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post May 31 2009, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 30 2009, 02:02 PM)
Medical Card covers your hospital bill only. There is usually a life time cap based on your premium. I read somewhere that your cap should be 10 times your current annual salary. MedCare covers any event of hospitalization irrespective of cause, NB. Outpatient treatment are usually excluded. Seeing a GP outside are also generally excluded.
A traditional Med Card, your premium is burned in the event you do not use the facilities. Med Card is to indemnify you, not for profiteering.
Assuming you retire at 55 y/o, the only drawback is that your premium will be much much higher compare to when you buy it when you are 25 y/o.
Do not confuse Med card with Critical Illness with PA. They are different tools for different purpose, just like a screwdriver is good for screwing screws, hammer is good for hammering nails and a cutter is good for cutting stuff. Although you will find them all classified as handyman's tool.

To have all round protection, you need all, just like if you are a handyman doing repairing job you need all the necessary tools.

As a general rule of thumb, 10x annual salary for med card, 3-5 xannual salary for CI & PA.

Disclosure: I am not an insurance agent, but I am a user of insurance.

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The best way is meeting up a professional insurance representative to explain to you clearly by reviewing your existing policy.

That or hire a Financial Planner like I did and you can get quotes from so many different company whereas an agent are limited to two Life Insurance company.

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Thank you Xuzen, you are one of the very rare BEST 'user' insurance industry can find here biggrin.gif
idunnolol
post Jun 1 2009, 12:17 PM

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Dear All
I have a bit of problem with my family insurance policy. When i was 13,my family bought me a medical insurance policy for critical illness and death for RM 420 per year. The payout is only 20k. Should i continue or change policy? I feel that 20k is not enough for CI as i work in the medical line and know that the private health care would cost at least 100k for CI
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post Jun 1 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 1 2009, 12:17 PM)
Dear All
I have a bit of problem with my family insurance policy. When i was 13,my family bought me a medical insurance policy for critical illness and death for RM 420 per year. The payout is only 20k. Should i continue or change policy? I feel that 20k is not enough for CI as i work in the medical line and know that the private health care would cost at least 100k for CI
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Is it a Traditional Plan? Have you checked what is the current Sum Assured?
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post Jun 1 2009, 01:16 PM

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it write there the sum insured 20k
Type of coverage Benefit
LPPOO 20k
CTPDB 20k

Any expert to guide me on this?
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post Jun 1 2009, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 1 2009, 01:16 PM)
it write there the sum insured 20k
Type of coverage     Benefit
LPPOO                     20k
CTPDB                    20k

Any expert to guide me on this?
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Engage another insurance agent to do a policy review for you.
Call up the customer service of the insurance company
Or you scan everything and post online here tongue.gif

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post Jun 1 2009, 03:44 PM

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For those who gets company's insurance coverage with certain limit, you may consider looking up any top-up plan that has something calls "deductible" option. What this does is enables your company insurance to pay first, up till its limit, and claim the remaining from this top-up plan. I realised this kind of plan costs much lesser and it fits the purpose for those employed, like me. Any -ve comment about this type of plan?
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jun 1 2009, 03:44 PM)
For those who gets company's insurance coverage with certain limit, you may consider looking up any top-up plan that has something calls "deductible" option.  What this does is enables your company insurance to pay first, up till its limit, and claim the remaining from this top-up plan.   I realised this kind of plan costs much lesser and it fits the purpose for those employed, like me.  Any -ve comment about this type of plan?
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its good in a way its very cheap n wat u say is very true. The most important thing is to lookup for the outpatient cancer n kidney dialysis clause. if these 2 r fine, they u can go ahead with it.


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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 1 2009, 01:16 PM)
it write there the sum insured 20k
Type of coverage     Benefit
LPPOO                     20k
CTPDB                    20k

Any expert to guide me on this?
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It seems to me like a life policy of 20K or C.I 20K or TPD 20K whichever comes 1st. If i'm not mistaken, this is an Aetna policy. I may be wrong though.

This post has been edited by chew_ronnie: Jun 1 2009, 08:31 PM
p3nang
post Jun 1 2009, 09:19 PM

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how come so little?
idunnolol
post Jun 1 2009, 09:35 PM

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how come so little?
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i have no idea, All i know is that i am suckered into such policy by some relative so pardon my bias view on insurance agent
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post Jun 1 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jun 1 2009, 09:35 PM)
i have no idea, All i know is that i am suckered into such policy by some relative  so pardon my bias view on insurance agent
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Since you are working now, just buy a new CI policy. It wont cost too much premium since you are young.
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post Jun 1 2009, 10:57 PM

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i have the idea too, problem is that my mom want me to continue it since she bought it from her cousin,thats why it is so complicated
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post Jun 2 2009, 12:16 AM

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Then you just continue it and buy extra policy that suits your need lo. Since the existing policy so low coverage won't cost much also. Your financial risk is more important to manage.
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post Jun 2 2009, 10:58 AM

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What would you recommend a newly wed to buy, if they are:
- age >25
- no serious medical records
- u-grad
- no children yet
- rent a house
- both are working in government sections - stable but LOW income
- chinese.
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post Jun 2 2009, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(secretsquirrel @ Jun 2 2009, 10:58 AM)
What would you recommend a newly wed to buy, if they are:
- age >25
- no serious medical records
- u-grad
- no children yet
- rent a house
- both are working in government sections - stable but LOW income
- chinese.
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2 Individual ILP that links both names together, eg. if one is diagnosed with 36C.I then both policies shall be waived.

ILP can be structured in a way to include 36C.I, Life/TPD, Med Card and P.A together and the premium starts from RM100/mth (given its low premium for an all in one policy). Most important thing to note in ILP, is Please DO NOT look at the returns as those figures r just projected returns n it won't be high.

And when they have a child/s then they can add their child/s name together hence if the payors are diagnosed with 36C.I, eventually all policies shall be waived from premium. THis is a more complete protection solution.
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post Jun 2 2009, 12:47 PM

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thanks chew but i have got to skipped all those abbrv. u used and r u representing any particular co?
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QUOTE(secretsquirrel @ Jun 2 2009, 12:47 PM)
thanks chew but i have got to skipped all those abbrv. u used and r u representing any particular co?
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My friend,

Sorry for those abbrv:
ILP = Investment Linked Policy
TPD = Total Permanent Disability
36C.I = 36 Critical Illnesses
Payor = Payer that pays for the policy.

I'm from Allianz Insurance.
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post Jun 2 2009, 01:16 PM

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Hello Buddies<

Actually pls do not make your self confused with so many plans. we should at least know what is the expenses for medical fees when we fall sick, accident or died. So let make it very easy, I have been doing insurance for years, lots of ppl r really confused with all these plans, plans, plans. Supposingly, we should have a complete coverage which includes Critical Illnesses, Life, Medical card and Personal Accident. If budg you should have budget problem, I advise to start with Critical Illnesses, Life and medical card.
Dun get too many oponions, it will only confuse you and lengthen your decision making process.
I am great eastern agent, feel free to call me
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post Jun 2 2009, 02:21 PM

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My advice is to find an agent that you can trust. You are entitled to find second opinions but don't be too bothered about the price, cos the products that you buy is worth every penny of it.
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post Jun 2 2009, 06:01 PM

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me just start to take insurance, at first yess i'm really confuse bout the plan, but when i'm read the policy and keep asking at my really good agent and my frend.. now i'm understand how important is insurance

currently i take p.a, life and life+saving (3 plans) and will take medical also.
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post Jun 2 2009, 10:16 PM

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Yes, insurance is important. But yet still got people who think insurance is bullshit. =.=
And for those who want to buy insurance, try to have the PROTECTION 1st before you think about those SAVING insurance.

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