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post Jul 16 2010, 08:36 PM

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There is one interpretation where Mal was the one right all along. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 16 2010, 08:36 PM)
There is one interpretation where Mal was the one right all along. biggrin.gif
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My mind is still boggling lol. What would she be right about Kobe ? As in she was still alive and was the one dreaming about all that took place in the film ? That would be too f***ed up lol.
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Back from 2nd-viewing. tongue.gif Much better this time since brain-puzzling is out of the way, I can concentrate more on character development and music score from Hans Zimmer. This time more emotionally attached towards the characters. And definitely love the music score. biggrin.gif

And the ending;

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QUOTE(ksp_tech @ Jul 16 2010, 08:46 PM)
any link to watch online?
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QUOTE(Ninja @ Jul 16 2010, 09:34 PM)
Back from 2nd-viewing. tongue.gif Much better this time since brain-puzzling is out of the way, I can concentrate more on character development and music score from Hans Zimmer. This time more emotionally attached towards the characters. And definitely love the music score. biggrin.gif

And the ending;

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That ending is definitely plausible. Or Saito didn't even need to
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 16 2010, 09:35 PM)
I just want to tell you up front that I reported you.

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That ending is definitely plausible. Or Saito didn't even need to
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When Cobb isn't looking, WE ACTUALLY SEE IT'S IN PERFECT BALANCE indefinitely. I personally feel that he's accepted that the
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will be where he's happiest.

I just wanted to add, for the people arguing that the kids didn't age much as a point as to why the end
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I think sedatives are used in every instance of extraction, only the dosage varies. You wont get kicked out by death when a high dosage of sedatives is involved. You go into limbo.

Also, I dont think showing them as old people was only a visual effect. If memory serves me right Cobb did say there was a shock when they found themselves looking young again.

Anyway, I'm getting more confused the more I think of it. Near the end, when Saito dies and goes into limbo, Cobb and Adriadne connects the device to him and goes into his limbo, right (tell me if I'm wrong, can't remember well)? How come Saito's limbo is filled with the remnants of Cobb's city he built when he was stuck in his and Mal's own limbo?

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 16 2010, 10:27 PM)
I think sedatives are used in every instance of extraction, only the dosage varies. You wont get kicked out by death when a high dosage of sedatives is involved. You go into limbo.

Also, I dont think showing them as old people was only a visual effect. If memory serves me right Cobb did say there was a shock when they found themselves looking young again.

Anyway, I'm getting more confused the more I think of it. Near the end, when Saito dies and goes into limbo, Cobb and Adriadne connects the device to him and goes into his limbo, right (tell me if I'm wrong, can't remember well)? How come Saito's limbo is filled with the remnants of Cobb's city he built when he was stuck in his and Mal's own limbo?

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i don't think so...sedatives are only for the "dream within dream" heist because it gets exponentially unstable when you go deeper

i think limbo is filled with remnants of a person's memory, so it explained why it has Cobb's city, and at the same time Saito's own palace

who is telling the story where the young Cobb and Mal was lying on the railroad? was is Mal who told the story?
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jul 16 2010, 10:35 PM)

who is telling the story where the young Cobb and Mal was lying on the railroad? was is Mal who told the story?
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QUOTE(Ninja @ Jul 16 2010, 10:49 PM)
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jz watched it...
to me best movie of 2010...

and to me about the ending


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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jul 16 2010, 11:20 PM)
jz watched it...
to me best movie of 2010...

and to me about the ending


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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jul 16 2010, 10:35 PM)
i don't think so...sedatives are only for the "dream within dream" heist because it gets exponentially unstable when you go deeper

I'm pretty sure there's sedatives regardless. That's how they slip onto sleep that easily. This is a minor detail anyway, not really worth discussing.

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Yeah, that crossed my mind. But I would like to know for sure, how all of this works. Things like this isn't supposed to be ambiguous. Things like this really bugged the hell out of my head during the movie. And it's all this thinking that makes the film so cold, as we don't have a chance to invest emotionally. I know there's an emotional centre to it, but trying to feel the emotions in this film is like trying to think how much you love your girlfriend while you're writing a math exam with really hard questions. laugh.gif Hopefully once I've seen this 3 or 4 times, and all the little details have been dealt with and I can disregard the very dense plot, the emotions will surface and I will actually have the chance to ponder about its themes.


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Well, I would say cobb has Failed his mission. Correct mr if I'm wrong

1. Cobb was drowned, at the first level of dreamland.
2. Cobb 's daughter, was age of 11. Ending kids doesn't look like 11 hrs old. So, that's the limbo/dream that cob ever wanted for.
3. Saito and Cobb shouldn't meet up, coz saito was never connected to the level 4 dreamland of fisher.
4. Saito's dead at the 2nd level.. Means it will takes longer time to wake up to his first level, more to his real life inside the airplane.

But .......my question :
Only cob and saito woke up when the flight is about to reach LA. Means others has woke up, but both of them took more than hours in reality, few years back inside the final limbo to actually wake up?

Why saito look far older than Cobb? He's dead in 3 level of dream, how could Cobb from level 4 found him?

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 17 2010, 12:04 AM)
I'm pretty sure there's sedatives regardless. That's how they slip onto sleep that easily. This is a minor detail anyway, not really worth discussing.
Yeah, that crossed my mind. But I would like to know for sure, how all of this works. Things like this isn't supposed to be ambiguous. Things like this really bugged the hell out of my head during the movie. And it's all this thinking that makes the film so cold, as we don't have a chance to invest emotionally. I know there's an emotional centre to it, but trying to feel the emotions in this film is like trying to think how much you love your girlfriend while you're writing a math exam with really hard questions. laugh.gif Hopefully once I've seen this 3 or 4 times, and all the little details have been dealt with and I can disregard the very dense plot, the emotions will surface and I will actually have the chance to ponder about its themes.
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there was an emotional core, although i did not feel it that much either(due to the overwhelming concept of dreaming)....

yea, limbo was not very well explained (or just me who didn't pay enough attention tongue.gif )....
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QUOTE(tykenny @ Jul 17 2010, 12:11 AM)
Well, I would say cobb has Failed his mission. Correct mr if I'm wrong

1. Cobb was drowned, at the first level of dreamland.
2. Cobb 's daughter, was age of 11. Ending kids doesn't look like 11 hrs old. So, that's the limbo/dream that cob ever wanted for.
3. Saito and Cobb shouldn't meet up, coz saito was never connected to the level 4 dreamland of fisher.
4. Saito's dead at the 2nd level.. Means it will takes longer time to wake up to his first level, more to his real life inside the airplane.

But .......my question :
Only cob and saito woke up when the flight is about to reach LA. Means others has woke up, but both of them took more than hours in reality, few years back inside the final limbo to actually wake up?

Why saito look far older than Cobb? He's dead in 3 level of dream, how could Cobb from level 4 found him?
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Perhaps the limbo state is... shared? It doesn't make sense to me, they could share dreams because they were connected to the same device, but there wasn't an device that, uhm... connected Saito's and Cobb's deaths. Hopefully the answer is in there somewhere.

QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jul 17 2010, 12:22 AM)
there was an emotional core, although i did not feel it that much either(due to the overwhelming concept of dreaming)....

yea, limbo was not very well explained (or just me who didn't pay enough attention tongue.gif )....
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That's how Nolan was able to convince the studio to grant him $200 million- he promised to make it so dense with details that people would simply have no choice but to watch it two, three, four times to fully comprehend it!

Anyway, dying in your dream doesn't wake you up. There was once when I died in my dream, and then I simply floated around watching everyone else, exactly like what happens when you die in online shooters liek Counter Strike and the free cam kicks in. That was a nice dream. I no-clipped everywhere. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 17 2010, 12:31 AM)
Perhaps the limbo state is... shared? It doesn't make sense to me, they could share dreams because they were connected to the same device, but there wasn't an device that, uhm... connected Saito's and Cobb's deaths. Hopefully the answer is in there somewhere.
That's how Nolan was able to convince the studio to grant him $200 million- he promised to make it so dense with details that people would simply have no choice but to watch it two, three, four times to fully comprehend it!

Anyway, dying in your dream doesn't wake you up. There was once when I died in my dream, and then I simply floated around watching everyone else, exactly like what happens when you die in online shooters liek Counter Strike and the free cam kicks in. That was a nice dream. I no-clipped everywhere. laugh.gif
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Hmm, if that's how it is, I dont like it. They weren't connected to a device from the preceding level. I prefer the idea that even in a shared dream, each individual dreamer still has the power to be in his/her own higher-level dream.

But then again, the device in any of the levels in the dreams were... not real anyway, simply a fabrication. So perhaps it does make sense, but if they could share higher-level dreams without employing a shared device (like how all of their limbos were shared, even though they weren't connected by any imaginary device from the third dream level, the snow mountains), why bother fabricating the device in the first place?

I;m not sure if I'm making any sense. Sleepy already lol.

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