true. ppl want to play "next gen graphic" games but don't want to spend a lot.

of coz. any games that has been out on PS3 and 360 will be pawned by PC version. you can't compare it that way.

known fact that tho Cell is extremely powerful, it's surrounding architecture hinders developers to get the full benefit of it. bottlenecks in bus, slow RAM access, slow data transfer from Blu-ray device : everyone of these problems kills the potential of the processor being used 100%.

reason why Kojima-san doesn't not want to port MGS4 to 360 is not because of the hardware. just that he doesn't not want to do it. simple as that.

any games that's on PS3 can run with acceptable and playable quality on 360 : this is a fact. plus 50GB of data for MGS4 is mostly comprised of UNCOMPRESSED audio which can be compressed easily for DVD-9 release. heck i know a lot of ppl will still buy it if it comes in 2 disc (i would too).

so really there's not much issue in terms of graphics on 360.

LO is just a bad example. clearly the developers have not have enuff experience with Unreal Engine like most failed Unreal Engine-based games. check out the difference between graphics on PS3 and 360 version of Saints Row, GTA4, and even Burnout. and those are a few of handful multiplatform game that has been released in the wild.

agreed. a lot of ppl forgot the fact that MGS4 is 70% cutscene and 30% game. which is why to me it's absurd that the game won some "game of the year" award and nominations.

and yes. i do agree that Sony's 1st party/exclusives titles are more limited to single player experience (uncharted, MGS4, Ratchet and Clank) while ALL MS's 1st party/exclusives will have a kick-ass online multiplayer portion of the game. heck you can even completely skip the single player mode and jump straight online (GOW 1 & 2, Halo series, even Fable 2).

This post has been edited by technophile: Jan 10 2009, 07:50 PM

hehehe. not bashing la. just stating out the obvious fact. ppl seem to think MGS4 is "the one and only game that defines PS3" since it came out when they totally forget that the game has more cinematics and dialogues of FF7 - FF12 combined.

i did. played all including the 8 bit ones. and for the longest time i thought MGS2 was crap because it was full of "story". until i played MGS4.

yup. almost everyday.
if MGS4 were a hollywood movie, being the last one in the quintology, critics will call it as rushed with erratic pacing.
why? because it tries hard to resolve everything that's been done thru out the series within this one movie.

lol. brainless.
so you are saying that millions new 360 users will pirate their games?
do you even know how hard it is to pirate a game outside asia?
especially in the US where most ppl are not that IT savvy?

if you are smart, you will know that in any product, price point will make a difference.
normal layman will look at ps3's games and compare it with 360's and say they look identical.
then they compare the pricing of the machines.
360 looks more appealing since it's cheaper.

that's why it's selling more than ps3.

of coz you get ppl who don't care about graphics and just look at the price, the Wii buyers.

if you don't have anything good to add to the thread, please stick to your ps3 forum.
coming in here and posting one liner makes you look like a retard. period.

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like once every other day.
hehehhe.. look for me there.
i dun have a deck tho.. i just draft.

This post has been edited by technophile: Jan 11 2009, 03:19 PM

come let's talk.

http://www.techspot.com/news/24166-bluray-...n-bypassed.html

http://www.dailytech.com/Bluray+Encryption...article5795.htm

http://www.drmwatch.com/ocr/article.php/3736741

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/4...randed-obsolete

and as for statistics..

http://isohunt.com/stats.php?mode=zg

this statistics is updated daily.. but for today.. check out what's on number 10 (pc games), 23 (wii), 56 (ps2) and 93 (nintendo ds).
hmm.. i wonder where's xbox 360..
oppsss... there ya go, number 137 in the list of most search phrases.

This post has been edited by technophile: Jan 11 2009, 06:02 PM

well what we are seeing now is the repeat of previous thing.
before this we have dvd rip sold to vcds.
now blu ray rip sold on dvds.

trust me, by the time dual layer rewritable blu ray media hits 40 ringgit, pirated PS3 games will be rampant.
at the current price of 90 ringgit it's not feasible yet to pirate the damn thing.

the technology is there. just the media is too expensive.

i don't think there's a need for modding.
look at youtube. tons of videos on how to bypass the security check on ps3.