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Investment Could I buy an RM 150K apartment with just RM 5K, RM 5K of downpayment - Future Plannings

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meejawa
post Apr 10 2009, 10:04 PM

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This has interestingly swerve from the TS's question, but it actually made it more ...interesting. biggrin.gif

5k to get 150k prop is not impossible as many sifus here have proven time and again. Nevertheless I'd strongly encourage you to read up, discuss many times and have a guiding hand if possible to go through your first property. Sifus like Pai or Phoeni can probably look at a property and almost instantly know whether it's worth investing, and if yes, if it can be done for "free" notworthy.gif This is from experience, and sometimes you will find new ways to do things which works well for you.

When I was young (they say young man no scared wan drool.gif )..I bought 4 properties in a year, and 7 in 2 years. Being naive/greedy/agressive/eager, it was a really steep learning curve, and I don't wish it upon anyone. It was not a totally bad decision though, it's just that there are better ways to have sleepless nights. (Again, being so daring when young, those nights were not that frequent also la)

Anyway, long story short, now I'm having a short list of properties that I've studied and plonk my blood and sweat cash into, and along the way get much help and help others on new ways to do things. I learned that in property investments, it just squeeze so much brainjuice out of me, and from there many ideas, silly and not so, came about. All about passion, if not how do you think Phoeni and his Mrs. can drive around on weekends hunting for bargains? smile.gif

If you are serious in investments, have something like mission statements. The objectives of diff ppl can be diff, to such extend 2 competent investors can look at the same condo and disagree on whether it's a good investment or not.

Anyway, I've digresses quite a bit too. Good luck TS.

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post Apr 11 2009, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 11 2009, 05:29 PM)

Added on April 11, 2009, 5:31 pm
wah boss, u must be doing fairly well to be able to afford 7 props when you were young  notworthy.gif
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cheap cheap wan laa icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 12 2009, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 11 2009, 07:38 PM)
meejawa,

you made me think of getting another property. was cleaning out one of the houses my uncle asked me to jaga and it reminded me of how much i enjoy being a landlord biggrin.gif . summore maybank just revised their monthly repayment installment and there are more cash in my pocket now (enough for teh tarik, mee goreng and kuih2 tongue.gif). ah, good times smile.gif
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good for you. I mean think abt it, current times don't tell a bit on when and where the bottom is, so what to do?

New:
There are not many new launches, but those with reputable developers can afford to offer 0% interest during construction, and some even payment free for 12-24 months after VP. By then hopefully economy will pick up, but no one knows. This is the biggest risk. But reputable developers don't translate into good products at good locations. Eg, I'm not touching Sime's at all, but IGB, Mutiara Rini, Sunrise is ok.

Sub-sale:
This can be found in many places, but in prime location, the drop is not much except maybe in KLCC and Mont Kiara. Do you know MK10 is selling lower than developers' price now? smile.gif That's why they are offering the MK11 (reputed to be the KLCC of MK) at 0% interest, and 2 years pay-nothing-scheme. Imagine the savings! This will be completed by Q4 2011. Is this a good investment? You make the call. Bangsar's prices surprisingly hold up pretty well, hard to find a killing there. KLCC aim now, accumulate bullets, and in 6 months' time, can start shooting.


Added on April 12, 2009, 10:19 am
QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 11 2009, 08:35 PM)
my exact fear just a year ago  sad.gif
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Pai,

Use some tactics. Remember loans don't show up in CCRIS/banks' database if you have not sign the loan offer letter. icon_idea.gif If maneuvered well, at the end of the day you will get much more than banks allow. (this is how I got the 7 props early on with RM4500 salary blush.gif )


Added on April 12, 2009, 10:20 am
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 11 2009, 09:03 PM)
is that true ? In Penang, I can still get 90%. For uncompleted, I can even get 95%.
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with MRTA? I guess maybe due to freehold and limited land space, and not too much speculation in the past few years. LAunches also I think pick up only last year, unlike KLCC.

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meejawa
post Apr 12 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:30 AM)
90% is with MRTA. 95% is without MRTA.
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ei? shocking.gif terbalik issit?
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post Apr 12 2009, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:35 AM)
No gua.
90% loan . So bank can loan you the money to buy MRTA lor.
95% loan . Bank don't want to loan you money to MRTA coz u take too much loan liao. You need to pay MRTA in cashl\ tongue.gif
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Interesting...
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post Apr 12 2009, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(putraperdana @ Apr 12 2009, 05:08 PM)
350k??? I doubt it will reach 350k for the smallest unit.

i think 850 would be a good entry. Look for Tower A. It comes with car park.
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850? hmmm, try idaman, dua, hampshire. but i do agree at that price you can get decent return as well.


Added on April 12, 2009, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 12 2009, 02:58 PM)
Very good point boss  notworthy.gif

And lemme guess, when you were earning 4.5k p/m, u bought few properties at 1 go and submit to different banks?  tongue.gif
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Bingo mate, even within same bank there're ways to do it. There are some banks (will let you do a little search) where your "other commitments" are not shown in their database, ie they only compare against what you have with them. Don't bet on good rates or features though. I'm sure all these not new to you la. rclxms.gif


Added on April 12, 2009, 6:27 pm
QUOTE(eugene jk @ Apr 12 2009, 03:03 PM)
notworthy.gif  I am almost having the same salary bracket but onli manage to get 2 prop now..  Respect ur maneuvers..

But I can imagine the countless sleepless night that you had those days tongue.gif ..
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That's because you props are mahal ones i guess. The ones I got was all below RM250k, mostly below RM200k. biggrin.gif Students market. Felt good for a while, until I saw the way my props are turned inside out crazy. Since then, no more students market. blush.gif

This post has been edited by meejawa: Apr 12 2009, 06:28 PM

 

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