Microsoft is getting more2 bucks in, do you think they will give XBL for free like PS3 did
XBOX sales goes millions higher than PS3
XBOX sales goes millions higher than PS3
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Jan 7 2009, 03:49 PM, updated 17y ago
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Microsoft is getting more2 bucks in, do you think they will give XBL for free like PS3 did
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Jan 7 2009, 03:52 PM
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From now onward.. banned Coke, Colgate and Xbox.....camni lar...hahaha....
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Jan 7 2009, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(pakcikkantin @ Jan 7 2009, 03:49 PM) nope..i dont think so. they generate quite large number of cash with XBL, dont think they will make it free.furthermore, even with paid XBL, they still can outnumber PS3. |
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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Jan 7 2009, 03:55 PM) nope..i dont think so. they generate quite large number of cash with XBL, dont think they will make it free. Some more we have to pay, and others outside US, cannot buy the movies.furthermore, even with paid XBL, they still can outnumber PS3. Read alot in the NET, people will not go for PS3 , don't know what cause, but Gamespot really don't push PS3 |
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They earned it so they get to keep it. I'm a happy customer who happily let them earn my cash as long as the games keep coming in
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Jan 7 2009, 05:03 PM
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well when you got hardcore fans like these... it's no wonder
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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Jan 7 2009, 04:52 PM) bout the war?Yeah Banned Coke, Pepsi better! wkakak Anyway, well, I do hope they will make it free, later we can brag toward ps3 that always brag about free online stuff. But if they still charge us, they can use the money to add some more stuff.. faster connection maybe,tv show ++, or use it to research for Green-ray disc.. wkakakak more advance than blue~ Lol, nice picture! This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jan 7 2009, 05:18 PM |
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QUOTE(Evirober @ Jan 7 2009, 05:03 PM) well when you got hardcore fans like these... it's no wonder lol,would be awesome if the controller can be used to drive the car. http://www.2dayblog.com/2009/01/02/xbox-360-on-car/?lang=en |
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Jan 7 2009, 07:15 PM
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So, is it true then... that gamers buy 2 (or more) 360s instead of 1 - in the limelight of an RRoD... they send one for repair, play the other, then when get back, play the repaired unit until break again.... cycle repeats ?
What draws more and more ppl to buy a 360 even after the worldwide 'pandemic' of RRoD ? |
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Jan 7 2009, 07:38 PM
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Better games perhaps? And better online gaming.
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Just for the record I'm on my 3rd console.
My second is still dead, I'm only gonna RMA it near the end of its warranty. |
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JRPG is the asnwer.... Though I own a PS3, I still bought an XBOX360 due to JRPGs on this platform.
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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Jan 7 2009, 05:10 PM) bout the war? Faster connection?..U better hope our screamyx improve first..if not also no use Yeah Banned Coke, Pepsi better! wkakak Anyway, well, I do hope they will make it free, later we can brag toward ps3 that always brag about free online stuff. But if they still charge us, they can use the money to add some more stuff.. faster connection maybe,tv show ++, or use it to research for Green-ray disc.. wkakakak more advance than blue~ Lol, nice picture! Added on January 7, 2009, 8:03 pm QUOTE(Evirober @ Jan 7 2009, 05:03 PM) well when you got hardcore fans like these... it's no wonder i wonder wheres the screen to look at http://www.2dayblog.com/2009/01/02/xbox-360-on-car/?lang=en This post has been edited by steventanz: Jan 7 2009, 08:03 PM |
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Jan 7 2009, 08:13 PM
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Er, well.. ya, streamyx reli slow..
Im using 4mbs for the past year.. and change it to 1mb now, doesnt seem to be different in speed >_> This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jan 7 2009, 08:41 PM |
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Jan 7 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Hisyam91 @ Jan 7 2009, 08:13 PM) About the RRoD problem, caused by overheat, is mainly because the owner spent hours playing it non-stop with all the A+ game tittles. Wrong. Those who didn't play as much also got it.Here's the comeback, PS3 owner doesnt have any more games to play(finished all top games.. others are chump), so they turn it off.. therefore, no problem appear.. no overheat ++ Anyways you don't have to be so defensive, it was an honest question. |
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Jan 7 2009, 08:39 PM
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My bad, it was an honest answer too.. xD
I've got nothing to do now, letting my console cooldown.. So, i didnt mean to anger anyone ait(Sorry!).. |
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Jan 7 2009, 10:44 PM
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for ps3 im only waiting for GT5 cant resist GT5 temptation.
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jan 7 2009, 11:13 PM) Hmm... PS3 -> GT5. Xbox 360 - Forza 3 ? true. ppl want to play "next gen graphic" games but don't want to spend a lot.PS3 -> Killzone 2. Xbox 360 - Halo 3 ? I believe the Xbox 360 sells by the bucket load because of the price drops that occur and the killer titles available for it. |
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jan 7 2009, 11:13 PM) Hmm... PS3 -> GT5. Xbox 360 - Forza 3 ? dats why im not in a dilemma of choosing games in either consoles i have em both hehehehehe PS3 -> Killzone 2. Xbox 360 - Halo 3 ? I believe the Xbox 360 sells by the bucket load because of the price drops that occur and the killer titles available for it. |
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Jan 8 2009, 08:20 AM
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yeap same here... own both ^^
Whichever console that oni has its Exclusive Titles ill still be able to have it ^^ |
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Jan 8 2009, 10:56 AM
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Does PS3 have achievements unlocks like XBOX
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Jan 8 2009, 11:06 AM
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nope dun have, if im not mistaken
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Jan 8 2009, 11:45 AM
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even with the killer RROD its making that much sales?
MS shouldnt even be making money out of the units sold thanks 2 RROD |
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Jan 8 2009, 11:54 AM) even with the killer RROD its making that much sales? It's killer , but much reduced already Besides that , in countries with 360 officially launched , its just a matter of bringing back to service center and exchange 1 to 1 .MS shouldnt even be making money out of the units sold thanks 2 RROD |
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Jan 8 2009, 01:31 PM) It's killer , but much reduced already Besides that , in countries with 360 officially launched , its just a matter of bringing back to service center and exchange 1 to 1 . How about us, in Malaysia. Will they send their support here ...Just because the ahem2 games, they stop recognizing us as gamers... too bad RROD, you know it, we know it will or sooner happen, but people keep on buying XBOX... |
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QUOTE(pakcikkantin @ Jan 8 2009, 01:56 PM) How about us, in Malaysia. Will they send their support here ... You sure it's becasue of ahem games that prevent them from coming in Malaysia?Just because the ahem2 games, they stop recognizing us as gamers... too bad RROD, you know it, we know it will or sooner happen, but people keep on buying XBOX... I would rather think of because no one wanna be the dealer for xbox. At SG, the xbox division seems separated out from M$ Singapore.... So my guess is no dealer that fit the requirement & those with the requirement would not want to do so.... Just my good guess..... But, RRoD at MY we still can send to SG mah. not too far. Jsut need to pay for postage instead of M$ paying it... sadly the fee for one return postage = 1 year gold subscription If drive to SG i think cheaper still |
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QUOTE(navigator @ Jan 8 2009, 09:09 PM) You sure it's becasue of ahem games that prevent them from coming in Malaysia? What is your opinion,I would rather think of because no one wanna be the dealer for xbox. At SG, the xbox division seems separated out from M$ Singapore.... So my guess is no dealer that fit the requirement & those with the requirement would not want to do so.... Just my good guess..... But, RRoD at MY we still can send to SG mah. not too far. Jsut need to pay for postage instead of M$ paying it... sadly the fee for one return postage = 1 year gold subscription If drive to SG i think cheaper still 1. Buying a new XBOX 2. Repair current XBOX Both still leads to RROD.. but new one, can last longer |
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QUOTE(pakcikkantin @ Jan 9 2009, 08:53 AM) What is your opinion, I will only send the console to singapore for warranty claim for 3RRoD. no other solution I will consider for now unless someone announced with warranty that he can solve 3RRoD permanently1. Buying a new XBOX 2. Repair current XBOX Both still leads to RROD.. but new one, can last longer |
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aiya send to sg la.. after 3 years no more warranty beli baru...
I got both actually seem like my ps3 collecting dust... LOL just tht the ps3 games not really attract me much la.. compare xbox.. |
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After comparing PS3 & XBOX360, I would say the 360 would be the inferior consoles in terms of specifications as well as graphics quality. The 360 framerates is just not smooth (playing Lost Odyssey & yes I do own both consoles).
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QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Jan 9 2009, 06:00 PM) aiya send to sg la.. after 3 years no more warranty beli baru... Actually, PS3 is really a dust magnet ....dust caked up internally into the uber large heat dissipator/ Heat sink and report is on the wild.... clean it before you fire it up again I got both actually seem like my ps3 collecting dust... LOL just tht the ps3 games not really attract me much la.. compare xbox.. QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 9 2009, 10:19 PM) After comparing PS3 & XBOX360, I would say the 360 would be the inferior consoles in terms of specifications as well as graphics quality. The 360 framerates is just not smooth (playing Lost Odyssey & yes I do own both consoles). I would not agree, Look at how FUBARed is the Orange Box, Madden, GTA4 & Ridge Race 7 compared to xbox360 version. PS3 had a very confusing architecture for programmer and badly designed RAM architecture in terms of memory space. That bump up the difficulty for the machine from getting better framerate & texture compare. Although...... when you're steamed playing games, the do not possessed much difference except when you got network lag when you online. They both have their pros & cons and i admit the 3RRoD is bad compared to other problems PS3 had but please, xbox 360 is not inferior at all. This post has been edited by navigator: Jan 10 2009, 07:18 AM |
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 9 2009, 10:19 PM) After comparing PS3 & XBOX360, I would say the 360 would be the inferior consoles in terms of specifications as well as graphics quality. The 360 framerates is just not smooth (playing Lost Odyssey & yes I do own both consoles). Based on LO alone?What other games do you have? btw the loading times of LO is almost a nightmare if you don't install it to the HDD. |
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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Jan 10 2009, 06:21 PM) Based on LO alone? I know it's not right to compare a game which was released for 360 and not on the PS3. Graphics wise, LO is just ok, nothing to shout about. I am not a fanboy else I won't buy both the consoles. I just feel that graphics as well as CPU processing power, PS3 has the edge.What other games do you have? btw the loading times of LO is almost a nightmare if you don't install it to the HDD. Hideo Kojima should be right saying that MGS4 is unable to be ported over to the 360 due the reasons you and I know. cannavaro, I do play LO from HDD. Acceptable loading time This post has been edited by Thrust: Jan 10 2009, 06:30 PM |
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I agree on LO, it's nothing to shout about.
Have you tried Gears Of War 2? |
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 10 2009, 06:34 PM) Ya, I have GOW for WINDOWS and GOW2 for 360... technically, the windows version pawns the 360 also of coz. any games that has been out on PS3 and 360 will be pawned by PC version. you can't compare it that way.known fact that tho Cell is extremely powerful, it's surrounding architecture hinders developers to get the full benefit of it. bottlenecks in bus, slow RAM access, slow data transfer from Blu-ray device : everyone of these problems kills the potential of the processor being used 100%. reason why Kojima-san doesn't not want to port MGS4 to 360 is not because of the hardware. just that he doesn't not want to do it. simple as that. any games that's on PS3 can run with acceptable and playable quality on 360 : this is a fact. plus 50GB of data for MGS4 is mostly comprised of UNCOMPRESSED audio which can be compressed easily for DVD-9 release. heck i know a lot of ppl will still buy it if it comes in 2 disc (i would too). so really there's not much issue in terms of graphics on 360. LO is just a bad example. clearly the developers have not have enuff experience with Unreal Engine like most failed Unreal Engine-based games. check out the difference between graphics on PS3 and 360 version of Saints Row, GTA4, and even Burnout. and those are a few of handful multiplatform game that has been released in the wild. |
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 10 2009, 06:28 PM) I know it's not right to compare a game which was released for 360 and not on the PS3. Graphics wise, LO is just ok, nothing to shout about. I am not a fanboy else I won't buy both the consoles. I just feel that graphics as well as CPU processing power, PS3 has the edge. Yet GOW 2 is superior in terms of texture, no. of AI/enemies on screen, taking no hits in gfx department for multiplayer & coop (jump in jump out on the fly), practically no loading. The best part? It's DVD only... Hideo Kojima should be right saying that MGS4 is unable to be ported over to the 360 due the reasons you and I know. cannavaro, I do play LO from HDD. Acceptable loading time You play MGS4, you should know its gfx only excel in the form of cutscene but during gameplay it isn't "omg wow!". Uncharted would be a better choice for graphic showcase, don't you think so? Now lets discuss Haze and show ps3's power-less performance! Besides, there isn't a definite answer to whether ps3 will perform better in the gfx department yet unlike last gen where everyone know something as a fact. However there is a distinctive difference between Sony & MS 1st/2nd party game...Sony 1st party game tend to focus more on singleplayer cinematic experience while Microsoft 1st/2nd party game emphasize very much on the balance of singleplayer, coop & multiplayer. That's my 2 pennies, let me know if you agree or not. |
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 10 2009, 07:38 PM) Yet GOW 2 is superior in terms of texture, no. of AI/enemies on screen, taking no hits in gfx department for multiplayer & coop (jump in jump out on the fly), practically no loading. The best part? It's DVD only... agreed. a lot of ppl forgot the fact that MGS4 is 70% cutscene and 30% game. which is why to me it's absurd that the game won some "game of the year" award and nominations.You play MGS4, you should know its gfx only excel in the form of cutscene but during gameplay it isn't "omg wow!". Uncharted would be a better choice for graphic showcase, don't you think so? Now lets discuss Haze and show ps3's power-less performance! Besides, there isn't a definite answer to whether ps3 will perform better in the gfx department yet unlike last gen where everyone know something as a fact. However there is a distinctive difference between Sony & MS 1st/2nd party game...Sony 1st party game tend to focus more on singleplayer cinematic experience while Microsoft 1st/2nd party game emphasize very much on the balance of singleplayer, coop & multiplayer. That's my 2 pennies, let me know if you agree or not. and yes. i do agree that Sony's 1st party/exclusives titles are more limited to single player experience (uncharted, MGS4, Ratchet and Clank) while ALL MS's 1st party/exclusives will have a kick-ass online multiplayer portion of the game. heck you can even completely skip the single player mode and jump straight online (GOW 1 & 2, Halo series, even Fable 2). This post has been edited by technophile: Jan 10 2009, 07:50 PM |
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 10 2009, 07:45 PM) agreed. a lot of ppl forgot the fact that MGS4 is 70% cutscene and 30% game. which is why to me it's absurd that the game won some "game of the year" award and nominations. lol do not want to turn this into game bashing....GOTY is that game site's opinion, different site different opinion. There is nothing wrong with it... QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 10 2009, 07:45 PM) and yes. i do agree that Sony's 1st party/exclusives titles are more limited to single player experience (uncharted, MGS4, Ratchet and Clank) while ALL MS's 1st party/exclusives will have a kick-ass online multiplayer portion of the game. heck you can even completely skip the single player mode and jump straight online (GOW 1 & 2, Halo series, even Fable 2). That's not what I meant either! This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Jan 10 2009, 07:53 PM |
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 10 2009, 07:48 PM) lol do not want to turn this into game bashing....GOTY is that game site's opinion, different site different opinion. There is nothing wrong with it... hehehe. not bashing la. just stating out the obvious fact. ppl seem to think MGS4 is "the one and only game that defines PS3" since it came out when they totally forget that the game has more cinematics and dialogues of FF7 - FF12 combined. |
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 10 2009, 07:38 PM) Yet GOW 2 is superior in terms of texture, no. of AI/enemies on screen, taking no hits in gfx department for multiplayer & coop (jump in jump out on the fly), practically no loading. The best part? It's DVD only... Ya, MGS4 excel in cutscenes but those cut scenes are rendered in real time thus showcasing the PS3 RSX's graphics processing power You play MGS4, you should know its gfx only excel in the form of cutscene but during gameplay it isn't "omg wow!". Uncharted would be a better choice for graphic showcase, don't you think so? |
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In-game render or not, you still need a game or it would end up as a tech demo (Assasin Creed? lol. No, i love that game) Nvidia & Ati both have wonderful tech demo which was render using their card without worrying too much on AI, physics, multiplayer etc...in other words, cutscene only. It only matter the most to the developer. If it looks good, it's not like typical gamers gona care it's in-game or CG right? Only the few of us geek/hardcore will be interested on its spec.
So like you said, only developer will know. If it's a good game, it's a good game. Maybe for games like Gears need good gfx, otherwise chainsawing wouldn't be as satisfying. However not every game require jaw dropping gfx, there is a point of "good enough" or "good representation". It's a fact though Japanese developers are terrible with Unreal Engine |
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I read Playstation blogs and they did compare the price with XBOX, PS3 is cheaper than XBOX, that includes Blu ray, Free online, and built in wifi not like XBOX.
I just saw Resistance on PS3 using HDMi and get the maximum display output on Sony 32 LCD, and agree the graphics is clear, but lag, something is not right when playing the game? I never seen Fallout 3 on PS3 , but i think Fallout 3 is great on XBOX. Current XBOX still need more revision on the board it self and the heat problem ( eventhough MS denies it). Overall, great job on XBOX ( anyway still planning on buying PS3). PS3 still need to cut down the cost of the H/W itself. Another things , i noticed , all PS3 games reviewed on Gamesopt, get 9.0/10.0 unlike XBOX. This post has been edited by pakcikkantin: Jan 10 2009, 09:58 PM |
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 10 2009, 07:51 PM) hehehe. not bashing la. just stating out the obvious fact. ppl seem to think MGS4 is "the one and only game that defines PS3" since it came out when they totally forget that the game has more cinematics and dialogues of FF7 - FF12 combined. actually there is more gameplay on mgs4 than cutscenes...the only ones complaining about the cutscenes are those who never bothered to stealth and went run/gun mode on easier diffculty... if u actually went to combine both stealth and run/gun while exploring the areas the gameplay is pretty long... another thing mgs4 cutscene is interactive... u actually have gameplay elements in them... for example, the mission briefings, u can use the mk2 to explore around while the cutscene is played etc... u are actually playin the cutscene rather than jz watching... mgs4 is an experience more than a game which is why its been getting awards... u really feel the game and the emotions (especially if u played the other mgs)... u can listen to gamespot's podcast special where they rant about how awesome the experience is for 40 minutes+ when one of them dun even play the other series and still love the game... it is their argument for why they chose mgs4 as their GoTY... graphics wise on multiplatform titles, both consoles have their strengths n weakness... LO and last remnant are jz poor optimization on the unreal engine... GeoW2 has proved wut the 360 can offer in the right hands... 2008 however was nt really a good year for the 360 in terms of exclusive... hope forza3 really is out for 2009... the 360's biggest strength would be its online community which is unrivaled by sony... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 10 2009, 11:54 PM |
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 10 2009, 11:49 PM) ok, the name is Interactive cutscene?QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 10 2009, 11:49 PM) graphics wise on multiplatform titles, both consoles have their strengths n weakness... lol wut?LO and last remnant are jz poor optimization on the unreal engine... GeoW2 has proved wut the 360 can offer in the right hands... 2008 however was nt really a good year for the 360 in terms of exclusive... hope forza3 really is out for 2009... the 360's biggest strength would be its online community which is unrivaled by sony... |
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Jan 11 2009, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 10 2009, 06:28 PM) I know it's not right to compare a game which was released for 360 and not on the PS3. Graphics wise, LO is just ok, nothing to shout about. I am not a fanboy else I won't buy both the consoles. I just feel that graphics as well as CPU processing power, PS3 has the edge. The obvious reason is Kojima want the title to be exclusive to PS3. Himself admited before--Anything runs on PS3 now can run on xbox360 without any problem. Hideo Kojima should be right saying that MGS4 is unable to be ported over to the 360 due the reasons you and I know. cannavaro, I do play LO from HDD. Acceptable loading time Try to google that QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 10 2009, 09:10 PM) Ya, MGS4 excel in cutscenes but those cut scenes are rendered in real time thus showcasing the PS3 RSX's graphics processing power cutscene rendering is a preset animation which required minimum physics calculation compared to actual play. |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:43 AM
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The one thing I dun understand is Microsoft talking Blu-Ray only for movies and not storage capacity for games. They refuse Blu-Ray Add-on or even the format stating the priority is gaming and video/movie downloads. But what about storage ? Game developers can't possibly cram their next-gen titles into a single DVD ? Remember John Carmack's rant about the 360 - he claims the PS3 version of 'Rage' will look much better than the 360 because of the storage limitation (heavy compression methods used) on the 360 version...
Somewhere deep in Microsoft Xbox labs... are 'prototypes' of Xbox 3 / 720... and it could either have 1. Microsoft's own optical drive standard 2. A DVD drive. Yes. A DVD drive. 3. A Blu-Ray drive. The wise choice. I don't see it any other way... |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 10 2009, 07:45 PM) agreed. a lot of ppl forgot the fact that MGS4 is 70% cutscene and 30% game. which is why to me it's absurd that the game won some "game of the year" award and nominations. if u have played all the MGS series u wont be complaining about MGS4 bro hehehe and yes. i do agree that Sony's 1st party/exclusives titles are more limited to single player experience (uncharted, MGS4, Ratchet and Clank) while ALL MS's 1st party/exclusives will have a kick-ass online multiplayer portion of the game. heck you can even completely skip the single player mode and jump straight online (GOW 1 & 2, Halo series, even Fable 2). Added on January 11, 2009, 9:53 am QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jan 11 2009, 09:43 AM) The one thing I dun understand is Microsoft talking Blu-Ray only for movies and not storage capacity for games. They refuse Blu-Ray Add-on or even the format stating the priority is gaming and video/movie downloads. But what about storage ? Game developers can't possibly cram their next-gen titles into a single DVD ? Remember John Carmack's rant about the 360 - he claims the PS3 version of 'Rage' will look much better than the 360 because of the storage limitation (heavy compression methods used) on the 360 version... its not that ms dowan to take blu ray,sony is waiting when Ms will give up and pay them for use of blu ray rights on their console,when that happens sony will be king again.Somewhere deep in Microsoft Xbox labs... are 'prototypes' of Xbox 3 / 720... and it could either have 1. Microsoft's own optical drive standard 2. A DVD drive. Yes. A DVD drive. 3. A Blu-Ray drive. The wise choice. I don't see it any other way... This post has been edited by S4PH: Jan 11 2009, 09:53 AM |
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Jan 11 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jan 11 2009, 09:50 AM) if u have played all the MGS series u wont be complaining about MGS4 bro hehehe Err... you're basically saying Microsoft refuses to give in like Warner Bros. did to Sony ? You can't resist the future...Added on January 11, 2009, 9:53 am its not that ms dowan to take blu ray,sony is waiting when Ms will give up and pay them for use of blu ray rights on their console,when that happens sony will be king again. |
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Jan 11 2009, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 11 2009, 12:04 AM) lol it means that the cutscenese are interactive...after all most (not all) of the cutscenes are rendered with the in game engine... u dun jz watch the cutscenes but rather u can interact with it using the mk2, look around, pressed certain buttons for flashbacks etc... all those bashing on mgs4... when mgs4 'do' one day get ported to the 360 will be gone... hypocrites i would say... and yes kojima supported the ps3 with so much hints in mgs4 itself (though he did asked fans not to bug him for a 360 port)... he said its possible for the game to run on the 360... but how good it runs was never stated... as for 2008 is a bad year for 360 exclusives, the reviews and gaming awards shows it... GTA4 was IGN and Gamespot GoTY for the 360... MS's reason for not having a blueray drive for the 360 is pretty obvious: - - despite winning the format war, blueray have not overcame DVD's dominance - the cost for the add-on would be high costing the price advantage that the 360 have to be negated - the games/ gamers of the 360 do not require blueray now - royalty fees to sony LOL Added on January 11, 2009, 10:58 am QUOTE(navigator @ Jan 11 2009, 06:58 AM) The obvious reason is Kojima want the title to be exclusive to PS3. Himself admited before--Anything runs on PS3 now can run on xbox360 without any problem. as i've stated...Try to google that cutscene rendering is a preset animation which required minimum physics calculation compared to actual play. you are playing in the cutscenes... example during the mission briefing: - - u have a 3 way split screen (1 for cutscene, 1 for mk2 view, 1 for the camera) - u have the option to maximize one of the view at will - u can move the mk2 freely and if one of the other 2 views is looking at where the mk2 is, u can see the m2 - while using the mk2, u can interact with objects and the ppl This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 11 2009, 10:58 AM |
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Jan 11 2009, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jan 11 2009, 10:01 AM) Err... you're basically saying Microsoft refuses to give in like Warner Bros. did to Sony ? You can't resist the future... dats why ms created the nxe so they can compress all the data in a single dvd then when installed to hard drive we can enjoy the full detail of the game.Blu ray is still not of high importance to ms as not many games that utilise 50gb of space on the blu ray. |
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Jan 11 2009, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jan 11 2009, 11:05 AM) dats why ms created the nxe so they can compress all the data in a single dvd then when installed to hard drive we can enjoy the full detail of the game.Blu ray is still not of high importance to ms as not many games that utilise 50gb of space on the blu ray. ? No idea wat ur trying to say. Installing game to hard drive does not magically decompress texture quality and increase graphics resolution. |
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Jan 11 2009, 12:46 PM
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@evo, "Interactive Cutscene" is my statement, not a question. The ongoing discussion between Thrust & me is on the machines gfx capabilities but not the game quality, so... For game bashing or hardcore fanboyism, it's better to bring it outside whether you are on the ps3 or 360 boot camp. Please don't force me into...
![]() QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 10:46 AM) all those bashing on mgs4... when mgs4 'do' one day get ported to the 360 will be gone... hypocrites i would say... What goes around comes around. From "gamespot = Microsoft paid gaming site --> Gamespot is BIAS after a few ps3 games getting bad reviews --> Gamespot is awesome after 1 GOTY! --> Gamespot full of Sony Fanboys!" See the vicious cycle? It all happens in 2008, there are many in LYN who join in the fun too. Hypocrite calling hypocrite a hypocrite...nothing new. That's how the fanboy crumble, fanboyism is what fuel the console market. As for me I would respect an honest sensible fanboy more so than a fanboy in disguise, you see. QUOTE as for 2008 is a bad year for 360 exclusives, the reviews and gaming awards shows it... GTA4 was IGN and Gamespot GoTY for the 360...<-- Why stop there? However, the consumer are voting with their wallet for Wii games which top the chart with 360 & ps3 trailing behind. So if you ask me, it's a bad year for both ps3 & 360 I feel for you though because your gaming experience are dictated by the press & journalism. |
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Jan 11 2009, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 11 2009, 12:46 PM) @evo, "Interactive Cutscene" is my statement, not a question. The ongoing discussion between Thrust & me is on the machines gfx capabilities but not the game quality, so... For game bashing or hardcore fanboyism, it's better to bring it outside whether you are on the ps3 or 360 boot camp. Please don't force me into... i stopped because i'm nt a fanboy simple as that lol...![]() What goes around comes around. From "gamespot = Microsoft paid gaming site --> Gamespot is BIAS after a few ps3 games getting bad reviews --> Gamespot is awesome after 1 GOTY! --> Gamespot full of Sony Fanboys!" See the vicious cycle? It all happens in 2008, there are many in LYN who join in the fun too. Hypocrite calling hypocrite a hypocrite...nothing new. That's how the fanboy crumble, fanboyism is what fuel the console market. As for me I would respect an honest sensible fanboy more so than a fanboy in disguise, you see. Why stop there? However, the consumer are voting with their wallet for Wii games which top the chart with 360 & ps3 trailing behind. So if you ask me, it's a bad year for both ps3 & 360 I feel for you though because your gaming experience are dictated by the press & journalism. you as a mod should know better rather than provoking console fanboy war... sorry but i'm nt a tool as u hope i am to start a fanboy war... and to me, u jz lost my respect for u as a mod for trying to ignite fanboy war... jz stating a fact that has proven itself through 2 big gaming websites which is why i stated IGN as well and not only gamespot... and as david jaffe said, comparing a wii to a ps3 (and also the 360 in this context) is like comparing an apple to an orange... its jz mindless bashing of a good game by fanboys who dun get to play it and know nothing about it... when they do get to play it, they worship it like god... stating the obvious does not make u a hypocrite as u claimed... i think the previous mgs4 so called porting rumor to the 360 thread has already proved it (bashing mgs4 b4 the rumor, supporting it during the rumor and bashing after the rumor)... check my posts and slowly reflect... am i a gamer or a fanboy... you on the other hand... hmmm i dunno... threatening me when i'm defending a good game and not the console itself? how far has fanboyism goes over here? glad i learn a new thing today... ending a sentence with a question mark is a not a question but a statement... |
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Jan 11 2009, 01:18 PM
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Tsk tsk tsk... why all the argument... why can't we all just get along... PS3 gamers, Xbox 360 gamers, Wii gamers. If there were to be a comparison between platforms, there is no end to it. Its just like arguing whether... UFOs exist or not.
2009 - PS3's year 2009 - Xbox 360's year Both platforms are going to do considerably well. Its up to the consumer as to which platform he/she prefers or owns. |
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Jan 11 2009, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jan 11 2009, 01:18 PM) Tsk tsk tsk... why all the argument... why can't we all just get along... PS3 gamers, Xbox 360 gamers, Wii gamers. If there were to be a comparison between platforms, there is no end to it. Its just like arguing whether... UFOs exist or not. i was getting along talking about games (about how LO and LR are jz unreal engine issues while defending mgs4's cutscene) n why blueray would be bad for 360...2009 - PS3's year 2009 - Xbox 360's year Both platforms are going to do considerably well. Its up to the consumer as to which platform he/she prefers or owns. heck i even stated that 360's online community is better... then i get shot by a big shot lol... he even tried to brought up the wii LOL... forza3 still nt announced rite though i'm pretty sure it would be out this year for sure (especially with the rumored gt5)... the 2 halos gonna have a big battle with killzone2 with near close release dates... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 11 2009, 01:26 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 01:25 PM
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I beg your pardon, how am i provoking the fanboy war?
-2 gaming site, so you only pick the one that favors you? There are tons more out there - eurogamer, gamestrailer, your favourite VGA awards, 1up, x-play etc. I don't know where you get the idea it's a bad year for 360. That's still not fanboyism? -I know fighting fanboys will keep the spirit up & high, but who is bashing MGS4 here apart from techno? Threatening you? Sorry, I am merely pointing out your flaws of argument. If you disagree, you can always rebuked with facts or opinion but not misleading opinion as fact. How I am threatening you? QUOTE glad i learn a new thing today... ending a sentence with a question mark is a not a question but a statement... I supposed so? It's often use in an informal conversation. I have yet to master english language, sorry This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Jan 11 2009, 01:26 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 11 2009, 01:25 PM) I beg your pardon, how am i provoking the fanboy war? look back at ur post which i quote...-2 gaming site, so you only pick the one that favors you? There are tons more out there - eurogamer, gamestrailer, your favourite VGA awards, 1up, x-play etc. I don't know where you get the idea it's a bad year for 360. That's still not fanboyism? -I know fighting fanboys will keep the spirit up & high, but who is bashing MGS4 here apart from techno? Threatening you? Sorry, I am merely pointing out your flaws of argument. If you disagree, you can always rebuked with facts or opinion but not misleading opinion as fact. How I am threatening you? I supposed so? It's often use in an informal conversation. I have yet to master english language, sorry then u can see it pretty clearly where the so called threat is... i dun like to point out the obvious... again u dun expect me to quote all the websites especially when i need to dig all those websites jz to prove my point? on top of my head are ign and gamespot as these are the 2 main websites i go to (besides kotaku n magicbox)... i dun need to go all out to prove a point when i'm defending a game, not a console... i could go all out with pcgamer mag's top 10 games of 2008, the VGA which as u claimed would suit my points well as well... why didn't i? heck i even know a website that gave LBP GoTY... only fanboys would go all out to post everything! why would i say that GeoW2 is the best example of what the power of the 360 can bring when i'm looking to bash the console which i'm nt? i'm quoting those who have misconception about mgs4 and its cutscenes... what can be done during the cutscenes moment and how long is the game when played to the fullest which is falsely claimed... i dun remember bashing u in defence of mgs4 or any1 else (not even techno) ps: i dun see how that question mark would make it a statement... if i misunderstood ur statement, i appologized for it... Added on January 11, 2009, 1:51 pmps v2: i never said its a bad year for 360... i said not really a good year for 360 exclusives... and i sitll stand by it... u can never catch me rant about a 360 game from 2008... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 11 2009, 01:52 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 01:55 PM
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This will help you refresh your memory
If you still couldn't figure out why you are giving ppl an impression your a fanboy in disguise, give me a holler. I hate to list this out because it makes me look really stupid as if I need this to justify my investment in 360 VGA? Gears of War 2 won 2 awards...& left 4 dead for pc/360. Where your statistic come from? x-play - Fable 2 GOTY? Eurogamers - I will let you check out the top 50 yourself. Ask again if you insist that I list everything out for you. edit : I googled, here's the whole list for your viewing pleasure. Really, just check all the game sites yourself. Visit gamerankings if you really like for the average rating....You could even list out all the 360 exclusive above the rating of 8 as base since all of these matter so much to you. So, where do you get your whacky idea of 2008 360 exclusive = bad year & majority awards = ps3? I really don't see it, because to me it's pretty even! Edited 2 : er...you are quoting my whole post, so basically my whole post is a threat? Sound the alarm!!!!!! This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Jan 11 2009, 02:12 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 01:59 PM
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Syndicated game websites are lame mmmkay?
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Jan 11 2009, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 11 2009, 01:55 PM) This will help you refresh your memory i would not change something i never stated jz because u ask me to...If you still couldn't figure out why you are giving ppl an impression your a fanboy in disguise, give me a holler. I hate to list this out because it makes me look really stupid as if I need this to justify my investment in 360 VGA? Gears of War 2 won 2 awards...& left 4 dead for pc/360. Where your statistic come from? x-play - Fable 2 GOTY? Eurogamers - I will let you check out the top 50 yourself. Ask again if you insist that I list everything out for you. edit : I google, here's the whole list for your viewing pleasure. Really, just check all the game sites yourself. Visit gamerankings if you really like for the average rating....You could even list out all the 360 exclusive above the rating of 8 as base since all of these matter so much to you. So, where do you get your whacky idea of 360 = bad year & majority awards = ps3? I really don't see it, because to me it's pretty even! PS : ok you edit, change to "360 2008 exclusive = bad year" then. u are a mod, u can check my edit histroy... did i said bad year or did i said not really a good year... and all of this is about exclusives on the 360... again i never bash any 360 games as being bad/ worthless/ terrible etc... using ur list, u can see that its nt really a good year for the 360 when they were sweeping awards with GeoW back in 2007... as for the link history u post, that time was comparing console, not games... check and see if i said get the console to suit ur exclusive needs... check and see if i did claimed its jz to counter all to bad baseless remarks given to the 360... and in the thread itself, u shut me off by closign the thread once the 360 fanboys were speechless from the rebuke on their claims on: - - ps3 dun have good games - ps3 dun have online |
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Jan 11 2009, 02:29 PM
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I only do the moderating when I am free, at that point of time...That thread is meaningless and just spamming all the way, what do u want to rebuke after your last post @ Dec 24 2008, 10:36 PM Tell me because I see nothing, you are free to do it now if you believe it's unfair to you. Don't you think I am doing you a favour by shutting out the "xbots" chance of countering you?
I am not even gona point out the irony of your fanboy post in that thread which contradict your points here. However, do tell if you think I am just making things up. QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 02:13 PM) i would not change something i never stated jz because u ask me to... The edit was refering to your new edited post as I was typing & previewing.u are a mod, u can check my edit histroy... did i said bad year or did i said not really a good year... and all of this is about exclusives on the 360... again i never bash any 360 games as being bad/ worthless/ terrible etc... using ur list, u can see that its nt really a good year for the 360 when they were sweeping awards with GeoW back in 2007... QUOTE ps v2: i never said it.... @bolded part. It can only be better competition either from the same or different platform, but I still don't get your "majority of awards go to ps3" "2008 bad year for 360 exclusive"? If you wana bring the fanboy war to next level, look closely at all the media awards. There are actually more awards for 360 games...but multi-platform games are the one sweeping awards. I think your point of argument are backfiring on you. This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Jan 11 2009, 02:44 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 11 2009, 02:29 PM) I only do the moderating when I am free, at that point of time...That thread is meaningless and just spamming all the way, what do u want to rebuke after your last post @ Dec 24 2008, 10:36 PM Tell me because I see nothing, you are free to do it now if you believe it's unfair to you. I am not even gona point out the irony of your fanboy post in that thread which contradict your points here. However, do tell if you think I am just making things up. once again...The edit was refering to your new edited post as I was typing & previewing. @bolded part. It can only be better competition either from the same or different platform, but I still don't get your "majority of awards go to ps3" "2008 bad year for 360 exclusive"? If you wana bring the fanboy war to next level, look closely at all the media awards. There are actually more awards for 360 games...but multi-platform games are the one sweeping awards. I think your point of argument are backfiring on you. i never said its a bad year for 360... i said not really a good year for the 360... its the 3rd time i'm repeating this if i'm nt mistaken... as for the other thread, why i nvr chose to pursue it? i'm nt that petty... i've already stated my claims that the ps3 bad as some claimed it is... i never said its superior over the 360 in any way... if i do, u wont see me defending games like fable2, GeoW2 etc... i've even defended fable 2 when some guy quoted the SDF article on fable 2 and i'm labeled as fanboy? just look at wut i've posted so far in this thread and u can pretty much see it clearly... do remember this is xbox subforum, don't u think i will get shot to oblivion if i'm a sony fanboy? Added on January 11, 2009, 2:48 pmps on ur edited part: i am aware some of the points may backfire, but i'm nt looking for an argument here but rather a discussion... thus i posted them... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 11 2009, 02:48 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jan 11 2009, 09:50 AM) if u have played all the MGS series u wont be complaining about MGS4 bro hehehe i did. played all including the 8 bit ones. and for the longest time i thought MGS2 was crap because it was full of "story". until i played MGS4.Added on January 11, 2009, 9:53 am its not that ms dowan to take blu ray,sony is waiting when Ms will give up and pay them for use of blu ray rights on their console,when that happens sony will be king again. |
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Jan 11 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 11 2009, 03:04 PM) i did. played all including the 8 bit ones. and for the longest time i thought MGS2 was crap because it was full of "story". until i played MGS4. i jz notice MTG in ur siggy O.ostill playing? actually mgs4 really complete the plotholes in every mgs perfectly... |
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Jan 11 2009, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 03:06 PM) i jz notice MTG in ur siggy O.o yup. almost everyday. still playing? actually mgs4 really complete the plotholes in every mgs perfectly... if MGS4 were a hollywood movie, being the last one in the quintology, critics will call it as rushed with erratic pacing. why? because it tries hard to resolve everything that's been done thru out the series within this one movie. |
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Jan 11 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 11 2009, 03:10 PM) yup. almost everyday. actually i find mgs4 did a really good job...if MGS4 were a hollywood movie, being the last one in the quintology, critics will call it as rushed with erratic pacing. why? because it tries hard to resolve everything that's been done thru out the series within this one movie. everything ended really well (though i'm nt really fond of th ending after the credits)... cool maybe next time can play mtg wit u XD |
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Jan 11 2009, 03:12 PM
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only becoz xbox can play 'ahem' stuff. period.
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Jan 11 2009, 03:14 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(yojimbo512 @ Jan 11 2009, 03:12 PM) lol. brainless.so you are saying that millions new 360 users will pirate their games? do you even know how hard it is to pirate a game outside asia? especially in the US where most ppl are not that IT savvy? if you are smart, you will know that in any product, price point will make a difference. normal layman will look at ps3's games and compare it with 360's and say they look identical. then they compare the pricing of the machines. 360 looks more appealing since it's cheaper. that's why it's selling more than ps3. of coz you get ppl who don't care about graphics and just look at the price, the Wii buyers. if you don't have anything good to add to the thread, please stick to your ps3 forum. coming in here and posting one liner makes you look like a retard. period. Added on January 11, 2009, 3:19 pm QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 03:12 PM) actually i find mgs4 did a really good job... i'm always in Manawerks, SS14 PJ.everything ended really well (though i'm nt really fond of th ending after the credits)... cool maybe next time can play mtg wit u XD like once every other day. hehehhe.. look for me there. i dun have a deck tho.. i just draft. This post has been edited by technophile: Jan 11 2009, 03:19 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 03:20 PM
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"Bad year" or "not really a good year compare to ps3"...how much difference can it be with the whole context of your post when...the most obvious one:
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 24 2008, 07:09 PM) gamespot is owned by cnet (which is under microsoft) and over the past years been very bias to the xbox (see their resistance 2 preview) and yet this year, ps3 titles been doing great... 1.Backfired. 2.Fanboyism traits - if the game site agree with you, it's neutral. If it doesn't, it's bias. Along with other post of yours, this is why you have a suggestive title of fanboy in disguise. No offense. You really can't blame anyone with that kinda post of yours. QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 02:47 PM) as for the other thread, why i nvr chose to pursue it? Actually, on that thread you are the one that keep pursuing while others have already stop replying or even care. I gave you a hint but it seems that my awesome manglish failed to send the message.i'm nt that petty... BTW, what makes you think "xbots" here must shoot you down in the xbox subforum There might be lots of "rumours" about xbots bashing mgs4 or ps3 but i dare say most of it are imaginary. At least the one who are active on forum/xbl. Fanboy in a fight is the only way to keep their spirit burning. There are new & old trolls alike everywhere else, it's not a 360 exclusive Sorry if I sound like a threat to you, but I am just a keyboard warrior and I have no intention of threatening anyone. As for others, you & I are only clowns to them. Carry on or you can contribute to this thread by answering the TS TS question. |
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Jan 11 2009, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jan 11 2009, 03:20 PM) "Bad year" or "not really a good year compare to ps3"...how much difference can it be with the whole context of your post when...the most obvious one: lol that was other thread...1.Backfired. 2.Fanboyism traits - if the game site agree with you, it's neutral. If it doesn't, it's bias. Along with other post of yours, this is why you have a suggestive title of fanboy in disguise. No offense. You really can't blame anyone with that kinda post of yours. Actually, on that thread you are the one that keep pursuing while others have already stop replying or even care. I gave you a hint but it seems that my awesome manglish failed to send the message. BTW, what makes you think "xbots" here must shoot you down in the xbox subforum There might be lots of "rumours" about xbots bashing mgs4 or ps3 but i dare say most of it are imaginary. At least the one who are active on forum/xbl. Fanboy in a fight is the only way to keep their spirit burning. There are new & old trolls alike everywhere else, it's not a 360 exclusive Sorry if I sound like a threat to you, but I am just a keyboard warrior and I have no intention of threatening anyone. As for others, you & I are only clowns to them. Carry on or you can contribute to this thread by answering the TS TS question. if u didnt notice, in the resistance 2 preview, the editor claimed that the hedgebomb in resistance 2 is copied from halo 2 or halo 3 (u can check all the flames to that editor and last i heard, he was fired or something after a long time)... that's when i started labeling gamespot as bias and yet i got shot a fanboy? lol... and yes, despite gamespot being bias, it gave ps3 games good reviews this year as well as 360 games (fable2n GeoW2)... thus i stand by my claimed that ps3 exclusives has already made a turnaround having a better year thus a not really good year for the 360 exclusives... though it puzzled me, why are u sitll digging that thread lol... that time the ps3 was under heavy fire lol and i think i stated it very clear, it was jz to defend the ps3... besides again after giving my facts and some minor 'resistance', the rest of them could not come out with a counter argument to backed their claims on the ps3 suckiness... and with the thread closed, the whole 'if' scenario is in question now which is of course too late... cause the locking came after my challenge which is a result of their silence after getting shot with facts that the ps3 does not suck... if u still regard me a fanboy its up to u... i'll defend whichever console under atk (u can check my post history, i've defended the 360, ps3 and the wii as well)... and if u notice, i never actually bash any games (other than casual games and some mmorpg lol)... if u want me to answer the TS, there is no need for me to... the others have already answered no which i agreeed... if ppl are already happily paying u, do u want them to stop paying? oh ya, u are not a threat to me... threatening and being a threat is a different thing... though i wont pursue this issue any further... @ techno i'm in pg now... and i nvr went manawex b4 till nw... mostly playing in prereleases/ releases and regionals only... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 11 2009, 03:41 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 04:14 PM
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So much love in the air
Anyways lemme grab some popcorn... |
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Jan 11 2009, 04:14 PM
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to each his own...for God's sake, to each his own this topic isn't even flameworthy honestly. just fanboyism taken to another pointless fanboyism level. U say bad year for xbox? Fine, I'll go play GOW2 or <insert nice xbox game> U say bad year for ps3? Fine, I'll go play Resistance 2 or <insert nice ps3 game> see the pattern? never-ending right? It's not even worth fighting anymore ler. Countless "Whic betta? Ps3 or xbox?" threads are around to the point it's not even disgusting anymore. I just accept the fact that fanboyism is a disease and we must be pitiful to those who have it. take for example the worst victim of fanboyism, lightning69. Pity him lar. Obviously suffering for a long time edi. Last time I flame him, but now I think better I sympathize him. That goes for all of you out there: To those who are lucky enough to be immune to fanboyism, lend a helping hand to those who are not. "Only a life lived for others is worth living" - Albert Einstein |
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Jan 11 2009, 04:43 PM
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the company dont even pay u fanboyans !! and they didnt know u existed !
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Jan 11 2009, 04:44 PM
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so what? ms still hates malaysian xboxer. region lock b****es!
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Jan 11 2009, 04:44 PM
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i hope XBL card price will go down..
man its too mahal.. |
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Jan 11 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 11 2009, 03:17 PM) lol. brainless. woa, i'm feelin the love here alreadyso you are saying that millions new 360 users will pirate their games? do you even know how hard it is to pirate a game outside asia? especially in the US where most ppl are not that IT savvy? if you are smart, you will know that in any product, price point will make a difference. normal layman will look at ps3's games and compare it with 360's and say they look identical. then they compare the pricing of the machines. 360 looks more appealing since it's cheaper. that's why it's selling more than ps3. of coz you get ppl who don't care about graphics and just look at the price, the Wii buyers. if you don't have anything good to add to the thread, please stick to your ps3 forum. coming in here and posting one liner makes you look like a retard. period. . "especially in the US where most ppl are not that IT savvy?" WTF? but surely, you can't deny that being able to run 'backup' games does contribute towards better sales. too bad they never post up statistics on the most downloaded/torrented/rapidshared games. but once they break bluray's encrytions, then we'll talk. but for now i stand my ground. and put out that flame will ya? |
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Jan 11 2009, 04:52 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(yojimbo512 @ Jan 11 2009, 04:48 PM) woa, i'm feelin the love here already it is already broken.... "especially in the US where most ppl are not that IT savvy?" WTF? but surely, you can't deny that being able to run 'backup' games does contribute towards better sales. too bad they never post up statistics on the most downloaded/torrented/rapidshared games. but once they break bluray's encrytions, then we'll talk. but for now i stand my ground. and put out that flame will ya? i know some blueray videos being copied to DVD-9 lol... jz that piracy for blueray will never happen due to the cost of a blueray disc... it will stay that for a long time till blueray is finally able to rival DVDs... still ur reasoning on piracy helping sales wont really matter overseas... they are really strict overseas especially US... unless of course you are: - ![]() as for XBL... i think the price is pretty standard since its US-based... is it cheaper buying it on9 with credit card? This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 11 2009, 04:54 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 05:24 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 05:46 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(yojimbo512 @ Jan 11 2009, 04:48 PM) woa, i'm feelin the love here already come let's talk.. "especially in the US where most ppl are not that IT savvy?" WTF? but surely, you can't deny that being able to run 'backup' games does contribute towards better sales. too bad they never post up statistics on the most downloaded/torrented/rapidshared games. but once they break bluray's encrytions, then we'll talk. but for now i stand my ground. and put out that flame will ya? http://www.techspot.com/news/24166-bluray-...n-bypassed.html http://www.dailytech.com/Bluray+Encryption...article5795.htm http://www.drmwatch.com/ocr/article.php/3736741 http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/4...randed-obsolete and as for statistics.. http://isohunt.com/stats.php?mode=zg this statistics is updated daily.. but for today.. check out what's on number 10 (pc games), 23 (wii), 56 (ps2) and 93 (nintendo ds). hmm.. i wonder where's xbox 360.. oppsss... there ya go, number 137 in the list of most search phrases. This post has been edited by technophile: Jan 11 2009, 06:02 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 06:32 PM
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pirated blueray do exist in msia in the form of DVD-9!
my fren saw them selling it in ipoh lol... (yes its in HD as well) |
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Jan 11 2009, 07:02 PM
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thanks for the enlightenment guys. but the dvd-9 version still don't match up to those ori bluray ones.
but it still kills me to see, what if there's 'ahem' blurays games. |
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Jan 11 2009, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(yojimbo512 @ Jan 11 2009, 07:02 PM) thanks for the enlightenment guys. but the dvd-9 version still don't match up to those ori bluray ones. its only possible for movies (1 hour)...but it still kills me to see, what if there's 'ahem' blurays games. my fren tested it and a one hour show is 9gig!!! so piracy in blueray media is pretty much impossible for large content... u are rite on that ^^ |
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Jan 11 2009, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 11 2009, 03:17 PM) do you even know how hard it is to pirate a game outside asia? especially in the US where most ppl are not that IT savvy? Erm piracy in the US is easy. The only difference is that games aren't openly sold, so you have to download or whatever. The only reason piracy is less rampant there is because of economics. A single 8-hour shift at McD's and you can already buy 1-2 new games, if the ratio for game prices here in MY is similar, we'd have a hugely low piracy rate too. [edit] not to mention game rentals ... when I was there I had a gamefly account, can't remember the price anymore but it was ~$20 a month for unlimited 2-games-at-a-time rentals. What's the point in pirating when playing original is already so cheap? But now back in MY ... zomg, 160bucks per game? That's almost 2 days of a starting salary for a degree-holder ... Added on January 11, 2009, 7:50 pm QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 07:12 PM) its only possible for movies (1 hour)... my fren tested it and a one hour show is 9gig!!! I've seen dvd-9 pirated discs at a shop near my house. I don't think it's real HD, probably a rip of some sort (lower bitrate for the video or audio or both). I mean, quick google shows that blu-ray pirates of the caribbean is 46gb ... if you full copy to dvd-9 also need 5 discs, hehe. This post has been edited by deodorant: Jan 11 2009, 07:56 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 11 2009, 07:45 PM) Erm piracy in the US is easy. The only difference is that games aren't openly sold, so you have to download or whatever. actually, they jz rip off the 1 hour performance which is 1 hour...The only reason piracy is less rampant there is because of economics. A single 8-hour shift at McD's and you can already buy 1-2 new games, if the ratio for game prices here in MY is similar, we'd have a hugely low piracy rate too. [edit] not to mention game rentals ... when I was there I had a gamefly account, can't remember the price anymore but it was ~$20 a month for unlimited 2-games-at-a-time rentals. What's the point in pirating when playing original is already so cheap? But now back in MY ... zomg, 160bucks per game? That's almost 2 days of a starting salary for a degree-holder ... Added on January 11, 2009, 7:50 pm I've seen dvd-9 pirated discs at a shop near my house. I don't think it's real HD, probably a rip of some sort (lower bitrate for the video or audio or both). I mean, quick google shows that blu-ray pirates of the caribbean is 46gb ... if you full copy to dvd-9 also need 5 discs, hehe. my fren was curious so he decided to try it... it is 1080p on his laptop... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jan 11 2009, 07:58 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 06:32 PM) pirated blueray do exist in msia in the form of DVD-9! actually, pirated bluray movies do exist (in the form of 25gb single-layer discs). but the prices are so ridiculously highmy fren saw them selling it in ipoh lol... (yes its in HD as well) This post has been edited by sieg_wahrheit: Jan 11 2009, 08:15 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 08:18 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(yojimbo512 @ Jan 11 2009, 07:02 PM) thanks for the enlightenment guys. but the dvd-9 version still don't match up to those ori bluray ones. well what we are seeing now is the repeat of previous thing.but it still kills me to see, what if there's 'ahem' blurays games. before this we have dvd rip sold to vcds. now blu ray rip sold on dvds. trust me, by the time dual layer rewritable blu ray media hits 40 ringgit, pirated PS3 games will be rampant. at the current price of 90 ringgit it's not feasible yet to pirate the damn thing. the technology is there. just the media is too expensive. |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:36 PM
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LOL the movie have finished? and i just got here...
QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 11 2009, 09:27 PM) well what we are seeing now is the repeat of previous thing. by the time dual layer rewritable blu ray media become affordable and pirated ps3 games exists, can we label all ps3 owners as playing "ahems" games?before this we have dvd rip sold to vcds. now blu ray rip sold on dvds. trust me, by the time dual layer rewritable blu ray media hits 40 ringgit, pirated PS3 games will be rampant. at the current price of 90 ringgit it's not feasible yet to pirate the damn thing. the technology is there. just the media is too expensive. don't quote me if want to give serious answer. i'm too old to have a debate. |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 11 2009, 09:36 PM) LOL the movie have finished? and i just got here... need to see can the ps3 be modded yet?by the time dual layer rewritable blu ray media become affordable and pirated ps3 games exists, can we label all ps3 owners as playing "ahems" games? don't quote me if want to give serious answer. i'm too old to have a debate. |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:41 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 11 2009, 09:41 PM) i don't think there's a need for modding. if that's true, then it take around 2 years i guess...look at youtube. tons of videos on how to bypass the security check on ps3. DVD is still going strong while blueray is sitll nt the standard yet... still original is the better buy for the free online services... |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:55 PM
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when i say "pirated ps3 games exists" basically it also implies that there will be ps3 that able to play pirated games rite?
come on people, try to get into the groove.. move your body, shake it! shake it! ![]() skuad rimau kejora! (a.k.a xbots) bersedia semua! tembak! |
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Jan 11 2009, 10:10 PM
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WTH is that? Looks like Halo...
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 03:40 PM) lol I am not gona continue this because it's getting ridiculous but if you really want me to keep pointing out what went wrong with your post above, give a shout out as I am gona have my lunch & do some of my stuff first. |
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Jan 12 2009, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 11 2009, 09:55 PM) when i say "pirated ps3 games exists" basically it also implies that there will be ps3 that able to play pirated games rite? ROFLcome on people, try to get into the groove.. move your body, shake it! shake it! ![]() skuad rimau kejora! (a.k.a xbots) bersedia semua! tembak! "Ratatata....Ratatata..." "RRRRR...." |
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Jan 12 2009, 10:32 AM
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wats the point of modding the ps3 still not many exclusives to play,not worth the time to hack it.
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Just to bump the thread on a good sunday morning.
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