Someone else posted that already

aiya such a slowpoke i am , sorry didnt have the time to check all 36 pages haha

But at least all 36 pages have been a positive discussion - none of the negative vibe

A few ppl try to show negativity. Sadly too many positive until negative got no place here.

Yes, they did mention that to him before putting him to sleep in layer 3. However, once he passed out, Cobb mentioned that they're gonna go into Fischer's. Once inside, he shouted to Eames "Hey Eames, this is your dream so bla bla bla". Can someone who's gonna watch it the again check this out?

i the dreamer have a urge to take a dump, i think there will be a massive sand storm

Won't that translate as a mud slide?

second that. they tried but seems positive owns them lolx.. that picture was nicely done though.

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You have some points there. I dont think the idea of having trained mechanisms against extraction/inception is bad, I think it's great and very cool, what I do think was less than good was how they ran with that idea. The defense mechanism could have manifested itself in so many other different ways, it could have brought a visual touch to it, but Nolan decided to keep his generic faceless henchmen as his Bond fix. He has this fixation that everything has to be brought as close to reality as possible, even in dreams. It worked wonders in his other movies, especially The Dark Knight, where the superhero movie was brought perfectly down to a crime thriller level, never before seen. But here, the possibilities are endless! As I said the first hour of the film was marvelous, but the execution of some of the ideas after that was rather ho-hum. Let's just hope Inception has given him his own Bond kick and he doesn't actually go on and do an actual Bond movie.

Yes! I thought I heard them saying it was going to be Fischer's dream. They tricked him into believing they would be breaking into Browning's dream, and Arthur even said "We're going to use him to break into his own subconscious", or something to that effect. But later on in the dream itself, it seemed it was actually Eames' dream. Another confusing part.

Actually I dont anyone has come up with a wholly coherent and consistent story of Cobb and Mal. I *think* I remember him saying they were exploring deeper levels of the dream world, which would make my theory sound. They spent 50 years in the last level of the dream they dared venture in, Mal lost it there and lapsed into a limbo state of mind, Cobb kept count of the number of layers they were in, killed themselves and kept going one level up, but Mal, having been infected by Cobb's idea, would always think she would need to go one more level higher to reach reality.

Now, though, I think that theory is bust. Because I believe the dreamer of a particular level cannot venture deeper into the dream. Nash was the dreamer in the carpet level, and he wasn't in the level below that. Yusof was the dreamer for the level 1, and he didn't go in with the team into level 2. Arthur was the dreamer in level 2, and he wasn't in level 3. At the start, we see that if a dreamer leaves his dream level, the dream collapses. I believe if the dreamer isn't an active entity on his level, the dream will collapse. This would make sense if eames was the dreamer for level 3, but if as above Fischer was actually the dreamer, then the world should have collapsed when he went into limbo. Or something. I'm still not really sure how this dream world all works.

By the way, if you were to give a kick in level 1 to someone who was currently dreaming in level 3, would that wake him up to level 1?

indeed the best movie i've ever watched this year. perhaps for my entire life so far.
Christopher Nolan never fail to give me a goosebump at the ending of the movie.
First was Memento, then with Dark Knight and this movie is like the-mystery-of-Memento combined with explosion-from-Dark-Knight.

Here's my interpretation of the movie. I could be wrong.

Let's take the picture above as the start. The picture is saying that there's 5 level - as depicted in the picture.
My understanding on this movie is that there's 6 levels.
Level 1 in the picture is actually Level 2.
Level 2 in the picture is actually Level 3 and so on.
The very Level 1 is actually Cobb's dream.
Whether there is a machine called 'Inception', that's really up to us to think as this whole movie is actually Cobb's dream.
In case this is not a strong statement, think of the movie 'Identity' where throughout the whole story, there's just only 1 person, in this movie - it's Cobb.

What i'm going to say onwards is more towards my own imagination and thoughts of this movie.
His wife and kids had been dead for quite a long time. He couldn't accept the death of his family and most importantly, he can't accept the fact that his wife has been dead.
Therefore, it tooks so many layers deep inside his mind to forget about Mal. With him really able to let go Mal, then only he's able to see his kids' faces. Well, the kids might/might not exist. Let's say they exists. He will only be able to 'face' their kids when he fully let go of his wife's death.

As i mentioned earlier, the entire thing was Cobb's dream. What i'm saying next might be insane.
Mr Saito is the projection of his realself in the real reality.
Cobb is an old man that is waiting for his death in a lonely way.
In Real Reality, Cobb is an old man. Back to the previous theory I've mentioned, due to he's unable to accept the fact of his family's death, he choose to dream. Dream to be young again and find those memories back again. In denial, you can say. At last when he's managed to let go, he's able to 'gain happiness' with his kids.
Well, whether Cobb using Inception machine, or merely just sleep with sedative and dream, we'll never know.


And I don't hope for sequel or prequel of this, Masterpiece should be just 1.

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so according to that picture there are 5 dreams?

this is what i thought, the first dream belongs to fischer. that is y they were being attack by the train after they had kidnap fischer. cobb and arthur were arguing after saito was hit by the bullet in the warehouse. 2nd dream wher they were in the hotel was dream by fischer too, they made him go against his sub conscious. 3rd dream was dream by arthur, snow valley. 4th dream was by cobb, in his own world. then cobb and saito engage in limbo because cobb wanted to save saito.

this is what i thought

yea if Nolan did not limit the mark's projection only to human beings populating the dream world, then we will have loads of possibilities...

my understanding is that there's 6. it could be more.
but from the picture, i add in another level on top of all.
Cobb's dream.

so ur saying that the whole movie was cobb's dream?

this is how i interpret the movie. Nolan's take for this movie is for the viewer to believe which is reality and which is dream.

For me, i believe all this is Cobb's dream. See my previous post for full explanation. Just few posts above this.

it is a possibility, the professor tell cobb he need to come back to reality, maybe it is just a dream.

Or maybe this could be a dream where the team (Browning and etc.) was trying to incept into Cobb, trying to free him off from guilt of Mal's death.

Well, how many layers of dream above all those we saw in the movie, we'll never know.

Our current reality right now could be a dream as well.

Nice interpretation. But I'll stick to it being reality, the whole thing being a dream isn't my cup of tea.