a pc optimised in software n hardware for home theater use.

haha! azbro, looks like time to rid those dvdrips and convert the collection to MKV..

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Added on February 15, 2009, 9:38 pmbut you were asking for many features (including a Disc player!!) .. doubt WDTV will fulfill every of your requirement..

This post has been edited by ar188: Feb 15 2009, 09:38 PM

yeah...

but as far as I'm concern, as the writer wrote below.. only this matters to me.

"This would be an easy story to tell if it was simply a matter of the better tech winning. But it’s not. Plasma still beats LCD on almost every measure of picture quality."

dun't think that the reason.. cos there is 4:3 Plasma also and 1920x1080P 16:9 plasma.. so if 1024x768 is because of that then we won't have all these other resolutions as well right?

I used to laugh when hitachi claims their alis is 1080. Keke.

plasma got round pixel wan ar?

hence why I laughed when it say 1080p..

if it's ALIS means it;'s not 1080p already.. ALIS means alternate lighting surfaces or some mumbo jumbo terms like that..

if sit quite far back like 10feet or so, astro on plasma looks quite good..

but then even LCD (like those mid range sharp A85 - was testing my fren's 42incher dat day..) looks very decent on astro at that distance..

while audio quality can be super subjective..

but video is probably more objective (unless you are blind)hehe.. that's why, for example, people who review projectors can actually say to a certain fact that the HC7000 mitsubishi is amongst the sharpest LCD/DLPsingle chipper projector in the market compared to sharp or AE3000 etc..
same goes with a 9gen pioneer elite Plasma next to a sony XBR LCD or a A950 LCD 3way shootout.. the winner can be quite certain depending on which category.. color, deep blacks/ deinterlace artifacts, grayscale tracking etc.. to the point you can take a photo and pinpoint where it doesn't look good..

if that is the case, so one can't tell if projector A is sharper than projector B ?

or if this BD recording has more grain than normal films?

or if a pioneer plasma does have deeper blacks than a CCFL backlight LCD?

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Added on February 19, 2009, 11:52 pmsome can't tell apart between a proper MP3 and a CD recording (so thats' subjective)

I dunno about you, but I can always tell between a Blu-ray (with HD content) and a DVD showing on a HDTV

This post has been edited by ar188: Feb 19 2009, 11:52 PM

because the price is cheaper.. you think if the pioneer kuro 428 is same price as PV80, which would people here choose?? I definitely know which I would choose.
please dun use audio "golden ears" comparison on the HD video world.. they are 2 different things.. no need golden eyes to see the difference..

well I believe no need to be expert to see there is difference between a kuro plasma and a normal LCD TV..

of coz anyone can believe what they want.. nothing to be gained for me, if you think I'm right or wrong, cheers...

wah got such tactics wan ar?

anyway, LCD TV, they always show bright scene demos wan.. if show Darkcity movie as demo, sure gone case.. haha!

the key point as you mention, is that "yes you can more or less easily tell the difference." hence being "Objective" about it..

things like Mpeg Macroblocking, color false conturing due to low 6bit panels vs 8bit panels, standard dev 480i DVD video vs 1080p Bluray can easily be pointed out to a casual viewer to show them the differences between these artifacts, infact you can capture them on camera to show at this point of the movie, that TV "A" and TV "B" got such difference, hence Objectivity.
that's the key point here which I was trying to say.. whether you like 200hz motionflow or turn it off is another story.. unless you tell me video artifacts like macroblocking is what you think is a good video, then I can't argue with you.

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Added on February 20, 2009, 11:06 amthank gosh at least got some people agrees.. doesn't take a Videophile Guru or anything to see the difference between Red color and pink color, black and grey right? like comparing the black bezel of a LCD TV with the LCD screen when displaying so called black signal (usually at the 2.35:1 widescreen black bars) but is actually greyish black cos it's not the same black gradient as it's surrouding plastic bezel..

This post has been edited by ar188: Feb 20 2009, 11:06 AM

true, some things like these are subjective, bezel looks nicer, but what has that got to do with video quality??..

as for whether this panel is good or not, also depends on your ambient lighting, surrounding size, windows causing reflection on glossy screen, etc..

of coz not every thing is 100% objective or subjective, but one could say video is "more" objective hence why you can calibrate the screen DIY style with DVD test disc or BD test disc or go with ISF pro level.. if it's so subjective why even got such thing as calibration? and why use reference 6500K reference?

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Added on February 20, 2009, 11:26 amerm..correction on my side then, I mean NON LED LOCAL DIMMING RM10k LCDs..


This post has been edited by ar188: Feb 20 2009, 11:26 AM

I would consider it as a main selling point for me to consider, cos 70-80% of the time the TV just sitting there turned off in the living room/bedroom, .. so bezel is important from the aesthetics aspect for me. but of cos the panel has to be comparable to the price as well.. cannot be because of bezel design, we have to pay much more for it..

buy buy buy!!!

spec is different also, one is 1024x768 and the other is 1366x768

if the 50 incher PV80 is like 4k then dem good!

2k for OEM 42 1080p is very good deal.. is this like that MBF LCD thingy?