Exactly...!

Open whatever entrance holes, cable & piping ducting holes (from ground to top floor), peeping holes, manholes during BH construction. Both side entrance and open roof entrance must do first. You have OPTIONS rather than no option when your BH is ready.
Getting contractor to do a small job is really headache


This post has been edited by aeiou228: Mar 8 2010, 11:37 AM

One of the inventor is Tan Jee Hong from Kemaman...... eh ? WW also from Kemaman.

Building contractor normally quote in RMxx per square feet depending on the materials and design difficulty you requested. Let's say RM35 per sq ft including building material (bare unit only), then RM35 x 20' x70' x 2 floors.

This is just rough estimate. it all depend on the price quoted by your contractor.

99% Chinese owned was over exaggerated. My guess is, Malays probably owns 20% to 30% of the total BHs in Malaysia and they are catching up and gap.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Apr 5 2010, 11:18 AM

Bro hackwire, I'm not siding the authority but I find the above statement is quite provocative. Instead of making the people in authority agreeing to you, they will be even more anti BH.

I would like to quote Bro Lucas statement above and giving an example below when we lose our rights due to infringement of others rights. Public's rights always carry more weight when authority make decision concerning the public.

Saturday April 10, 2010
Swiftlet farming ban draws flak
By MUGUNTAN VANAR
newsdesk@thestar.com.my

KOTA KINABALU: A state Cabinet’s decision to ban swiftlet farming in major urban areas is drawing flak among entrepreneurs of the lucrative birds’ nest business.

Swiftlet farmers are arguing that health and environmental issues should not be the basis of the ban as tests and studies had shown that those birds were not carriers of diseases.

In fact, Sabah Swiftlet House and Birds’ Nest Industry president George Ng said the large presence of pigeons in popular Gaya Street was dirtier than birds found in organised swiftlet farms.

He said major cities like Ipoh and Johor Baru had not stopped such activities.

Thus, he said, there was no reason for the state to ban the industry in major towns like Sandakan, Tawau and the city here.

Ng wondered why the state decided to place a ban as the industry was still awaiting the federal government’s guidelines on swiftlet farming practices.

The state government announced the ban several days ago. State Resource Development and Information Technology Minister Datuk Dr Yee Moh Chai explained that the decision to ban birds’ nest farming in the three towns was partly because it was a public nuisance.

Meanwhile, Sabah Progressive Party questioned the alleged double standards of Kota Kinabalu City Hall for not acting against two birds’ nest farms in the Gaya Street area despite numerous complaints.

SAPP spokesman David Chong said City Hall had shut down similar farms in the Inanam area but refused to act against these two farms in the central business district here.

“The state Cabinet’s decision to ban swiftlet farming should be adhered to strictly,” he added.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Apr 10 2010, 10:30 AM

As far as I can see, there is no hassle to fly out because there is no hole for the birds to fly into the the nesting room. You use the stair area for roving ?

I'm not sifu but I can only say the birds won't like your BH.

The 8' roving is narrow,
The entrance hole to nesting room placement. ( it only designed to accommodate your convenient but not to the birds)
The stair case obstructing flying path for 1st floor.
1st floor entrance door at the center ? What is the width of your BH ?

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Added on April 19, 2010, 11:17 amAs a rule of thumb, think a min of 4mx4m for a comfortable fly path when you design your BH.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Apr 19 2010, 11:21 AM

30'w should be ok to place entrance at the center if the length can increase to 10'.

To suit your staircase cum roving room cum control room design, use metal zigzag staircase instead of concrete one for space saving and less obstructive to the birds. But where is your control room ?

You can actually extend addition 15' x10' floor in the 1st floor to the roving area so that you have a 15'W x 10'L conceal control room at ground floor and install a metal staircase at the side wall to go up to 2nd floor. Your birds can now fly without obstructions.

10' width roving not to say you can't but very minimum. Is either you want to give the birds more comfortable flying path or you sayang the nesting space. But no point having more nesting space over less birds manage to fly in right ?
An option for you is to widen the top foyer to 20' x 30', so that you can walk inside (on top of 2nd floor) the foyer for external tweeter maintenance work and you get HUGE roving area.
You can increase roving at 2nd floor slightly to 12' and the 1st floor roving at 9'. With that, you have a 3' walk way to enter 2nd floor from 1st floor via a wall-sided staircase.

With 30' width and spacious internal roving area, you can have single nesting room's hole right in the center.
Remember to open a spare open roof hole for future 1gp compliance issue.

Is pretty straight forward....you have more options when you need it.

I'm currently using side entrance but I have open roof entrance ready in case of contingency.
My open roof entrance can be in operational mode within 10 min just by sliding open the entrance cover.

WW, If you read Chinese, better call YB Toh Chin Yaw immediately to clarify this statement.

Sabah ban town BH....follow by Terengganu (potentially going to ).....With these 2 key indicators, new town BH investors better think twice before jumping in.

Ahmad Said said Terengganu state government will instruct town BH to "relocate" out of town to a designated area for swiftlet farming.

I think this is the info hackwire needed.

Enter my 10 months old BH today at 11am and noticed that less birds inside the BH and only occasional baby/young birds sounds can be heard. Compare to last month, there were many birds inside the BH at this hour and baby/young birds sound were very loud and many.
I also noticed that 80% of the nests were empty and the remaining 20% with birds perching on it.
May I ask the sifu here the following questions:
1) Is this situation indicating the end of mating season ?
2) Is it ok to harvest the empty nests now ?
3) Should I leave it as it is and wait for the colony to grow bigger ?

ahwee1987,

I personally feel that the 3' or the 5' distance between your top floor LAL and the partition wall is too narrow. I doubt the birds can fly down the LAL via the clockwise flying path.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: May 5 2010, 11:17 PM