About the limbo:

this movie is suppose to make no sense.

i guess so far the conclusion is

if u die in any layer of the dream you go limbo << confirm

since saito and cobb meet in limbo, but saito died earlier in lv 3, while cobb drown later in lv1, Cobb went into limbo later << confirm

Cobb and Saito met in limbo

so limbo become a shared place???

lulzlulz

cues Radiohead's In Limbo

Just came back from watching it and it was indeed a great film but not so much for the hype it's been getting. Feels like TDK all over again, except with lesser flaws and more mindfcuk. Still digesting the movie as I'm typing and reading pages after pages of comments is not helping either. This feels like a typical Nolan movie with a face paced and unemotional ride. I like how he conjured this whole idea and executed it deftly. That being said, it's still nowhere near a masterpiece personally and definitely not his best.

i guess so.

cobb and his wife use death ( train ) to escape limbo

I'd like to believe that too. That's how Saito and Cobb escaped in the last layer I guess.

Another reason why


This post has been edited by Makakeke: Jul 17 2010, 02:40 AM

one interpretion that ppl make is that when the wife jump off the building, she went to reality and cobb stayed in dream land.

i think thats wrong, cause if that is so, why does his totem fall lol.

that would defeat the whole purpose of the movie, or would it?

some of them say the totem is the inception to him by his wife

Just got back from cinema pretty interesting movie i can say.



This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Jul 17 2010, 02:47 AM

SPOILERS

Another area I don't really get is when Cobb and Ariadne went into the 4th layer to find Mal and Fischer. If they're both dead, aren't they supposed to be in limbo? And if they're in limbo, how is it possible for Cobb and Ariadne to find them? Anyone care to explain this to me? Plus the location is the world where Cobb and Mal created isn't it, how did Mal and Fischer ended up there? They're only a projection of Cobb?

This post has been edited by Makakeke: Jul 17 2010, 10:54 AM

Heh that's what I've been wondering- how Fischer's limbo has everything Cobb built in HIS limbo. It could be because they're all connected anyway, from the device on the airplane, but I like the idea that everyone, even inside deep layers of dreams, can have their own individual dreams. But anyway, I think they got into Fischer's limbo by connecting the device to his dead body in the snowy mountains lair and entering into his limbo from there. From my understanding, if you die in a dream heavily sedated, you go into limbo and you will NOT realize it isn't reality down there, so it wont cross you mind to shoot yourself so you can get back up there, as you would already think this is reality. But if you connect the device to someone who has gone into limbo, and go into his limbo, you're well aware it's not reality. That's how Cobb and Adriandne saved Fischer.

It also explains why Cobb looked so confused when he met old Saito. Both of them were in their own limbo and accepted what was in front them as reality. Somehow something (in my opinion, the Cobb's totem, but I'm not sure) reminded Saito that he isn't living in reality, and by reminding Cobb about the promise to allow him to return to the states, Cobb is reminded that he has children waiting for him and this cant be reality as well. They both get out of limbo (dont know how, by killing themselves I suppose) and wake up on the plane.

I need to watch it again, because I think my interpretation is flimsy. And I dont even wanan go into the whole the-end-is-a-dream debate before I get all the details right.

Yea, I definitely need to watch it all again to notice how it all actually works.

I'm pretty sure in the last scene the totem is one that reminded Saito about the truth and when they both started to remember the promise, they finally realized that they're in limbo and death would save them. If we accept that Cobb and Saito did died in layer 1 and layer 3 respectively, then Saito would have travelled to another limbo and Cobb is stuck in the ending limbo.

This post has been edited by Makakeke: Jul 17 2010, 11:35 AM

This post has been edited by dlct87: Jul 17 2010, 11:38 AM

If one dies in limbo, does he wake up in the preceding dream world or reality? My memory is real fuzzy on this, but Cobb killed Fishcer in Fischer's limbo right? And that made him wake up on the icy mountains dream level, in which he then confronted his father. So dying in limbo should only wake you up one level up, right?

i think its the preceding dream level, it was not specifically mentioned in the movie

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This post has been edited by dlct87: Jul 17 2010, 11:58 AM

OK, so in the end, when both Saito and Cobb decide to leave limbo, they end up, respectively, at the snow mountains lair (now in rubbles) and the van underwater. At this point, if they killed themselves again, what makes them so sure they wouldn't end up in limbo again? How dies it work out? Was the sedation running out? I dont think the movie really explains how to get out of limbo.

How did the other members get out of the dream? By the Kick, right? So a Kick would definitely... kick you out of a dream, while death... will put you in limbo. Am I getting this right? What happens if you give a Kick to someone who is in limbo? Does that wake them up? I suppose not, or the other members would have just done it on the plane to revive Cobb and Saito.

One answer leads to more questions.

i think both of them were connected in the van (they aren't in the snow mountains), so they will wake up in the plane IF they got out the limbo

depends on the strength of the sedatives being used, if its conventional one, then getting killed in the dream is strong enough to boot you out of the dream and awake, but if the sedatives are too strong (Yusuf's), then getting killed won't wake you, instead you will go into limbo (Yusuf did mentioned his sedatives suppress all senses except the inner ear sense--balance),so they need the big movement of body to upset the sense of balance to wake up