He deserves a chance, no? Last season was his 1st season in premier league.How many player can play well in BPL in their 1st season? Torres was an exceptional case because there are a lot of Spaniards helping him out.Voronin, on the other hand, doesnt have anyone from his own country to help him out.

I rate him quite highly back then.He got physical presence like Heskey and his workrate was quite remarkable last season. I still remember seeing him running from the front to the back and made a sliding tackle at our own penalty box to prevent the opponent from crossing.Sometimes, I really think that he is yet another Emile Heskey.

He might not have the pace of Babel, finishing of Torres but he has arguably the strongest left leg compared to Kuyt and Torres.Last season, there was a goal of him was scoring out of penalty box using his left leg.Like Heskey, he was not much worth marking for the opponents' defenders which might do wonders if defenders keep marking Torres.He can easily find out space and scores.

Some of you were mentioning about Babel, Ngog, Nemeth and Pacheco? Which one of them are EPL Proven?No doubt all of them have quality to become quality players in future but with us trailing behind manu in such a tight title race, I wouldnt want us risking it by putting in some inexperienced youth players like Nemeth and Pacheco. I rather start with someone experienced like Voronin.
If because of inconsistent that we refuse to use Voronin, we might as well sell Babel, Benayoun, Mascherano , Dossena, Ngog away.This season, Babel was so inconsistent.Besides his winning goal against manu, I cant remember anything else he contributed to the team.Too much of selfish display and I really start hating him to be honest.Benayoun is another player that inconsistent.Before his good performances recently, he was having quite a number of bad games.And I swear I remember some of you here were scolding him back then.So, what happen now? He is easily one of the best player on field for the last couple of games.Like most of us here mentioned, Mascherano did not play good football like last season.So, should we sell him out as well?But from what I know, he admitted he was not on his best,came back and played decent football recently.

Why is that Voronin inconsistent and we cant give him a chance?How is he going to be consistent with Rafa keep rotating him?Plus, It was his 1st season.How many of good players nowadays shine in their 1st season?Ronaldo took few seasons before becoming what he is today.Deco is suffering now.And Flamini too took 4 season before becoming a good player.No doubt Voronin doesnt have that much time to prove himself but he deserves a second chance.Back to the summer friendlies, he was our top scorer with 3 goals.I m not saying that he will DEFINITELY come good but with us lack of strikers , why not calling him back? If he cant do it, sell him in the summer.The likes of Ngog and Babel just wont work and score and I rather hav Voronin back.At least he can work out some spaces for Torres and going back to defend like he did.
Just my 2cents

Man Utd could go 5 points clear if we fail to beat Man City.. plus they have a game in hand ,which is pretty worrying..

I'm hoping for a perfect result on 22nd and Utd to lose at Fulham and Rovers, or  a draw both games..until the day we meet them at Old Tra(pp)ord!

seriously! lol...

well, woke up today and read the news that scolari got sacked after merely 7 months into his job as chelsea manager.

perhaps it's a good thing for the rival clubs, without a manager right when we're about to begin the UCL knock-out stage, and with the team on the slide down the table.

it's still the most shocking thing, seeing aston villa steadily climb up the table to third place now, and dangerously close too in terms of points gathered. maybe gareth barry's failed transfer in the summer was a blessing in disguise (for himself, obviously).

would definitely like to see aston villa playing UCL football next season and see how do they fare. with the crop of english players in their squad, it's a very well-assembled team chasing right behind our back.

Before we played Chelsea, a friend of mine has said to me, "Let's just lose to Chelsea and help them chase the mancs". Before anyone starts questioning his allegiance, this is someone who has been a fan for 30 years, chose to study law in Liverpool of all places just to be close to the team, has been to Anfield numerous times to watch games including standing at the Kop, and opened his own Liverpool pub in Pee Jay. It made sense to me as I personally would like to see anyone win the league rather than the mancs. I'm not sure how many can relate to this because I've come across posters to hate Chelsea more but if you consider how long we can been at war with the red half of Manchester, there is only one real foe especially when they are just 1 league championship away from equalling our record.

The rivalry between Liverpool and Man Utd runs long and deep, some say back to the days when both ports were competing for economic superiority. The thought of them winning anything at all sickens me, it really does. Some may say that the first salvo was fired by Fergie when he proclaimed he would knock us off our f-king perch but up until now all we've managed to do is to prove him right. Leading the league for a first time in a long time gave most of up some hope that we would finally shove those words down his throat but it would seem that status quo has resumed. Many mancs claim that our fans are arrogant and conceited but it wasn't our manager that first fired a salvo deep into our hearts. I am loinging for payback but it would seem that we are ill equipped to do so at the moment which is why the thought of Chelsea or Villa stringing together a sequence of victories doesn't exactly strike terror in me. However with Chelsea in indifferent form and Villa's ability to go the mile in doubt, it would seem that we are in need of divine intervention indeed.

babel i can understand..but ngog???...he's only here not even a year and u already dismiss him...even rafa talk highly bout him in pompey game..i think he derserve another chance...and mind u he's only 19..plenty of time to develop

No doubt all of them have quality to become quality players in future

i understand the rivalry between the two clubs, and although i dislike man utd fans (not the team, really, just the fans), i think i'm not really an anti-man utd supporter like many others. if man utd play well and win, i'd have no problems congratulating them.

Hahaha we're on the same boat! Man U have been playing some breathtaking football over the years, and as a fan of the game you can help but admire what they've managed to accomplish both on and off the field.

That bad meh for Scolari? How come so fast got sacked....while wenger job is still very safe....i wonder when will the board lose patient on wenger...and of course i do not hope that day will come cause wenger is the best IMO....only the players got to be blamed.....

Wrong thread?   

i am not in denial that man utd will have to lose it for us to have chances of putting in a fair fight for the title this season. whille i'd prefer to see teams like chelsea, arsenal or even everton win the league rather than utd (provided that we're out of the running), i would love it even more if we're the one who's going to knock them off the top.

i understand the rivalry between the two clubs, and although i dislike man utd fans (not the team, really, just the fans), i think i'm not really an anti-man utd supporter like many others. if man utd play well and win, i'd have no problems congratulating them.

The weird thing is that I've on more than a couple of occasions, been neutral on their thread but have been accused of being 'fake', albeit by some and not all of their posters. I find it laughable that some have so much resentment in them that it's inconceivable a rival fan can have an unbiased opinion. In the end, I'd like to think that most human beings are logical thinkers and can at times, remove emotion from the equation when making decisions or sharing opinions. It has to be known that if I make a pro-Liverpool comment, it's not always because I'm blowing our own horn and vice versa. It may genuinely just be my opinion.

i've encountered certain types of football fans (i don't have to mention specifically who) who is a lot happier watching rival clubs do bad rather than watching their 'supported club' win. baffles me.

not my problem though.

Some of you were mentioning about Babel, Ngog, Nemeth and Pacheco? Which one of them are EPL Proven?No doubt all of them have quality to become quality players in future but with us trailing behind manu in such a tight title race, I wouldnt want us risking it by putting in some inexperienced youth players like Nemeth and Pacheco. I rather start with someone experienced like Keane.

If because of inconsistent that we refuse to use Keane, we might as well sell Babel, Benayoun, Mascherano , Dossena, Ngog away.This season, Babel was so inconsistent.Besides his winning goal against manu, I cant remember anything else he contributed to the team.Too much of selfish display and I really start hating him to be honest.Benayoun is another player that inconsistent.Before his good performances recently, he was having quite a number of bad games.And I swear I remember some of you here were scolding him back then.So, what happen now? He is easily one of the best player on field for the last couple of games.Like most of us here mentioned, Mascherano did not play good football like last season.So, should we sell him out as well?But from what I know, he admitted he was not on his best,came back and played decent football recently.

Why is that Keane inconsistent and we cant give him a chance?How is he going to be consistent with Rafa keep rotating him?Plus, It was his 1st season.How many of good players nowadays shine in their 1st season?Ronaldo took few seasons before becoming what he is today.Deco is suffering now.And Flamini too took 4 season before becoming a good player.No doubt Keane doesnt have that much time to prove himself but he deserves a second chance.... (some parts deleted)

The likes of Ngog and Babel just wont work and score and I rather hav Keane back.At least he can work out some spaces for Torres and going back to defend like he did.
Just my 2cents