Here's another option to download the draft 1GP.
OOps Sorry, I tried uploading the 1GP directly to Lowyat 3x, how do I retrieve the download URL?
Or I do not hv sufficient access?
Can someone help so more viewers can get the doc, scribd require registration and not very intuitive.

This post has been edited by Cergau: Feb 21 2010, 03:51 AM

Lucas 1, thks for yr advice.

Dunsun! WW,
What abt it?
You 2 are being annointed to lead.
Count me in as the 1st volunteer foot soldier.


btw, anyone here know how to upload to LowYat direct and then retrieve URL for forumers' use?
The same was done with the V1 docs at the beginning of V2.
Do I need to request admin?

Chan K,
Thanks for providing another easier the link, I has the same intention of making easier to download.

I have picked up similar points as you have shared here.
I am in the midst of drawing up an alternative guidelines incase any pleading is successful.
IN the interest of time, the parties may be ameable to adopt my alternative after feedbacl from forumers.
I will try to complete it today. I will provide the basis for each of the my proposals either new, removed or amended from 1GP.
Appreciate yr all feedback including if my drawing of the alternative is wise and not a waste of time.

I have earlier (mths back) mentioned a proposal to request my local MP to raise a private members Bill in Parliament to remove Fuciphagus from Schedule 4 of the WilfLife Act and was advised by the MP that I need to publicise it else it will fail w/o sufficient support from the Parliament floor.

I agree with yr suggestion of the publicity of the draft 1GP to a wider audience and request them to write to both their local MP and to the Cabinet members.

I think we need a 2 prong approach here
1)Publicity to generate interest and critical mass of voices
2)Continue collaboration with the agencies involved with the drawing up of 1GP

Pls pls provide comments.

Any realistic suggestion for immediate action?
May I suggest for now, instead of just venting our anger, lets all comment on the contents of the draft 1GP and decide the next course of action.
Any little help is appreciated.

Dunsun,
I doubt the cabinet can make any sense of this draft in the current state of readiness.
As you have mentioned, there are quite a few contradictions.
If this guideline in the state we now have at hand, gets approved then we know Cabinet fellas just 'bantai' approve only.
It's madness, this whole draft is piecemeal with inputs from diff authors and badly put together w/o rational.

I am struggling to build an alternative & found myself handicapped by not owning a shophse BH to provide insights into their peculiar situation in regards to section 6.

I am GIVING UP to try for a complete alternative but instead a partial comments only.

Yes, there is no outright statement that says shophouse BH is not allowed.
The conditions laid are impossible to comply with so 'SECARA HALUS' shophouse is not allowed or suffer endless harrassment until you give up.

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Added on February 21, 2010, 4:44 pmMy effort thus far, I AM NOT going for an alternative as I find that every other statement require clarification from the author on the basis and justification.


Edible Bird Nest Guidelines
(Draft)

1 Latar Belakang
1.1 – 1.5 – no comments
Addendum
1.6 With the initial observation of the swiftlet’s preference for old shophouses along the coast. Further developments of man made swiftlet habitat for the collection of edible bird nest has been concentrated among coastal shophouses which then spilled over to abandoned shophouses. It was initially viewed positively as a means of utilizing (recycling) these properties for an alternative economic activity. With time foot traffic increases which saw the reopening of these once abandoned shophouses which signaled the start of the resident complaints of smell, noise & fear of avian influenza, be it real or unsubstantiated perception.

2 Objectif

Amendment (just my suggestion, if the agencies can get their Objectif clear, then everything else will fall into place)

2.1)To Facilitate the growth to 100,000 birdhouses producing 500 tonnes of edible bird nest annually worth RM5billion by year 2020.
(source - http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsfeat....php?id=461591)

2.2)To ensure achievement of objective 1 is accompanied by a 85% reduction in public complaints in regards to smell, noise and fear of avian borne diseases by 2012.
(note#2 Each agencies will plan out their annual action points through to 2020 with the SMART methodology. Additional funding if required is clearly stated with justification and how achievement is to be measured. )

2.3)To ensure that the commercialization of Aerodramus Fuciphagus does not impact negatively the vulnerability of the wild cave populations, also in tandem pro active action to wind down cave harvesting with Govt funded bird house for the original harvestors by 2012.

2.4)To intiate and commission research in conjunction with other institutions, industry players and residential associations to either dispel, disprove, overcome or mitigate as the case may be. the issues of smell, noise and fear of disease by 2011. Results of said research to be freely available to the general public.

Each objective may be taken wholly or shared by all concerned enforcement and licensing entities with different weightages as per the expertise and influence of the specific entities. The overall accountability for success of the above objectives lies with the lead entity.
(Note #1 The existing objective is way off the the published objective of the DPM.

3 PERUNDANGAN
– no comments

4 PEMAKAIAN
4.1 Garis panduan ini terpakai untuk spesis Aerodramus fuciphagus ( Edible -
nest Swiftlet ) dan Aerodramus maxima ( Black - nest Swiftlet ) dan
merangkumi seluruh Semenanjung Malaysia . Garis panduan in! adalah•
tertaktuk kepada pindaan dari masa ke masa

(Note#3 Need feedback from readers, I have no idea what this is.)

5 KEPERLUAN LESEN
5.1 Pengusaha yang ingin menjalankan peru'sahaan sarang burung perlu
mendapatkan lesen - lesen daripada agensii kerajaan berikut;

Jenis Lesen AgensiB~rtanggun~awab

(i)Lesen Premis Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan
(ii)Lesen Perniagaan Pihak Be'rkuasa Tempatan
(iii)Lesen Mengambil Sarang Jabatan PERHILITAN
(iv)Lest?n Perniagaan Hidupan Liar Jabatan PERHILITAN
(v)Lesen Import I Eksport H I Liar Jabatan PERHILITAN

(Note#4 There is no trading nor exchange of cash in the premises why the requirement?)


6 KEPERLUAN. I SYARAT PERMOHONAN' LESEN . PIHAK BERKUASA
TEMPATAN.

6.1 Status Tanah ;:
i. Hendaklah dikategorikan sebagai bangunan perniagaan
ii. Bagi bangunan ' free standing I di atas tanah pertanian , syarat nyata tanah ditukar kepada kategori bangunan perniagaan.
(note#5 How does it help in the achievement of the objectives. Further clarification required on basis and justification).

6.2 Jarak Bangunan
i. Mempunyai jarak 150 m daripada mana - mana bangunan kediaman berdekatan.
ii. Hendaklah tidak kurang dari 0.5 km. daripada kawasan perumahan dan bangunan komersial.
(note#6 This is a very damaging catch all requirement. This will render all shophouse BH units not compliant. Further clarification required).



This post has been edited by Cergau: Feb 21 2010, 04:44 PM

ahwee1987,
What I did was to ask the sales chap exactly how I was to wire the speakers to the amplifier.
I made him test each and every tweeter for me though they cost less than RM3 each.
(I am no expert by any measure.) Bought all the material, yes for less than RM150.
Fitted and tested fine all wired up (without soldering).
Found the box, cut out to fit the tweeters, solder the wires to the tweeters permanently.
Screw everything firmly into the box so nothing moves during transportation.
No I do not use the battery off the car, I carry a separate 12V battery in the car for the purpose.
I notice the amplifier gets hot with use, so the draw must be BIG.
I wouldnt want to be stranded in far off places with a flat car battery.
It may be safe to do the testing with the car running but I chose not to.

As for the testing, I would suggest you bring along a GPS so that you can mark out where you were.
For a better sense of the place , you manually or download thru serial cable to Google Earth.
Then you will be able to see the topo, existence of of big water, vegetation and so forth from satellite photos.
If you had also the waypoint (GPS speak) of the nearby successful BHs then you will be able to gauge whcih way the birds fly.

Birdfarm,
My sentiments also.
My guess is the main contents will be in place despite being tidied up.
The draft we are now reading is still w/o the Min of Health feedback which was stated in Dec 2009 in the MOA website.
My guess this draft is at least as old as that MOA statement on their website.
With their tendencies for being territorial, I tend to believe the bulk of the conditions are still in the one presented to the Cabinet.

I dunno know what to summarise to my MP, I think I will try that tomorrow.

Hackwire,
Your suggested approach has been tried already.
It's not cos' swiftlet is a threatened species.
Sufficient evidence already show that its not the case already.
CITES which M'sia is a signatory to, helps regulate the endangered list.
Schedule 1-3 of the WildLife Act reflects the degree of the danger of extinction.
It's not listed as endangered in Malaysian WildLife Act, but it's listed in Schedule 4 which any country has the liberty to add or remove.
So long as it's listed in any schedule Perhilitan (Pen M'sia) and Forestry (Sabah & S'wak) has the authority over these species.
My effort with my local MP was to remove swiftlet from the Schedule 4, but was advised that I need to publicise the effort to get sufficient support from Parliament members. I do not have the resources nor connection to mount any kind of publicity except here in the forum.

Dunsun has spoken to Perhilitan, their reason for still keeping it in Schedule 4 it's cos' it's wild, whcih sounds preposterous to me.
The only valid reason they need to still keep it in the Schedule is cos' the wild cave populations have indeed dwindled, for whcih they have direct control as they control the harvesting. (how else do you think they have a ready process or licensing regime for keeping & harvesting EBN?)
They have then push the fault to the some other uniformed services for allowing overharvesting for undercounter $$$$.

So.... do you wanna go battling with the power-to-be to handle this HOLISTICALLY? I wish you luck.
Have you read the Lizard King?? Our very own world class ANAK MALAYSIA for all the wrong reasons.
Read how the 2nd most powerful person in Perhilitan talks abt him like her own pakcik and goes around protecting him and accuse a foreign country of entrapping him and putting him in jail for a few years. When he was in jail, Perhilitan continue to provide him licenses to him to deal in protected species. NOW you wanna to tangle with folks like this.

All I can tell you is I can only function in this forum after I regain my energy from the anger and disgust I feel with these knowledge.
I feel so helpless sometimes with no where to turn to... the police?... civil case to the courts?
Welcome to my beautiful country.
You know the saying..
THOSE WHO CAN, DO; THOSE WHO CANT, TEACH.... for M'sia you can give it a twist
THOSE WHO CAN, DO; THOSE WHO CAN'T, GOVERN

I know I too have sunk to just venting. (soory lah, else cannot function and will probably have a heart attack if not)

btw , I have sent the draft 1GP to a few blog writers and my MP.
I already see it on WOSG on their front page. (they must have picked it from LowYat or 1 of us, not me)
http://worldofswiftletfarming.blogspot.com/

Please note that the discussion is at the Cabinet level, not Parliament, so sending to MP only serves to notify, MPs cant do anything.

WW,
I wish I have your confidence in any so called 'leader', I see them merely as the head of some association PERIOD.
From the fiasco from end 2009 and some more now of suggestion of their influence with the govt agencies, one can't help but be cynical.
Simply put they have yet to prove themselves worthy of our confidence.

Other than spreading this draft far and wide, I will wait and see if any forumers has anything else to share.
May we hope you will be able to bring good news after finding the horse.

Najib's facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dato-Sri-Naj...zak/27767103249

Najib's blog
http://www.1malaysia.com.my/index.php?lang=en

Greenacres,

Guilty as charged.

btw, I have commented on the Najib's 1Malaysia blog under the tag 'Budget', so I will wait to see if it get's moderator approved.
If so, then I leave to all here to comment further. The comment space is regulated, so I had to sound abrupt but hopefully coherent.
http://www.1malaysia.com.my/index.php?opti...ang=en#comments
He mentioned that he was thrilled to get 600+ comments post the budget presentation.
How desperate are we??? Maybe 1000+ comments??
To be effective it has to be before the Cabinet discussion (which date I do not know) , so do yr bit..let it be like a DDOS attack.

This was to be the full text but I had to edit on the fly and I did not copy the final cut for records and I cant recall (old chap mah!)
Dear Mr PM,
I humbly bring to your attention as a 3 decade tax payer the disappointing results of at least 1 item of the 2010 budget. (As a citizen who has his head at the grinding stone for so many years but has not yet developed friends in the proper places to bring this to your attention and thus through this channel I am aware of.) Your attention is most appreciated now as to nip this in the bud before the repurcussions may just prove to be widespread unhappiness and still yet another distraction from more important matters of state.
It relates to and I quote from your budget speech the following

"ADVANCING AGRICULTURE SECTOR
Fourth: Develop food farming industry such as fruits, vegetables, organic farming, herbs, seaweeds and swiftlet nests with an allocation of RM149 million;"

My writing to your goodself pertains to the swiftlet nest industry.
Various workshops were held by govt agencies with participants from the existing industry players.
Despite their input the draft guidelines to develop the industry has now appear to a whole litany of regulations with emphasis on control and licensing by the different govt agencies.
These appear to be self serving and runs counter to the published objective of...to quote Bernama release
"growth to 100,000 birdhouses producing 500 tonnes of edible bird nest annually worth RM5billion by year 2020"

The 1GP (the said guidelines) has the following as it's objective and I quote.."
2 OBJECTIF
2.1 Untuk memastikan perkembangan industri sarang burung layang - layang di negara ini ·terkawalserta mematuhi perundangan dan peraturan semua agensi kerajaan yang berkaitan dengan industri ini.
2.2 Untuk memastikan aktiviti pengambilan sarang burung layang - layang tidak akan menjejaskan populasi semulajadi burung layang - layang. tersebut.:
2.3 Mengawal dan menyelaras pengambilan sarang burung layang - layang agar ianya dijalankan secara lestari. "

It obviously is off the mark in terms of a national objective.
As for the allocated money to be spent to 'develop' the industry, there is no stated desire nor plan to work out common industrial problems faced either technical, health, specie specfic research, market access...etc.
As it stands now, the sums are to be given out to successful 'applicants' to build swiftlet farms. Nary a person in the industry seem to have a clue of how and when these applications were offered. Also the failure rate for this industry is topping 80%. Also 'swiftlet farming' is a misnomer. This trade is more akin to apiculture. We do not have a glowing record on apiculture to boast of.

As for the guidelines per se, it is too tedious for this channel and also will be sighted soon enough for cabinet discussion this week.

Suffice to say that the guidelines as unclear and incoherent as it stand in the draft, it is estimated 80% of existing 'farms' will be hard pressed to comply and will eventually have to close. Let alone what unclear,subjective and opague guidelines breed for those compliant.

That's RM1billion in foreign exchange and maybe the same amount of capital investment lost by small time investors from their life savings and retirement fund lost to short sighted and misguided guidelines. (no pun intended).

I again seek you indulgence to nip this in the bud and I offer my service and I am sure many of my fellow small time players to help revisit this guideline if you so desire and direct.


This post has been edited by Cergau: Feb 22 2010, 11:55 PM

Agreed, let's do a roll call of contacts made
Am not a member of any assoc as I do not own a BH yet
My touch points were

1)my local MP
2)Leader of a Opposition party
3)3 Blog writers emailed
4)Najib's blog
5)1 BH equipment supplier
6)WW has contacted his local assoc to contact the umbrella assoc (not certain where WW is from?, Pekan?)

For a country with ISA...What rights?
Police have theirs in some other Act, I know Bank Negara officers too.
They need only show you their IDs.

Search without warrant
7. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in section 6 a
Director for Wild Life and National Parks, a Deputy Director for
Wild Life and National Parks or an Assistant Director for Wild
Life and National Parks may without a search warrant stop and
search any vehicle or enter and search any dwelling house, shop,
business premises or other building where—
(a) acting under a warrant of arrest or exercising his powers
to arrest without a warrant of arrest under this Act, he
has reason to suspect that the person to be arrested is
in the vehicle or dwelling house, shop, business premises
or other building;

We can lose credibility and damage our cause if we do not quote facts.
If our foe pokes holes into our case, then we will sound like some bodoh politicians, talk 'AYAM JANTAN'.

To be more exact; in case anyone wish to quote the 'Not Endangered' reason to fight our cause.
Swiftlet specifically Fuciphagus, is not in Schedule 1, 2 or 3 which list Endangered specie.

Fuciphagus is listed in Schedule 4, which according to Perhilitan are for 'wild' Fauna but NOT ENDANGERED.
But anything in Schedule 1-4 comes under their purview.

My initial thought was to break their source of power at this point.
It's a tough one cos' it will go against the now licensed exporters who has the money and influence.
Anyway let's not get on to this for now...it's for another time.
It's important but not urgent.
I can only go into this when there is sufficient support to do the mass publicity effort like happening now.
There's a lot of paperwork to walk this into Parliament, it will be sad, to have it defeated by lack of publicity and MP support.
It's a thankless job.

To quote ChanK
"Stop thinking that we are been govern by the politicians. They are our servant's. Act liked a boss for a start!."

Yes, Democracy works if we wish it to work, not just every 4-5 years. We have to live it and not shy away.
If we do not keep them in check, they become little emperors.

To quote the Lizard King fiasco again....as it's specific to our cause
When asked why a convicted jailbird continue to get licenses to do the very thing that he was jailed for..
"Well, if we do not give him the license, he will do it illegally anyway....such arrogance in the face of the illegality of it all"
In the same line of reasoning ... can we house and harvest swiftlet nest illegally until you grant us the license w/o the hassle.
Let' start exporting too!!! so can get export permit!!!!

We must have a strong civil society to make Civil service (PUBLIC SERVANT), Parliament & Executive in check.
Speak up, comment on forums, blogs, twitter, facebook, write to the papers (if it still exist in 5 yrs).
A lot can be achieved thru these channels. Peaceful demonstrations.
Dun mean to preach...aging does that to you.

"demonstrations"....I can picture Dunsun suddenly perk up with anticipation with a crazy look in his eyes.
Down Dunsun!, Down!!

I grudgingly respect the position of PM of M'sia, not necessarily the person.
Anyway my comments are still not online yet.
Walk the talk-lah! Service Levels not included in his KPI meh?

To talk "AYAM JANTAN" while we bite our nails
Notice the Comments navigation on Najib's blog?
Terbalik dah!
Last = Oldest
First = Latest
Such ingenuity... new meaning to words.
It's in Reverse-Chronological order.
A new word need to be invented to describe this...1Chrony???
I dun know French 'cept the Fxxx word, would be cool to invent a new french word to describe this,
else all the IT people will be confused and we will be time traveling back & forth while staying still.
Very Matrix-like.

Likely scenario.....
1Day 1n 1Hospital....
Maaf tuan/puan...mengikut butir yg sedia berada kat komputer yg berfungsi saat ini, umur tuan/puan skrang -ve 26 tahun.
Oleh krna itu, appointment doktor memasuk kembali otak tercicir di tangguh kat 30hb Feb 1875.

Yang Ikhlas,
Kong, Ket Leh
DIMP,BDP,ICU,PICU,BTN,TIKUS,MC,KUCING,ITU,INI,SANA,SINI
Sijil Penyertaan Melawat Sambil Belajar
Sijil Penertaan Kursus....banyak sekali (URL links provided)
Masters in Ada projeck-kah? (UNITEN,ELEVEN,TWELEVE)
Dll... (also URL links provided)

This post has been edited by Cergau: Feb 23 2010, 01:36 PM

Dunsun,
I am getting uncomfortable as I am beginning to see that I was presumptious to think Cabinet means Najib.
It's beginning to make sense , PBTs comes under a different Ministry at the Federal level.
It's Muhyiddin we shd be going for. Najib is away in S;wak for 2 days starting Mon.

"However, before the guideline could be adopted by the local authorities, it would be brought to the attention of the National Council on Local Government chaired by Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, which is expected to meet March next year."
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...3920&sec=nation


Also, this is a Cabinet level meeting ie Ministers or their designate, nothing to do with ordinary MPs.
We send to MPs to keep them abreast of the facts surrounding the case incase we manage to pull enuff bantahan, it gets into the news.

Sad, WW has reverted that the assoc were all asleep and were asking for info in return.

In addition, I suggest we know start contacting news reporters.
All newspapers have their news portal now. Once it's on the portal, it's in the hardcopy news.
All these can be achieved thru use of the PC alone.

I will volunteer to draft the English version and post here.
From then on, we will need both BM & Chinese translation and forwarding to the Main Stream Newspapers & other alternatives.

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Added on February 23, 2010, 6:44 pmChan K,
Are you at liberty to share some more of the EM / O3 treatment?
I wanna to put them in my release.
I recall it was discussed, EM is some kind of Effective Microorganism commonly us in composting right?
1)Is the use widespread?
2)Is it effective in terms of getting rid of the smell?
3)Are you a user or have viewed it's use and testify to it's effectiveness?

What abt the O3 treatment, it's ozone correct?
I know there are mobile units for pest control in fruit export. How is it used? For guano treatment or nest? If guano, the same 3 Qs above.
Pls respond soonest.
Cheers

This post has been edited by Cergau: Feb 23 2010, 06:45 PM

It's probable that DVS (Vet Services) being the appointed lead agency will table.
Dunsun may have more details.

Need help to dig the actual Wild Life Act for both Sabah And Sarawak.
I just need to quote the full title of both act, not the content.

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Added on February 23, 2010, 7:59 pmGreen acres, or anyone incase he;s away
Can I request u work out the avg 100,000 BH will produce insted of the monkey nos?
Also a reasonable cleaning service industry nos.
cheers

This post has been edited by Cergau: Feb 23 2010, 07:59 PM

ChanK, thks
I intend to give them the whole lot. No holds barred. Wanna shoot, shoot bullets, not rubber bullets.
But then I will post here b4, I know we will not be unanimous, so I will make the final call after comments, agter all I am the author

1GP (GarisPanduan Perusahaan Sarang Burung Layang Layang)
The promised panacea for the ills of the industry.
60,000 farms currently earning RM1.5bil of foreign exchange awaits the sight of this guideline.
It was variously reported that when this much anticipated guidelines is implemented, it will propel the nation ahead of Indonesia and Thailand the current

leading producers of the Edible Bird Nest. Malaysia currently contributes a mere 6% to the world supply.

Enforcement,licensing bureaucracy and disparate requirements of the local councils (PBT) has been cited as the prime impediment to further growth.
These came to a head when mass raids were conducted in Mukah Sarawak, resulting in eggs going bad and deaths of swiftlet fledlings.
Operators then claimed that though hundreds of applications for licenses were filed and was later revealed that of them 2 were approved.
The situation is reported to have calmed down somewhat with approval of more licenses.

Aerodramus Fuciphagus, the swiftlet specie that produces the Edible Bird Nest in this industry is not a protected specie in any of the producing countries.
This is in tandem with CITES (an international agreement between governments to ensure that international trade in specimens of wild animals and plants does

not threaten their survival, of which Malysia is a signatory). A CITES report has attributed the recovery of this specie to the current commercialisation of

it's nest. Nevertheless it remains in Schedule 4 of the Wild Life Protection Act 1972 (Pen M'sia) and xxxxxxxxxxx for Sarawak and Sabah. As such it remain

under the purview of the respective agencies. Operators are now required to apply for annual licences for 1)Housing the birds and 2)Harvesting of the nests.

3)Export permits (good for once) are granted on a picemeal basis with a tax of RM100 per kilogram of birdnest.
Birdnest (which remain a favourite tourist purchase) is reported to continue to be confiscated at departure lounges of local airports due to the export

licence requirement.

This fledging industry is not without controversy. There has been numerous public complaints over the loud chirping emanating from the farms or birdhouses as operators prefer to call them. Some too claim that they offer sanctuary to the birds and as such bird sanctuaries be more apt a name. It is understood that 3 different chirps are in use. The first with speakers facing out and up at the entrances. Second at at intermediate area (or roving area in the trade speak). The final being at the building internals. It is the first chirp that brings misery to the public. Local councils have now mandated that this first sound are allowed to be used only between the hours of 7AM to 7PM. The Veterinary Services has also offered courses to incalcate good husbandry practices through the GAHP syllabus. Another public complaint is the smell of the guano from within the birdhouses. And current regulation calls for regular cleanup and proper disposal of the same. Being the ever innovative enterpreneur new technoloy (such as Effective Organism -a green composting method is now cathcing on amongst the operators)is being adapted for use and proven effective in terms of neutralising the ammonia whcih is the main contributor to the unpleasant smell. Post application of EM produces guano ready to use as fertiliser. Another is ozone which is now only undergoing trial runs in a small number of birdhouses.

Majority of operators started self funded in mostly abandoned shophouses for economic reasons and the then believe (or trade secret) and layman observations of swiftlets preference for their chosen habitat. Due to the high starup cost (RM400-RM750K), most operators had either pooled family resources and their life savings. It is estimated by operators that the industry now economically support close to half a million of their family dependents.

The government has come to the reaslise it's potential and has allocated a large sum of money in the 2010 national budget to develop the industry .

"ADVANCING AGRICULTURE SECTOR
Fourth: Develop food farming industry such as fruits, vegetables, organic farming, herbs, seaweeds and swiftlet nests with an allocation of RM149

million;" (source: 2010 Budget speech)

It is apparent why the current operators view the the availability of the guidelines with such anxiety and emotions.
They have faced heart wrenching raids and then delighted with promises of assistance.

Prior to the completion of this article and as the date draws nearer to the Cabinet approval of the guidelines (from various press releases), some facets of the guidelines become available to the operators. These were viewed with disbelief as the overall theme tended to be more bureaucracy and further licensing and a host additional conditions that are impossible to comply with.
Impossible conditions, contradictions and incoherent statements in the draft guidelines are now what the operators are viewing from all the months of hoping.

Next I will quote some examples of the guidelines.
I will break for dinner now,
tembak away,
Please check my numbers.
thks