What bombing? You mean the endless scenes of Eames arming and planting explosives? Nothing to enlighten, they're just boring!

OK the detonation acts as a kick to bring them back to level 2.

why cant ellen page just crush over all the obstacles

Too many weird incidents in the dream would alert the subconscious projections & this will put a risk on the inception success rate.

I think supposingly, since she's the architect, she could only build the design of the dream. But that's pretty much it. That's how I understand the role so far.

Its like a real architect and a contractor.

Isn't a kick suppose to happen in the preceding level? i.e Happen in level 2 to bring level 3 back to level 2? We saw that in the beginning when Nash pushed Cobb into the tub to bring him back from the first scene, instead of bringing him back to reality in the plane.

Another logic flaw is the time calculation have to be super duper precise ...

in level 3 the snow fortress explode ... then they wake up in level 2 the hotel lift drop and explode ... then they wake up in level 1 inside the van drown in river ... then they have climb out else they will drown in the river and forever stuck in Limbo. Then they have to wait the sedate to wear off and wake up from level 1.

Come to think of it ... I dun fukken know how to calculate the time until tat precise in different level ... some more all levels got different time calculation one ...

by using music from level 1 to indicate they need to perform the kick on their respective level else gonna drown and die...

it is more like u calculate and determine urself when to perform the kick i guess... of course, it's still movie, so it's able to execute in a perfect manner...

i like your comparison, pretty much spot on

i think the editing for this movie is lock for an oscar, the way they handle the multiple layer of dream during the last act is just fantastic, unless there is some really extraordinary awesome editing in movies that coming out in the next few month, Lee Smiths looks good to win.

Another way I remember you guys discussing is that while the dreamer can also be the architect, the problem would be that you would get confused into what is real and what is not.

But i don't get the concept of why the dreamer has to be someone else, and not just fischer.

I think this is like the movie of the year or something

yea, unless the dreamer minimize the usage from his memory...

well if Fischer is the dreamer, then his subconscious will know the layout of the environment, but Cobb's team don't, so they will be in extreme danger when being pursued by the subconscious

agree on this.
the dreamer will normally create the dream based on their memories. in that case, if fischer is the dreamer, together with his sub-conscious security that Cobb's team aren't aware of, that's really dangerous and might kill them and caused all of them into limbo.

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Added on July 20, 2010, 7:20 pmusing music to let them (those inside the inception world) to know that the person is going to perform the Kick.
Yusuf the Alchemist create the potion in a way that the music will still get through their ears into their mind.
It's like an indicator. Whenever they able to hear the music, that means in 10 seconds time Yusuf is going to drive the van into the sea.
10 seconds in that level, means roughly 3 minutes in the zero-gravity level, means roughly 30 minutes in snow fortress level.
Well, maybe they have a super watches to keep track.

This post has been edited by keeseng12: Jul 20 2010, 07:20 PM

The detonation was to bring Cobb and Ariadne back from Fischer's limbo most probably. It didn't really matter since Ariadne and Fishcer killed themselves to get out of there. I'm actually beginning to feel sick thinking about the plot.

The dreamer wont know the layout of the level unless he or she is taught by the architect.

nope....remember when Cobb first bring Ariadne into the dream(they sat in a cafe), that's Cobb's layout,
dreamer:Cobb
mark: Ariadne

then when Ariadne did the folding city stunt, she replicate the same city Cobb showed her earlier on
dreamer: Ariadne
mark: Cobb

Those who have played tops before would know how it stops/angle of it and the sound when its nearing its last spin, for me, he managed to get back with saito, always remember saito spendt many years in limbo, i doubt he cant find his way back, this feeling brings me back to shutter island haha, keep the discussion on you guys

That's because after the cafe blew up Cobb taught Ariadne the layout so she could replicate the city and experience her work first hand for the first time. And Cobb was still the dreamer, which explains why his projections were so hostile towards Ariadne.

This post has been edited by QuickFire: Jul 20 2010, 08:40 PM

yea, you're right....never thought of it that way....

Inception= Easily the best movies
I've ever watched, I feel sorry for those people that said the movie sucks, thats because the movie is too smart for you

totally agree with u

I think ironman or transformer like of movie more suitable for them