me cant afford...

empire, motionflow is frame interpolation (creation of a "intra" frame) .. (doesn't repeat same frame that would be same frame insertion)

Anybody wants 46w400a?

saw it in action (the "Z" 200hz one anyway) last weekend at a sony store , watched on a few BD titles..
movies shot on film with 24fps looks "fake" in a non-film kind of way, when this feature is turned on.. like it's shot on HD digital video cams for TV series (or low end movies)..
Ok, it looks surreal like real life (some will like it, so can't really speak for others whether its better or not)
but I believe it would look good on video sources other than film but nothing to demo it on dat day.

and since most of my BD material is 1080p24 film based (except for Crank and those Nat Geo/planet earth/BBC stuff) then I can see myself turning off this feature more often than not.

Nobody says the Z can compete with the X. Get off your fcuking horse. The X remains, and still is, the Signature series of the Bravia lineup. It is just that I was sold on the concept of Motionflow 200Hz, that I brought myself to get the Z. If you want to be anal and start comparing numbers then, your Motionflow PRO is only 100Hz, compared to the Z's 200Hz. But then again, if an RM8,499 HDTV can demolish your X, then you'd be in serious problem and starts checking if your purchase is wise, would'nt it? Put your X next to my Pioneer Kuro 9th Gen. PRO-151FD and see who "cannot lawan" who.

The whole objective of this thread is lost when it comes to folks like you. This is never about who has the bigger e-penis, it is always about Sony's Motionflow and how it effects even non-SD materials. But hey, your's longer right?
Which SenQ? I whisper a prayer of thanks every time I see HDTVs being portrayed as they are supposed to, with connection to the right sources, and displayed for its strengths. Some showroom just simply want to push TVs without thinking of properly setting them up to allow potential buyers to objectively judge them without bias. All they do is pump up the setting to "Vivid" and hope the buyers gets blinded by the colorful colors and blinded into buying them as well. I for one am not asking them to even go towards proper calibrations for their TVs, it is after all, their job to sell TVs, but at the very least, display them at their proper strength and not overblown them with colors so red, you can see it bleed out of the screen, or so bright, I got "blinded by their supposed awesomeness" , to quote Po, the Kung Fu Panda.

Buying a TV is of personal experience, some buyers prefer certain characteristics only offered by certain TV types, plasma or LCDs, and later OLED and Lasers. I've seen Sony's OLED screens and the Mitsubishi's LASER HDTVs in showrooms in Osaka and Tokyo, and each and every one of these types offers their own strengths and weaknesses. It is up to the buyer to go for their pros and live with their cons. Even within a particular TV type, there are comparable differences between them. Samsung LCDs tend to display a more blue bias than others, while Toshibas and Sharp colors are warmer in comparison. Sure you can calibrate these out, but it all comes to the personal preference and choice of the buyer itself.

Sorry. Its BEST, One U new wing, top floor. hahaha.. always make mistake cos their shop concept looks the same

Haha, the dreaded sitcom effect.

Directors play around with their film cameras to give better effects of motion and movement, and also to portray the gravity of a situation, like maxing the frames, forward cranks, variable speed cranking and so on. Frame interpolation is generally not intelligent enough to see where the director is using an effect to better portray a scene, blame unintelligent math lol. I used the Dark Knight as an example because it's quite evident in the Imax scenes.

Which reminds me.....i always wanted a specialized video processor that could read off a movie profile to tailor the processing for max enjoyment. Sad it applies only to games for now.

stringfellow, whats next....Dvico?

So to sum up, this Z display sucks?

Will somebody get Professor Emmett Brown back to his cage before he fries anyone with his 1.21 Jigawatt brainstorming ideas?

Watching Astro, particularly EPL matches does not benefit fully from the Motionflow technology., thanks to the abysmal quality of the Astro transmission. Instead of a blurry mess that of a player running up the field, all Motionflow can do is clean up the mess and soften it up, so you'd get a nice, clean mess. The clarity wasn't there to begin with, so no matter how much the TV tries, it still cant compensate for the abomination that is Astro transmissions.

Wait, why are you selling this off? Clouding? IMO, if you already have this and not plagued by the clouding defect as described by Welwitchia, you should stick to it. Times are tough these days and I myself am having a hard time selling off the 40X200. That one may end up as a kitchen TV.

I was thinking of getting Z after that. or a KURO. I'm using this as PC monitor, gaming and ofcourse BD

what is KURO, pls PM

anyway how do u connect ur console to LCD? or BD to ur LCD?

use any specific cable? HDMI->DVI?

Like most of the full-HD screens we've seen in the past year, the KLV-46Z4500 is particularly comfortable with 1080p content — it hearts teh Blu-ray discs! We found plenty of good detail and contrast on the troublesomely grainy and dark MI:3, and also found that the TV's 24p mode worked perfectly. Almost zero judder with MotionFlow off, and none at all with it on.

You see, despite our initial cynicism about the new MotionFlow technology, it actually works quite well. At its highest setting motion can be a little too smooth — almost dizzyingly so — with the haloing artefacts we're used to. However, after testing Standard mode on many different types of content — free-to-air TV, DVD and Blu-ray — we found that it was good enough to leave on all the time. This is the most natural motion technology we've yet seen. But that said, we wouldn't buy it just for this. We believe it's up to the television stations and movie studios alike to combat judder — your TV shouldn't have to do it.

The tuner's off-air performance was impressive with bold, colourful images. Initially we found some problems with smearing, but after disabling the set's noise reduction we found that the had problem stopped.

When viewing the television off-axis, we found it performed quite well, with minimal discolouration, although it's not up to the standard as the Panasonic Viera TX-37LZD800A. There are still some rainbow polarising effects on dark scenes and a slight loss of contrast when viewed from the side.

DVD performance was very good, though we have seen better. Colours were natural, black levels high, and detail good, though there was some minor noise discolouration in King Kong in the clouds and the river in a climactic scene.

Performing our suite of synthetic HQV tests we found a familiar pattern among full-HD TVs — 1080p content passed with flying colours, while standard-def picture processing fell down when testing for jaggies.

While the speakers may look better than the ones on the XBR45, they're unfortunately not as good. The XBR's have an extra bass woofer, leaving the Zed with a muddier, less hefty sound. But when compared to other sets they're as good as you can expect from any Sony TV. We were particularly taken with the SRS surround system and its effects during the King Kong DVD in the scene where the planes circle the Empire State Building. Quite impressive.

If you have a home network, you'll find the Bravia is able to stream content quite easily. We used a PC with Windows Media Player 11 and sharing turned on. The Sony recognised the computer straight away and we were able to play MP3s and JPEGs without fuss. However, we found the TV wasn't very successful with music: playing the new David Byrne/Brian Eno collaboration left the TV a little throaty when trying to reproduce the ex-Talking Heads man's vocals. Photos, on the other hand, looked great courtesy of the TVs "Photo" picture mode.

Despite some misgivings about the cosmetics and dubious marketing, this is a very likeable television. It performs well, it's relatively good value for money, and is loaded with features — including the supremely efficient 200Hz mode. If you're umming and ahhing between this and the XBR45, then it's a no-brainer — get this one.

Which one, Z or Kuro? Connecting to Pc is the only thing I have not tried this yet, so I would not know. There are threads on AVSForums stating some scan line issues at the corners as well as discoloration when you use the Z with a PC. You may want to look that up first.
Pioneer Kuro. Google that. Deep black and colors. No regrets whatsoever getting it for my LA home.

Straight HDMI-HDMI is the best for consoles and BD players.

Just slowly back away from that rambling lunatic about his supposed knowledge superiority and what we should do about our likes and preferences. The Z has its strengths and weaknesses, and when paired with good material, it shows. But also bear in mind, the images produced by this technology is an acquired taste, not everyone will like it, but nice to have the option there.