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post Feb 26 2009, 08:39 PM

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Risky indeed. When you get into the boat, the boat sinks.

However, when you miss the boat, the boat keeps afloat higher and higher. sad.gif
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post Feb 26 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 26 2009, 08:39 PM)
Risky indeed. When you get into the boat, the boat sinks.

However, when you miss the boat, the boat keeps afloat higher and higher.  sad.gif
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Quite true! rclxms.gif
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post Feb 26 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 26 2009, 03:15 PM)
just as the interest rates are nearing 0%, now is 2%,
am wondering are you guys thinking of taking out your fixed deposit to buy shares?
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Definitely no at this moment, at least not this year. Most company's earning will take a beating this year, even the best company will suffer. better earn less than loss more. smile.gif

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post Feb 26 2009, 10:50 PM

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Oops..... http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...2045&sec=nation

Related counters gonna give back their gains? hmm.gif

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post Feb 26 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 26 2009, 10:50 PM)
Oops..... http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...2045&sec=nation

Related counters gonna give back their gains?  hmm.gif
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Not sure why work minister never ask our PM before the announcement of toll hike! I will defenitely go against the toll hike as our government should help us in this economy situation.

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post Feb 26 2009, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 26 2009, 10:54 PM)
Not sure why work minister never ask our PM before the announcement of toll hike! I will defenitely go against the toll hike as our government should help us in this economy situation.
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Hear.. hear.. nod.gif


Europe green and so far US also green. Hopefully our market also green tomorrow. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 26 2009, 11:01 PM)
Hear.. hear..  nod.gif
Europe green and so far US also green. Hopefully our market also green tomorrow.  smile.gif
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Ya, hope Malaysia also green tomorrow. I hope KNM will go up too. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 26 2009, 11:12 PM)
Ya, hope Malaysia also green tomorrow. I hope KNM will go up too. biggrin.gif
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You bought KNM recently? KNM dropped 1 cents today.
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post Feb 26 2009, 11:15 PM

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Panamy has released its lastest Q report, accumulated 3Q of EPS is 68 cents. March 31 will be its final 4th quarter, by then some dividend can be expected. brows.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 26 2009, 11:15 PM)
Panamy has released its lastest Q report, accumulated 3Q of EPS is 68 cents. March 31 will be its final 4th quarter, by then some dividend can be expected.  brows.gif
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so far how much had been given as div? drool.gif
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post Feb 26 2009, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 26 2009, 10:50 PM)
Oops..... http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...2045&sec=nation

Related counters gonna give back their gains?  hmm.gif
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[Kuala Lumpur has 3.5 million vehicles for a population of about five million people.

"Tokyo only has 1.3 million vehicles for a populationf 20 million,” Mohd Zin said, concluding that more effort was needed to improve public transport. ]

But KL dun have enuf public transport doh.gif , i would choose public transport if it's convenient, no need to find car park.


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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 26 2009, 11:15 PM)
You bought KNM recently? KNM dropped 1 cents today.
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Ya lor! I bought at 0.41! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 26 2009, 11:15 PM)
Panamy has released its lastest Q report, accumulated 3Q of EPS is 68 cents. March 31 will be its final 4th quarter, by then some dividend can be expected.  brows.gif
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how nice... wish I had followed your footsteps when you first bought tongue.gif


Added on February 26, 2009, 11:49 pm
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 26 2009, 05:07 PM)
today bought Bstead.

mainly in property + plantation
quater report should be out within these few days. a good DY counter, as well. biggrin.gif
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this counter sounds like another good pick!
Their financial results just released, better than last year..... dividends should be good. tongue.gif

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post Feb 27 2009, 06:53 AM

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Sorry guys.. Dow gave back 88 pts today.. drop 1.22% (red).
Financials stocks are up.. but health care stocks took beating.
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:33 AM

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Crude oil rally: $45.22 + 6.40%

Will CPO ride on the wave hmm.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 26 2009, 04:19 PM)
Dividend alone surely cannot cover your capital loss if market head south. But if you are not needing those money, while the stock is fundamental sound, and ability to withstand recession impact (surely profit will drop, but at lesser degree compared to market average), then it is high chance long term future, you will be gaining.

Just like you bought a stock or a reit at 1.20, dividend yield 10%. but it sink to 1.00, but your 1.20 is getting 10% yield so treat it as FD lor.
Even dividend drops to 5% (expected all dividend will be lowered which mostly can't run away with it), you are still earning more than FD rate. When one day, market recover and the price goes back up to 1.20. Even at breakeven point, you are already gain more than your FD.

That's major advantage of having dividend stock.

Btw, I don't know Uchitec. What's the company doing then.
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Feb 26 2009, 10:21 PM)
Definitely no at this moment, at least not this year.  Most company's earning will take a beating this year, even the best company will suffer.  better earn less than loss more.  smile.gif
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whether it's time to dig out the fixed deposits for shares:
2 sides of an opinion, interesting as a food for thought hmm.gif

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post Feb 27 2009, 09:06 AM

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Absolutely no, FD is for emergency use 储备金 and is 棺材本for aunty/uncle, not a wise move


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post Feb 27 2009, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 27 2009, 10:06 AM)
Absolutely no, FD is for emergency use 储备金 and is 棺材本for aunty/uncle, not a wise move
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i agree, 储备金 and 棺材本 should not use for gambling. If u lost it, ur life may lost all together. think twice. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 27 2009, 07:33 AM)
Crude oil rally: $45.22  + 6.40%

Will CPO ride on the wave  hmm.gif
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my 2 cents worth...

I think the crude oil factor especially in terms of flactuations are insignificant facvtor now, generally the Plantation Sector is more worried about supply and demand rather than an increasing Crude Oil price. Most biodiesel plants r prolly on the verge of closing down, ever since palm oil price hovering around Rm 2K and below.

My forecast is the price will gradually depreciate from 1800 +/- to about 1600 +/- by late Jun/July 09, being the end of the El Nina/Lila whatever its called effect over the Asia Pac region causing a dop in production. Remember there was a supply glut around Dec 08.

July 09 to Dec 09 contracts for FCPO, is going to be really tough time for plantation.Nov & Dec 09 FCPO contracts being the most severely affected.

News
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...54&sec=business

I've liquidated most of my plantation stoks waiting for the year end, currently picking up on stocks like TM resorts hopeful of a turn around for 4 Q 09...

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 27 2009, 07:51 AM)
whether it's time to dig out the fixed deposits for shares:
2 sides of an opinion, interesting as a food for thought hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 27 2009, 09:17 AM)
i agree, 储备金 and 棺材本 should not use for gambling. If u lost it, ur life may lost all together. think twice.  smile.gif
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It is only applicable to excess FD one has.

Never use some saving that is essential and needed for stock market because stock market you can't control the timing of liquidation because even though the good share you bought will go up in the long term future, but if you cannot wait for it, then it is not good at all.

No one knows how long the recession will be. It can be 1 year, can be 3 years even 5 years before any recovery in economy start to taking place.

But one thing for sure, economy won't be doom forever, economy boom and burst is always cyclical.

Don't over optimistic about stock market to recover quickly, but also don't overly pessimistic as overly pessimistic will only mean one is going to miss in taking advantage of the burst cycle.

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