call me ard tis # 0122791507.
We do go lendu once on sunday morning.
But for now we concentrate on finding trail for our night jamboree. It'll be fun cycling at night. Jus have to b on lookout for wild boar n snakes though.
come ride with us tomorrow for a newbie session

hmm...heard that you guys are finding trails around alor gajah earlier...still haven't found yet??i loved to but i have no bikes and i've work to do..will try my best to get my bike as soon as possible and ride with you guys...been itching for rides since february till now still no bike for me to do so..haha...

Nothing wrong with Deore ler... best bang for buck for cranks (M542 version), FD and shifters. RD I think SLX a bit more worth it for slightly more money.

Here it goes again... by order of importance for me at least:

Frame > Fork > Wheelset > Dan lain lain.

not sure bout tis. only noe tat we will look for trails around 3 district, Alor gajah, melaka and jasin for our night jamboree

You mean those China imitations? Hm.. are they any good? Do most of them crafted on 7001 Aluminium or less standard?

haha. for me will be wheel set > cranks > rd > shifter > frame > fork.

Yeah.. could agree with that as well in most part. Wheelset feels the most difference, Fork as well... heaven and earth difference. Frame is for comfy comfy fast fast and besides.. it's a biatch to rebuilt everything. Shifter and RD is just so so...I don't feel any substantial difference between deore and XT...at least not the price diff. Crank I don't feel anything from FSA Dyna --> Deore --> SLX

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Added on March 18, 2009, 1:24 amThis word I learn from this thread wan.... " Replica" frame:P

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Mar 18 2009, 01:24 AM

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding. Wonder if those replica frames any standard? Had a friend with a replica GT Avalanche 2.0 and didn't suspect it was 'ahem' xD

Wonder if replica DH frames would break easily..

.. and I wonder if there are REPLICA SHIMANO SAINT?


This post has been edited by latias93: Mar 18 2009, 01:33 AM

i was previously using a replica GT Avalanche and it managed to survive me a couple of months before being sold and replaced with the chucker, which cracked after 6 months which was again replaced by my sputnik lol...

and only immitation products i know of are frames, CK headsets, non-moving parts like seatposts, stem, bars and saddles...

immitations of more complicated stuff like RD, shifters and stuff are unheard of...

Your Sputnik memang camo paint or you custom made?

LOL I was hoping ada jual Shimano Saint/Yumeya replica xD all those black/gold bling on mah bike!

Let's put it this way.. I'm in the manufacturing industry with production in China. Nothing bike related of course but I suppose its more or less the same regardless.

Real 7075 and 6061 alloys are expensive... the mega big manufacturers have mega big volume so naturally they're get things cheaper.

Mega big manufacturers don't do unauthorized "branding" aka replicas... so if there's a chance that it can't be the real deal...something else could be in the alloy mix. Just guess work here.

There's this interesting experience with plastic parts whereby the supplier added something else into the mix to cut down cost by a few cents ( a few cents x a few million unit is a lot of money)... a small undetectable percentage but at the end, after 6 months... higher than usual failure rates (not every piece fails but a abnormally high percentage). Not every unit will break of course.

I can't speak for the malaysian market but I would rather go for a cheap unbranded/local brand frame than a replica. At least there's somebody behind the product. Piracy is morally incorrect so... ya never know the story behind it.... you know lar all those stories about fake salt lar, fake rice, fake egg...

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Added on March 18, 2009, 2:22 amUse NS style gold spray paint lo...lagi jimat

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Mar 18 2009, 02:25 AM

replica frame is ok. As so far heard of none...

but imitation frame is a no no...
lots of imitation one i heard of get broken easily even on a normal XC course.

i meant for me Wheelset = Mavic SLR, crank from FSA carbon, Shifters would be Sram X-9, RD = Sram X-0 Carbon, FD = XTR.
Tat would be good for me in near future.
i've tried riding with this and it's light and easier to pedal when goin uphill course compare to my recent bike setup.

BTW i am XC rider.

SLX rd is best bang for the buck for choice of replacement rather than a xtr...

sebelum beli... pasti kan ori...
pasti puas hati... hhehehehe

but how to know its original or not...

i dunno.... some say material... some say geometry....some say price...

ive been drugged. my face is turning red now.

Hm.. yea.. stick to original.. LOL good idea but no thanks.. scared later botched paintjob >.<

I sense a weight weenie in the making. Hehehehee....

Last night while I was partially drunk... I've been thinking about the mistress (commuter bike No.2) with budget in mind that I recently gatal about.

Frame: Voodoo Bokor or Bizango preffered painted puke green
Fork : SASO carbon fork painted puke green
Wheelset: Mavic Crossride with stickers removed
Tires: Maxxis Overdrive 26x1.75 + Stan's tubeless goo
Crank: Any roadie 36T crankarm
Shifter: SRAM X0 twist .... darn cheap these days.
RD: SRAM X9 and tape the SRAM logo.
Saddle: WTB Rocket V

bro...da frame is an imitation frame..
sum1 in BBS confirm it with me..
bt even so,it is still a gud bargain...

yeap...AC of Dirtworks...

Pictures of Ober's red face demanded now!

another pricy mistress to maintain...