Got an offer from UM. Is the pay normally negotiable? Haven't seen the offer letter yet because it's in my home town, but the total pay and allowance isn't really that high compared to my current job. Probably going to have to take a 30k paycut or more annually.

Tough decision.

permanent job or contract?

contract is negotiable, but permanent isnt.

1. 3-4 years if you're lucky. could be more than that.

2. Getting a phd won't get you a job.

Contract. Do they still offer permanent positions directly?

Oh yeah, how do you read those government payscales?

Payscale

How do you get from P1 to P2 to P3? What is it based on?

Can we negotiate a pay rise, let's say, from P1 to P2 or T1 to T2?

u can negotiate where u will start on the scale, but u dont negotiate pay rise or stuff like that.

u move up the T almost automatically each year. just fulfill the KPI etc and up u go.

i cant remember how u move up the P. but it involves some job change.

What qualifies someone up to the rank of Associate Professor and Professor? Is it tenure? The chair they are holding? Reputation and publications they did?

Assoc. Prof.:
At least 8 ISI journal papers published.
At least 2 Masters and 2 PhD students graduated.
Publish at least 1 ISI paper per year.

Prof. C:
At least 15 ISI papers published.
At least 4 Masters and 4 PhD students graduated.
Publish at least 2 ISI papers per year.
Top 3 papers have at least 36 citations from 2010-2012.
Top 4 papers have at least 64 citations from 2012-2014.

Prof. B:
At least 25 ISI papers published.
At least 4 Masters and 6 PhD students graduated.
Publish at least 3 ISI papers per year.
Top 5 papers have at least 100 citations from 2010-2012.
Top 6 papers have at least 144 citations from 2012-2014.

Prof. A:
At least 35 ISI papers published.
At least 6 Masters and 8 PhD students graduated.
Publish at least 4 ISI papers per year.
Top 7 papers have at least 196 citations from 2010-2012.
Top 8 papers have at least 256 citations from 2012-2014.

Hi, how to get the MyPhD offer if i am 1st class student in IPTS?

Do ur phd is IPTA, and apply for it once u get ur offer letter.

Hey Azarimy, I was just doing a little bit of stalking on this thread , and you seem to be really knowledgeable in higher education in Malaysia. Anyways, I'm a 24 yr old Malaysian in the US right now, and will be finishing my Masters degree in Cell and Molecular biology (University of Arkansas, Fayetteville) in May 2012. I got my undergrad degree in similar field from an American school as well. I left Malaysia about 5yrs ago for higher studies and I'm not a JPA scholar, although I met a few of them here during my stay in the US.

I also have 2 yrs of experience as an instructor (I teach 1st and 2nd year Biology labs for undergrads) during my Masters years.

My question for you is, is there anything I have to do before I can apply to instructor/teaching positions in IPTA like courses/ certifications? How difficult/easy for me to get a position in an IPTA? I am 100% committed to learning more things in my field, and so research is a good thing. But my passion is also in teaching. I am not thinking of PhD right away as of now.But that maybe an option I'm thinking about the future.

I also have an extensive research background from my master degree (It lasted 3 years). I worked in yeast genomics. Expression studies in histone H2B protein.

Let me know what you think. Thanks a lot!

first, i dont know much about ur field.

lets assume u do know everything there is to know about ur field, i think u would know how crucial ur background is in ur field. the availability of the job in malaysia highly depends on this, but of course it should be drawn into context with the malaysian environment.

for example, malaysia might not be ready for u even if u hold the answer to higgs boson problem, as u would be best to reside in switzerland.

just out of curiousity..to azarimy..if you wanted to be lecturer..is getting a phd MANDATORY ? and 1 more thing..just assume a teacher that wanted to be a lecturer..after he or she completed phd..can he or she still be a lecturer (lecturer in education) ? because i have read in other forum that a teacher cannot be upgraded to lecturer ? thanks in advance =)

well, yes. if u join an IPTA as an academician, u will hold the post of tutor until u have obtained ur PhD. this ruling is in effect since circa 2002. so yes, u will still find lecturers without PhDs, but they'll soon be phased out.

a teacher cant be upgraded to become a lecturer. it's two different profession. a lot of people assume that since both professions 'teach', hence once could lead to the other. it doesnt. as a teacher, u are teaching students, but as a lecturer in education, u're basically teaching teachers. totally different.

also, lecturers are involved in consultancies, research, publications, supervisions, practice and so on and not limited to teaching only. basically lecturers of education are the people who figure out new methods to teach and later introduce it into the syllabus. teachers on the other hand use the syllabus to teach.

thank you so much..cause i'm now waiting for my SPM result to come out..and i'm really interested in becoming a lecturer..but..let's say after degree..can I apply in becoming a tutor..and work my way up until I be a lecturer ?

sure.

but thing is, what field do u want to venture in? not every field has the same amount of openings (for lecturers). critical courses like architecture, law, medicine, accountancy and engineering are almost always short handed. but to become a lecturer in these fields, u need to be seriously good in ur undergraduate years. and before u do that, u need to QUALIFY first to do those degrees.

there is no such thing as general lecturer (like teachers). in academia, everyone is specialized in one way or another.

i'm thinking of engineering or maybe pure science(Physics)....but i'll do my best... =)

My wife plans to take part time master in Management/MBA (currently working with 5 years experience) to become a lecturer...What is the suitable way to enter IPTA as a lecturer next? Do we need to wait for the openings, approaching deans etc? I think becoming a tutor first is too late I guess with such a low salary after so many years in private sector...If the Unis accepted, do they still support u for a Phd before becoming a lecturer? I've been reading the whole thread but couldn't find the definite answer. Thanks

the easiest is to talk to the dean where she will be studying. the dean would then be able to recommend possible options, should the faculty did not have any openings at the moment.

if she joins as a tutor, she will be supported for her PhD. the only question is where. overseas PhD is becoming scarce as we speak. so chances are she will be asked to do it locally, unless she can get a 3rd party scholarship to support her studies. yes, the tutor salary is small. but the salary will continue to go on even when she's on study leave.

assuming she goes abroad for her PhD for 3 years, the salary will accumulate for 36 months. at RM2k a month, that's RM72k waiting for her when she comes back! which is why we dont recommend people to stay as a tutor for too long. if u can, go straight to do ur PhD the month u join in .

Hi, are there any scholarship for postgraduate from government are still available for master? hope with allowance, currently i enrolled master programme at UM and planning to convert to PHD in next year.
I had think about SLAI but i not really know what should i do.

This post has been edited by keenjoy1413: Feb 21 2012, 03:39 AM

Do you plan to serve as a lecturer? If you do, then apply for SLAI. If you don't, there's always MyBrain, which provides an allowance at the PhD level.