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Investment Could I buy an RM 150K apartment with just RM 5K, RM 5K of downpayment - Future Plannings

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post Feb 25 2009, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Feb 25 2009, 07:50 PM)
Hello,
I need advice from the seniors for future planning.

My age is 26 this year,
I want to buy an apartment in the future (but not in the near future). As I know, rule of thumb, I need 10% down payment for an apartment.

I.e An apartment - RM 150K = RM 15K downpayment.

But can I put downpayment of RM 5K for an apartment at RM 150K?

Whats your opinion?

Please excuse me if I sound rather ridicule in my ideas.
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How confident r u that you could keep your job in the next 12 month? smile.gif
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post Feb 25 2009, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Feb 25 2009, 09:14 PM)
I think that's a different issue that I will concern for my ownself.
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Its not a separate issue. Whats the point of buying a house now only to loose it 12 months later IF you lost your job and could not afford the installments? shakehead.gif


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post Feb 25 2009, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Feb 25 2009, 09:32 PM)
Well not to worry, I am not gonna buy it this month,this year or even next year.It's a future planning, my friend.
I was putting RM 5K as a minimum base line downpayment. I am also geared to have more for downpayment.
I'm a man, and I must plan for the future to settle down together with my future wife.
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oh, then its a diff story. Then you should do what both phoeni and spartacus advised :

1. Buy a property using as low DP as possible. RM0 DP is possible if you can find the right deal.

2. Have some reserves in the bank, 30k is a starting point. Dont forget u need to pay legal fees, furnitures etc, and also u need some basic cash reserves, just in case.

I didnt have 30k when i bought my 1st property (more like 2k only) but I always had a backup plan to raise 30k, just incase.

Lastly, plan together with future wifey. Just bcoz u r a man doesnt mean u have to bare everything on your own. Leverage...............my fren wink.gif
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post Feb 26 2009, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Feb 26 2009, 09:32 AM)
I'll share a bit on my situation right here wink.gif

I bought my first property at 20 y/o for my family. A 220k terrace house. High DP from my offshore work and low loan pymt monthly. That time got free S&P and legal fees. Bad move at that time sweat.gif coz it was for family stay and a big chunk of money went there.

Bought my 2nd property at 22 y/o. Didn't earn much from rental coz I stayed there as well. So I sold it off and earn some cash. Then struggled to save up some cash and buy a 2nd hand at 80k (I was 24), it's a 3 bedroom apartment. I stayed at the master room and rent out the rest. Both the rooms can cover the installment plus cover the maintenance wink.gif

Basically what I was trying to say is, when you realized you cannot afford to buy a family house.. start getting a place where you can rent out some rooms to cover your monthly installment.

I did a mistake by buying a family house first. It's tough to save money while you're in such a big commitment. But to share or not to share, it's what you've gotta discuss with your future wifey.

Else, combine income?
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I read your story with great notworthy.gif

However, I do not think that you made a mistake by buying the 220k terrace house for your family. Not all of us are "lucky" enough to have rich parents, u r jjust doing your obligation as a good kid to your parents. I have nothing but respect notworthy.gif

Plus, im betting your DS has appreciated now n you can always refinance to free up some equity for future opportunities, no? wink.gif


Added on February 26, 2009, 7:54 pm
QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Feb 26 2009, 08:52 AM)
Nah, envy you guys starting so early. tongue.gif
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u shouldnt.

U should be prowd to see more yuppies today have balls to plan for their future instead of spend, spend, spend mentality tongue.gif


Added on February 26, 2009, 7:59 pm
QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Feb 26 2009, 04:59 PM)
Why not?

In fact the appreciation of properties give better returns than Fixed Deposit and is the second safest investment in terms of Investment  smile.gif
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not all the time. Like any investment, there are good and bad picks. And its never a good idea to "bet" on appreciation.

Go for high yielding properties, lower risk IMO smile.gif

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post Apr 11 2009, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(hacker6280 @ Apr 10 2009, 06:10 PM)
Saw someone mentioning metroview, i did know that the selling price up to as high as 280k now.
when i bought it last time, it cost me 172k only for each unit(i got myself 3 units). instalment about rm700++, rent out now at 1.3k.
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the economics of scale......looks like your networth is already up by at least 240k for this right call notworthy.gif


Added on April 11, 2009, 5:31 pm
QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 10 2009, 10:04 PM)
When I was young (they say young man no scared wan drool.gif  )..I bought 4 properties in a year, and 7 in 2 years. Being naive/greedy/agressive/eager, it was a really steep learning curve, and I don't wish it upon anyone. It was not a totally bad decision though, it's just that there are better ways to have sleepless nights. (Again, being so daring when young, those nights were not that frequent also la)
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wah boss, u must be doing fairly well to be able to afford 7 props when you were young notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(hacker6280 @ Apr 11 2009, 06:49 PM)
I got my first property at instalment more than 1/3 of my salary.
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same here. tongue.gif

ALtho not sure if banks has really tighten their lending policy since then smile.gif

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post Apr 11 2009, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Apr 11 2009, 07:46 PM)
Pai, they did.

I was talking with UOB and found out their lending policy for apartment just went to 80%.
Luckily my banker got me 83% of the SAP price, or 100% of the seller asking price.
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thats bcoz you have more than 1 prop, no? tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2009, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Apr 11 2009, 07:51 PM)
Loan may be cheap but now more stringent.
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my exact fear just a year ago sad.gif



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post Apr 12 2009, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 12 2009, 10:17 AM)
Pai,
Use some tactics. Remember loans don't show up in CCRIS/banks' database if you have not sign the loan offer letter.  icon_idea.gif If maneuvered well, at the end of the day you will get much more than banks allow. (this is how I got the 7 props early on with RM4500 salary  blush.gif )
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Very good point boss notworthy.gif

And lemme guess, when you were earning 4.5k p/m, u bought few properties at 1 go and submit to different banks? tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2009, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(hacker6280 @ Apr 12 2009, 03:20 PM)
Salut, i never think of this. lol
I still have some loan buffer, is marc a good buy now? I only can afford smallest unit...
or should wait till it drop until 700-800psf? cheapest 920psf i saw from iprop.
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IMO, Marc will never be a good buy unless you can get smallest unit for less than 350k. Wont touch anything above that.

BTS is a better alternative IMO smile.gif


Added on April 12, 2009, 3:44 pm
QUOTE(hacker6280 @ Apr 12 2009, 03:20 PM)
Salut, i never think of this. lol
I still have some loan buffer, is marc a good buy now? I only can afford smallest unit...
or should wait till it drop until 700-800psf? cheapest 920psf i saw from iprop.
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IMO, Marc will never be a good buy unless you can get smallest unit for less than 350k. Wont touch anything above that.

BTS is a better alternative IMO smile.gif



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