i dont think Palm will be able to beat iPhone

Did you actually watch the video presentation of the Palm Pre?

I am surprised you will still mentioned the bolded statement if you already watched it.

I won't go into interface or GUI as I think that subjective. But in terms of usability the Pre owned hands down.

heck even the upcoming SE Idou, based on new Symbian OS pose significant threat to iPhone GUI. iPhone is nice at it's smooth and seamless transition, I admit it's very good at moving the blocks and windows in iPhone.

Iphone itself is a very powerful hardware itself, but apple might intentionally blocked certain important features, so that users have to download from apps store, which creates a whole new market for programmers n developers, this is my logic

for example, apple blocked the mms feature, so they is already a demand there, developer develop apps(ie Swirlymms) to sell in appstore...in this case both developer n apple will profit from it, developer 70 apple 30, that's the cut applied

so its just my logic, lol

I hope this is not a repost but it is 17Mns long

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=palm...&oq=palm+&dur=2




This post has been edited by Nocrimes: Mar 4 2009, 11:17 PM

As we far as i know that, palm price is very bloody expensive and not worth the price to pay for and I would say that Iphone functionality is far better than palm....

heh? u sure swirlyMMS is on the apple store? i tot it was on 3rd party apps (cydia)???

do u know how much it is selling at? what kind of functionalities are u refering to?

the multi-touch is patented, and that's the reason why there's almost no other manufacturer that came up with multi-touch interface to avoid legal issue with apple. This includes google's android.

however, after reading one article posted at engadget, i believe the reason palm dare to take on the multi-touch game, simply because apple violated quite a few of palm's patent at the first place. And if apple is about to take them on court, palm may counter suit apple for the violations.

in terms of creativity and innovation, i believe palm is able to sing along with apple. its just that palm's management and marketing team is a group of monkeys when compared to apple.

...and u end up with rouge application such like this
there is no such thing as free lunch in this world my friend (except kenduri, party, etc). and u pay for what u get. free stuff isnt all great (but not necessarily expensive things got better quality, but u get the idea). btw there are also free jailbreak apps that do wonder for free. just like the apps from Android Marketplace and Apple AppStore. but only hope that there will be no rubbish app on Palm platform (I Am Rich for iPhone, I Am Richer for Android platform, to name a few)
...so? multitasking is multitasking, no matter it's jailbreak or not. it's not like u r breaking a jail literally.


except all the above, this time i have to agree with u. Apple is kinda draconian on approving apps, plus having some ridiculous rule upon halting apps from entering the store. and what's more, they came up with 'rules' just as the apps are evaluated by Apple. and the SDK restrictions is a big no for apps developer. but still, people are going to develop for iPhone as the market is really lucrative (as for now). and if the developers just cant nod with the SDK rules, they have another option which is Cydia Store (of course it needs jailbreak)

so if Palm is serious in app distribution market, then looks like they can learn a thing or two from Apple and Google apps marketing model. they should find a balance between being open and being secure.

btw for Palm, this is yet to be seen. hoping that Palm Pre to be a strong contender in smartphone market, and it will be great if it's also made available to our market. competition is good for everyone, while encouraging more new developers to pour their creativity to their work. it should be interesting.

the more the merrier.




This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Mar 13 2009, 10:51 AM

When I saw this thread yesterday, I go to youtube to search for video regarding Palm Pre. Frankly speaking la, I don't see where is the killer part yet. I am not sure why everyone is calling it an iPhone killer

but jailbreak programs does not provide u with the same level of quality and security like app store does. who knows, maybe one day u might end up with lousy applications like that from cydia too right?
and what do u mean by there is no free lunch. if i buy any other phone it comes with "free" mms capability, and "free" video recorder, and hassle "free" sms deletion and etc. or is apple intentionally trying to help ppl make money by coding softwares that provide basic phone functionalities.

do u have an iphone? if u do then u should know how it works and its a pain to have to go back and forth the home screen just do do a simple task. if u don't jailbreak the phone and enable mutitasking, then even IM programs doesn't run in the background when u go back to the home screen. that is not so with palm.

i'm pretty sure they'll end up doing something similar to app store, they mentioned it in their keynote. tho competition is always good for us consumers.

oh and btw, battery life sucks on iPhone if u don't turn off 3g and wifi. almost all the iphone users i know has got to charge their phone at least twice a day. i hope palm doesn't have these problems.

u have your choice (to jailbreak or not), u made your choice (to jailbreak or not), and u r ready to accept the consequences.
actually i'm not standing on any side either. that's why i said previously that Palm can find a balance between being secure and being open if they want their software store to be ultra successful.
but at least what i'm implying is, as u perform jailbreak, it's not Apple fault that u end up with rouge apps. but for the case of Google's Android, it's their fault letting that kind of app roaming in their Android Marketplace (luckily the software had been pulled after thousands of bad comments on the particular app)
Apple is becoming too protective with their iPhone OS, not willing to spill more into their SDK, while having some oppressive rules in making availability of apps into AppStore. but yeah it's secure.

myb. dont ask me, ask Apple.

yes, i used an iPhone previously (the 1st gen). already sold it in anticipation of the officially release iPhone 3G. but there is also probability that i'm holding off my purchase and wait for some more moons for the next iteration of iPhone.

"mommy mommy i cant multitask"
ok jokes aside, i'm just implying that either jailbreak or not, multitask is multitask. fair enough, it's not officially supported by Apple (for now), but u should know that not everyone needs multitask. do u want to open your messaging apps + IM + video playback + game + phone + documents reader + surfing the web + etc etc all in the same time? yup some people really want to, so they can opt for jailbreak. it's not like u r selling your soul for a jailbreak, and even u dont have to literally breaking a jail.
but yup, "multitasking" that's come with iPhone as it's virgin state should suffice. most people are only enjoying audio playback while doing some browsing. it's already adequate.
but yeah, i have to agree. as Palm can do real multitask (as demoed on Pre) it's a really great feature.

in fact they already have some kind of app distribution channel for the existing Palm lineup, catering both Palm OS and WinMo Palm. looks like a better application store is just an extension to their existing offering, which is also a good thing to be.

it's not like the battery dont suck if u dont turn off some battery-draining features on other devices (more specifically the smartphones). u should know already that battery technology is far behind from technological advances of computer architecture. it's common sense.


btw, hoping all the best from Palm. the Pre is a really promising platform. and hope that they still keep some secret that's yet to be unveiled, just for the launch of the phone. it's not always a good thing to spill everything before the release date right. so myb they'll surprise people again when the phone hit the market.

yeah i have to say this again. the more the merrier. u should already know what i mean.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Mar 14 2009, 04:31 AM