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 The All New Honda City 2009 Official Thread v2, compiled by mikelee

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post Feb 2 2009, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(cysmark @ Feb 2 2009, 12:09 PM)
Actually tht is not a bad idea... but can't utilise my new Honda CIty leh...  tongue.gif
Perhap should drive 1,3,5 and take KTM on 2 and 4... haha
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Yea, but the 3G City is sufficiently fuel economical la. It was much better than my previous Waja
So no complaints for me.
I guess driving at odd days or even days is good. Save fuel and car mileage too smile.gif

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post Feb 2 2009, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(dstyx @ Feb 2 2009, 02:03 PM)
Have to drive very gently lo. I try to keep my RPM below 2k and my FC is 12.8km/l. That's 14cents/km.
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Haven't driven down to KL city yet (tomorrow will be the first) for work,
It's running a decent 13.5km / liter now. first time pump petrol.
Hopefully will improve as the engine runs in
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post Feb 2 2009, 09:26 PM

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You did a good job with the paint touch up. Guess only the brake lights reflectors need to be replaced.

How'd it happened? Looks like you grazed some metal bar or something
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post Feb 3 2009, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(chris_x @ Feb 2 2009, 06:19 PM)
Anyone interested to join me in the purchase of brake pedal lock? We could get a group discount.

I'll organize it soon.

Please review the 2 models available less than RM200, price TBC:
1. Autolock 1645/1640 (bullet-proof) - http://www.megacell.com.my/products/1640.asp

2. Autolock 1440 - http://www.megacell.com.my/products/1440.asp

-Lock up Brake or Clutch, making your car undriveable.
-Heavy-duty lock. Fits easily on most brake pedals, which is strongest part of the vehicle and virtually impossible to cut.
-Hardened steel lock body, makes it strong & secure making the vehicle non-driveable.
-Pick resistant lock with 3 high security keys.
-2 Years warranty against manufacturing defects.
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Any other models? Has anybody used these locks before?
My only concern is if the brake-lock doesn't fit our car rclxub.gif
I wouldn't mind getting one. Do let us know how much both models will cost.
Do let me know yah
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post Feb 3 2009, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Car-Tea @ Feb 3 2009, 10:18 AM)
for everyone's viewing, please see this link for tyre prices..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/377857

i believe that the r17 is still cheaper than r16 for the same make.. on ur comment on the warranty, i m only planning to change the rims after the warranty is over / almost three years.
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Could you quote the comparison?
There's way too my tyres on that list and I'm not sure how 'updated' the price is.
Enlighten me though how a R17 tyre can be cheaper than the corresponding R16 tyre of the same make and model (taking into account the width and height*), 'cos I've not seen any so far. My previous ride.. My NCT5 16" was RM250 as oppose to < RM200 for an NCT5 15". Cheers smile.gif

* - Larger tyres = more rubber used = lesser tyre production (hence, lesser economies of scale) = more expensive?


Added on February 3, 2009, 11:35 am
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 3 2009, 11:02 AM)
You can do an experiment on NKVE or Kesas Highway - Logically, the faster you go, the more the current FC will drop. However, since there's not much traffic on the highway, FC will remain constant. The only other car I've heard able to achieve such ratings is the Sylphy so 17.8L is quite fantastic.

The ideal rev should be above 2k but under 3k if you're doing less than 110km/hr while optimal FC occurs at 90km/hr. One more thing, you should be able to hit 400+km easily on a full tank of gas. I know first hand that previous generation Vios can do 520km on a full tank of gas City/Highway combined. There's absolutely no reason for the NHC to have problems equalling or bettering that performance.
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I think if I can get about 450km on a full tank of gas with mostly city (KL) driving, I'll be contented.
Right now.. for the first full tank of gas, think I'm getting about 400km.


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post Feb 3 2009, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Car-Tea @ Feb 3 2009, 01:25 PM)
i hear u.. however my concern is not 15" and 16" tyres. my concern is 16" and 17" tyres, simply because 17" is more widely produced. A general question, how many standard cars come fitted with 16" wheels. A more wider variety of stock make cars come with 15" or 17".
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Actually I think quite a lot...can list down quite a few. But I guess that's not the question anyway. smile.gif
So back to the topic, what rims are you planning to get..for the 17" rims.. whistling.gif

I actually like the standard rims.. nod.gif
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post Feb 3 2009, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(vez @ Feb 3 2009, 03:12 PM)
my FC is around 17.7km/l, 90% highway...can almost reach JB from Penang... but not dare to try... so pump before reach haha
if 90% town, around 13km/l
Wow. 17.7 km/l. That's very good.
What a big difference between cruising and city driving.
But overall, still economical.

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i just went to service my car today, they didn't help me to change engine oil, they said 5000km only change, weird... anyone went to service their car also like this for first service?

the left side rear light need to change whole set, coz i found out there is a very tiny rubber inside when i wash my car... the power window rubber that already spoil also have to wait them change... another screw missing at the front bonnet too...

already found 3 problems after 2weeks and wash my car twice
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Yup. The 1st 1000km is just checking, no oil change etc.
More to check whether any problems with the car.
I will definitely check my car thoroughly to see if there's any problems
with the car. So far so good *fingers crossed*
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post Feb 3 2009, 05:41 PM

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Sigh, second visit to V-Kool service center at Meru Klang. Bad service and manner when talk to me, as they giving reluctant action to change the main win-screen at front which contain soap stain. Forcing me talk impolite and make sure they do it correctly. After changing everything look nice and my eye feel ease with clean win screen. The only thing that they siad to me was that the dust-free capability when they installing is just 90% dust free, other 10% is subjective to the enviroment winds and dust flying around. How unreasonable!
Tmr I will be going to service my car 1000KM service, but my car reached 1.5k KM and a lot of complain to be made:
-Double top rubber is peeling off What's double top rubber?
-Front left door have improper paint finishing Check with HM
-Front bumper have tiny scratches when I get my car. Hard to claim on this unless you have evidence that your car had these scratches before you took it. Wear and tear; stone chips etc
-High FC even when driving slow with low RPM(1.5RPM to 2RPM & speed max to 110). highest AVG KM\L is 15.7km. Max TRIP to go is below 400KM/L. Wonder what was the problem that causing this HIGH FC. 15.7km / liter is very good. That's approx. 600 KM per full tank. RM0.12 per km is bloody good.
-When pulling hand brake and stop up a narrow hill, car still slip down. Pulled full? Check with HM
-Car allignment.(Was told by SA that within 3000KM allignment and balancing is still FOC, check with your service center)
-Air condition is not cooling and hot at rear seat, took long time to cool up the whole car space. I've got to admit that Proton has one of the best air-cond out there. It's bloody cold. So I'm not surprised if the City doesn't fare as well.
-Air condition sound is loud when you switch to your air condition to blow at face and foot. It's a new car, unless we have a comparison with other NHC users.. this might not be a problem. I will try later tonight when I drive back from work.
-RPM unstable when going up hill. Heard a few forumers having that problem. Better check it
-Car is bumpy. Guys is this common to your car? On highways, it's fine for me.
-Tyre sound is loud when driving at highway. Was told that this is because of our NHC specially designed tyre which is 195 Good Year 16". I can't this tyre outside for now, and heard from few tyre shop that this type of tyre is expensive. Yes, this I have to agree. It's quite loud. I suggest maybe to check the tyre pressure to see whether it's overinflated. But also to note, the Civic I have.. it uses NCT5s which are pretty noisy too. More quiet using the Falken ZE912, soft compound..but wear out rate is faster.

Guys, which center you feel the best in term of efficiency, quality, friendlines and customer service?

Heard that USJ Subang is really good? I currently facing some problem with some service center in term of customer service and SA friendliness.


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post Feb 3 2009, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(kedaimaya @ Feb 3 2009, 08:52 PM)
Bro.. they have to minus those who booked but loan not approve also. But most important now is recession coming soon.. many potential buyer already hold their spendings.
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Well, actually the economy IS experiencing a recession right now. Just that the Govt. is in denial about that fact.
We definitely need to be more prudent with our spending. I'm gonna wait awhile till the recession sets in and ppl will be forced to slash prices on some items. maybe we can get some good deals smile.gif

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post Feb 3 2009, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(love_hina @ Feb 3 2009, 09:08 PM)
me, book on jan (mid) and next week (tues) i'm getting my car .. so excited now.. went to jpj to choose "lucky" number liao .. rclxm9.gif
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Congratz. Think somebody cancelled their booking, that's why.
Enjoy your CBP smile.gif
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post Feb 4 2009, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Lowyat @ Feb 3 2009, 10:19 PM)
I heard New City Price drop RM900...issit true??
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Nope.
The 'price drop' is probably due to your SA offering a 'rebate'. This way it artificially drops the car price (the amount you have to pay), but the overall retail price is still the same. So that this doesn't affect your 2nd hand value and lower their selling price (sellers always try not to do this, cos in the long run if times are good and they decide to raise the price, they might lose some customers)


Added on February 4, 2009, 12:47 am
QUOTE(hush_puppies @ Feb 4 2009, 12:27 AM)
ZeroSP, u booked on Dec but got your car on Jan? So fast.. Mine might be getting March. But not sure yet. need to call up the SA since I have not submit anything yet just the deposit.
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Same here. Booked on 19/12/08, got my car on 23/01/08.
Mainly due to the fact that someone cancelled his / her booking for the ASM E-Spec. Good for me nod.gif

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post Feb 4 2009, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(hush_puppies @ Feb 4 2009, 12:16 AM)
yes. The previous HOnda City build quality is more better than the NHC. My bro owns a previous gen Honda City. Last week my friend drove his NHC to my house and my bro and I had compared it side by side. Ergh... if my bro has not bought the previous gen Honda City, I would definitely go for the previous gen with the price tag of 79k after discount.
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I would think the "build quality" was better in the 2G 'cos it was a "phasing out" model. Usually those model are like the final version. As with new models or software, you have v1.0, v1.1 & v1.2 etc. The same goes with this. I bet the earlier models had niggles and bumps, and tons of ppl have complained about it.. but eventually the car company would've rectified this. Look at the Proton Wira SE..damn that car's a tank, reliable as hell and had minimal problems..

Right now by purchasing the NHC, you are indeed paying a premium on a totally new design. And of course new things might not come out as perfect as you want it (I've got more analogies...hehe). If you wanna be safe, wait for at least 6 months when feedbacks come trickling in and HM takes action.


Added on February 4, 2009, 12:54 am
QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Feb 4 2009, 12:47 AM)
RM550 the PPS if not wrong as offered...
The 3M mat and 3M CR70 already 2050...
Ha.. My dad typically just sees NHC as entry level car.. So PPS not needed, that's why he asks me pay myself if I want.
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To be exact.. it's RM544. RM680 - 20%. smile.gif
Was raining in KL earlier in the evening, so when I got back I just rinsed my car and wiped it dry ('cos Raymond advised me to try to keep the car dry for 48 hrs to let the Teflon bond to the paint nicely). It was very easy to wipe it dry and get rid of the dirt and grime. Took me 10 minutes from start to finish. I'm happy with the PPS so far

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post Feb 4 2009, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(foocy2001 @ Feb 4 2009, 02:25 AM)
Sorry to hear that and curse those itchy fingers who stole it!

As one of the forumers here say : super glue your antenna to it's housingbrows.gif
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I did that with my old Waja antenna.
I'm gonna take a look at the antenna and see whether I can also super-glue it. I rather it get stuck, then stolen
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post Feb 4 2009, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(foocy2001 @ Feb 4 2009, 01:45 PM)
What would you normally do? Apply glue of the thread of the screw or the tip of the screw?
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For my previous car, I glued the 'rubber' part of the antenna tip.. not the thread of the screw 'cos so if I really needed to yank the thing off.. I could.
I'm not sure how the NHC's antenna works. Later at home I'll take a closer look at it.
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post Feb 4 2009, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 4 2009, 04:12 PM)
It follows to what you signed. So if it drops to 2.22% and you've taken the car then tough luck. If not, then you can always negotiate again. Btw, they won't let you collect the car until you have signed all documents and cleared whatever outstanding payments due to them.
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Yup. That's true.
Is the rate really going to drop that low?
Well, good luck.

Pretty lucky to get your car so soon.
The other 2 cars, not yet right?
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post Feb 4 2009, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(phachat @ Feb 4 2009, 04:54 PM)
People, I'm new here. My SE called saying mine is arriving on 12/2/09. Booked on 20/1/09. So fast! But only the S spec. Wonder if it's worth to add in the modulo package. What say u peeps??
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Hey. Welcome.
Not worth it to add the Modulo kit. With that money, should've gotten the E-Spec.
Anyway.. wait for the Modulo (non-original) one to come out..much cheaper
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post Feb 4 2009, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(hush_puppies @ Feb 4 2009, 05:46 PM)
Other NHC driver also has experienced this matter?
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Actually I'm not very sure what do you mean by unstable RPM. Could you illustrate it to me? So far, my gear shift has been alright..quite smooth.
So far I haven't found anything wrong with my ASM City, except for the less than favourable FC (I'm hoping that after the engine run's in, it will improve).

Oh yah, this is gonna be a n00b question..but since I didn't read the service manual booklet (too lazy), just want to ask.. the under seat air cond vent.. how do we switch it on? which of the air-cond dial should I switch it to for the air to come out of that under seat vent? thanks..
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QUOTE(cppau @ Feb 4 2009, 06:06 PM)
For example, when u pass through a bump or hump. I realise the gear remains at 3rd gear instead of 2nd gear, so i need to press slightly harder on pedal to get it going. Another example- when u going uphill, the gear will change very fast like 1st, 2nd, 3rd so there isn't enough power to go uphill. I need to press harder on the pedal to change 2nd gear and when i release abit on the pedal, it change back to 3rd gear. Is this normal to u all? Hope u all get what i mean. lol.
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Oic. Honestly I've not encountered any problem like this.
No sudden jerk or unstable rpm.
But as always, I'll experiment tonight nod.gif
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post Feb 5 2009, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Feb 5 2009, 07:25 AM)
Could this the reason ur FC is higher than the rest? Just guessing since it seems ur car is much "smoother" to drive ..  rclxub.gif  hmm.gif
When you mean FC is higher does it mean worst or better?
I think my FC isn't very good at the moment. It's partly due to alot of city (kl-traffic jam) driving, but I'm hoping it'll be better after the engine runs in.
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QUOTE(devinz @ Feb 5 2009, 09:23 AM)
Spotted PMM WSC **** on Kesas towards Klang..

Any bros here?  blush.gif
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I spotted a PMM E-Spec on the NPE just now on the way to KL
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