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Pai
post Apr 11 2009, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(hacker6280 @ Apr 11 2009, 06:49 PM)
I got my first property at instalment more than 1/3 of my salary.
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same here. tongue.gif

ALtho not sure if banks has really tighten their lending policy since then smile.gif

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post Apr 11 2009, 07:38 PM

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meejawa,

you made me think of getting another property. was cleaning out one of the houses my uncle asked me to jaga and it reminded me of how much i enjoy being a landlord biggrin.gif . summore maybank just revised their monthly repayment installment and there are more cash in my pocket now (enough for teh tarik, mee goreng and kuih2 tongue.gif). ah, good times smile.gif




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post Apr 11 2009, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 11 2009, 07:29 PM)
same here.  tongue.gif

ALtho not sure if banks has really tighten their lending policy since then  smile.gif
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Pai, they did.

I was talking with UOB and found out their lending policy for apartment just went to 80%.
Luckily my banker got me 83% of the SAP price, or 100% of the seller asking price.
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Apr 11 2009, 07:46 PM)
Pai, they did.

I was talking with UOB and found out their lending policy for apartment just went to 80%.
Luckily my banker got me 83% of the SAP price, or 100% of the seller asking price.
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thats bcoz you have more than 1 prop, no? tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2009, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 11 2009, 07:48 PM)
thats bcoz you have more than  1 prop, no?  tongue.gif
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First property nia.
No credit card, no loan.

Talk to my agent today, she said some of her client are not able to secure the loan.
Loan may be cheap but now more stringent.
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Apr 11 2009, 07:51 PM)
Loan may be cheap but now more stringent.
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my exact fear just a year ago sad.gif



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post Apr 11 2009, 09:03 PM

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is that true ? In Penang, I can still get 90%. For uncompleted, I can even get 95%.
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post Apr 12 2009, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 11 2009, 07:38 PM)
meejawa,

you made me think of getting another property. was cleaning out one of the houses my uncle asked me to jaga and it reminded me of how much i enjoy being a landlord biggrin.gif . summore maybank just revised their monthly repayment installment and there are more cash in my pocket now (enough for teh tarik, mee goreng and kuih2 tongue.gif). ah, good times smile.gif
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good for you. I mean think abt it, current times don't tell a bit on when and where the bottom is, so what to do?

New:
There are not many new launches, but those with reputable developers can afford to offer 0% interest during construction, and some even payment free for 12-24 months after VP. By then hopefully economy will pick up, but no one knows. This is the biggest risk. But reputable developers don't translate into good products at good locations. Eg, I'm not touching Sime's at all, but IGB, Mutiara Rini, Sunrise is ok.

Sub-sale:
This can be found in many places, but in prime location, the drop is not much except maybe in KLCC and Mont Kiara. Do you know MK10 is selling lower than developers' price now? smile.gif That's why they are offering the MK11 (reputed to be the KLCC of MK) at 0% interest, and 2 years pay-nothing-scheme. Imagine the savings! This will be completed by Q4 2011. Is this a good investment? You make the call. Bangsar's prices surprisingly hold up pretty well, hard to find a killing there. KLCC aim now, accumulate bullets, and in 6 months' time, can start shooting.


Added on April 12, 2009, 10:19 am
QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 11 2009, 08:35 PM)
my exact fear just a year ago  sad.gif
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Pai,

Use some tactics. Remember loans don't show up in CCRIS/banks' database if you have not sign the loan offer letter. icon_idea.gif If maneuvered well, at the end of the day you will get much more than banks allow. (this is how I got the 7 props early on with RM4500 salary blush.gif )


Added on April 12, 2009, 10:20 am
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 11 2009, 09:03 PM)
is that true ? In Penang, I can still get 90%. For uncompleted, I can even get 95%.
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with MRTA? I guess maybe due to freehold and limited land space, and not too much speculation in the past few years. LAunches also I think pick up only last year, unlike KLCC.

This post has been edited by meejawa: Apr 12 2009, 10:20 AM
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post Apr 12 2009, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 12 2009, 10:17 AM)
good for you. I mean think abt it, current times don't tell a bit on when and where the bottom is, so what to do?

New:
There are not many new launches, but those with reputable developers can afford to offer 0% interest during construction, and some even payment free for 12-24 months after VP. By then hopefully economy will pick up, but no one knows. This is the biggest risk. But reputable developers don't translate into good products at good locations. Eg, I'm not touching Sime's at all, but IGB, Mutiara Rini, Sunrise is ok.

Sub-sale:
This can be found in many places, but in prime location, the drop is not much except maybe in KLCC and Mont Kiara. Do you know MK10 is selling lower than developers' price now?  smile.gif That's why they are offering the MK11 (reputed to be the KLCC of MK) at 0% interest, and 2 years pay-nothing-scheme. Imagine the savings! This will be completed by Q4 2011. Is this a good investment? You make the call. Bangsar's prices surprisingly hold up pretty well, hard to find a killing there. KLCC aim now, accumulate bullets, and in 6 months' time, can start shooting.


Added on April 12, 2009, 10:19 am

Pai,

Use some tactics. Remember loans don't show up in CCRIS/banks' database if you have not sign the loan offer letter.  icon_idea.gif If maneuvered well, at the end of the day you will get much more than banks allow. (this is how I got the 7 props early on with RM4500 salary  blush.gif )


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with MRTA? I guess maybe due to freehold and limited land space, and not too much speculation in the past few years. LAunches also I think pick up only last year, unlike KLCC.
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90% is with MRTA. 95% is without MRTA.
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post Apr 12 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:30 AM)
90% is with MRTA. 95% is without MRTA.
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ei? shocking.gif terbalik issit?
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QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 12 2009, 10:33 AM)
ei?  shocking.gif  terbalik issit?
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No gua.
90% loan . So bank can loan you the money to buy MRTA lor.
95% loan . Bank don't want to loan you money to MRTA coz u take too much loan liao. You need to pay MRTA in cashl\ tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2009, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:35 AM)
No gua.
90% loan . So bank can loan you the money to buy MRTA lor.
95% loan . Bank don't want to loan you money to MRTA coz u take too much loan liao. You need to pay MRTA in cashl\ tongue.gif
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Interesting...
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post Apr 12 2009, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:35 AM)
No gua.
90% loan . So bank can loan you the money to buy MRTA lor.
95% loan . Bank don't want to loan you money to MRTA coz u take too much loan liao. You need to pay MRTA in cashl\ tongue.gif
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First time hearing of this.

which bank is this? shocking.gif
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post Apr 12 2009, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Apr 12 2009, 12:57 PM)
First time hearing of this.

which bank is this?  shocking.gif
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Maybank? I tot its normal practice???
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QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 12 2009, 10:17 AM)
Pai,
Use some tactics. Remember loans don't show up in CCRIS/banks' database if you have not sign the loan offer letter.  icon_idea.gif If maneuvered well, at the end of the day you will get much more than banks allow. (this is how I got the 7 props early on with RM4500 salary  blush.gif )
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Very good point boss notworthy.gif

And lemme guess, when you were earning 4.5k p/m, u bought few properties at 1 go and submit to different banks? tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2009, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 12 2009, 10:17 AM)

Pai,

Use some tactics. Remember loans don't show up in CCRIS/banks' database if you have not sign the loan offer letter.  icon_idea.gif If maneuvered well, at the end of the day you will get much more than banks allow. (this is how I got the 7 props early on with RM4500 salary  blush.gif )
notworthy.gif I am almost having the same salary bracket but onli manage to get 2 prop now.. Respect ur maneuvers..

But I can imagine the countless sleepless night that you had those days tongue.gif ..

This post has been edited by eugene jk: Apr 12 2009, 03:05 PM
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post Apr 12 2009, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 12 2009, 02:58 PM)
when you were earning 4.5k p/m, u bought few properties at 1 go and submit to different banks?  tongue.gif
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Salut, i never think of this. lol
I still have some loan buffer, is marc a good buy now? I only can afford smallest unit...
or should wait till it drop until 700-800psf? cheapest 920psf i saw from iprop.

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QUOTE(hacker6280 @ Apr 12 2009, 03:20 PM)
Salut, i never think of this. lol
I still have some loan buffer, is marc a good buy now? I only can afford smallest unit...
or should wait till it drop until 700-800psf? cheapest 920psf i saw from iprop.
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IMO, Marc will never be a good buy unless you can get smallest unit for less than 350k. Wont touch anything above that.

BTS is a better alternative IMO smile.gif


Added on April 12, 2009, 3:44 pm
QUOTE(hacker6280 @ Apr 12 2009, 03:20 PM)
Salut, i never think of this. lol
I still have some loan buffer, is marc a good buy now? I only can afford smallest unit...
or should wait till it drop until 700-800psf? cheapest 920psf i saw from iprop.
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IMO, Marc will never be a good buy unless you can get smallest unit for less than 350k. Wont touch anything above that.

BTS is a better alternative IMO smile.gif



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post Apr 12 2009, 05:08 PM

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350k??? I doubt it will reach 350k for the smallest unit.

i think 850 would be a good entry. Look for Tower A. It comes with car park.
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QUOTE(putraperdana @ Apr 12 2009, 05:08 PM)
350k??? I doubt it will reach 350k for the smallest unit.

i think 850 would be a good entry. Look for Tower A. It comes with car park.
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850? hmmm, try idaman, dua, hampshire. but i do agree at that price you can get decent return as well.


Added on April 12, 2009, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 12 2009, 02:58 PM)
Very good point boss  notworthy.gif

And lemme guess, when you were earning 4.5k p/m, u bought few properties at 1 go and submit to different banks?  tongue.gif
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Bingo mate, even within same bank there're ways to do it. There are some banks (will let you do a little search) where your "other commitments" are not shown in their database, ie they only compare against what you have with them. Don't bet on good rates or features though. I'm sure all these not new to you la. rclxms.gif


Added on April 12, 2009, 6:27 pm
QUOTE(eugene jk @ Apr 12 2009, 03:03 PM)
notworthy.gif  I am almost having the same salary bracket but onli manage to get 2 prop now..  Respect ur maneuvers..

But I can imagine the countless sleepless night that you had those days tongue.gif ..
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That's because you props are mahal ones i guess. The ones I got was all below RM250k, mostly below RM200k. biggrin.gif Students market. Felt good for a while, until I saw the way my props are turned inside out crazy. Since then, no more students market. blush.gif

This post has been edited by meejawa: Apr 12 2009, 06:28 PM

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