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PrivateJohn
post Jan 10 2009, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 10 2009, 06:28 PM)
I know it's not right to compare a game which was released for 360 and not on the PS3. Graphics wise, LO is just ok, nothing to shout about. I am not a fanboy else I won't buy both the consoles. I just feel that graphics as well as CPU processing power, PS3 has the edge.

Hideo Kojima should be right saying that MGS4 is unable to be ported over to the 360 due the reasons you and I know.
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cannavaro, I do play LO from HDD. Acceptable loading time tongue.gif
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Yet GOW 2 is superior in terms of texture, no. of AI/enemies on screen, taking no hits in gfx department for multiplayer & coop (jump in jump out on the fly), practically no loading. The best part? It's DVD only... biggrin.gif

You play MGS4, you should know its gfx only excel in the form of cutscene but during gameplay it isn't "omg wow!". Uncharted would be a better choice for graphic showcase, don't you think so?

Now lets discuss Haze and show ps3's power-less performance! laugh.gif At the end of the day, PC pwns everyone...the most expensive rig out there, yet more & more developer are taking less advantage of its spec with Crysis being the last of the remnant, Blizzard is gameplay focus, Valve still squeezing its HL2 engine, Epic a console-centric company now, id software..quiet. Why? Console gamers buy more games... sweat.gif
Besides, there isn't a definite answer to whether ps3 will perform better in the gfx department yet unlike last gen where everyone know something as a fact.

However there is a distinctive difference between Sony & MS 1st/2nd party game...Sony 1st party game tend to focus more on singleplayer cinematic experience while Microsoft 1st/2nd party game emphasize very much on the balance of singleplayer, coop & multiplayer. That's my 2 pennies, let me know if you agree or not. smile.gif
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post Jan 10 2009, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 10 2009, 07:45 PM)
agreed. a lot of ppl forgot the fact that MGS4 is 70% cutscene and 30% game. which is why to me it's absurd that the game won some "game of the year" award and nominations.
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lol do not want to turn this into game bashing....GOTY is that game site's opinion, different site different opinion. There is nothing wrong with it... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(technophile @ Jan 10 2009, 07:45 PM)
and yes. i do agree that Sony's 1st party/exclusives titles are more limited to single player experience (uncharted, MGS4, Ratchet and Clank) while ALL MS's 1st party/exclusives will have a kick-ass online multiplayer portion of the game. heck you can even completely skip the single player mode and jump straight online (GOW 1 & 2, Halo series, even Fable 2).
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That's not what I meant either! doh.gif laugh.gif

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post Jan 10 2009, 09:52 PM

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In-game render or not, you still need a game or it would end up as a tech demo (Assasin Creed? lol. No, i love that game) Nvidia & Ati both have wonderful tech demo which was render using their card without worrying too much on AI, physics, multiplayer etc...in other words, cutscene only. It only matter the most to the developer. If it looks good, it's not like typical gamers gona care it's in-game or CG right? Only the few of us geek/hardcore will be interested on its spec.

So like you said, only developer will know. If it's a good game, it's a good game. Maybe for games like Gears need good gfx, otherwise chainsawing wouldn't be as satisfying. However not every game require jaw dropping gfx, there is a point of "good enough" or "good representation".
It's a fact though Japanese developers are terrible with Unreal Engine laugh.gif Ace Combat, Capcoms's game or even Blue Dragon seems to be doing fine with their own engine. Have you check out Resident Evil 5 demo? Looks good....but not my cup of tea tongue.gif


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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 10 2009, 11:49 PM)
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ok, the name is Interactive cutscene?
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 10 2009, 11:49 PM)
graphics wise on multiplatform titles, both consoles have their strengths n weakness...
LO and last remnant are jz poor optimization on the unreal engine...
GeoW2 has proved wut the 360 can offer in the right hands...
2008 however was nt really a good year for the 360 in terms of exclusive...
hope forza3 really is out for 2009...
the 360's biggest strength would be its online community which is unrivaled by sony...
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lol wut?
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post Jan 11 2009, 12:46 PM

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@evo, "Interactive Cutscene" is my statement, not a question. The ongoing discussion between Thrust & me is on the machines gfx capabilities but not the game quality, so... For game bashing or hardcore fanboyism, it's better to bring it outside whether you are on the ps3 or 360 boot camp. Please don't force me into...user posted image

QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 10:46 AM)
all those bashing on mgs4...
when mgs4 'do' one day get ported to the 360 will be gone...
hypocrites i would say...

What goes around comes around. From "gamespot = Microsoft paid gaming site --> Gamespot is BIAS after a few ps3 games getting bad reviews --> Gamespot is awesome after 1 GOTY! --> Gamespot full of Sony Fanboys!"

See the vicious cycle? It all happens in 2008, there are many in LYN who join in the fun too. Hypocrite calling hypocrite a hypocrite...nothing new. That's how the fanboy crumble, fanboyism is what fuel the console market. As for me I would respect an honest sensible fanboy more so than a fanboy in disguise, you see.


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as for 2008 is a bad year for 360 exclusives, the reviews and gaming awards shows it...
GTA4 was IGN and Gamespot GoTY for the 360...<--

Why stop there? biggrin.gif I would also like to see your source of bad years for 360 because from my FBI source, it's pretty well spread out for all 3 platform. (unless your source is SDF, lol)
However, the consumer are voting with their wallet for Wii games which top the chart with 360 & ps3 trailing behind. So if you ask me, it's a bad year for both ps3 & 360 laugh.gif

I feel for you though because your gaming experience are dictated by the press & journalism.
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post Jan 11 2009, 01:25 PM

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I beg your pardon, how am i provoking the fanboy war?

-2 gaming site, so you only pick the one that favors you? There are tons more out there - eurogamer, gamestrailer, your favourite VGA awards, 1up, x-play etc. I don't know where you get the idea it's a bad year for 360. That's still not fanboyism?
-I know fighting fanboys will keep the spirit up & high, but who is bashing MGS4 here apart from techno?

Threatening you? Sorry, I am merely pointing out your flaws of argument. If you disagree, you can always rebuked with facts or opinion but not misleading opinion as fact. How I am threatening you?

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ending a sentence with a question mark is a not a question but a statement...

I supposed so? It's often use in an informal conversation. I have yet to master english language, sorry tongue.gif

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post Jan 11 2009, 01:55 PM

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This will help you refresh your memory
If you still couldn't figure out why you are giving ppl an impression your a fanboy in disguise, give me a holler.


I hate to list this out because it makes me look really stupid as if I need this to justify my investment in 360 doh.gif
VGA? Gears of War 2 won 2 awards...& left 4 dead for pc/360. Where your statistic come from?
x-play - Fable 2 GOTY?
Eurogamers - I will let you check out the top 50 yourself. Ask again if you insist that I list everything out for you.
edit : I googled, here's the whole list for your viewing pleasure.

Really, just check all the game sites yourself. Visit gamerankings if you really like for the average rating....You could even list out all the 360 exclusive above the rating of 8 as base since all of these matter so much to you.

So, where do you get your whacky idea of 2008 360 exclusive = bad year & majority awards = ps3? I really don't see it, because to me it's pretty even!



Edited 2 : er...you are quoting my whole post, so basically my whole post is a threat? Sound the alarm!!!!!!

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post Jan 11 2009, 02:29 PM

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I only do the moderating when I am free, at that point of time...That thread is meaningless and just spamming all the way, what do u want to rebuke after your last post @ Dec 24 2008, 10:36 PM Tell me because I see nothing, you are free to do it now if you believe it's unfair to you. Don't you think I am doing you a favour by shutting out the "xbots" chance of countering you? laugh.gif
I am not even gona point out the irony of your fanboy post in that thread which contradict your points here. However, do tell if you think I am just making things up.



QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 02:13 PM)
i would not change something i never stated jz because u ask me to...
u are a mod, u can check my edit histroy...
did i said bad year or did i said not really a good year...
and all of this is about exclusives on the 360...
again i never bash any 360 games as being bad/ worthless/ terrible etc...
using ur list, u can see that its nt really a good year for the 360 when they were sweeping awards with GeoW back in 2007...
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The edit was refering to your new edited post as I was typing & previewing.
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ps v2: i never said it....


@bolded part.
It can only be better competition either from the same or different platform, but I still don't get your "majority of awards go to ps3" "2008 bad year for 360 exclusive"? If you wana bring the fanboy war to next level, look closely at all the media awards. There are actually more awards for 360 games...but multi-platform games are the one sweeping awards. I think your point of argument are backfiring on you.

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post Jan 11 2009, 03:20 PM

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"Bad year" or "not really a good year compare to ps3"...how much difference can it be with the whole context of your post when...the most obvious one:
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 24 2008, 07:09 PM)
gamespot is owned by cnet (which is under microsoft) and over the past years been very bias to the xbox (see their resistance 2 preview) and yet this year, ps3 titles been doing great...

1.Backfired.
2.Fanboyism traits - if the game site agree with you, it's neutral. If it doesn't, it's bias.

Along with other post of yours, this is why you have a suggestive title of fanboy in disguise. No offense. You really can't blame anyone with that kinda post of yours.

QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 02:47 PM)
as for the other thread, why i nvr chose to pursue it?
i'm nt that petty...
Actually, on that thread you are the one that keep pursuing while others have already stop replying or even care. I gave you a hint but it seems that my awesome manglish failed to send the message.


BTW, what makes you think "xbots" here must shoot you down in the xbox subforum laugh.gif You even openly challenge the Xbots by calling it - defend your own turf, yet nobody seems to take you seriously.
There might be lots of "rumours" about xbots bashing mgs4 or ps3 but i dare say most of it are imaginary. At least the one who are active on forum/xbl. Fanboy in a fight is the only way to keep their spirit burning. There are new & old trolls alike everywhere else, it's not a 360 exclusive laugh.gif As long as everyone keep things civil then...ok? It could be something as light as a football match discussion.

Sorry if I sound like a threat to you, but I am just a keyboard warrior and I have no intention of threatening anyone. biggrin.gif
As for others, you & I are only clowns to them. Carry on or you can contribute to this thread by answering the TS TS question.
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post Jan 11 2009, 10:10 PM

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WTH is that? Looks like Halo...

QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 11 2009, 03:40 PM)
-SPIN- SPIN - SPIN-

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lol I am not gona continue this because it's getting ridiculous but if you really want me to keep pointing out what went wrong with your post above, give a shout out as I am gona have my lunch & do some of my stuff first.

 

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