well, this is my thread so I can say whatever I want...

hahahahaha. sorry for upsetting u proton/perodua fan boys... I'll say it again


Proton/Perodua ARE SHIT ASS TIN CAN SHIT FCkK CARS...period...


so in conclusion proton should just closed shop because it has no way of competing in the real world...

obviously Top gear agree judging from the review...they even blew up a shit hole perodua kelisa...

ok, I know a lot of you proton/perodua fags gonna get offended and frankly I don't give a flying fckk cause come 2morror you're still be driving that shit...so go ahead blast me all you want cause shit car are shit and nothing you say gonna change this fact...

Bashers/supporters, can't you turn neutral? Please leave coz your comments are contagious ... no one benefits from it and you're only creating conflicts with everyone else.

I agree Proton is improving, but what we hope for is a better pace of improvement ... for example:

Toyota = 50 points, improve 2 points per year
Proton = 30 points, improve 1 point per year

That way, we'll never catch up.

where the f*** is the mod?

6 pages of this crap?

do ur f*cking job!

my saga is still running. but then again its from japan

aih it will continue to lik this is becos proton is always managed by shitty people who arent qualify to get there.

they are put there becos of "ahem.ahem." factors. factors that dont allow more qualified ppl to get into this industry.
thats is what this country's problem is all about what, its managed by ppl that arent qualified. and those ppl got there because of "pertolongan from u know who and what lah"

and the ppl who are qualified have no help or chance to get there. in any company organization or even school and so on...the head of organization must be a REAL LEADER.

That is what happens when opportunity isnt given to others lah becos they say their ppl not enough maju yet. Have to reach certain level of maju-ness only they will give opportunities to others...

If continue that kind of mentality dont even think of maju. dont even think of vision 2020. its mimpi 2020. Proton is managed by a bunch of idiots la basically. if a company has better management sure u can see the difference.

i mean... u take a look at MAS and AirAsia lah... MAS was here for how long and AA here for how long? how come AA is now better then MAS? because the one leading the company is a genius la ofcos ; )

not only that, compare telekom to maxis... compare streamyx to ???. why i put ??? cos there is no one really to compare, no competitor. why is there no competitor? aha.

if nissan skyline r34 price same with BLM, i'll go for imported car.

AirAsia is not managed by Tony fernandez alone..

look at his collegue, lotsa of ehem2...

what say u ?

why there is no competitor ? u guys should guess the answer pretty right.

and i personally doesn't think that TS has committed serious offense in criticizing our local "warriors" ... just not so constructive
i had never driven a posh or lambo ... so i dont know the diff it makes.


as for TG ... of coz it's not a normal-boring-lame car's show
IT'S FOR THE SAKE OF FUN !!!

mod.. do ur job.. close this thread.. it's getting ridiculous

WTF they blew Kelisa jsust like that, better sponsor me.. Fags

wtf are you saying... I did not insult anyone here... I'm just saying proton/perodua are crap and a lot of ppl probally agree... I also know a lot of proton/perodua fanboys disagree, so if you like proton/perodua and hate this thread, why not you go to proton/perodua fanboys club and talk shit there... I didn't talk shit there so stop talking shit here...

This thread is dedicated to maximum proton/perodua bashfest!!! you don't like it go somewhere else...

This post has been edited by -҉-: Feb 15 2009, 11:07 PM

Yes, but they work as a good team with his leadership. They strive to provide what the consumer wants. They know exactly what the people down there need and they make Profit which in return can be use to improve their service. They are the Really Qualified people to lead their company lah thats what i'm saying. they build good relationship worldwide, they get the air-routes that previously they couldnt get. etc etc.

if only lowyat.net is monitored by those ppl. then they would know what we feel. but too bad it isnt. so ya. gonaa zip my mouth and stay out of this. no point to say anymore. not gona get anywher. ; )

This post has been edited by andrew9292: Feb 15 2009, 11:07 PM

Whether it's your thread or not, you can still get warned coz this forum doesn't belong to you. This thread is pointless now, byebye

noobness.

closing shop is not a solution.

that kelisa video must be your most favourite video. i hope that video will make you go orgasm.
just watch it everyday and it will make you happy everyday.i guess it appear on the top of your bookmark list.

This post has been edited by xshiro: Feb 15 2009, 11:20 PM

there no such thing as basher wtflololhaxomgorganismhate2lololmax!! thread in lowyat.net

if u want to spam, go somewhere else..

we talk about car in this section, not thrash talk like 12 years old ( eg: you )

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Added on February 15, 2009, 11:46 pmI think he like to mastubate to that kelisa video

This post has been edited by Invader Zim: Feb 15 2009, 11:46 PM

a newbie...i think the TS like shit very much...that's why he/she said it many times

or the TS dont have money to buy imported cars, so he blame coz he's driving a shit also

This post has been edited by albirri: Feb 16 2009, 12:12 AM

This deserves to be in Kopitiam at best. Okay leave the tg\hread on if it's for your "freedom of speech" crap. F&F is for people seeking for help and constructive opinions on anything automotive, not saying this car crap, close shop, yatta yatta yatta.

I hate Chinese cars very much. You say Proton is tin Milo? Chinese cars are made out of aluminium packaging FOILS it seems. Not only that, they copy designs without shame. I've hung out in F&F for over a year and I've never openly expressed my disgust over Chinese cars coz I know, it's a waste of time and LYN's resource.

I thought this was one of those "it's a joke, chill!" kinda thread but I was wrong. Either close this or move it.

This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Feb 16 2009, 12:21 AM

I'm proud of Proton that can make cars that can actually compete on same playing level with foreign cars. I am not proud of a baby-fed, mommy's boy of a carmaker that survives just because big daddy is protecting it from its competitors.

The only reason why people say, wow premium priced foreign vehicles like City or Vios, etc etc, is because the goverment is the one that made it premium priced. Without protectionism, prices of those 'expensive, for rich, or well to do people' kinda car actuall will cost like any other Proton mid range or high end vehicle. Proton cars seem 'affordable' just because the gov jacked up all other foreign cars.

So yeah, if you guys want to be proud of Proton, and want to support it, the take off the protection, let the price of foreign vehicles drop to the same price as current Protons, and tell me that you would continue to buy Proton. I'll only be proud of it if they can be like a man, and take on the other carmakers head to head. Make a car that is worthy of respect (price/performance), they they shall get that respct.

some how proton and produa are real junk!

flame me if you want to.

My friends Pedarna, broke down in the middle of a highway because of transmission problem. why cant they fix this problem in the 1st place before selling this car. And some common problem, such as power windows, door handle , poor trims, Rubbish stereo system , broken speedometer, loose bumper... and lots more .

what i have to say is , rubish is rubish.

If you look at this, you might vomit.

http://media.paultan.org/pricelist.pdf

Download, watch and read it. I want a BMW 325i Sport with only RM110k!.

It's not just about Proton and Perodua quality, even the local assembled Toyota, Honda and Mercedes-Benz have problem. Have you heard of a local assembled E-Class, new car somemore, encounter with dashboard rattling noise. It's all about Malaysia quality problem, and also...our uneven roads.

This post has been edited by oec88: Feb 16 2009, 05:23 AM