real original release... laugh.gif ~ I know since I am still buying the local *ahem* product for test screening while waiting for the official release. Yeah, they are really cheap but that's because the contents are freely and availably DL'ed from internet (fansubs or even HD tv-ripped).

So you are essentially paying just for stuff that you yourselves can get for free from the internet... sweat.gif

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So you are essentially paying just for stuff that you yourselves can get for free from the internet...  sweat.gif
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So you are essentially paying just for stuff that you yourselves can get for free from the internet... 

Well, I just want to show my support but sigh, too many pirated dvds are sold here......
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 12 2011, 05:42 PM)
Well, I just want to show my support but sigh, too many pirated dvds are sold here......
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show your support to who? pirates?
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show your support to who? pirates?
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show support on buying worth watching japanese anime/dramas but heck, many aren't original
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showing support means buying from the original distributors...
you're not showing support by buying from pirates... basically, you've done nothing that's even close to "support"
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 12 2011, 06:57 PM)
show support  on buying worth watching japanese anime/dramas but heck, many aren't original
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buy original then


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showing support means buying from the original distributors...
you're not showing support by buying from pirates... basically, you've done nothing that's even close to "support"
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subs fukken where

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showing support means buying from the original distributors...
you're not showing support by buying from pirates... basically, you've done nothing that's even close to "support"
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yes, i do buy original dvds from anime shops but those aren't even really 'original' at the first place. The subtitle really sucks the big time. In a series, a character can have so many different names due to the bad subtitle. To be honest, it's better to download sometimes.
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 12 2011, 11:48 PM)
yes, i do buy original dvds from anime shops but those aren't even really 'original' at the first place. The subtitle really sucks the big time. In a series, a character can have so many different names due to the bad subtitle. To be honest, it's better to download sometimes.
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http://www.amazon.co.jp/
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http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/
http://www.amiami.jp/shop/?set=english
http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main

Now that you know where to purchase original anime medias, there's nothing that can stop you from supporting them. wink.gif
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 12 2011, 05:42 PM)
Well, I just want to show my support but sigh, too many pirated dvds are sold here......
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Currently, the best way is still getting them online but only if you are able to do so. It will take time and yeah, money, so it's best to take it slow and easy. ~ Real official stuff is few and few here, and hard to find if you don't know how.

- Since the content of those *ahem* comes from different source, the subtitles or character names will always change and change... Already got used to them for quite a long time now - auto-mind-editing... laugh.gif

Anyway, wasted some money on the so-called metal box local dvd release which comes in 2 DVD-9 (pricing differ according to number of episodes) and all I can say is, "Oh boy, very compressive."... tongue.gif Noticeable compression especially for live action or CG scenes. Slightly passable for 2-D works. ~ Wouldn't have bought them if the taiwanese weren't so slow with their release... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ May 13 2011, 09:41 AM)
http://www.amazon.co.jp/
http://www.amazon.com/
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/
http://www.amiami.jp/shop/?set=english
http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main

Now that you know where to purchase original anime medias, there's nothing that can stop you from supporting them. wink.gif
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http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-13z-49-en.html
The shipping's a bit cheaper.
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There are some local companies tbat licenssd animes for lwgit and cheap, but it's hard to find them nowadays. Eva 2.0 dvd was one of those licenced legitly in Malaysia and Singapore and only cost RM20
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Ya, agree! from what I experience, most of the original anime selling here is not ORIGINAL, even they claim it is original.

I rather buy from online either from Japan release, if want cheaper can go for US or Taiwan release (still a lot more expensive than those 'original' here).

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Ya, agree! from what I experience, most of the original anime selling here is not ORIGINAL, even they claim it is original.

I rather buy from online either from Japan release, if want cheaper can go for US or Taiwan release (still a lot more expensive than those 'original' here).
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Only limited titles are licrnsed here. Iirc shin chan and card captor are ljcenssd but only in dubbed ver. Speedy has thw licenae crom tsuburaya for ultraman. And I think thete was a now bancrupt company that licensed hand maid.may.
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actually i encounter 1 anime DVD which i think is not tv ripped
the anime if i remember correctly is midori days
cuz the scene which involve topless women (yah u can see their boobs!!!)
is still intact no cut!!!!

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There are some local companies tbat licenssd animes for lwgit and cheap, but it's hard to find them nowadays. Eva 2.0 dvd was one of those licenced legitly in Malaysia and Singapore and only cost RM20
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Yup, that company is called Innoform (Singapore\Malaysia) who also released Steamboy, Appleseed(both in vcd format), Karas(there was a limited collector's edition with a figure) and Eva 1.0.

PS: Forgot to mention that Shin-chan, Doraemon and Chibimaruko and ect (All dubbed) are officially licensed under Animation International Limited based in Hong Kong ~ a company that infact used to release and sell *ahem* item under a similar name (you can the name under a blacklist in ebay)... tongue.gif They have an official branch in KL now though.

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Considering I've just entered late into the discussion, I'd like to know, are most "pirated" anime we got here from retails like Speedy etc. TV-rips?

When you mean ori, do you mean the DVD uncensored version, or the TV-rip censored version?
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Considering I've just entered late into the discussion, I'd like to know, are most "pirated" anime we got here from retails like Speedy etc. TV-rips?

When you mean ori, do you mean the DVD uncensored version, or the TV-rip censored version?
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Mostly, sometimes they ripped official dvds too...

Original official licensed and copyrighted stuff, both censored and uncensored.

PS: Speedy is not just into retails though, they are officially one of or the only biggest stockist wholesale supplier\distributor in our country and they are also a licensing agency (- official representative of Tsuburaya for the Ultraman franchise in both Malaysia and Singapore).

They hold the copyrights\license (broadcast and maybe dvd release) for several anime series and toku series (like the individual Kamen Rider titles), they actually own GSC cinema, and they are partners for both Warner Brosand 20th Century Fox and ect locally...
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Well, I've been trying to look for some uncensored DVDs. Most I've come across, (& regretfully bought) in video retails are censored TV rips. I don't mind if they're not ori, as long as they're not uncensored, which is getting rarer in Malaysia these days.

Odds are, 1 in 20, you might probably get the uncensored version of Qwaser (for e.g.).

Adding to the "middle finger" factor to most anime fans in Malaysia, is the apathetic tak-tau attitude of most retail assistants. Until you're testing the DVDs, asking the assistants whether the DVDs are uncensored or not is a painful exercise in frustration & head-to-desks.

I could get these anime from online, but the omputeh's copyright law just keeps getting in the way.
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There are some local companies tbat licenssd animes for lwgit and cheap, but it's hard to find them nowadays. Eva 2.0 dvd was one of those licenced legitly in Malaysia and Singapore and only cost RM20
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but their Karas is fansub lorh. and they only produce American movie and Kids' show nowadays
the name of company is InnoMedia iinm
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dude, its more like asking for pirate to label their product if it was ripped from TV or dvd itself.
kinda stupid question to ask for to begin with.
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http://www.amazon.co.jp/
http://www.amazon.com/
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/
http://www.amiami.jp/shop/?set=english
http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main

Now that you know where to purchase original anime medias, there's nothing that can stop you from supporting them. wink.gif
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I do purchase online but not always. I don't have credit card so it's a bit difficult for me to purchase online.

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I do purchase online but not always. I don't have credit card so it's a bit difficult for me to purchase online.
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look at credit/debit card section
debit card is easier to manage
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but their Karas is fansub lorh. and they only produce American movie and Kids' show nowadays
the name of company is InnoMedia iinm
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It's Innoform Media. Based in Singapore, branch in Malaysia. tongue.gif

Yeah... The subs for Karas is supposed to be *ahem*taken*ahem* from fansubs... laugh.gif

QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 13 2011, 10:24 PM)
I do purchase online but not always. I don't have credit card so it's a bit difficult for me to purchase online.
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Debit card is easier to apply and safer to use.
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exactly, so called licensed or got an approved sticker anime CD/DVD selling in Malaysia, most of them are actually from internet,

-.- subtitles very easy recognize, they are from fansubs,

odex, i'll pass that, sh!t quality, I rather buy originals ship from overseas, if no subtitles only original japanese dub, I'll still support :/

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subs fukken where
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what subs?
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take a guess from ur siggy lol
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Arakawa got no translator.. lol.. it won't be anytime soon gomen
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Anime prosout there, I need help.
Just bought Deagonball 1-153 and now learned that is it not "ori" even tho it has that crappy sticker...so

Can you guys give me guidelines how i wana buy the real original dragonball and dragonball Z from amazon.com or ebay.com(kinda familiar with ebay),any guidelines ?

I prefer the real japanese version with an english subtitle.


Added on July 28, 2011, 8:53 pmAlso,regarding the region thingy...we need to have region 0 or 3 only right?

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QUOTE(RageWeaver @ Jul 28 2011, 08:50 PM)
Anime prosout there, I need help.
Just bought Deagonball 1-153 and now learned that is it not "ori" even tho it has that crappy sticker...so

Can you guys give me guidelines how i wana buy the real original dragonball and dragonball Z from amazon.com or ebay.com(kinda familiar with ebay),any guidelines ?

I prefer the real japanese version with an english subtitle.


Added on July 28, 2011, 8:53 pmAlso,regarding the region thingy...we need to have region 0 or 3 only right?
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check if you can buy from amazon direct. ebay is still by users, so risk is there.

go ANN to look up license for US, for english sub and afaik, dual audio. that would be what you want, and do import (careful on customs etc)
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thanks man.

but amazon is always just have the USA version.....one thing is i dont really prefer it in the first place...second thing is its in region 1 and i can never play it here.
japanese amazon is all in japanese cant understand lol.
hmm...any ideas?

Whats up with the import thingy? we need to pay extra even after shipping and the product price?

ANN?whats that ya?
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QUOTE(RageWeaver @ Jul 28 2011, 09:16 PM)
thanks man.

but amazon is always just have the USA version.....one thing is i dont really prefer it in the first place...second thing is its in region 1 and i can never play it here.
japanese amazon is all in japanese cant understand lol.
hmm...any ideas?

Whats up with the import thingy? we need to pay extra even after shipping and the product price?

ANN?whats that ya?
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/

here i even did your homework for you: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycloped...nime.php?id=243
look for FUNIMATION license, and make sure its eng/jpn dual audio with eng sub

if you still picky, there is pure jpn audio no subtitle con lan firm original from amazon.co.jp

region issue, can always crack (google, lyn doesnt support piracy, even when you're not pirating anything, assuming you're really gonna buy the dvd set), or find region free dvd players.

customs tax basically, anything more than rm500 including shipping fee, will be subjected to tax of minimum 10%. more depending on the item category. and anything post rm1k will be on proper assessment which typically means even more tax.

of course, thats ASSUMING that your item gets detained by customs. if not detained, anything goes. prolly even a friggin corpse.
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damn thats like magic...i searched that site like more than 1 hour cant find anything related enough lol...thanks.
Now um gona google how to get region free dvd player.
Thanks mate

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 10 2006, 08:27 PM)
Actually, and easier way to identify bootlegged DVD/VCD is that they are the cheap ones that the shop has many stocks.
For quality, go for fansubs
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QUOTE(RageWeaver @ Jul 29 2011, 01:10 AM)
damn thats like magic...i searched that site like more than 1 hour cant find anything related enough lol...thanks.
Now um gona google how to get region free dvd player.
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Pioneer brand DVD players are region free (not sure if it's applicable to all their models) since I'm using it to watch R1 animes that I imported from USA.
Alternatively, there are cheap China-brand DVD players (those unknown brand types) since a friend that I lent my DVD to had one a few years back.

For PC, you can have Regionkiller software installed.
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Damn.. I always thought DVD with those KDN Sticker is original for sure.

How about website such as http://www.ShopOtaku.com or http://www.bestbuyanime.com ?

I bet they are not original too.


Added on July 30, 2011, 12:05 amAnother question. How about the action figure that is sell in M'sia?? Bootleg too??

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QUOTE(nano28 @ Jul 29 2011, 04:49 PM)
Damn.. I always thought DVD with those KDN Sticker is original for sure.

How about website such as http://www.ShopOtaku.com or http://www.bestbuyanime.com ?

I bet they are not original too.


Added on July 30, 2011, 12:05 amAnother question. How about the action figure that is sell in M'sia?? Bootleg too??
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First, look at those titles. For instance, Madoka is not yet all released in form of DVD/BD in Japan itself. How come they got it completed? Since the DVD and BD of the anime only currently at disc 4 (as in episode 8).

Second, there's a chance that the figures they sell might be bootlegs especially that shop in Plaza Low Yat. Some stuffs in Suncomic in Sg Wang Plaza also bootlegs (considering they also selling bootleg anime). If you want to be safe, go to XL-Shop in Berjaya Times Square for figurines.
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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Jul 30 2011, 02:58 AM)
First, look at those titles. For instance, Madoka is not yet all released in form of DVD/BD in Japan itself. How come they got it completed? Since the DVD and BD of the anime only currently at disc 4 (as in episode 8).

Second, there's a chance that the figures they sell might be bootlegs especially that shop in Plaza Low Yat. Some stuffs in Suncomic in Sg Wang Plaza also bootlegs (considering they also selling bootleg anime). If you want to be safe, go to XL-Shop in Berjaya Times Square for figurines.
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There is only one shop in Plaza Lowyat that sells action figures right?
I believe their Gundam is original. But I wonder about other figures.
How do you know that XL-Shop sells original figures?
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you can check their license stickers, or box,and xref it with online sites especially directly from manufacturer. additionally the price is also a decent guide, if its too cheap, something can be very much wrong. if they sell bootlegs at original item price, then it'll be harder to detect, though with experience, it shouldnt be that hard

at the end of the day buying from reputable sellers is the easiest way.
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QUOTE(nano28 @ Jul 29 2011, 04:49 PM)
Damn.. I always thought DVD with those KDN Sticker is original for sure.

How about website such as http://www.ShopOtaku.com or http://www.bestbuyanime.com ?

I bet they are not original too.


Added on July 30, 2011, 12:05 amAnother question. How about the action figure that is sell in M'sia?? Bootleg too??
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How to differenciate Ori / bootleg figure?

1. Price - If you have always update the latest figure release/news, u'll find that the price range for ori figure is quite high. The bootleg figure price maybe 30% of the ori.

2. Quality - If u own / see a ori figure in DETAIL (Box printing, figure painting, finishing) before, u'll be able to see the lousy quality of the bootleg figure in 1 sight, & most bootleg figure do not hv plastic paper to protect the figure inside the box.

With the experience of this 2 is enough for any1 to judge ori / bootleg figure easily.
Hope this help.
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How to differenciate Ori / bootleg figure?

1. Price - If you have always update the latest figure release/news, u'll find that the price range for ori figure is quite high. The bootleg figure price maybe 30% of the ori.

2. Quality - If u own / see a ori figure in DETAIL (Box printing, figure painting, finishing) before, u'll be able to see the lousy quality of the bootleg figure in 1 sight, & most bootleg figure do not hv plastic paper to protect the figure inside the box.

With the experience of this 2 is enough for any1 to judge ori / bootleg figure easily.
Hope this help.
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Thanks for the info.

Then I believe most action figures on Ebay are bootleg.

BTW, do you think this is bootleg or not..

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Original anime DVDs will takes century to reach Malaysia

Options :
~ Watch it online
~ No choice , buy it .
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Japan don't distribute anime DVD/Blu-Ray here. And no local companies have any relations to Japan distributors so only downloaded animes are sold here.
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Japan don't distribute anime DVD/Blu-Ray here. And no local companies have any relations to Japan distributors so only downloaded animes are sold here.
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That means, the police cannot do anything if I sell 'cetak rompak' version of anime at my house.

Since others also sell the pirate one.
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uhh oh ... my figurine took me 1 week to 2 week to arrive. so it is quite fast
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QUOTE(nano28 @ Aug 24 2011, 01:57 PM)
That means, the police cannot do anything if I sell 'cetak rompak' version of anime at my house.

Since others also sell the pirate one.
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They can because you didn't pay them to get the "Tulen" seal.
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uhh oh ... my figurine took me 1 week to 2 week to arrive. so it is quite fast
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Nice sarcasm. laugh.gif

BTW, where do you order the product?
Ebay, Amazon or others?
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I'm sorry, for those who have wallets to bust, money to burn, credit cards to be maxed out, sure, original animes DVDs sounds lovely as compared to pirated animes downloaded from BT.

We, mostly rakyat marhaens - cheapos that we are due to high living costs, have to contend with the original 'pirated' copy that mostly availabe in anime stores here.

Thankfully, now there are streaming sites for mostly all anime series, dubbed & subbed.

I got burned buying the pricey originals for Macross series (imported from Japan & Australia) and Robotech DVDs.

But that's it. Being married recently & stocking up on animes ain't that appealing anymore.
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just no.


I'm speaking hard truths here. We're complaining about the affordable original 'BT' copies of animes readily available. Most comes with LPF standard stickers.

If most of us are high middle income earners, then its our rights to demand only original animes. But the rest, are simply mid to low middle income earners.

Either buying legitimate original 'BT' copies or leeched 'em direct from BT or even the gazillions streaming sites out there.

No, I'm not encouraging buying pirated goods ... but hey, I still smelled hypocrisy when those self proclaimed anime lovers with money to burn still cheapos in their own rights as they watch animes via streaming sites ... the free ones ...
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 1 2011, 08:30 PM)
I'm speaking hard truths here. We're complaining about the affordable original 'BT' copies  of animes readily available. Most comes with LPF standard stickers.

If most of us are high middle income earners, then its our rights to demand only original animes. But the rest, are simply mid to low middle income earners.

Either buying legitimate original 'BT' copies or leeched 'em direct from BT or even the gazillions streaming sites out there.

No, I'm not encouraging buying pirated goods ... but hey, I still smelled hypocrisy when those self proclaimed anime lovers with money to burn still cheapos in their own rights as they watch animes via streaming sites ... the free ones ...
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There are cheap anime streaming sites. Just a few dollars. HD quality. Repeatable watch. Affordable for low-mid income earners (for instance, a site offered about USD 100 per year and that's about RM 25 per month and it's all access). If this low-mid income earners can buy RM 2k android phones with Digi line at RM 58 per month while subscribing Unifi at RM 150 per month, why not subscribing such site?
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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Nov 2 2011, 08:38 AM)
There are cheap anime streaming sites. Just a few dollars. HD quality. Repeatable watch. Affordable for low-mid income earners (for instance, a site offered about USD 100 per year and that's about RM 25 per month and it's all access). If this low-mid income earners can buy RM 2k android phones with Digi line at RM 58 per month while subscribing Unifi at RM 150 per month, why not subscribing such site?
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because there will always be "people" that bought an iphone (for $199+ 2yr contract / $659 unlocked), and complain about paying $0.99 or $1.99 for app / game from the App store tongue.gif
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downloading anime from the internet illegally and buying bootlegged copies are the same... both are piracy.

I don't understand why anyone should condone one act while happily doing the other.

At Hobbies and Collectibles section, we even have ppl selling bootlegged gundam model kits...LOL
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 1 2011, 08:12 PM)
I'm sorry, for those who have wallets to bust, money to burn, credit cards to be maxed out, sure, original animes DVDs sounds lovely as compared to pirated animes downloaded from BT.

We, mostly rakyat marhaens - cheapos that we are due to high living costs, have to contend with the original 'pirated' copy that mostly availabe in anime stores here.

Thankfully, now there are streaming sites for mostly all anime series, dubbed & subbed.

I got burned buying the pricey originals for Macross series (imported from Japan & Australia) and Robotech DVDs.

But that's it. Being married recently & stocking up on animes ain't that appealing anymore.
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just no.
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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Nov 2 2011, 08:38 AM)
There are cheap anime streaming sites. Just a few dollars. HD quality. Repeatable watch. Affordable for low-mid income earners (for instance, a site offered about USD 100 per year and that's about RM 25 per month and it's all access). If this low-mid income earners can buy RM 2k android phones with Digi line at RM 58 per month while subscribing Unifi at RM 150 per month, why not subscribing such site?
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>got free streaming sites
>but pay cheap streaming sites


Are those sites paying royalty to the said anime...?
The only legitimate one I think seems to be crunchyroll and many of the those said sites are illegitimate and take your money for illegally streaming it online, so that itself is pretty vague to support.

And, further most,
When you see something you wanted to buy in a shop on the floor, do you likely take it?
That's sums up the majority of normal people.

QUOTE(beb21 @ Nov 2 2011, 09:01 AM)
downloading anime from the internet illegally and buying bootlegged copies are the same... both are piracy.

I don't understand why anyone should condone one act while happily doing the other.

At Hobbies and Collectibles section, we even have ppl selling bootlegged gundam model kits...LOL
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Some people normally try to support the industry. Pirated figurines is pretty much a big NO still(at least in my book)
But anime, does it look any different if in original DVD/BD or stream/downloaded online? No, it's just a matter of feeling righteous of supporting the industry or not. And truthfully most people would rather stream or download. It's sad but but who are we kidding, most people want everything but don't have the money but still want it.

ADDED: Actually both are pretty bad but not paying for those pirated goods is slightly better I guess. And I mean who still buy piratedDVD/BD when you have the internet. Though I didn't know that anyone would condone one while ignoring the other.

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 1 2011, 08:30 PM)
I'm speaking hard truths here. We're complaining about the affordable original 'BT' copies  of animes readily available. Most comes with LPF standard stickers.

If most of us are high middle income earners, then its our rights to demand only original animes. But the rest, are simply mid to low middle income earners.

Either buying legitimate original 'BT' copies or leeched 'em direct from BT or even the gazillions streaming sites out there.

No, I'm not encouraging buying pirated goods ... but hey, I still smelled hypocrisy when those self proclaimed anime lovers with money to burn still cheapos in their own rights as they watch animes via streaming sites ... the free ones ...
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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Nov 2 2011, 08:38 AM)
There are cheap anime streaming sites. Just a few dollars. HD quality. Repeatable watch. Affordable for low-mid income earners (for instance, a site offered about USD 100 per year and that's about RM 25 per month and it's all access). If this low-mid income earners can buy RM 2k android phones with Digi line at RM 58 per month while subscribing Unifi at RM 150 per month, why not subscribing such site?
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not exactly all access. most sites have regional licenses that applied to only USA for instance. majority of "cheap" paid streaming sites (even NND, which is free) have licenses that only governs USA. for malaysia, if the anime production studio does not extend the license to say, malaysia, we wont get to watch it, period.


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QUOTE(beb21 @ Nov 2 2011, 09:01 AM)
downloading anime from the internet illegally and buying bootlegged copies are the same... both are piracy.

I don't understand why anyone should condone one act while happily doing the other.

At Hobbies and Collectibles section, we even have ppl selling bootlegged gundam model kits...LOL
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for the sake of "the better side" anyways, at least downloading you're not paying anyone. buying pirated/bootlegged copy pays the pirates, and in turn funds them to pirate more.


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if you're not gonna get your facts right, please just shut up.

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 1 2011, 09:30 PM)
I'm speaking hard truths here. We're complaining about the affordable original 'BT' copies  of animes readily available. Most comes with LPF standard stickers.

If most of us are high middle income earners, then its our rights to demand only original animes. But the rest, are simply mid to low middle income earners.

Either buying legitimate original 'BT' copies or leeched 'em direct from BT or even the gazillions streaming sites out there.

No, I'm not encouraging buying pirated goods ... but hey, I still smelled hypocrisy when those self proclaimed anime lovers with money to burn still cheapos in their own rights as they watch animes via streaming sites ... the free ones ...
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Except that some of the streaming sites that does it for free are legit?

Granted that its only available (currently) for the US and Canada; but still, its legit.

NicoNico Douga broadcasts Fate/Zero one hour after it is aired in Japan which, if you really didn't know, is legit.

Other animes like Guilty Crown, Future Diary (Mirai Nikki) etc are all stream by NND for free, which are all legit.

So there is no fault to be a cheapo if its legit in the first place right?

If they gave me an option to watch anime for free without having to pay Crunchyroll, then why the hell not?

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if you're not gonna get your facts right, please just shut up.
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Lol, you know this to be the truth. I might be generalizing but it's the cold hard truth as Protoculture said.
If I had an option to get it for free on internet without paying, then why the hell not?

Maybe you don't but that option is pretty tempting to a lot of people and the reason piracy/streaming/torrents/downloads are so rampant.

I guess that support my said facts.

QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 1 2011, 08:30 PM)
No, I'm not encouraging buying pirated goods ... but hey, I still smelled hypocrisy when those self proclaimed anime lovers with money to burn still cheapos in their own rights as they watch animes via streaming sites ... the free ones ...
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Though it looks to a lot of people here that you try to justify piracy. Piracy is bad and you should feel bad. Be a pirate but never try to justify beacuase you cannot justify being a pirate with reasons.
And, not all are hypocrites, some do watch anime through the legal means and as rad said some streaming sites are legal and free but there are also streaming sites which are free and illegal.

QUOTE(radkliler @ Nov 2 2011, 12:18 PM)
If they gave me an option to watch anime for free without having to pay Crunchyroll, then why the hell not?
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yeah i am quite mad. mad that i share the same nationality as you. sigeth
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 1 2011, 08:30 PM)
INo, I'm not encouraging buying pirated goods ... but hey, I still smelled hypocrisy when those self proclaimed anime lovers with money to burn still cheapos in their own rights as they watch animes via streaming sites ... the free ones ...
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As Jack Sparrow says.... Take all you can, give nothing back... Piracy is always a bad thing... It can't be justify... It's their right to earn money from their product and we

are here pratically stealing the right from them. But then there's no real solution for piracy as well when the people are embracing them. Just like Robin Hood, a spank brat

who steal from the rich and yet people are calling him the hero just because he gives money to them.. XD... If you can't afford it.... then make yourself earn more money

and buy it... =P
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yeah i am quite mad. mad that i share the same nationality as you. sigeth
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>nationality
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I am sorry but you imagemacros are quite wrong and unfunny.
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I am sorry but you imagemacros are quite wrong and unfunny.
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>implying I wanted to be right and funny.
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Merely stating the general situation. But oh well.
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As much as I'd like to image macro in return, doing so would only bring myself down to your pathetic level and that is something I don't think is quite appropriate for someone you seemingly presumed as "rich and righteousness fag detected".

ps: at least have the spine to host your own damn imagemacros. STAY CLASSY! *pinky finger motion*
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Retards going full retard as usual.
Nothing new folks, ignore it to avoid brain damage and move on.

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Nov 2 2011, 06:38 PM)
>implying I wanted to be right and funny.
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Merely stating the general situation. But oh well.
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Well I would say being rich and righteousness is a lot of thing but definitely not a fag...I would even go as far as to say u're offensive...

I agree with Quazacolt, ur image macros is unfunny, and irritating at times...

When i'm being taunted by someone like u.... I would definitely fight back.. =D whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Death_Scythe @ Nov 2 2011, 11:59 PM)
Well I would say being rich and righteousness is a lot of thing but definitely not a fag...I would even go as far as to say u're offensive...

I agree with Quazacolt, ur image macros is unfunny, and irritating at times...

When i'm being taunted by someone like u.... I would definitely fight back.. =D whistling.gif
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Lol bro, we are all fags in one way me included. I guess i know what word is taboo to you then. I guess being an average 4channer poster, immune to the word fag.

But I don't think he mad because of the reason you think he is, or is it?

If so, my humblest
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Lol bro, we are all fags in one way me included. I guess i know what word is taboo to you then. I guess being an average 4channer poster, immune to the word fag.

But I don't think he mad because of the reason you think he is, or is it?

If so, my humblest
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as any avg 4 channer would've said:

>implying

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>nationality
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As Jack Sparrow says.... Take all you can, give nothing back... Piracy is always a bad thing... It can't be justify... It's their right to earn money from their product and we are here pratically stealing the right from them. But then there's no real solution for piracy as well when the people are embracing them. Just like Robin Hood, a spank brat


I'm just speaking the cold hard truths. Take it or leave it. Or we can always agree to disagree.

This is coming from someone who in the 1990s tracked all original VHS anime release such as classic 3x3 Eyes, Akira & Ghost in the Shell. Yeah, I considered myself to be 1st gen Otakus in this country while most of the current gen-Y sucking 'em thumbs watching Pokemon.

The HARD FACT is, we don't have the luxury of having original animes distributed in the country, mostly pricey ones. The original versions that we've either had to be imported, or 'the butchered' aka LPF-censored versions.

That or get my hands on the original 'BT' versions on most anime stores, which surprisingly, are considered legit in the country (I know, I know ... this is Malaysia, everything boleh maaa).

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who steal from the rich and yet people are calling him the hero just because he gives money to them.. 


Another man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.

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XD... If you can't afford it.... then make yourself earn more moneyand buy it... =P


I don't buy animes anymore. Most recent animes that came out in late 1990s and 2000s are trash anyway, not worthwhile my RM. I just hunt for 1980's classics such as City Hunter, SDC Orguss, Bubblegum Crisis, Megazone 23, GallForce, Cats Eyes, etc. Those that I still get my greedy hands would still be any followup to Macross franchise & Gundam UC-verse that I'm passionate about.

BTW, getting married & started to plan for rearing a family re-oriented most of my finances. Getting busted my income for buying pricey anime DVDs is a big NO. Besides, when you reached a golden age of 30+ and counting, priorities takes precedents over youthful follies.

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See .... most of the forummers hide beneath all claptrap veneers & yet did it .... its just that I'm saying it out loud ....

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only took me less than 5 seconds to even google that picture out (keywords "malaysian otaku" if you're gonna ask). if its that high on the SEO, it kinda shows how sad this whole thing has gone to.
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ahhh..feels nostalgic lol,from that picture i've recalled that almost the whole /as/ having a face-off against a bootleg dvd seller long time ago...


and now...here we go again, keep em coming folks

both of these thread explains it

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1261518&hl=

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1262603&hl=


renung-renungkan dan selamat beramal

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ahhh..feels nostalgic lol,from that picture i've recalled that almost the whole /as/ having a face-off against a bootleg dvd seller long time ago...
and now...here we go again, keep em coming folks

both of these thread explains it

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1261518&hl=

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1262603&hl=
renung-renungkan dan selamat beramal
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ah nostalgia:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1261518?author=Quazacolt

i never managed to get the season 1 bluray box until this day. Need to source it from mandarake and budget havent been so kind lately. i still have those PA affiliate funds >.>
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this really a common thing here.. before, I'm also type of people who bought anime here cos I thought it was original.. :facepalm:

thinking of buying them in Amazon but the price really quite high and you must wait for it to arrive.. really hate that
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only took me less than 5 seconds to even google that picture out (keywords "malaysian otaku" if you're gonna ask). if its that high on the SEO, it kinda shows how sad this whole thing has gone to.
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actually those malaysia version anime usually pack hundreds of episodes into a box, while original anime takes a whole shelf for a series...

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very nostalgic indeed ..
I never managed to get any original BDs (only have 1 free dvd got by buying figma)
might buy brs tv animes though ...that is ..IF its good (and if have cash to do that of course)
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actually those malaysia version anime usually pack hundreds of episodes into a box, while original anime takes a whole shelf for a series...
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I think what he meant was it's cheaper to buy bootlegged ones since it's cheap and comes in a whole series in a box. But he miss the fact that single episode disc were fun too. It's just like manga where you need to wait for the episode. And sometime, they throw in some treats or goodies you would not expect. Also, Original disc are much better in quality. My old collections mostly gold DVDs >8 years are still running good and clear on today's sharp LCD screens.

I still remember during the 80s, don't have money so I just rent. We can only get dubbed ones. But it's ok, since we're still young.
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I think what he meant was it's cheaper to buy bootlegged ones since it's cheap and comes in a whole series in a box. But he miss the fact that single episode disc were fun too. It's just like manga where you need to wait for the episode. And sometime, they throw in some treats or goodies you would not expect. Also, Original disc are much better in quality. My old collections mostly gold DVDs >8 years are still running good and clear on today's sharp LCD screens.

I still remember during the 80s, don't have money so I just rent. We can only get dubbed ones. But it's ok, since we're still young.
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you would think that being a posted of this thread in its early pages (2010) and also amongst those "nostalgia" threads, i wouldn't be able to figure it out. that, or 3 years time to figure this whole deal out.

really?

and-

>DVD quality
>good and clear on today's sharp LCD

ISHYGDDT

and for the sake of it, i hope you're referring to the brand sharp, so i can just condemn to that one brand, instead of the entire LCD technology as a whole.
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The Fate/Zero official site has updated with the details for the first Blu-ray Box set that will contain the 13 episodes of the first half of the series and various un-aired cut scenes will be included in them. The episodes will have subtitles in English and Japanese.

The Original Soundtrack vol. 1, composed by Yuki Kajiura will be bundled as a Bonus CD. Other Bonuses include Fate/Zero Animation Material (Interviews, production notes, and concept artwork), Trailer Collection (Album Vol.1, 2nd promo video), TV SPOT (7 CMs), Non-Credit Opening and Ending, and a Drama CD. The box art will be drawn by Takashi Takeuchi.

The package will retail at ¥39,900 (tax included), and will be released on March 7, 2012.

Title: Fate/Zero Blu-Ray Disc Box I
Release Date: March 7, 2012
Product code: ANZX9431 ~ 9437
Price: ¥39,900 (tax included)
Video: 16:9 / HD widescreen / 1920 × 1080p / MPEG-4 AVC
Sound: Linear PCM (stereo) 48KHz / 24bit
Subtitles:English, Japanese


http://canta-per-me.net/2011/10/%E3%80%8Ef...st-1-announced/

That's approximately RM 1,600, amounting to about RM 125+ per TV episode. Let's assume you can afford to pay for it - would you value an anime enough to pay for it at this price? If you were the owner of such content, how much would you charge for each episode, taking business sense into account and all?

Another example is the Kara no Kyoukai BD box, retailed at JPY 52500 for 8 movies, that's approximately RM 2100+, or RM 260+ per theatrical movie.
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http://canta-per-me.net/2011/10/%E3%80%8Ef...st-1-announced/

That's approximately RM 1,600, amounting to about RM 125+ per TV episode. Let's assume you can afford to pay for it - would you value an anime enough to pay for it at this price? If you were the owner of such content, how much would you charge for each episode, taking business sense into account and all?

Another example is the Kara no Kyoukai BD box, retailed at JPY 52500 for 8 movies, that's approximately RM 2100+, or RM 260+ per theatrical movie.
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Depends. This for me is how they think Japanese fans would value the work that they did, and are willing to pay for it. Then again, you are not counting that this also includes extra stuffs eg: scenes/audio/behind the scene/artbook or such which would be a collectors item.

For me even if I have the money it's not worth it since I don't treasure the extra stuffs that they include with the set, but if a local company would license the series, and release a cheap version without the extras, then why not?
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QUOTE(Silencers @ Dec 25 2011, 07:54 PM)
http://canta-per-me.net/2011/10/%E3%80%8Ef...st-1-announced/

That's approximately RM 1,600, amounting to about RM 125+ per TV episode. Let's assume you can afford to pay for it - would you value an anime enough to pay for it at this price? If you were the owner of such content, how much would you charge for each episode, taking business sense into account and all?

Another example is the Kara no Kyoukai BD box, retailed at JPY 52500 for 8 movies, that's approximately RM 2100+, or RM 260+ per theatrical movie.
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for an english subtitled officially from japan bd with all its japanese goodies/collector's item, and from a person who does buy these sorta things on a *rather frequent* basis, i can dare say its DAMN CHEAP.

again, thats from my perspective smile.gif
hell, was actually considering to buy the bd box myself, but then i really need to get my priorities straight and fulfill some pending things thats been in the back burner for far too long than it should be. so that's that.
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QUOTE(Rufa @ Jul 24 2010, 04:45 PM)
Then this company also sell bootleg?

http://vbg.com.my/index.php?option=com_con...id=66&Itemid=26

Their stuff are pretty expensive for bootleg  shocking.gif 

That's so sad.
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Dunno for Naruto, but VBG is official licensee for One Piece.
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Dunno for Naruto, but VBG is official licensee for One Piece.
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official?... they are using downloaded anime for the dvd. sweat.gif
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VGB was never official
there's no official license for anime in malaysia unfortunately
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QUOTE(merru @ Feb 17 2012, 02:28 PM)
VGB was never official
there's no official license for anime in malaysia unfortunately
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not exactly true, however, it wont be any of the recent anime, and the % of legit license, are too rare to bother.
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Somehow i doubt whether the "original" DVD package offered in retail shop is officially licensed by Japan company.
So far i haven't found any original blu-ray anime sold in video retail shop (Speedy, town records) in Malaysia. correct me if i am wrong.
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QUOTE(merru @ Feb 17 2012, 02:28 PM)
VGB was never official
there's no official license for anime in malaysia unfortunately
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translation?

even if they are legit at buying the license. they might only purchase one season... and claim every other season at legit

the design of the box is not official pictures, they are those floating in the internet... they even use pixiv artist artwork on the dvd design.
same problem with the dvd menu... they use pixiv artwork and internet pictures.
the video content is tv version, you can see announcement like earthquake, storm.. etc , this confirm they download the anime to release on dvd.
the dvd don't have makings, special, extras that original dvd will have listed.

currently there's 535 episodes of one piece...

the latest VBG dvd release episode 528 - 531
retail price at MYR 16.90

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compare with the official dvd release date from japan...

Seventh DVD release from anime series "ONE PIECE 14th Season Marin Ford Hen." Features episodes 483 through 486. (04/04/2012)
retail price at MYR 173.01

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AVBA-49485

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how's the quality from those like

1. Funimation http://www.funimation.com/
2. Anime Legends (Bandai) http://www.bandai-ent.com/ (store at http://astore.amazon.com/bandaientert-20 )
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Feb 18 2012, 01:10 AM)
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In Malaysia, VBG is the licensee. Licensing is done per country/region basis. Packaging and number of episodes of original product for each country/region may vary.

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even if they are legit at buying the license. they might only purchase one season... and claim every other season at legit
I'll try asking about that next time.

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currently there's 535 episodes of one piece...
the latest VBG dvd release episode 528 - 531
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compare with the official dvd release date from japan...
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the dvd don't have makings, special, extras that original dvd will have listed.
Although given the rights to copy and distribute One Piece episodes, they won't necessarily produce the same DVD as the licensee in Japan (avex movie) does. In fact, if they want, they can have two licensees in Japan, each with their own style of packaging, with different bonus contents. It's just that it doesn't make sense to do so.

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the design of the box is not official pictures, they are those floating in the internet... they even use pixiv artist artwork on the dvd design.
same problem with the dvd menu... they use pixiv artwork and internet pictures.
the video content is tv version, you can see announcement like earthquake, storm.. etc , this confirm they download the anime to release on dvd.
Hmmm this might spell trouble. Copyright of Pixiv artwork is owned by both pixiv (for only on pixiv.net) and the artist (for anywhere else). And if the video is taken from tv airing, then the tv station holds partial copyright (IANAL so I can't confirm this) for any overlays.
If Toei knows their license is being used for infringing copyright of others, they might revoke it.

I think I'll send the next e-mail next Monday. I'll ask about:
1) How many episodes/seasons the license is valid for,
2) Usage of content from third party without permission (I don't have my own proof for this though), including fan-arts and TV airings,
3) Sale to other regions

Got anything else to ask?
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LOL! you people talk like working for our government.

are you guys trying to catch pirated company or finding an excuse to buy or download pirated stuff?

Mostly anime title that you guys see on the internet (except Malaysia product) are from companies like Crunchy Roll or Funimation. These companies are legit licensee from various countries but does not & never covers Malaysia.

I dunno the rest, but VBG & Lambaian Filem is under same company & they're currently one of the copyrights holder for some anime.

Anyway, its useless to argue if they're really legit or not..it's only matter if you trust them. If you don't , you can support foreign companies & there goes our country's currency flow.

BTW, do you guys know that many Japanese started to buy anime products from Malaysia seller? cos i got fren selling to them via online personal websites specially for selling anime.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 18 2012, 11:37 AM)
how's the quality from those like

1. Funimation http://www.funimation.com/
2. Anime Legends (Bandai) http://www.bandai-ent.com/ (store at http://astore.amazon.com/bandaientert-20 )
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is 1080 from crunchyshit enough to satisfy you? if yes, then you wont have any problems with funimation or even bandai US license as they recently have 1080 bluray releases
eg: maiwaifu release season1 was in DVD and season2 they finally got bd. thinking of getting season 1 but then i would have so many "copies" of it and i don't exactly print money sad.gif

funimation is also re-releasing some old titles into 1080 bluray.
so long its bluray i don't think it will be of any problem in terms of picture quality.

DVD as we alll know, is in abysmal resolutions especially when you have a 46" 1080 at home, or even on a 23" 1080 computer led monitor as you're sitting much closer to the screen.

basically, professional subs (tend to be more literal/dumbed down) and... that's it. in fact, for the *MOST* part unless it is original 1080 source from jpn, american encoding is actually better than Japanese up-scales rofl
Japanese cannot into modern encode/upscale tongue.gif

fact: even on bluray and even on 1080, most "slice of life shows" even until today, are just 720p up-scales.
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QUOTE(syockit @ Feb 18 2012, 11:52 AM)
In Malaysia, VBG is the licensee. Licensing is done per country/region basis. Packaging and number of episodes of original product for each country/region may vary.

I'll try asking about that next time.

Although given the rights to copy and distribute One Piece episodes, they won't necessarily produce the same DVD as the licensee in Japan (avex movie) does. In fact, if they want, they can have two licensees in Japan, each with their own style of packaging, with different bonus contents. It's just that it doesn't make sense to do so.

Hmmm this might spell trouble. Copyright of Pixiv artwork is owned by both pixiv (for only on pixiv.net) and the artist (for anywhere else). And if the video is taken from tv airing, then the tv station holds partial copyright (IANAL so I can't confirm this) for any overlays.
If Toei knows their license is being used for infringing copyright of others, they might revoke it.

I think I'll send the next e-mail next Monday. I'll ask about:
1) How many episodes/seasons the license is valid for,
2) Usage of content from third party without permission (I don't have my own proof for this though), including fan-arts and TV airings,
3) Sale to other regions

Got anything else to ask?
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1) Packaging must use the artwork provided specially for each season or movie and gain design approval from japan HQ.
2) The content of the DVD should be DVD version video, not TV version with TV logo and earthquake or storm announcement happening at japan.
3) Licensee can release content faster than the official content release date? licensee can only be slower or release date on the same day as the official japan release date.

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the artwork is from the one piece movie strong world, not for tv series usage. (Eiichiro Oda specially design this special outfit for the movie strong world)
there is no copyright disclaimer for Eiichiro Oda and Toei
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Hmmmm....
This thread starts to get interesting with the mail from Toei
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1) Packaging must use the artwork provided specially for each season or movie and gain design approval from japan HQ.
Covered in point 2 of question I'm going to ask.
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2) The content of the DVD should be DVD version video, not TV version with TV logo and earthquake or storm announcement happening at japan.
Depending on the wording of the license, licensee can produce any version as long as it's from the master copy provided by Toei. If Toei chose to release to VBG only the old master copy used for TV air, then they have to make do with it.
Regarding logo, various announcement telops, that will also be covered in point 2. It could prove that VBG never used master copy.
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3) Licensee can release content faster than the official content release date? licensee can only be slower or release date on the same day as the official japan release date.
I don't understand what you are saying. By "official content release date", do you mean Japan licensee's release date? Release date of Japan DVD is not determined by Toei only. It also depends on Avex Movie (Japan licensee). Because release by VBG is, in Malaysia, also official content. If Toei allows earlier release by other licensees, then it's possible for VBG to release latest episodes earlier. Anyway, this will be covered in point 1 (regarding number of episodes the license is valid for)

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the artwork is from the one piece movie strong world, not for tv series usage. (Eiichiro Oda specially design this special outfit for the movie strong world)
there is no copyright disclaimer for Eiichiro Oda and Toei
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There is a general disclaimer there, so both Oda-sensei or Toei probably won't nitpick on this one. As for the artwork usage, I don't think Toei cares, but Oda-sensei may care, and if he does, he can complain directly to Toei. Therefore, this matter won't be in my e-mail. If you think this misuse of artwork will diminish the good name of One Piece, try reporting to Oda-sensei directly about this. (better if you complain directly to VBG first. doubt they'll listen though…)
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Depending on the wording of the license, licensee can produce any version as long as it's from the master copy provided by Toei. If Toei chose to release to VBG only the old master copy used for TV air, then they have to make do with it.

Regarding logo, various announcement telops, that will also be covered in point 2. It could prove that VBG never used master copy.
the logo and announcement appeared during TV show is added by the television station themselves. This means that even if toei give VBG the master copy the TV station is using, there won't be any logo or announcements in that master copy that VBG will be receiving. It will be a clean master copy without any logos or announcements.

this can only happen when you download from the internet and use it as the master copy.

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I don't understand what you are saying. By "official content release date", do you mean Japan licensee's release date? Release date of Japan DVD is not determined by Toei only. It also depends on Avex Movie (Japan licensee). Because release by VBG is, in Malaysia, also official content. If Toei allows earlier release by other licensees, then it's possible for VBG to release latest episodes earlier. Anyway, this will be covered in point 1 (regarding number of episodes the license is valid for)


Licensee can never release anything earlier than the official release date approved by master licensor.
There is a global release date, this is to protect other licensee throughout the world and the main licensor. Licensee can only release slower, but never faster than the main licensor.

Never any dvd or blu-ray release should release this quick after tv station airing date, VBG is releasing the dvd after every four episode TV airing broadcast.

Japan is the main profit market, they need to secure the main profit market first. VBG release currently overtake Japan DVD release date nearly 50 episodes and selling it at RM16.90

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There is a general disclaimer there, so both Oda-sensei or Toei probably won't nitpick on this one. As for the artwork usage, I don't think Toei cares, but Oda-sensei may care, and if he does, he can complain directly to Toei. Therefore, this matter won't be in my e-mail. If you think this misuse of artwork will diminish the good name of One Piece, try reporting to Oda-sensei directly about this. (better if you complain directly to VBG first. doubt they'll listen though…)


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this is added on the few box of the VBG design.

(©EIICHIRO ODA/SHUEISHA, TOEI ANIMATION)

It's a must to include the author and toei logo to protect the author and company copyright owner, creative copyright is very important in this industries.
easier reference, you can look at the figurine box you purchase. It will have the character author and the company copyright owner.

Artwork is an important asset in creative industries, since Oda-sensei allowed Toei to publish his works. Toei is responsible protect Oda-sensei works.
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10 working days passed, but no reply from Toei. So rainy~days, you've probably hit the jackpot.
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QUOTE(syockit @ Mar 6 2012, 02:20 PM)
10 working days passed, but no reply from Toei. So rainy~days, you've probably hit the jackpot.
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so is toei buttmad?
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QUOTE(syockit @ Mar 6 2012, 02:20 PM)
10 working days passed, but no reply from Toei. So rainy~days, you've probably hit the jackpot.
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give Toei the final blow~~ whistling.gif

you can refer Toei their websites too thumbup.gif

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seems that they get the merchandise from this taiwan company

http://www.e-muse.com.tw/

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Wasn't the bootleg/import loophole discussed in this thread before?
What these Malaysian anime distributors do is basically this

1. Taiwan/HK/Whatever boolegs the anime
2. Claims to own distributing license/rights whatever
3. Malaysian companies import these things from Taiwan
4. tell the Govt that they are importing a legitimately licensed product
5. ???
6. PROFIT.

Of course, Malaysian gahmen cannot accuse the Taiwan companies of selling bootleg shit because obviously Malaysian law doesn't apply to Taiwan. And that's how you get cheap anime DVDs that are filled with fansubs downloaded for free from the Internet.
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QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 13 2012, 02:42 PM)
Wasn't the bootleg/import loophole discussed in this thread before?
What these Malaysian anime distributors do is basically this

1. Taiwan/HK/Whatever boolegs the anime
2. Claims to own distributing license/rights whatever
3. Malaysian companies import these things from Taiwan
4. tell the Govt that they are importing a legitimately licensed product
5. ???
6. PROFIT.

Of course, Malaysian gahmen cannot accuse the Taiwan companies of selling bootleg shit because obviously Malaysian law doesn't apply to Taiwan. And that's how you get cheap anime DVDs that are filled with fansubs downloaded for free from the Internet.
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Hmm seeing that AFKL is having an American voice actor as their GoH, how many fans in Malaysia that actually import their animes from the US?

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you can refer Toei their websites too  thumbup.gif
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I've included the links in my last mail (3 weeks ago), asking whether they had rights to release episodes that were just aired, and whether they had rights to export to other countries. And I pointed out that VBG's 'official' distributor, AnimationLV, sells to Japan as well.

QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 13 2012, 02:42 PM)
Wasn't the bootleg/import loophole discussed in this thread before?
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The problem is that VBG is an official licensee. But they misused the license.
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Hmm seeing that AFKL is having an American voice actor as their GoH, how many fans in Malaysia that actually import their animes from the US?
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Animax show anime in english dub.
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QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 13 2012, 03:59 PM)
Animax show anime in english dub.
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They are using Singaporean dubbers, not US. And Animax don't even list the names

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Hi, I come across this post and I have question about buying Anime from US then ship them to Malaysia,

I just wonder:
1. Does Malaysia Custom permit and won't confiscate Anime blu-ray disc that ship from US?

2. Will Malaysia Custom charge any additional tax for Anime blu-ray disc?

Actually I plan to purchase quite lot blu-ray disc box set (Age Rating: 16+) from RightStufAnime,

they all cost around USD 1215, so I just wonder if Malaysia Custom will allow them to be ship to Malaysia?

will really Appreciate if you can share with me your experience, thanks!
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Does buying it from anime events conventions also means your buying from bootleg?

 

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