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post Mar 26 2009, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(sexyspanishguitar @ Mar 25 2009, 10:52 PM)
okkkkkkkkk ! i just bump into this sites. mainly because am VERY PISSED AND TRY TO FIND REVIEWS BOUT THIS PHONE. recently i just bought this SE C905 on 8th mac 2009 ! from TIMES SQUARE. company name is LATEST COMMUNICATION SDN. BHD.(ITS THE SAME FLOOR AS STARBUCKS AND OPPOSITE MARRYBROWN )LEVEL 3. not even a week i have already experinced lagging. ok..1st i thot it was quite normal for phone that has lots of features. and thot i will gve it some time. if this keeps happening and becomes annoying and really bugs me, i will take it back to the dealer. MIND U ITS THE ORIGINAL SET. I GOT THE ORIGINAL WARRANTY FROM SE. NOT AP SET. so yesterday, on 21st mac 2009. WHICH IS MY BAD DAY. ALL of a sudden my phone started to act funny. its ON AND OFF by itself. AUTO OFF basically. and i cant check my contacts. when i click on contacts, its just not opening. then the phone cant be ON for like 2 hours ! IT DOESNT STOP THERE! my Phone started to become HOT! its OVER HEATING for what reason???,….I DONT KNOW! ITS LIKE ITS GOING TO EXPLODE ! WHICH I THINK IT CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS. So my BF called the guy whom we bought it from ..Mr TAKURO LEE. SALES SUPERVISOR ! After few attempts trying to reach him, then finally, he managed to talked to him. SO MY BF SAID THIS IS VERY BAD . HE WANT A REPLACEMENT FOR THIS PHONE. MR TAKURO SAID, HE CANT GIVES US REPLACEMENT. HE SAID ONLY SONY ERICSSON CAN DO THAT. HE EVEN SAID WE CAN GO TO THE NEAREST SE CENTER. SO WE WENT TO KLCC. WHEN WE ARRIVED THERE , THE GUY SAID WE CANT GET REPLACEMENT FOR THAT, ITS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEALER. THEY CAN ONLY DO SERVICING. WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? 2 DIFFERENT STORIES FROM DIFFERENT PERSON ! SO WHO GOING TO B RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? ITS A SERIOUS PROBLEMS WHEN THE PHONE IS AUTO OFF AND OVER HEATING. AND CANT BE CHARGE! AND IT KEEPS SAYING PLEASE USE ORIGINAL SE BATTERY.. SO WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO THINK? WHAT U GUYS BE THINKING IF U WERE IN MY SHOES? U DEFINTELY 100% SURE U HAVE BEEN CHEATED ISNT IT? U TELL ME WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO THINK? MY BF WAS ASKING HIM THE BOSS PHONE NUMBER. HE SAID ‘ NO NEED TO MAKE THIS AN ISSUE, I WILL GET FIRED ‘ !!! WHAT THE HECK? U SCARED U GET FIRED? IF U WERE ON A RIGHT SIDE WHY SHOULD U BE SCARED? ONLY GUILTY PERSON WOULD SAY SUCH THINGS . WEIRD THING IS, HE AT 1ST DOESNT WAN TO GIVE US RECEIPT. HE SAID. THE WARRANTY IS ALREADY SUFFICIENT ENOUGH. THATS REALLY DISTURBING FOR EVERY CONCERN CONSUMERS AND CUSTOMERS . ONLY AFTER WE REALLY ASKED FOR THE RECEIPT HA GAVES US THE ‘ PASAR MALAM’ OR CHINCAI RECEIPTS. ! THEN MY BF SAID NO! THIS IS SHIT RECEIPT! I CAN JUST BUY THIS AND GV IT TO U ALSO! THEN AFTER A LIL BIT OF ARGUMENTS, THEN THE OTHER SALESGIRLS CAME. TALKING TO US QUITE HARSH. AND SHE SAID ‘ OK’ I CHOP(STAMP) OUR COMPANYS STAMP ON IT ! AFTER ALL THIS SHIT EXPERINCED , I FELT LIKE ITS REALLY MY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC TO WRITE A REVIEWS ON SOME DEALERS AND PRODUCTS! JUST BECAREFUL FROM WHOM U BUY IT. THERE TONNES OF CON MAN OUT THERE THAT JUST WANT TO EAT UP YOUR MONEY! AM DOING A COMMUNITY SERVICE HERE. CONSUMER MUST KNOW THEIR RIGHTS! U WOULDNT WANT TO SPLURGE MONEY ON THINGS LIKE THIS JUST TO GO THROUGH HELLFIRE ! !
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post Mar 26 2009, 12:42 AM

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Dlim, can you not post unrelated posts everywhere? If you see your post history, 90% of your posts are unrelated to the topic, 1 sentenced reply and add an emoticon in. That's it.

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My phone got the earpiece problem. suddenly didnt work last nite when it was working perfectly fine in the evening. then I use my handsfree then after that i refused to work.

When I receive/make calls, i cannot hear the other person. hv to put on loudspeaker sad.gif

lucky mine is ori. where's the nearest place to send it in Damansara or Bangsar area?

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QUOTE(sexyspanishguitar @ Mar 25 2009, 11:12 PM)
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I dont think customers here in MALAYSIA have more says . I have already sent it for sure. And they said its the software problems. What does software problems got to do with  BATTERY OVER HEAT??? AND WHEN CHRGING THE PHONE IT SAYS PLEASE USE ORIGINAL SE BATTERY???? AND  MR JOHN WOO FROM SE NEVER EVER CALL ME NOT EVEN ONCE AS PROMISED. ITS US THAT KEEP CALLING THEM TO ASK BOUT THE PHONE. THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY RM 1800  WE HAVE SPENT ON THE PHONE IS PROBABLY A MONTH OF HIS SALARY. AND ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP BUGGING THEM WHEN IT GOT PROBLEMS???
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For the record, my phone (before February 2009 software update) has the battery heating problem. In summary my phone have the following symptoms:

1. Bluetooth connection cannot be established and cannot be turned ON/OFF without removing battery to reset. Not even soft reset.
2. WIFI connection cannot be established without removing battery to reset.
3. GPS is slow to detect. After using GPS, battery will heat up and experienced accelerated discharging/battery drain.
4. SEUS update will always fail.

After the February2009 major update, item 1 to 3 was fixed. I can confirmed it is software problem. In fact, battery heat up is actually not related to battery. It is the MCU that is heating up. I am convinced that after using GPS, it'll fail to close the GPS coding and kept it looping in the MCU wasting unnecessary cycles and causing the heat up. Also, when the MCU or other components is stucked at 100% utilization, they'll use more power and hence place a larger drain on the battery. When battery is discharging at higher than normal, it'll heat up. Simple characteristics of Lithium Ion/Polymer batteries.

However, after update my phone keep on restarting if I perform some specific steps like watching youtube with WIFI on. I am sure it was software problem because I didn't really do a full reset before using it. So I thought of updating again with SEUS but this time an EROM failure cause it to shut down permanently. So I sent mine in. After a few trips in and out of SE service center, they finally gave me a new replacement phone and a new battery.

By the way, a lot of new SE phones do not have the 'Optimized Battery Charging' wording anymore. Its only 'Batter Charging'. If you see something other than these (like what you mentioned), then you might be using a counterfeit battery or an original battery with a defective chip. To check if you have an original battery, you can inspect the holograms, etc. If you sent your in, they will be able to identify it and give you a new replacement. They will settle the issue with the place you bought it from. These things don't need to involve customer.


Added on March 26, 2009, 10:55 am
QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Mar 26 2009, 10:10 AM)
My phone got the earpiece problem. suddenly didnt work last nite when it was working perfectly fine in the evening. then I use my handsfree then after that i refused to work.

When I receive/make calls, i cannot hear the other person. hv to put on loudspeaker sad.gif

lucky mine is ori. where's the nearest place to send it in Damansara or Bangsar area?
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Looks like a flex-cable tear? I read that the flex-cable like any other slider phones is prone to accidental tearing. Thats why the earpiece failed to work but the speakers are ok. But this is just guessing. For locations of SE service centers, you can check their official website or give them a call at their numbers.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Mar 26 2009, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Mar 26 2009, 10:10 AM)
My phone got the earpiece problem. suddenly didnt work last nite when it was working perfectly fine in the evening. then I use my handsfree then after that i refused to work.

When I receive/make calls, i cannot hear the other person. hv to put on loudspeaker sad.gif

lucky mine is ori. where's the nearest place to send it in Damansara or Bangsar area?
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nearest to u would be damansara uptown or amcorp mall..


QUOTE(davidmak @ Mar 26 2009, 10:49 AM)
By the way, a lot of new SE phones do not have the 'Optimized Battery Charging' wording anymore. Its only 'Batter Charging'. If you see something other than these (like what you mentioned), then you might be using a counterfeit battery or an original battery with a defective chip. To check if you have an original battery, you can inspect the holograms, etc. If you sent your in, they will be able to identify it and give you a new replacement. They will settle the issue with the place you bought it from. These things don't need to involve customer.
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i had the use ori battery shit oso.... mine was ori battery and no the chip wasnt defective (still using the same battery now)....and alot of my symptoms were the same as that girl whos caps lock button seems to be spoiled and probably doesnt know the meaning of the word "paragraph"...wat was wrong was the see saw cable... replaced it and it all went away...

its a ribbon cable in the slider...most likely its the same exact thing u call the flex-cable...i call it see saw coz thats wat the SC fellers call it biggrin.gif

my GFs phone had the same shit as well... but not the ori battery thing... hers was defective with almost similar symptoms...changed the cable and its all good....
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:05 PM

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ah...now i feel so lucky that my phone got no problem. lol.
that girl who keep complaining wan seems like she juz wanna complain only. lol. after so many suggestions still complaining. =p

anyway, i dun think the sms conversation thing will be included ler...
though i saw it in C510 in the blog.se-nse.net review... hm..
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post Mar 26 2009, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(ian90 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:05 PM)
ah...now i feel so lucky that my phone got no problem. lol.
that girl who keep complaining wan seems like she juz wanna complain only. lol. after so many suggestions still complaining. =p

anyway, i dun think the sms conversation thing will be included ler...
though i saw it in C510 in the blog.se-nse.net review... hm..
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Mr ian90.

Its my phone and i bought at a price of RM 1800. ITS UP TO ME IF I WANT TO COMPLAINT WHEN IM FACING A PROBLEM WITH THE PHONE. ITS A FREE WORLD. WE HAVE A FREEDOM TO COMPLAIN AS A CUSTOMER ( THIS PROBABLY DOESNT APPLY TO U !! ) I HAVE ALREADY SENT IT TO SE SERVICE CENTER BEFORE EVEN MR DAVIDMAK GAVE ME A GOOD ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS. ITS REALLY UP TO ME IF I WANT TO COMPLAIN TO ANY WEBSITE, TO NCCC, TO ANY REPORTERS, TO HIGHER MANAGEMENT LEVEL OF SE, TO NEWSPAPER OR EVEN TO TV3. WHO ARE YOU TO STOP ME? ? ?

ARE YOU PAYING FOR MY PHONE? ARE U THE ONE WHO IN MY SHOES NOW? EASY SAID THAN DONE RIGHT?? NEVER KNOW ONE FINE DAY WHEN U CAN AFFORD TO BUY HIGH END PHONE AND U FACING WORSE SCENARIO THAN ME.. BY THEN U SHOULD KNOW THE FEELING ! !


HAVE A NICE DAY!


Added on March 26, 2009, 6:02 pm
QUOTE(davidmak @ Mar 26 2009, 10:49 AM)
For the record, my phone (before February 2009 software update) has the battery heating problem. In summary my phone have the following symptoms:

1. Bluetooth connection cannot be established and cannot be turned ON/OFF without removing battery to reset. Not even soft reset.
2. WIFI connection cannot be established without removing battery to reset.
3. GPS is slow to detect. After using GPS, battery will heat up and experienced accelerated discharging/battery drain.
4. SEUS update will always fail.

After the February2009 major update, item 1 to 3 was fixed. I can confirmed it is software problem. In fact, battery heat up is actually not related to battery. It is the MCU that is heating up. I am convinced that after using GPS, it'll fail to close the GPS coding and kept it looping in the MCU wasting unnecessary cycles and causing the heat up. Also, when the MCU or other components is stucked at 100% utilization, they'll use more power and hence place a larger drain on the battery. When battery is discharging at higher than normal, it'll heat up. Simple characteristics of Lithium Ion/Polymer batteries.

However, after update my phone keep on restarting if I perform some specific steps like watching youtube with WIFI on. I am sure it was software problem  because I didn't really do a full reset before using it. So I thought of updating again with SEUS but this time an EROM failure cause it to shut down permanently. So I sent mine in. After a few trips in and out of SE service center, they finally gave me a new replacement phone and a new battery.

By the way, a lot of new SE phones do not have the 'Optimized Battery Charging' wording anymore. Its only 'Batter Charging'. If you see something other than these (like what you mentioned), then you might be using a counterfeit battery or an original battery with a defective chip. To check if you have an original battery, you can inspect the holograms, etc. If you sent your in, they will be able to identify it and give you a new replacement. They will settle the issue with the place you bought it from. These things don't need to involve customer.


Added on March 26, 2009, 10:55 am

Looks like a flex-cable tear? I read that the flex-cable like any other slider phones is prone to accidental tearing. Thats why the earpiece failed to work but the speakers are ok. But this is just guessing. For locations of SE service centers, you can check their official website or give them a call at their numbers.
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Davidmak

Ok. Btw, thanks for taking your time to respond to my comments. That is really helpful.

I will have to c next when i take back the phone. See if the problems still occur.

Thanks.


This post has been edited by sexyspanishguitar: Mar 26 2009, 06:02 PM
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post Mar 26 2009, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ Mar 26 2009, 12:42 AM)
Dlim, can you not post unrelated posts everywhere? If you see your post history, 90% of your posts are unrelated to the topic, 1 sentenced reply and add an emoticon in. That's it.

You wanna spam, please go to kopitiam section and spam all you want.
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Got problem ?


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post Mar 26 2009, 07:26 PM

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u're not supposed to have unrelated & 1 liners posts in a post counted thread.
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hey i just bought my C905 few days ago . i got one question to ask you guys that is how much it cost when i m using google maps , navigation and GPS without connecting to wifi ?
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If you have the maps installed in your phone, then by just using the satellite to track your location etc., no charges.

However, google maps will sync the map with google also, therefore standard charges for GPRS/EDGE/3G/HSDPA applies.

*For a free 1, you can try reading the first post, TrekBuddy, links to download is there too. Free smile.gif

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QUOTE(sexyspanishguitar @ Mar 26 2009, 05:54 PM)
Mr ian90.

Its my phone and i bought at a price of RM 1800. ITS UP TO ME IF I WANT TO COMPLAINT WHEN IM FACING A PROBLEM WITH THE PHONE. ITS A FREE WORLD.  WE HAVE A FREEDOM TO COMPLAIN AS A CUSTOMER ( THIS PROBABLY DOESNT APPLY TO U !! ) I HAVE ALREADY SENT IT TO SE SERVICE CENTER BEFORE EVEN MR DAVIDMAK GAVE ME A GOOD ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS.  ITS REALLY UP TO ME IF I WANT TO COMPLAIN TO ANY WEBSITE, TO NCCC, TO ANY REPORTERS, TO HIGHER MANAGEMENT LEVEL OF SE, TO NEWSPAPER OR EVEN TO TV3. WHO ARE YOU TO STOP ME? ? ?

ARE YOU PAYING FOR MY PHONE? ARE U THE ONE WHO IN MY SHOES NOW? EASY SAID THAN DONE RIGHT?? NEVER KNOW ONE FINE DAY WHEN U CAN AFFORD TO BUY  HIGH END PHONE AND U FACING WORSE SCENARIO THAN ME.. BY THEN U SHOULD KNOW THE FEELING ! !
HAVE A NICE DAY!

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I tio flame. lol. icon_rolleyes.gif

anywayyyy, i got a call from SE today asking about the "customer experience" for C905. (i think the se service center gave the info in)
In the conversation, i mentioned:
1. keypad problem
2. hang issue (sometimes only)
3. game A and game B buttons lembik

hopefully they will take that feedback n go improve the keypad... then near end of my warranty i go change again. muahahaha.
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QUOTE(ian90 @ Mar 26 2009, 09:40 PM)
I tio flame. lol.  icon_rolleyes.gif

anywayyyy, i got a call from SE today asking about the "customer experience" for C905. (i think the se service center gave the info in)
In the conversation, i mentioned:
1. keypad problem
2. hang issue (sometimes only)
3. game A and game B buttons lembik

hopefully they will take that feedback n go improve the keypad... then near end of my warranty i go change again. muahahaha.
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Me not yet get such calls. Hopefully I can contribute when I receive one.
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QUOTE(rayzrblade @ Mar 25 2009, 11:02 PM)
anybody got any luck with the sms chat view?
i upgrade 2 times also didnt get it..
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same here no luck also .lol doh.gif urs is ap or ori ? mine ap .lol
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 26 2009, 10:25 PM)
same here no luck also .lol doh.gif urs is ap or ori ? mine ap .lol
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I believe SMS Chat was taken off and didn't make it to the February 2009 update. Probably the upcoming one will.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Mar 27 2009, 07:33 AM)
I believe SMS Chat was taken off and didn't make it to the February 2009 update. Probably the upcoming one will.
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i think its due to not enough space on the phone ... lol
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ Mar 26 2009, 09:08 PM)
If you have the maps installed in your phone, then by just using the satellite to track your location etc., no charges.

However, google maps will sync the map with google also, therefore standard charges for GPRS/EDGE/3G/HSDPA applies.

*For a free 1, you can try reading the first post, TrekBuddy, links to download is there too. Free smile.gif
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what maps ?
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hey will be making my decision on the purchase of this phone soon....is this phone still experiencing all the endless problems? if not then I'll go back to my c902 which I love so much......I've personally seen the phone and felt that it's too plasticky....any comments?
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QUOTE(chuakz @ Mar 27 2009, 11:22 PM)
hey will be making my decision on the purchase of this phone soon....is this phone still experiencing all the endless problems? if not then I'll go back to my c902 which I love so much......I've personally seen the phone and felt that it's too plasticky....any comments?
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All comments is in this whole topic. You can read from page 1 onwards for the comments.
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QUOTE(chuakz @ Mar 27 2009, 11:22 PM)
hey will be making my decision on the purchase of this phone soon....is this phone still experiencing all the endless problems? if not then I'll go back to my c902 which I love so much......I've personally seen the phone and felt that it's too plasticky....any comments?
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I would say all phone got pros and cons, but as for me, I think the later production of the C905 is alot more stable/safe compared to the older ones. And also, I would say, still no regrets getting this phone so far, willing to bear with everything that's gonna happen tongue.gif

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